IVF/ICSI Support Group
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dreambear, my heart goes out to you.
Have a good break and take your time to ponder over what is your next course of action.
u r a strong lady, come back when u r ready and i m sure u will b stronger, fitter then but i probably no longer b here but will continue to cheer for you!
Have a good break and take your time to ponder over what is your next course of action.
u r a strong lady, come back when u r ready and i m sure u will b stronger, fitter then but i probably no longer b here but will continue to cheer for you!
lotsahugz
Member
i know no words can lessen the disappointment, but be comforted in that you are not alone dream bear! i am encouraged that you are still thinking of others in this time. *big hugz*
@prosepina: my 1st ivf was long protocol. this time round it is short protocol (i felt a bit rushed this time). i am special case, need full dose of Gonal-F cos of my history which i will share later in my reply to donkey ears
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Prof Wong gave me 450 Gonal-F every day for a week, then when i had to take the other shots (pergovaries & can't rem the other one), reduced Gonal F to 300 for the next week. so pocket burn big big hole again... sigh
but you r in fantastic hands prosepina. Prof Wong is really great. pple say he is very aloof but he is just super busy. he definitely knows his stuff. so dun worry! the nurses in CHR are also a great bunch
@donkey: thank God that u r fine now and can embark on the ivf journey!! Did u have to go thru chemo? me have low reserves because i had ovarian cancer 5 yrs ago and had surgery to remove a whole big portion of both ovaries. it is God's blessing that i can even try to conceive! so i am not complaining much. but due to my condition, i may not be able to do ivf as many times as i like. so this may be my final attempt if the drugs again cause me to have more cysts in the ovaries. so praying hard that this is it. but at the same time, still not that hopeful
or maybe i am just telling myself not to be too hopeful wahahahahaha.
@prosepina: my 1st ivf was long protocol. this time round it is short protocol (i felt a bit rushed this time). i am special case, need full dose of Gonal-F cos of my history which i will share later in my reply to donkey ears
Prof Wong gave me 450 Gonal-F every day for a week, then when i had to take the other shots (pergovaries & can't rem the other one), reduced Gonal F to 300 for the next week. so pocket burn big big hole again... sigh
but you r in fantastic hands prosepina. Prof Wong is really great. pple say he is very aloof but he is just super busy. he definitely knows his stuff. so dun worry! the nurses in CHR are also a great bunch
@donkey: thank God that u r fine now and can embark on the ivf journey!! Did u have to go thru chemo? me have low reserves because i had ovarian cancer 5 yrs ago and had surgery to remove a whole big portion of both ovaries. it is God's blessing that i can even try to conceive! so i am not complaining much. but due to my condition, i may not be able to do ivf as many times as i like. so this may be my final attempt if the drugs again cause me to have more cysts in the ovaries. so praying hard that this is it. but at the same time, still not that hopeful
Hello ladies!
What do you all think of the new rules raising 50 to 75 percent subsidies and extending it to frozen cycles? http://www.heybaby.sg/havingchildren/art.html
Anyone thinking of availing of these? is it quite a big help? Or do think this might just make public hospitals crowded? Should i go and make appointment?
What do you all think of the new rules raising 50 to 75 percent subsidies and extending it to frozen cycles? http://www.heybaby.sg/havingchildren/art.html
Anyone thinking of availing of these? is it quite a big help? Or do think this might just make public hospitals crowded? Should i go and make appointment?
verone_baby
Active Member
dreambear, hug hug! take care, we will definitely succeed next round..
debster, yeah i agree with you Prof Wong is good
jia you jia you!
Katniss, of course the grant helped a lot. Government want birth rate, we want baby, we have same mission.
debster, yeah i agree with you Prof Wong is good
Katniss, of course the grant helped a lot. Government want birth rate, we want baby, we have same mission.
pantieileen
Member
No I didn't do chemo coz the cells were discovered early but the ovarian cyst surgery screwed me up quite badly so my left ovary, the affected side didn't had much eggs. Was seeing Prof Yam under KKH Gynae cancer center. Being a young patient there is quite sad and he said I'd have no reproduction problems later in life...bullshit loh
When Dr Fong, recommended by Prof Wong open me up in July last year, he was quite horrified to see everything fused together. 2keyhole surgery become 4 holes. Prior to ivf, prof Wong say no need hope on the left ovary since it was so high up and first few days of scanning doesn't respond to hormones.
Previously, my contingency plan was adoption but now since I have 10 embryos and if I still fail to get pregnant might consider surrogacy if its legal here.
Another reason why I'm not hopeful, there's a curse rumored in my family that my generation will be the last so ya if preggers good, if no, I've tried my best.
I do try to eat less chicken these days, switching to pork beef fish. I think my fave chicken wings or drumstick play a part in the cysts
When Dr Fong, recommended by Prof Wong open me up in July last year, he was quite horrified to see everything fused together. 2keyhole surgery become 4 holes. Prior to ivf, prof Wong say no need hope on the left ovary since it was so high up and first few days of scanning doesn't respond to hormones.
Previously, my contingency plan was adoption but now since I have 10 embryos and if I still fail to get pregnant might consider surrogacy if its legal here.
Another reason why I'm not hopeful, there's a curse rumored in my family that my generation will be the last so ya if preggers good, if no, I've tried my best.
I do try to eat less chicken these days, switching to pork beef fish. I think my fave chicken wings or drumstick play a part in the cysts
lilcookiedough
Member
Hi Dreambear,
Big hugs. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger
Big hugs. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger
lilcookiedough
Member
Hi Peeps,
I just went for the follow up session @ KKH.
Will be starting the long protocol in May.
Anyone else starting their cycle during that period?
Thanks.
I just went for the follow up session @ KKH.
Will be starting the long protocol in May.
Anyone else starting their cycle during that period?
Thanks.
i1bb
Active Member
Hi dreambear, hugs. U will never fail if u never give up. Take a well deserved break n try again when u r ready ya.
Hi donkey ears n debster, u both r really fighters! Donkey ears, I oso removed some cancerous cervical cells many many years ago... I've just switched to nuh from kkh for my 3rd (last) IVF n hearing u gals singing praises of prof Wong, I am somewhat relieved that I made the decision to switch... Though I have not seen prof Wong in person yet but hearing from u gals really gave me reassurance. Anyway my first apt with dr Stephen chew already pleases me alot as the consultation with him was rather different from what I experienced at kkh... I'm glad I made the right decision...
Hi donkey ears n debster, u both r really fighters! Donkey ears, I oso removed some cancerous cervical cells many many years ago... I've just switched to nuh from kkh for my 3rd (last) IVF n hearing u gals singing praises of prof Wong, I am somewhat relieved that I made the decision to switch... Though I have not seen prof Wong in person yet but hearing from u gals really gave me reassurance. Anyway my first apt with dr Stephen chew already pleases me alot as the consultation with him was rather different from what I experienced at kkh... I'm glad I made the right decision...
Hi gal,
I'm with NUH Prof Wong,my ER should be on Thurs or Fri.For those with NUH, how many hours can i rest after ER in NUH? And what should i take care after ER? How to prepare myself for ET? How long should bed rest after ET? And what should i eat to increase the chance for the embroy to implant?
Thank you.
I'm with NUH Prof Wong,my ER should be on Thurs or Fri.For those with NUH, how many hours can i rest after ER in NUH? And what should i take care after ER? How to prepare myself for ET? How long should bed rest after ET? And what should i eat to increase the chance for the embroy to implant?
Thank you.
mothergoose
Member
dreambear, dun despair, you will succeed next time!
donkey ears> many years back, I ever heard got motherhood forum sistas also asking about surrogate mother in india, not sure if its legal, but i have watched a documentaries on indian surrogate mother before. India seems to be gaining international attention on such, but hav to b prepared for lots of legal paperwork and its costly.
donkey ears> many years back, I ever heard got motherhood forum sistas also asking about surrogate mother in india, not sure if its legal, but i have watched a documentaries on indian surrogate mother before. India seems to be gaining international attention on such, but hav to b prepared for lots of legal paperwork and its costly.
reddesk
Well-Known Member
Dreambear: Sorry to hear. Know its not easy but lets continue to JY!
Lavender: you can rest about 3-4hrs after ER, ET about 2hrs. U will start your support meds right after ET. There is no strict "rules" on bedrest and Prof do encourage walking but to your comfort. After putting in support meds, rest at least 30mins. It's said that selenium helps implantation and it can found in eating 2-3 Brazilian nuts daily. Its also believed that accup helps relax the womb and help implantation.
Lavender: you can rest about 3-4hrs after ER, ET about 2hrs. U will start your support meds right after ET. There is no strict "rules" on bedrest and Prof do encourage walking but to your comfort. After putting in support meds, rest at least 30mins. It's said that selenium helps implantation and it can found in eating 2-3 Brazilian nuts daily. Its also believed that accup helps relax the womb and help implantation.
lotsahugz
Member
donkeyears: woah! 10 ice babies! very very jealous! hahaha. sure no problem one! dun fret so much.
think happy baby thoughts!
Sara & cookie dough: welcome to the forum!
i1BB: hi hi dearie! thanks for the compliment though i dun feel like a fighter. more like a drifter. lol. at that time & even now what the docs say i just follow. heehee
Lavender: Chris is right but for me, i more kiasu so i confined myself to the bed for the first 2.5 days. why the 0.5? i aso dunno but thot it was good enough then. hahaha. will post a list that tells u the breakdown of what happens (hopefully) during our 2ww. hope that gives u a better picture
some successful ivf mummies have suggested getting tummy warmers and wearing socks to keep toesies warm. i'm doing the socks thing.
Sara & cookie dough: welcome to the forum!
i1BB: hi hi dearie! thanks for the compliment though i dun feel like a fighter. more like a drifter. lol. at that time & even now what the docs say i just follow. heehee
Lavender: Chris is right but for me, i more kiasu so i confined myself to the bed for the first 2.5 days. why the 0.5? i aso dunno but thot it was good enough then. hahaha. will post a list that tells u the breakdown of what happens (hopefully) during our 2ww. hope that gives u a better picture
some successful ivf mummies have suggested getting tummy warmers and wearing socks to keep toesies warm. i'm doing the socks thing.
lotsahugz
Member
After the Transfer Day
Day One
The embryo continues to grow and develop, turning from a 6-8 cell embryo into a morula
Two
The cells of the morula continue to divide, developing into a blastocyst
Three
The blastocyst begins to hatch out of its shell
Four
The blastocyst continues to hatch out of its shell and begins to attach itself to the uterus
Five
The blastocyst attaches deeper into the uterine lining, beginning implantation
Six
Implantation continues
Seven
Implantation is complete, cells that will eventually become the placenta and fetus have begun to develop
Eight
Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) starts to enter the blood stream
Nine
Fetal development continues and hCG continues to be secreted
Ten
Fetal development continues and hCG continues to be secreted
Eleven
Levels of hCG are now high enough to detect a pregnancy
sorry that this list is a bit long
Day One
The embryo continues to grow and develop, turning from a 6-8 cell embryo into a morula
Two
The cells of the morula continue to divide, developing into a blastocyst
Three
The blastocyst begins to hatch out of its shell
Four
The blastocyst continues to hatch out of its shell and begins to attach itself to the uterus
Five
The blastocyst attaches deeper into the uterine lining, beginning implantation
Six
Implantation continues
Seven
Implantation is complete, cells that will eventually become the placenta and fetus have begun to develop
Eight
Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) starts to enter the blood stream
Nine
Fetal development continues and hCG continues to be secreted
Ten
Fetal development continues and hCG continues to be secreted
Eleven
Levels of hCG are now high enough to detect a pregnancy
sorry that this list is a bit long
lotsahugz
Member
yo i1BB glad to know someone who understands me! lol
btw, u mentioned this 3rd ivf will be yr last. if u dun mind me asking, why is that so?
i wish i could just keep doing it again n again until i get my baby cos i read that some ladies actually go for 6 or 7 and more cycles before they were successful.
btw, u mentioned this 3rd ivf will be yr last. if u dun mind me asking, why is that so?
i wish i could just keep doing it again n again until i get my baby cos i read that some ladies actually go for 6 or 7 and more cycles before they were successful.
i1bb
Active Member
Yo debster, cos of finances lor... After 3rd fresh means no more govt grant wor. How to afford?! I also wish I can b like some ladies who can keep trying till they get their baby... Anyway I reckon life ain't solely abt having babies so I give myself a timeline to close the episode n move on lor... WTD...
nervous_babe
Member
Hi nuh sisters
Can I know the HL from nuh does it mentioned fertility treatment or anything like that? Does the letter states the reasons for the HL?
Can I know the HL from nuh does it mentioned fertility treatment or anything like that? Does the letter states the reasons for the HL?
Hi Ladies,
For those of you at KKIVF, do your doctors prescribe supplements for you or hubby?
I have begun to read up alot more on importance of supplements, such as DHEA, royal jelly, CoQ10, L Argine - either for me and my hubby. I just had a failed IVF (#1) and do not have any frozen embies. Out of 12 retrieved, only 8 matured for fertilisation, of which only 2 were usable. I chose to transfer 1, but the remaining didnt develop far enough to the freezing stage. I think my egg and his swimmers are just too weak, really devastating
I need to start a fresh cycle and thought of building ourselves up to improve our chances. Please so kindly share your regime, esp. those who have had successes! thank you so much in advance.
For those of you at KKIVF, do your doctors prescribe supplements for you or hubby?
I have begun to read up alot more on importance of supplements, such as DHEA, royal jelly, CoQ10, L Argine - either for me and my hubby. I just had a failed IVF (#1) and do not have any frozen embies. Out of 12 retrieved, only 8 matured for fertilisation, of which only 2 were usable. I chose to transfer 1, but the remaining didnt develop far enough to the freezing stage. I think my egg and his swimmers are just too weak, really devastating
I need to start a fresh cycle and thought of building ourselves up to improve our chances. Please so kindly share your regime, esp. those who have had successes! thank you so much in advance.
sunstillshines
Active Member
i1BB, I have the same thought as you. I have to face it if I really don't have a baby of my own. Life is not just about babies.. I have to close this chapter and move on if I failed the ivf again.
Me too, all the money gone to gynae's pockets and feeding supplements and tcm. Dh and I wouldnt have enough for more ivfs.
Me too, all the money gone to gynae's pockets and feeding supplements and tcm. Dh and I wouldnt have enough for more ivfs.
i1bb
Active Member
Yoyo sunarillshines!! **waving madly** how r u dear? I've not been v active in here for a period of time...Cos not really doing much...Haha.. I'm glad u know what I mean... It is like your nickname... Got babies no babies, sun still shines! Right?! We cnt go on forever trying... It's not that we wanna give up but sometimes things just ain't beyond our control... My money also all went to IVF, TCM, supplements... I even quit my job since 2011... Bo lwee to continue on le... It's all fated de... Que sera sera lor... Hehe
reddesk
Well-Known Member
Sara: I remember your question quite a few days but keep forget to reply. It's ok to take CoQ-10, it's antioxidant so will not cause cysts.
sunstillshines: when will u be doing your next cycle? Who are u with?
For those who have done scratching of lining, is it done before or after AF on the cycle before stimulation cycle? E.g if start jab in Jun and scratching is done in May.. So before or after May AF? Can someone who gone through this advise? Thanks.
sunstillshines: when will u be doing your next cycle? Who are u with?
For those who have done scratching of lining, is it done before or after AF on the cycle before stimulation cycle? E.g if start jab in Jun and scratching is done in May.. So before or after May AF? Can someone who gone through this advise? Thanks.
pantieileen
Member
@jelly : yup left ovary still got follicles just developing a lot slower than right. Rem during final days prior to OR, prof said no time to wait for left so mostly my eggs were from right. They were afraid I develop OHSS but so far so good, no side effects
asiafrighter
Member
Bubbub
May I ask u - did you takeTSB medicine during your stimulation stage?
May I ask u - did you takeTSB medicine during your stimulation stage?
Hi Dee-chia: has your doctor told you the reason behind the failed ivf attempt? there are many possible reasons. Like if ICSI was performed. Issue with implantation. Or embryo quality etc etc. I think most hubbies are given vitamins by doctors, i know some take CoQ10 for its antioxidant effect as well. You can ask your doctor for prescription. As for yourself, it really depends on what the problem is. I know many sisters see TCM for acupuncture or herbs, but also take supplements like conceive well gold, Coq10, red bean soup etc.
depressed_gal
Member
chris, my lining scratching was done after my af before my stimulation cycle. D scratching will b done around CD21-CD25, d nurse/doc will plan a day for u based on ur CD. In d example given, ur scratching will b done in may if ur jab start in jun. Bring along a sanitary pad w u coz u might experience heavy bleeding after d scratching but within a day, it will b gone. U might also feel a bit of pain but will oso b gone within a day.
babydusty
Active Member
I am starting my journey. But my mensus has yet to come. Soon i think. Here's my blog sharing my journey so far. =)
http://babydusty08.wordpress.com/
http://babydusty08.wordpress.com/
babydusty
Active Member
tsuki: at guardian or watson near the supplement section sure got sell coq10. i order it online at puritan.com coz its cheaper. But it takes about 4 weeks to deliver.
It believe to help improve egg quality and also so call immunization. But there is no scientific prove to it.
It believe to help improve egg quality and also so call immunization. But there is no scientific prove to it.
dolly_gal
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Hi dreambear,
I have been silent reader for the past 2-3 cycles. Dun give up. My personal experience i went thru 6 ivf attempts, 2frozen n 4 fresh cycles. In fact my current gynae is amazed that i can go thru so many attempts n continue to b persistent. My 1st to 4th cycle were under care, dosage n progrstrone pills increase n increase after every failed cycle, i was so stressed over it, even blue black on my tummy permanently after 4 jabs daily..it happened so fast that i din realised i went thru 4 cycles in less than a hear since i embarked on ivf, i even went tcm n accupuntcture. All the travelling n queuing were really mentally tired.
5th cycle was frozen where i trsf the 2 frozen embeddies from care to parkway east, was so sad when dr said it was barely surviving when they did fet.
Finally we did 6th attempt fresh cycle in march, this time me n my dh decided we forgo watever tcm or acunpuncture, everything as low profile as possible, with the most relaxed mind. Adter every scan n visit, instead of increasing my jab dosage, dr decrease my dosage twice, from 250 purgeon to 200.
15 folliciles retrieve, 11 matured, 9 fertilised. We did day 5 blastocycst trsf n left 2 frozen embeedies for storage. Et on 21 march, 1apr bt. Hcg 162.. First time hear my hcg more than 30, we were so happy n cant believe it.in fact dr said if i nvr get pregnant once during 5 attempts, chamces of striking this time is vy vy low, we were so dishearted n thats y this cycle we really din take it to heartt during 2ww.
Ytd did hcg bt again, it has gone up to 8k++, so glad its increasing that i now cfm i have a bb inside growing. Now counting down to next monday heartbeat u/s...
So wat i can conclude dun give up, must be persistent, god will answer our prayers..
I have been silent reader for the past 2-3 cycles. Dun give up. My personal experience i went thru 6 ivf attempts, 2frozen n 4 fresh cycles. In fact my current gynae is amazed that i can go thru so many attempts n continue to b persistent. My 1st to 4th cycle were under care, dosage n progrstrone pills increase n increase after every failed cycle, i was so stressed over it, even blue black on my tummy permanently after 4 jabs daily..it happened so fast that i din realised i went thru 4 cycles in less than a hear since i embarked on ivf, i even went tcm n accupuntcture. All the travelling n queuing were really mentally tired.
5th cycle was frozen where i trsf the 2 frozen embeddies from care to parkway east, was so sad when dr said it was barely surviving when they did fet.
Finally we did 6th attempt fresh cycle in march, this time me n my dh decided we forgo watever tcm or acunpuncture, everything as low profile as possible, with the most relaxed mind. Adter every scan n visit, instead of increasing my jab dosage, dr decrease my dosage twice, from 250 purgeon to 200.
15 folliciles retrieve, 11 matured, 9 fertilised. We did day 5 blastocycst trsf n left 2 frozen embeedies for storage. Et on 21 march, 1apr bt. Hcg 162.. First time hear my hcg more than 30, we were so happy n cant believe it.in fact dr said if i nvr get pregnant once during 5 attempts, chamces of striking this time is vy vy low, we were so dishearted n thats y this cycle we really din take it to heartt during 2ww.
Ytd did hcg bt again, it has gone up to 8k++, so glad its increasing that i now cfm i have a bb inside growing. Now counting down to next monday heartbeat u/s...
So wat i can conclude dun give up, must be persistent, god will answer our prayers..
dolly_gal
Well-Known Member
Hi donkeyears,
I aso felt vy warm on my last week of 2ww. Until my dh said i seems too abnormal to feel so warm.not much symptoms except after et, i feel cramps n backache first 4 days but it wasnt vy severe like some others mentioned sharp pains &etc. Towards the last 3 days of 2ww, no symptoms at all until i was quite worried. On the day of bt, my bff treated me to a sumptous lunch to make me forget my worries while waiting for clinic to call for results.
When she heard the results she was jumping n shouting till her dh came out of study room asking her wat happened. End up my best friends were all more excited than 2 of us.
So dun worry if there is no symptoms.
I aso felt vy warm on my last week of 2ww. Until my dh said i seems too abnormal to feel so warm.not much symptoms except after et, i feel cramps n backache first 4 days but it wasnt vy severe like some others mentioned sharp pains &etc. Towards the last 3 days of 2ww, no symptoms at all until i was quite worried. On the day of bt, my bff treated me to a sumptous lunch to make me forget my worries while waiting for clinic to call for results.
When she heard the results she was jumping n shouting till her dh came out of study room asking her wat happened. End up my best friends were all more excited than 2 of us.
So dun worry if there is no symptoms.
depressed_gal
Member
Ladies, can I check with you all whether will it overdose if we taking conceive well gold now with additional folic acid and coq10?
lilcookiedough
Member
Hi dollygal,
Thanks for sharing your IVF journey with us. I'm really so happy that your baby wish came true.
I'm so ready to go and buy Royal Jely, Brazil nuts and Coq10 etc but now i'm wondering if i should just forget all this i.e. go with the flow and take it easy.
Thanks for sharing your IVF journey with us. I'm really so happy that your baby wish came true.
I'm so ready to go and buy Royal Jely, Brazil nuts and Coq10 etc but now i'm wondering if i should just forget all this i.e. go with the flow and take it easy.
lilcookiedough
Member
Hi Dee Chia,
Sorry to hear that the 1st IVF didnt go well. Take care and don't give up ya.
I with Dr Sadhana @ KKH. Going for my 1st IVF in May. She didnt prescribe any supplements for myself and DH. I'm currently taking Conceive well and DH is taking daily multi-vits.
Who's your doc in KKH? Have the Doc done a review with you regarding the failed IVF?
Sorry to hear that the 1st IVF didnt go well. Take care and don't give up ya.
I with Dr Sadhana @ KKH. Going for my 1st IVF in May. She didnt prescribe any supplements for myself and DH. I'm currently taking Conceive well and DH is taking daily multi-vits.
Who's your doc in KKH? Have the Doc done a review with you regarding the failed IVF?
lilcookiedough
Member
Hi Debster,
Nice to "meet" u!
All the best in your BT next monday!!
Nice to "meet" u!
All the best in your BT next monday!!
dolly_gal
Well-Known Member
I did take coq10 150mg w 2 fishoil daily until last failed fet, i got lazy n stopped.
But i still take folic acid daily without fail.
I did went to tsb at chinatown to tiao my body for the past 6-8 mths. Only stopped in feb when we decide to start 6th attempt.
We decide to stop tcm was after dh sperms test result, it was only 4 million. Gynae got a shock n ask wat did he eat, he said stopped taking herbs n test again.
Somehow it became better n dh was asked to take tribestan twice daily n he did 3 times sperms storage before my ER..
But i still take folic acid daily without fail.
I did went to tsb at chinatown to tiao my body for the past 6-8 mths. Only stopped in feb when we decide to start 6th attempt.
We decide to stop tcm was after dh sperms test result, it was only 4 million. Gynae got a shock n ask wat did he eat, he said stopped taking herbs n test again.
Somehow it became better n dh was asked to take tribestan twice daily n he did 3 times sperms storage before my ER..
sunstillshines
Active Member
dollygal, it is encouraging to hear your experience.
Chris, I will be starting stim when my mense arrive end of this month. Now I am sick... I hope to get well asap as end of the month is coming soon!
i1BB, I have actually quit my job for 4 years already just to ttc... soon I am going to end this chapter... I hope this ivf will be a positive one.
Chris, I will be starting stim when my mense arrive end of this month. Now I am sick... I hope to get well asap as end of the month is coming soon!
i1BB, I have actually quit my job for 4 years already just to ttc... soon I am going to end this chapter... I hope this ivf will be a positive one.
sunstillshines
Active Member
dollygal, I hope you don't mind sharing. Did you see the same gynae for the last 6 ivf attempts? If no, how many gynae did you see and who is the last gynae you saw for the bfp?