towkayneo
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KKH also gives proluton jabs (provided you experienced spotting) and yes, THH does endo scratch too
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KKH also gives proluton jabs (provided you experienced spotting) and yes, THH does endo scratch too
Hi dear all brave sisters,
I've finally been blessed by the good Lord with a BFP, and although it's something that I am not openly sharing yet (due to the fact that I'm being cautiously optimistic), I would like to share with all the brave gals who are trying so that they can have hope and continue to be brave...
My first fresh ivf was not successful (yielded a chemical pregnancy) and I was pretty devastated as my stats then were quite good (good quality embroys) and I was in pretty good shape (no OHSS)
My FET following that came as a BFN even though I was doing accupunture and undergoing Tcm...
As I was planning to go for the next fresh cycle in 3-4months times, I decided to buck up by changing some of my lifestyle habits. I switched to eating organic food whenever I could, I went to the gym or went for long walks more often, I took loads of supplements so that I would produce better quality eggs (royal jelly, fish oil, blackmores conceive well gold supplements, Coq10, folic acid)
3 months later just before I was cycling for my second fresh, I went to see Dr THH for the endoscratch procedure. I also went to see Dr CT Yeong (tow yung clinic) to have a session of intralipids.
I had also discussed with Dr tan to transfer blastocysts as these would have a higher chance of implantation.
During my ER, I suffered from mild OHSS and was worried that I would not be able to do the ET that same cycle, but my blood test cleared me for ET. I was quite bloated but thankfully it went down just in time for my D5 blastie transfer. Also thankfully, my blasties made it to grade A and B and Dr tan implanted 2 of them. I watched lots of Russell Peters before and after the ET as there is some evidence that laughing after the procedure helps with implantation! lol...
After my ET, I immediately went to see Dr Yeong for another session of intralipids. Dr Yeong also gave me proluton injections (for additional womb support) and prescribed me with baby asprin which is supposed to aid implantation by reducing any inflammation that may occur in the womb.
Following that for the next week or so, I tried my best to eat a fertility diet (read up on the avocado diet) which includes chickpeas, salmon and cod fish, one avocado a day, kidney beans, spinach etc
I was feeling great until my 5th day post transfer,when I started to feel very bloated.
At that point in time, I did not realise it was late onset of OHSS and I thought it was my crinone gel causing it. I tried to tolerate it but after the 6th day of being severely bloated, I couldn't take it anymore and suspected severe OHSS.
I was admitted into hospital and Dr Tan scheduled me to do a paracentesis. I had like 3-4litres of fluid which had accumulated in my abdominal cavities and I was feeling absolutely terrible, I looked 6 months pregnant!!! i was unable to eat, sleep, sit or walk
Although the paracentesis was painful, it was worth the pain as the relief thereafter was so welcomed by my poor tummy.
The silver lining was that blood tests have confirmed my BFP and Dr tan was telling me that late onset of OHSS is usually due to pregnancy. although I have been suffering much the past week, I would go through all of it again just for the BFP. I only thing I would do differently is to seek help earlier to manage the OHSS, no point being a hero as your body will not thank u for it.
The level of care at KKH has been great so far and i'm looking forward to being discharged soon so I can recuperate at home and be ready for the next stage of the pregnancy.
Sorry for the long post but I thought it would be nice to share this since this is a lonely journey and there are not many gals u can talk to for support and encouragement.
Jia you everyone!!! baby dust to everyone!
Thank you so much for taking time to pen your encouragement for us all and sharing your story..congrats and all the best to u..hope everything smooth smooth!
After my acupuncture session after during lunchtime I buried myself in work the rest of the day...managed not to think abt this.
am surprised and Glad to see all these encouraging stories when I just came back to this pg now. It's really a much needed boost on this road..and only we will understand each other truly. The rest will never know. So thanks again! Will fight on this cycle..gg for 1st scan this fri.
Oh yes, thanks for these pointers too!
I'm on acupuncture now and stopped the tcm powder cos alrdy on stims.
Did take uniquinol, prenatal vitamins and ate healthily as much as possible the last 3 mths before this cycle. Did hysteroscopy to remove polyps last mth and also smoothen the surface for implantation. Hope it works this time!
hajar
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Think Nuh does this intralipid treatment.And so is overseas.Only kkh dun.Or mayb other hospital dun as well...Hw u know u have this nk cells tingy.Thru blood test? I tink i might have that as twice i failed fresh cycle.No implantation hapen.Or mayb lining issues due to asherman syndrome as wat i always tink.Endo scratch does not work for me but work for some.But hey i have yet to knw my main issues.nk cells vs asherman syndrome =thin lining.so many issues to tackle..And clock is ticking. Patience is all we need...
Ttcjourney1982
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The only way to confirm that you have elevated NK cells is to do an expensive blood test and I think that's only available in the US. However, given that intralipids is not a very expensive procedure, I decided to do it anyway to give myself added peace of mind. My main focus this time was to do everything within my ability to get a BFP so I didn't hesitate to do it.
As for thin lining, I was also having this issue previously so I drank red bean soup and red date tea every alternate day and I think it helped. My last ultrasound scan (3 days before my ER) showed my lining to be 10.9mm
humbaobao
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Sad... just got told by kkh I can't start my FET cos of their dec blackout period. My menses came 2 dates "late".
When is the blackout? I haf not done my et
Dreamscometrue
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Govt Hospitals don't do intralipd
HavingHope
Active Member
Blackout date from 28 Nov to 18 Dec. Then from 7 Jan to 20 Jan if I remembered correctly.
Humbaobao, if u already started scans and just waiting for ET, you shouldn't be affected by this blackout date. All the best this cycle!
Hi hi,
If i want to see dr CT Yeong for intrallipids or proluton jab post ET, isit call to make appt first? Will he charge for first consultation if I never visited before and how much isit roughly for the first consultation? Thanks!
celeste144
Member
Hihi thanks for your info. v useful.
I am doing endo scratch next week w Prof before I start on Nor E the following week. I will ask him abt the intralipids and prolution injections.
Ya how much is 1st consultation w Dr Yeong? Don't know if I should try these additional help this cycle or c if endo scratch will help this cycle first.
celeste144
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Hihi thanks for your info. v useful.
I am doing endo scratch next week w Prof before I start on Nor E the following week. I will ask him abt the intralipids and prolution injections.
Ya how much is 1st consultation w Dr Yeong? Don't know if I should try these additional help this cycle or c if endo scratch will help this cycle first.
Ttcjourney1982
Member
Yes, you will need to see Dr Yeong for a consultation first. He charges $100 for first time consulation and subsequent visits for intralipids, he will not charge for consulation, only for the intralipids sessions. He's also very nice and reassuring and if I'm not wrong, he was Dr THH's mentor when he used to be at KKH. In fact, if you asked Dr tan about where to go for intralipids, he will recommend Dr yeong to you.
Ttcjourney1982
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Dr Yeong charged me $100 for first time consulation and subsequent visits for intralipids, he did not charge me for consultation. If you don't mind spending the additional money for a peace of mind, I think no harm going to see him.
hajar
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Winniewiniepooh
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Hi sister, do we just call for require intralipids injection ? When is the right time for injection. I am going to ET next Mon, can still catch up this injection?
Ttcjourney1982
Member
Hello gal,
Intralipids is actually an intravenous infusion, rather than an injection.
If your embryo transfer is on Monday, then the doctor will most likely schedule the intralipids tomorrow. Perhaps you want to call the clinic asap to arrange for one if you want to do intralipids tomorrow.
All the best!
Winniewiniepooh
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May I know the contact no ?
Winniewiniepooh
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May I know the clinic no?
Winniewiniepooh
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Hi sister,
Is this DR Yeong from virtus? The clinic is close at this time .
hajar
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Ya me too..So should intralipids before Et?
Winniewiniepooh
Active Member
I also have no idea. I only heard about imtralipids today.
Ttcjourney1982
Member
Yes, Dr CT Yeong from Virtus (or tow yung clinic, they are affiliated)
The number is 6737 4433
You will definitely need to do it at least one day before ET and since the clinic is not opened on Sunday, your only window will be saturday.
Winniewiniepooh
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Hi sister , is this intralipid suitable for everyone ? No need to consult doctor before hand? No side effect ?
Winniewiniepooh
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Thank you for your reply sister. Will try to call this clinic , not sure if they call arrange for it . If not have to call SF clinic to ask for it .
hajar
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Does one time session before Et sufficient to aid implantation?
Ttcjourney1982
Member
Ideally, Dr yeong would prefer to give one session around 7-10 days before ER and then another session 1-2 days before ET.
Thereafter, once BFP, he will recommend one session every fortnight until the fetal heartbeat can be seen, and then once a month until your 12th week
Intralipids does not guarantee BFP but there are many stories of how some women finally BFP after undergoing intralipids so I think no harm doing it since it doesn't hurt your chances (only your wallet!!)
Ttcjourney1982
Member
Just to add, there are no side effects but the first few minutes of the IV drip will feel abit tingly and painful but after that, it's ok. if u ask me, I think endoscratch was more painful!
Winniewiniepooh
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Thank you for your info sister. Waiting to see DR yeong now , lucky I saw sisters' post yesterday , this is very helpful info for me .
Winniewiniepooh
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Ya I understand there is no 100% guarantee , just try whatever I can do to increase the chance . Thank you for your reply sister
Winniewiniepooh
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One more question , after intralipid injection , can go for acupuncture after that ? As I have acupuncture appointment this afternoon .
Ttcjourney1982
Member
I think it should be fine to go for accupunture after your intralipids, as there is no conflict between the 2.
But you might want to double check with Dr yeong just to be safe...
Good luck and all the best!!
Winniewiniepooh
Active Member
Thank you sister. DR yeong said it is ok to go for acupuncture after that.
Winniewiniepooh
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Just finish the intralipid infusion, thank for your info.
moomoowong
New Member
hi all,
i'm new here! been actively trying for 1 year now. had ovarian cyst and removed it in June. i am thinking of starting ivf however i can't really decide if i should go to kkh or sgh, does anyone have recommendation? i prefer female dr
thank you!
i'm new here! been actively trying for 1 year now. had ovarian cyst and removed it in June. i am thinking of starting ivf however i can't really decide if i should go to kkh or sgh, does anyone have recommendation? i prefer female dr
thank you!
hi all,
i'm new here! been actively trying for 1 year now. had ovarian cyst and removed it in June. i am thinking of starting ivf however i can't really decide if i should go to kkh or sgh, does anyone have recommendation? i prefer female dr
thank you!
Nuh Dr Anupriya.
Hi Daylesford
hi Daylesford & MsPopee
I'm currently in a similar situation. Am in week 8. Just had a scan, told that baby size & heart beat are ok, but there is a blood clot near the sac. No spotting. Doc recommended bed rest till the end of 1st trimester, so as to prevent baby from dislodging. But I'm also worried about the other side effects of bed rest n even how to get so many days of leave/mc/hl.
Can share how was the experience so far for you? Did the hospital give hospitalization leave for those bed rest days. If the bed rest was useful at all? N to even get through the day on bed rest?
During the scan, also found out that I lost one of the twins, so all hopes on this remaining twin now.. Thanks so much, ladies!
daylesford
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Weovv,
Sorry to hear the lost of one of your twins but this is pretty common in multiple ivf pregnancies and only the strongest baby/babies will survive.
On your blood clots, the best antidote is none other than complete bed-resting. You will need lessen any pelvic/gravitational forces. I did not have any side effects apart from having back aches due to prolong laying on the bed and i was also constantly worrying if my baby was doing well.. I had excellent family support during my bed resting days and that helped loads as i was literally home 99% of my pregnancy.
Initially i was emotionally so miserable on the thought of bed resting for so long but i survived that ordeal. Ipad and books were my greatest companions during my bed resting periods. Everything is all well worth once you carry your little bundle of joy in your arms.
For my case, my dr had ordered bed rest even throughout my pregnancy as my bleeding episode occurred towards the end of my trimester 1.
He covered me with sick/hospitalization leaves throughout my pregnancy and i was off work till the end of my maternity leave.
Meanwhile dont worry and have positive vibes. bed rest from now on and keep talking to your little fighter.
Sorry to hear the lost of one of your twins but this is pretty common in multiple ivf pregnancies and only the strongest baby/babies will survive.
On your blood clots, the best antidote is none other than complete bed-resting. You will need lessen any pelvic/gravitational forces. I did not have any side effects apart from having back aches due to prolong laying on the bed and i was also constantly worrying if my baby was doing well.
. I had excellent family support during my bed resting days and that helped loads as i was literally home 99% of my pregnancy. Initially i was emotionally so miserable on the thought of bed resting for so long but i survived that ordeal. Ipad and books were my greatest companions during my bed resting periods. Everything is all well worth once you carry your little bundle of joy in your arms.
For my case, my dr had ordered bed rest even throughout my pregnancy as my bleeding episode occurred towards the end of my trimester 1.
He covered me with sick/hospitalization leaves throughout my pregnancy and i was off work till the end of my maternity leave.
Meanwhile dont worry and have positive vibes. bed rest from now on and keep talking to your little fighter.
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hajar
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Endo scratch was painful for me too.Almost blankout after scratch.Gosh!
hajar
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Call to book for the session is it...
hajar
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How u book? Just call up? And hw u knw u need it...Just go ahead is it to increase implantation chances...
Day 15 hcg 224 consider good so don't worry. Most hospital passing mark at day 19 is 200. My hcg was 100 Plus on day 15 n preg with twins.
Hi Daylesford,Weovv,
Sorry to hear the lost of one of your twins but this is pretty common in multiple ivf pregnancies and only the strongest baby/babies will survive.
On your blood clots, the best antidote is none other than complete bed-resting. You will need lessen any pelvic/gravitational forces. I did not have any side effects apart from having back aches due to prolong laying on the bed and i was also constantly worrying if my baby was doing well.
Initially i was emotionally so miserable on the thought of bed resting for so long but i survived that ordeal. Ipad and books were my greatest companions during my bed resting periods. Everything is all well worth once you carry your little bundle of joy in your arms.
For my case, my dr had ordered bed rest even throughout my pregnancy as my bleeding episode occurred towards the end of my trimester 1.
He covered me with sick/hospitalization leaves throughout my pregnancy and i was off work till the end of my maternity leave.
Meanwhile dont worry and have positive vibes. bed rest from now on and keep talking to your little fighter.
Thanks so much for your reply and encouraging words. Really appreciate you sharing your experience
All the best Winnie for ur ET tmr! I'm going for ER tmr and Still considering if shld do it for this cycle since I alrdy missed the session before ER.
Btw ttc1982, this virtus clinic looks gd after looking at its success rates and watching their video online. Thanks for the recommendation
Winniewiniepooh
Active Member
Ya just call and talk to the nurse first before you going down , they will arrange for you .
Winniewiniepooh
Active Member
Hi hajar, I just call and tell them what I want , they will arrange to consult doctor first . I have check with doctor , he only said will increase the chance for implantation, but no 100% guaranteed can pregnant , this is no side effect , I just try whatever I can do to increase the chance , i didn't think too much . But to be honest, after the infusion , I went to acupuncture , the Chinese doctor said that my pulse is fast and 浮， pulse seems no so good , I am not sure if this related to the infusion or related to the med injection on ER day which Ian on Fri. Anyway, no try no gain. Any sister experience this ? How many sister successes after going for intralipid sessions.
Winniewiniepooh
Active Member
Hi sister , dun give up, I only start my first session 1 day after ER as I only notice got such thing after ER when I read this forum. For my case, injection 2 days before ET , next session will be 7 days after ET, will see how it goes first .All the best Winnie for ur ET tmr! I'm going for ER tmr and Still considering if shld do it for this cycle since I alrdy missed the session before ER.
Btw ttc1982, this virtus clinic looks gd after looking at its success rates and watching their video online. Thanks for the recommendation
catinthesky
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Hi all.. started my first day of Stims today. Starting with 3 injections already Went quite well as hubby was around to jab for me. I can't bring myself to poke so have to depend on him for now.
How are my cycle buddies doing?
Went quite well as hubby was around to jab for me. I can't bring myself to poke so have to depend on him for now.How are my cycle buddies doing?