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pink, no i m with kkivf due to govt grant. choose raffles as more convenient from my office. where r u with?

i find that gynae osso not able to explain the reason for my failed cycles...sigh....
 


pink i started accu immediately after my af cleared for my failed fresh cycle. Sorry to hear the news, do take care and dun give up.
 
gan: do u take any medicince fr tcm? i m thinking not to as i dun think i can swallow them. is accu sufficient?
 
tzac, I'm with NUH and there is govt grant too. Its far from my place too as I'm staying at Punggol.

I don't think they can explain the reason. So the coming cycle is your 3rd attempt?
 
I am having my BT on 19 July. Have been having anxiety and nightmare on it. I do not dare to have high hope on it as the % of success for IVF is not high. Just hope God can grant me a baby.

My colleagues only succeed at the 4th attempts. I met a lady at KK IVF and she told me that she was in her 40s and only managed to succeed at the 3rd attempt with a miscarriage at the 2nd attempt. And now her baby looks so adorable.

We must jia you :)
 
<font color="aa00aa">Ineedmiracle,
I tried the immunocal this mrng... i used 30ml of cold water, add the immunocal and shake... but still hv lumps and alot of foam.

As I was in a hurry to get to work, i just add some room temp water and milo, stir and drank it. The drink taste ok to me.
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Gan: Thanks. Ok, will call up Dr Zou. My AF came this morning when I was about to go for my BT. But it was light. Though I knew its gonna be failure, but I was still pinning hopes until I get the results.
 
<font color="aa00aa">pink F - sorry to hear about your results but glad to hear you are being proactive about your next steps.</font>
 
<font color="0077aa">pinkf
be strong and take care.
I think with help of tcm, they can help to tiao ur body faster and prepare it for the next cycle. Perhaps you can check with dr zou?
Jia you jia you.
Wow you stay punggol, still run till so far to nuh. I stay sengkang, and gg to kkh i find it far le. You take care.
I have a friend, after her failed ivf, she manage to conceive naturally in the following 1mth.
Anyway, jia you, and in 2mths time, mayb we can be cycle buddies. </font>
 
tzac i didn't really take the med from dr zou, only bot twice but i went regular accu, initially twice a week and when work caught up, i went once a week.

But my colleague who study tcm actually advise me to take both tcm and accu to have better effects. So u may want to consider.
 
dear ladies, did anyone of you went back to work in 2ww? My work is piling up. I am feeling ok, just nausea and tired. Hubby is againist me going back. Please advise, me getting stressed :)
 
Ladies, did you get to speak to PinkD? I wonder how is she now... hope did not give her too much pressure yesterday....

Miracle, how did you sent your msg in blue?
 
ineedmiracle, ya. Will check with Dr Zou. My SIL recommended Prof to me so I think its ok even the distance is further abit. Thanks, you take care too.
 
<font color="aa00aa">also wondering if anyone flew during 2WW. Just found out may need to be in HK for work then. Really BAD timing! Worse thing is the other guy who could have helped is away on another biz conference. ARGH!!!</font>
 
clercler, it's really ur comfort level if u wld feel stress whe back at work, tired, alot of walking etc. I went back to work on D10 of my FET as my rational was the embbie wld have implanted.
FOR my fresh i took HL to BT day
 
cler,

Does your job requires you to do alot of walking? Personally I feel it's ok to work during 2WW. It can take your mind off d 2WW. It will be good that you don't undergo too much stress, walking, carrying heavy things. Stress is not very good during 2WW.
 
<font color="aa00aa">gan, problem is even work from home is stressful!! hahahahahahaha

Can I call myself a workaholic?</font>
 
iloveshoes,
i dunno anybody who flew during 2ww but my dr told me abt one of her patients who's french and who flew for work the day after her ET.
She BFP and even during 1st tri she was flying all over the world for work.
 
clercler,
if yr job is not very physical i think it's ok to go back to work. sometimes it's better cos u dun sit at home everyday thinking of all the symptoms.
just dun stress yrself too much at work, must learn to let go lor....
 
Hopefullymum, I'm older than u. 31 this year. Emm...I dont even feel bloated. Worried that the follicles are not growing. Somemore my Gona-F dosage is already quite high @ 375iu already
 
<font color="aa00aa">pink-f: boss knows, but wondering what she will do since in this case really no one else can do the job and its for a competition!

grumpus: Wow, that french lady very hiong</font>
 
<font color="aa00aa">Ineedmiracle, not sure can drink at night. The instructions put drink on empty stomach so I drank in the morning. :p</font>
 
Pink, great that you are meeting up with Prof. It is good to have a follow up with him.
When i went mine last Thursday, he also cant explain why it failed. I dont blame him. He can help me in so much but if the end result is not what we want, what can we do right.
He commented that mine actually went well, no hiccups from suppression to stimulation. In fact no problem with ET and ER too. Even my lining to me was ideal during ET which was 11mm and i was happy coz i read in this forum it should be 8-12mm. He told me the only difference he will do if i were to take my next attempt is to change my gonalf dosage so that i will have more follicles.

I have not decided with my hubby what we want to do next. Frankly speaking, I was not really ready to go to work after the failure. Its the explaining part which i feel make it difficult. Though only 3 ppl know about it and i know they are not kaypo ppl i feel one day they definitely ask me. True enough they did which I did not mind as these are the ppl that helped me alot during my absence. Surprisingly, all of them encouraged me to give another try. Their words of encouragement did change part of my mind. And they were opened to adoption. They asked me why not consider that. I was so touched by their encouragement. They make my return to work so much easier
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As of now, I'm still clueless what's next for me and hubby
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<font color="0077aa">pink-f: hugz... sorry to hear your results. Take care... I also BFN last week and cried for half a day only coz my hubby encourages me to build up my health and try again... We will BFP+++ the next round.
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<font color="aa00aa">suyana, I think you should take time to grief and acknowledge your sadness. I read in another book that IVF failure can be liken to a child lost and we should take time to acknowledge those feelings...

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thanks for the advices!

yes, staying at home alone these days really cos my thots to run wild, making me very worried. my job is not physically draining but quite stressful. especially I have a few major projects once I go back. I will consider again.
 
<font color="aa00aa">maybe KK should also give extra 1-2 day HL for BFN to help people recover from the entire experience</font>
 
iloveshoes, yes agree with you.
This is my 2nd attempt, my first i got pregnant but miscarried at 7weeks.
I had this fear of history repeating itself during my 2ww.
 
nm - fine..
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when is your 6 weeks scan? i'm so excited for you!!

hoping -
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crossing fingers for you... wishing you all the best!!
 
iloveshoes-- yes, I agree. Leave should be given to take time to recover emotionally. Perhaps, if we ask, they may give us the HL?
 
Hi ladies,
I miscarried naturally...
I expected it cos the hcg blood test was not good...I have accepted it....
Anyone know how much FET cost?
 
Su, yes. I don't think the doctors will be able to know the reason especially when everything had went smoothly. This was what he said to me last week during the follow up that my process was quite smooth sailing too.

How many follicles did you had previously?

I am contemplating to do my next this year. But I'm not sure how I am going to tell my colleague where I'm going during the 2ww. And it makes myself always going on long leave which doesn't look very nice on me.

Su, I encourage u to try again but whether fresh or FET, you need to decide. Give urself sometime to settle down first. *hugs*
 
kitty chan,

i'm on 200 units of puregon. who's your doc? i'm under Dr Tan Heng Hao. Anyone under him? so far i only read of ladies under dr Loh. This Dr Tan looks very young.

pink-f; sorry to hear about your results. but dun worry, if we keep trying, there's still hope.
 
Strawberry, I tried to hold my tears too until I can't hold it anymore. Yes, I hope we all will BFP next round.

iloveshoes, I agree with u too. Its like losing a baby though they are not well formed yet.

hopefulmummy, thanks.
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Dear Pink-F: Pls do not fel sad for too long.
I understand the disappointment after failing 3IUIs...
But God will grant you your wish soon.
have a gd rest.
 
Hi Pink-F: Clinic HPT is BFP but im waiting for BT results... shd be available after 330pm...
I hope you dun dwell in it too long.
We will give you lotsa baby dust!!
 
Dear Su, pink, strawberry n ladies who BFN,

As mentioned by iloveshoes, having a BFN is a form of grief. According to psychology, there are 5 manin stages of grief-- denial (I am fine; this is not happening too me), anger (why this is happening to me), bargaining (I will do anything if...), depression (I am so sad.. what's the point), acceptance (it's ok; I am going to move on).

We may not go through all the stages but many will go through some of the stages.

We just need to be strong. It is ok to feel angry and sad for a while after the BFN but if these negative feelings prolong, you need to seek help.

Hope this information is useful :)
 

hi miracle and sun: im waiting for Hcg numbers.
But dun feel great...this morning I was giddy and bloated...now better but tired.
U gals jia you ok?
Many girls here understand the painful feeling of disappointment because some of us failed simpler procedures before BFP... but it will come...it def will!
 

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