IVF/ICSI Support Group

@bliswifu Thanks!
@pumpkin_pie My BT is on 20th, this coming Monday. Trying my best to be positive in order to get a positive result. Then can pass baby dusts to you all ;).
@mesara did you go to kkh for second opinion? Stay strong ok..we are all praying for your well-being..
 


All the best to your ET!!
I am also surprised that they dont give HL for 2WW!!! All the while i thought they give HL and I even pre-alert my boss that i will be away for 2 weeks for my coming FET.. oppss


i think bed rest after iui/ivf is not really a need for the western doctors. fresh cycle is given 2wks HL due to the high dosage of stimulation drugs/injections which may cause uncomfortably feelings / bloatedness / pain in the ovary and if suffer ohss needs rest too. probably that explains why during fet only 3days HL given. probably this is cater to those doing medicated as still injections are involved.
 
Iwantahealthybaby, thanks for your reply. You are always so positive and it helps to hear your assurance. Is it daily jabs/inserts again for the progesterone post ET?

Btw I also didn't get 2 weeks HL for fresh cycle. I was told 1 week is max.
 
The waiting time at kkh is horrible. It is 1 hour past my appt time and there are 4 more patients before me. At nuh I waited at most half an hour...:mad:
 
Bb blues did u have severe pain during af tat was caused by endo?? Dr tan wants to inject lucrin tomorrow n do ivf 10 weeks later. This means no cycle for 3 months so shud be pain free hopefully. Never thought will Have to do ivf in kkh. Came for pain and landed in this situation. Maybe its all fated.
 
Hope2bb, don't worry too much.
The nurses will guide u along n You will do fine tmr. :)
I recall that I was v nervous when I did ER cos I didn't know what to expect.
Arrived at kkh ivf in the morning, asked to change into gown n wait.
Felt v cold n uncertain.
Saw other ladies at the waiting area n the chats w them helped
I only felt some pain when the nurse inserted the needle into my vein on the hand.
After that was waiting for my turn to be wheeled into OT.
Saw my dr in OT, he asked for my name, I replied. The nx moment I opened my eyes, ER was over n I was wheeled out to rest in the recuperation area/beds. Given milo biscuits during the 2 hrs rest time n they deem me fit enuff to go home.

ET was much simpler. My hubby n I were brought to a room.
Did some verification. I changed into a gown/removed underwear n was seated in a dentist type of chair.
My dr came in after a while, inserted the embryos via the vagina using a Pap smear type of tool.
He showed me the TV screen shot of my embryo on a culture dish b4 n after the ET to confirm that both r inserted.
Then I changed n left. The embryologist spoke to us after that n gave us a document showing the number of eggs retrieved, no. fertilized and frozen. Verbally told us the grading of the embryos too.

The procedure at RH may be slightly different but hope my experience will give u a slight idea of what to expect :)
How many follicles did your last scan show? The size of follicles ok ?
 
Mesara, hugs! Hope the meds will reduce your pain.
I did lap b4 too and took a week plus to recover too.
The insides hurt aft lap so I had to move slowly in the initial few days.
 
Little things, for yr FET, what time did u have to report at KKH on ET day?
So just sit there to wait till embryologist update on thaw status?

I think after thaw, D2 embryo still can be cultured to D5.
But my Tcm dr told me not to culture further.
Mumbled something abt some drs like to use our embryos to do experiment.
I guess many embryos don't make it to D5. So she advise against it.
Dr Loh also feel that survival rates of embryos inside our womb is much higher than in a lab environment.
 
Sukif, tks! I'll update on the # of HL given after my ET on fri.

Peanut, less than 1 week till your BT. Jia you!!

Babygrin, how's your session with dr tanhh?
Yes, gotta wait long long if we book appt with popular drs. :(
 
Hi ladies,

Im not new to this forum as i was in this forum some times ago but i failed my ivf and stop everything for a year and now im back!!

Now having a good rest is back to this tedious horrible but hopefully a fruitful journey..
Im now comtemplating to go back to my ex-TCM (dr Zou) or Dr Tan buoy Siew...

To pumpkin-pie, i saw you posting that your first round was with her and successful.. can you brief more on her procedures, charges and waiting time?
 
Mesara, I do not have severe af pain hence was very surprised that Dr found severe endo. I went to do lap to find if there is any endo and same time to clean the womb as I failed several ivf without any implantation at all. Good that I went for the lap as polyps was found too.
 
Hi wondersss, welcome back after a good rest.
I went to dr tan sb after I was pregnant. Went to get an tai medicine for my 9+ mth pregnancy.
So she didn't help me with the conception part.

For this FET, again I saw her on D10 after I started taking tablets for medicated FET.
She only gave me herbs to take the day after ET for 10 days.

Her charges are around $32+ for 1st time consultation and $26+ for subsequent charges.
Herbs cost varies. She said the post ET herbs are more expensive. $17/pack x 5 packs.
The an tai herbs she prescribe the last round were cheaper. I think it was $5-8 per pack and 4-5 packs every mth.

Hope other sisters who visit her can share more abt her procedures.
Seems like she checks on patients af cycle days, temp charting, lining thickness, and prescribes herbs.
I don't think she does accupunture but I may be wrong.
Dr Loh recommends her though. Not sure if he recommends dr zou too.
 
Oh missed out this pt about waiting time.
She spends around 20-30 mins w each lady/couple.
For my last visit, there was only 3 couples b4 me.
I arrived 4.20pm, only got to see her at 5.50pm.
Think it's a longer wait for the evening slots.
 
Mesara, I do not have severe af pain hence was very surprised that Dr found severe endo. I went to do lap to find if there is any endo and same time to clean the womb as I failed several ivf without any implantation at all. Good that I went for the lap as polyps was found too.

hi bb_blues, so sad about it....which Dr were you with for Lap ? any reason for failure b/f implantation ?
 
Hi girls
Thanks bbblues am also super hyper happy to start again soon
Ladies this tcm at 32$ where is she located And does she speak english ? Gigi
 
@pumpkin pie you mean sf Loh recommended you tcm ? Are you on ivf with him ? She gives herbs but no acu ? I had no idea sf Loh beleived in herbs ?! When i mentionned acu he just burst out laughing
 
Hi pumpkim, thanks for all the information.. The prob is that i have a blocked tube and this tube is where the egg has been producing.. (ok.. my left ovary is a lazy bum.. not able to produce any eggs most of the times) and irregular menses.

After the last ivf, my af went haywired till come only once every 2-3 months.. i went to a TCM sinseh which my MIL (mother-in-law) highly recommend him bcos he can cure all sort of diseases. In the end now my menses indeed come but can bleeding almost 2-3 weeks rest 1 week and bleed again.. :confused:
I have stopped taking his medicine after my MIL called him once and report the issue to him.. His first reaction was ask me to stop the medicine and hung up on her... :eek::eek:

Any ladies here have same issues like me??? :oops:
 
Hi ladies I went to dr tan siew buoy too and she doesnt do any acunpuncture, she give me a herb to boil once in two and three days. Each package can last for 2 day ( 2 times drinking), not to be drink during af report. Think everytime I see her, she will give me like 1 months consumption and it costcme ard 90 bucks including consultation. Last time I saw her, she showed me a twin korean baby picture just beside the table and she told me the mother age 40+ drink her herb and conceive through ivf.

Gigi yes she speaks english very well. She is at chine town at 38 upper cross street. You will need to make appointment first and usualy take few weeks to secure appointment depending your timing preference.
 
Oh ya and the phone number is 65344131

Ladies what is the different between expanded blastocyst compare to just blastocyst?

Just did my transfer today and now still resting at the ward.

The embryologist said they still want to monitor my other embryo before freezing then, is that normal practise?
 
@pumpkin pie you mean sf Loh recommended you tcm ? Are you on ivf with him ? She gives herbs but no acu ? I had no idea sf Loh beleived in herbs ?! When i mentionned acu he just burst out laughing

Yes TSB only give herbs n no ACU. Her herbs is like take two days rest two days. However tcm need time to take effect so I am not sure u still want to try since cycling in jan. Loh trust TSB herbs.

If u interested in Acu, u can go to Thomson Chinese medical. They do Acu to prepare u for ivf. Also have fertility massage. They give diff rates for Tfc patient
 
Hope2bb, my inserts is everyday 3times and each time 2pills. All the way till bt. I didn take jab so don't know if it's daily. I think kkh practice give pills to inserts after et.

Straw1, expanding blast means it's ready to burst out of its "shell", once transfer into you it will almost hatch out soon and find a place to implant. Embryo to blastocyst to expanding blast. You did a d5 transfer? ProbAbly your embryo is growing abit slow so they want to monitor before they freeze the better ones. By d6 all embryos/blasts must be transfer or frozen .
 
Hi sisters! A little intro abt me. I failed my first fresh with prof Wong last sept and gg to start my 2nd fresh with dr sadhana in feb. Any cycle buddies? I'll be taking saizen for the new cycle. Jus wan to find out if any sisters have more quality embryos after taking saizen?? How many types of support does KKH provode after ER?
 
Gigi, straw n jumbo girl hv provided v detailed info on dr tsb.
Tsb also say she help lee guo Huang's wife to conceive.
My fresh ivf in 2011 was with dr Loh.
He didn't recommend me to TSB but I read in this forum that he recommends couples who hv failed ivf to her.
So I went to her for an tai medicine. Dr zou's Plc was too far for me.

Straw, your ET's done! Yeah. 2WW start Liao..

Wonderss, tks for sharing.
Hope western or another Tcm dr can help resolve your af issue
 
Pumpkin_pie, mine was at mount E. Went at 1215; changed and got to OT at 1245. Procedure started 1310 and over in under 5min.

By the way my embryo was thawed in morning of ET and it naturally continued multiplying. Which is supposedly a good sign.
 
Hi wondersss! Rem talking to u last yr :) I started seeing tsb after failed fresh last yr. Heard she's against accupuncture, so nv ask her about it. I was seeing dr zou n another doc b4 her. Not sure who is better but I guess convenience is most impt. Din go back to dr zou cos of waiting time and distance. :)
 
Iwantahealthy baby yeah I did 5 day transfer, one is expanded blastocyst and another one ib expanding blastocysts, but the most inportanycis they can be a healthy baby, hehe.
Yeah maybe they want to monitor before they decide to freeze them, not sure if they will freeze the satisfactory grade embryo.

I always thought the longer embryologist cultured the embryo, it will only going to degrade, but in fact it maybe upgrade. Yesterday they called me saying that I have 3 good grade and 5 satisfactory amd 2 with a lot of fragmentationbut today morning they called me amd they say they have 5 good grade and 4 satisfactory. So sisters? Dont worry about your embryo grade, coz I have been worrying that they cant survive when the hospital told me they want to do 5 day transfer for me.
 
So means you have a lot of eggs retrieved during er that's why your doc hope to have them cultivate to blastocyst. More eggs more chances to blastocyst stage. Which is good! Cause they already bypass the 1st few days of survival. Mine also frozen on d6 cause my blasts were growing abit slower so at d5 they can only choose the best 2 to transfer and wait for one more day to see how the rest doing.
 
Ooooh thanks jumbo girl pumpkin And straw ! Had never heard about this tsb !!
Il Will definitely call her
Ok straw i think early blast is day 5 no?!
 
Saw dr tan hh today and finally got my elixir! I know this dhea does not guarantee success, but I am super happy today! Can start preparing for the next cycle!
Any sisters on dhea can tell me how long did you consume it before starting the cycle? Dr tan said there is no test to show whether I am ready or not, just take 2 to 3 months and then decide when I would like to start.
 
Hi pumpkim, thanks for all the information.. The prob is that i have a blocked tube and this tube is where the egg has been producing.. (ok.. my left ovary is a lazy bum.. not able to produce any eggs most of the times) and irregular menses.

After the last ivf, my af went haywired till come only once every 2-3 months.. i went to a TCM sinseh which my MIL (mother-in-law) highly recommend him bcos he can cure all sort of diseases. In the end now my menses indeed come but can bleeding almost 2-3 weeks rest 1 week and bleed again.. :confused:
I have stopped taking his medicine after my MIL called him once and report the issue to him.. His first reaction was ask me to stop the medicine and hung up on her... :eek::eek:

Any ladies here have same issues like me??? :oops:
Hi wondersss, I had the same issue as you. My menses came only once in 3 mths but when I started to take a few supplements in Sept, my menses returned to a monthly cycle in Oct, Nov & Dec. Then Jan I started my ivf.

I believe the supplmts that helped me are primrose oil, royal jelly, bee propolis and chasteberry (Vitex). These are good for balancing hormones as well as improve egg quality. You can also try maca root, which is also one of the fertility superfood. However, some people may not be suitable to take royal jelly and bee propolis, e.g people with asthma. Also take note to stop taking primrose oil when you ovulate and consume flaxseed oil from ovulation to D1 of the next menses.
 
@Jumbo girl thanks for sharing info on acu - no i wont do acu again its too expensive And those ladies dont have good english so difficult to communicate for me plus last Time my acu doc forgot me for 45 mn !!! I had no Bell nothing lol a trauma i was saying help help !!! Nobody moved
Anyway babygrin am on dhea welcome ! How did you get yours? On internet or at the kk pharmacy ?'
Its been 3 months am taking i Will cycle end of the month sooo i dont Know yet
Tsf - welcome here ;) dont Know who is with sadhana And starting on feb here ?!? And who s taking saizen ? (Bbblues did last year )
 
Gigi, I got mine at the kk pharmacy. I read your previous posts regarding the side effects... am really fearful :(
Dr Tan also said some ladies had to stop coz their side effects are quite severe. I am most worried about acne breakout...
 
Bbgrin how u find dr hh tan?? Me also first meeting today. Handsome like actor hor haha. I was quite in a daze when he intro himself as doctor. He kept repeating haha. I also prefer to ivf under prof in nuh but ni choice my pain brought me to kkh n I was thinking of lap with dr tan n instead he direct me to 2nd fresh in 10 weeks with lucrin. Hmmm this ivf journey nothing seems to be in my hands. But within this 10 weeks i really to tiao my body. My cold hand feet plus numbness issue must resolve with tcm help.
 
Bbgein where did u purchase vitex from? I heard its good for endo and want to try tat. How much is it n was it doc recommended?
 
Babygrin oh don't worry about my side effects I was not lucky that's all and at the end see I m fine - it just took me a lot of time to get used to it
Acne breakout is not a big deal at all - just use good make up (Lancôme for instance ) and nobody will notice

Mesara - I know .... You shift cause you think he s good looking !!!
 
Mesara, the problem with docs is they don't normally recommend specific supplements. So I did a lot of reading and decide on what best helps me.

Surprisingly when I went to one of the popular pharmacies, they don't know about vitex. Then I went to one GNC outlet and it was sold out. I went to another GNC outlet and they left with one bottle only. It is $32.95 for 100 capsules (500mg each). I read a lot about vitex and looks like it is a very good supplement. I take one in the morning and one in the evening before food.
 
Bbgrin how u find dr hh tan?? Me also first meeting today. Handsome like actor hor haha. I was quite in a daze when he intro himself as doctor. He kept repeating haha. I also prefer to ivf under prof in nuh but ni choice my pain brought me to kkh n I was thinking of lap with dr tan n instead he direct me to 2nd fresh in 10 weeks with lucrin. Hmmm this ivf journey nothing seems to be in my hands. But within this 10 weeks i really to tiao my body. My cold hand feet plus numbness issue must resolve with tcm help.
Mesara, I had lots of questions before meeting him but after meeting him, I forgot some of the questions that I want to ask.... Lol
I once said I want to go back to prof for the next cycle but now I may change my mind... hahahaha
 
Mesara, I have read old post that someone use this method as well. Suppress with lucrin for few mths to curb endo before start stim. She succeed wor.

Gigi, Thomson Acu dr Seah speak excellent English. She is from raffles girls school in spore. I can understand the trauma. Ha ha do only when u feel comfortable.

Babygrin, I do not have side effect taking dhea. Only noticed fringe slighlty oily.

Tsf, saizen I took before but don't find it useful. No harm trying. I read in western forum it helps in egg quality.
 
Haha so funny hir our experience.

Gigi I think fate brought me n bbgrin to handsome doctor haha. Still u knw hospital protocol wise nuh so much better. Prof is fatherly n v motivating. Waiting time short. Scan all by prof. Here heard factory line le. Haizzz. Wat to do. Wish tan was in nuh haha. But cant have cake n eat it man. So let me share n compare kkh n nuh experience. Hope wont be so bad.

Bbgrin thought vitex was liquid. U took pill version ar. Will virex clash with tcm herbs.
 
Gigi, Jumbo girl, I'm glad to hear that. I used to have quite bad acnes in my late 20s and took quite a while to heal. That's why I have a phobia for acne breakout.

Mesara, I totally agree with you. After the first visit to kkh today, I think the services at nuh are much better.
I didn't know there is liquid vitex. I took the capsule form. I will always leave 2 hours interval when taking supplements and tcm herbs. So far no problem.
 
Little things, tks!
So u went in 12+ after a call from embryologist at 9.30am.
It's different at KKH.
I'm to report at 8.30am.
Guess I'll wait there while they thaw.
If survive, then transfer immediately?
Can sisters who did medicated FET at KKH enlighten me?

Straw, your embryos are looking good!
Waiting to hear good news from u. When's yr BT?

Mesara, I feel the same abt dr tanhh.
saw him once when I was waiting for dr Loh.
He just walked past the waiting area n I was wondering who is this handsome man!
I saw the name of the room he walked into and realised he's dr tanhh. Lol
 
Hahaha u ladies seems to be smitten by dr tanhh. I have not seen him in person but I saw his photo in kkh. Indeed tall and handsome! Mesara maybe this is your fate to try ivf under the famous kkh doc. Many ladies want to be under him and got to wait for aptm. So consider yourself lucky this way, he may be your angel :)

I think feb cycle kkh will be quite pack. Actually I also wondering kkh frozen cycle transfer, cause I understand that they need to thaw on that day itself so do they Ask us to wait there while they thaw and see if they survive? I hope my frozen bb can survive the thaw and continue to grow to expanding blast!
 
Hi sisters! A little intro abt me. I failed my first fresh with prof Wong last sept and gg to start my 2nd fresh with dr sadhana in feb. Any cycle buddies? I'll be taking saizen for the new cycle. Jus wan to find out if any sisters have more quality embryos after taking saizen?? How many types of support does KKH provode after ER?
Hi tsf did doc tell you when to start taking saizen? During stim or before? I m also considering to use in my next cycle.
 
Sisters heres my update from kkh. My scan report showed one cyst above 3.5cm. That make dr tan decide I go for lap instead of lucrin. So the plan change yet again. Lap then lucrin then10 weeks later ivf. He is away last week of Jan so the first slot he has for me is 3 feb after cny. One thing abt him is he decides and I like tat. This journey is a roller coaster ride but hope we can see light at the end of tunnel.
 
Hi ladies I went to dr tan siew buoy too and she doesnt do any acunpuncture, she give me a herb to boil once in two and three days. Each package can last for 2 day ( 2 times drinking), not to be drink during af report. Think everytime I see her, she will give me like 1 months consumption and it costcme ard 90 bucks including consultation. Last time I saw her, she showed me a twin korean baby picture just beside the table and she told me the mother age 40+ drink her herb and conceive through ivf.

Gigi yes she speaks english very well. She is at chine town at 38 upper cross street. You will need to make appointment first and usualy take few weeks to secure appointment depending your timing preference.
Hi straw, just want to check if we have to see here every week??
Wonderss, tks for sharing.
Hope western or another Tcm dr can help resolve your af issue
Hi pumpkin, tks for sharing your experience with dr tsb as well.. hopefully we can succeed this time.
 


Wondress, no, not every week. She request us to come back just after the medicine finish. So if she give you 1 months medicine then only see her a month later, but you need to call asap if you want to make appointment, the slot is not easy and fast to get.
 

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