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Rostrum, y u say u regretted not asking prof to do d3 freezing? U tranferred d5 previously? Actually wats the diff of d3 and d5 freezing? Sorie for my ignorant..
 
Hi Hope_for_bb,

I am going to Prof Wong because he did the IUI for me, so going to carry on. Don't know why, never thought of going KKH. Is it better?

But I like the CHR nurses. Prof is sometimes a bit too "efficient" for me, feel quite nervous about asking him stuff.
 
Lyn, I did d3 transfer. I did regret it as apparrently my embryo did not last till d5. I did get bfp but got misscarriage.

Ladies wondering if it is ok to take h1n1 jab before ivf? Any window period?
 
suyana, i was also thinking of taking h1n1 jab, emailed Dr Loh to ask him if any window period but he never reply. so I didn't go take.
Anyway for info, GP said if pregnant can only take the jab after 1st trimester
 
Su_yana,
If I were to embark on another cycle, dh dun agree to let me cont wif NUH anymore...
The main reason is bcos there is no frozen embbies and it is a risk for us...cos we still got 2 more chances to get govt grant...so will be more careful abt it...
Overall, I m still v satisfied wif NUH's service, the CHR nurse are v helpful and Prof also v straightforward...
 
Judebabe,
Thanks for the link....I hv read it before...If u hv many eggs, then u can culture them till D5, bt if there is not much eggs...the disadvantage is tt there will be no frozen embbies or even for ER.
And the best place for the eggs is the womb...
 
Lyn,
Mine is a D4 transfer cos my D3 happens to be a Sunday...
If u hv many eggs, then u can culture them till D5, bt if there is not much eggs...the disadvantage is tt there will be no frozen embbies or even for ER.
Only v tough and good eggs can survive till D5...
And the best place for the eggs is the womb...
 
Gan,
Spotting can go for acu bt not heavy flow...
And hor, after O, better dun acu...this is wat my ex TCM told me...and when I ask Dr Zou, she also agrees cos wat if we heng heng strike naturally?
 
Rostrum, did you ask Prof that will he do it if you request for D3 freezing?

So sad that you will not be with NUH. Anyway, do what is best for both of you. If he is not happy with NUH, go somewhere that will make you feel better and assured. So it will either be KK or SGH rite. Ask around and see which is the next best place for both of you.
Any idea, when u will go for the next cycle?
 
Su_yana,
Yes, I did ask and he say yes...bt my dh is saying in the 1st place he shd do it for us....now we hv to do everything over again...

I hv been avoiding to discuss wif dh on my next cycle...cos I duno when and dun wish to tink abt it now...hehe...
 
Su_yana,
Rmb all the things tt I ask u to ask Prof..I tink he is open to suggestions...jus tel him yr proposals and hope to hear good news from u soon...
 
The last time when I met him after my miscarriage and the follow up for D&C, he did ask me if we are interested to go for another cycle and we said yes. I asked if anything will be done differently and he said no as he felt that i did get pregnant.
Maybe this time round, i will propose for D3 freezing if possible. At least, i can keep for future use. Same like you i got no frozen embbies but on top of that only had 2 left and i think they are really bad quality as it stopped growing at d3.
 
Rostrum today shld be my D1 although not so heavy...hmm that would mean my FET is coming soon.
Actually kkivf is ok, just that the whole process you don't see your doc at all except for the first consultation, ER and ET. so some may not feel comfortable as all communication is through the nurses.
 
Su_yana,
Perhaps u can check wif him again....I m sure he did go thru the growth of the embroys wif u day by day...perhaps u can ask him where went wrong? How come eggs dun grow beyond D3? Wat cld be the reason?
 
Gan,
Good luck and BFP soon!!!
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Process is secondary, wat's impt is the result.
 
Rostrum thanks.
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Still need to have 1 more AF before i can start FET
Hopefully 2 of us strike naturally in Feb since it's the romantic month...kekekeke
 
Rostrum thanx for the input. Will ask him. But not too sure if will be seeing him as my April menses i will be due to take all my blood test again and then start my cycle.
 
Gan, a friend from CHina told me pregnant also better dun take H1N1 after 1st trimester. he said in HK & China, many pregnant ladies did the jabs & lost their bbs. So, there is actually no safe period for pregnant ladies.
 
rostrum, both of us are fine. but constipation is kicking in.. even when i drink lots of fluid also like this! haiz!
 
Hallo ladies,

Saw Dr SF Loh today. I used to have endo and did ops back in Sept 08 to remove it but Dr Loh said my endo is back again!!!! Why me again?? I broke down on hearing this....He suggest I remove it before proceeding with IVF, but I dun wnat to go thru the whole operation process again and asked to try for IVF fist and have been scheduled for Mar.

Any mummies who had endo previously but managed to conceive thru IVF?
 
hi ladies,
Went to see Dr Yu SL at SGH today.
Besides commenting that my retroverted uterus would cause difficulty in ER and ET (it did cos it was quite uncomfortable last time), she mentioned high chance of endo and suggested laparascopy. However, b4 going for a lap, she ordered CA-125 blood test in which a high figure MIGHT suggest endo and also another blood test to check on my ovarian reserve (can't rem the name). DH would need to take 2 other tests - DNA fragmentation and some 'sperm binding' test. Hopefully these tests would give us some idea of what to do for the next fresh cycle.

Ladies on HGH (growth hormones), may I know which is the type you are given? Care to share your opinion abt this option? thx
 
Hi kitty, i did hv endo before and got it remove through lap before going for the FET. Not sure if endo was the cause of the fresh cycle failure but i remember my gynae did commented tt usually if detect endo best to remove by lap before IVF. And also to do IVF within 6 mths window after lap as the chances to succeed is higher. I did the FET 3 months after lap and it was a success. Was also told that lap doesn't permanently remove endo and it might reoccur, thus another reason to do it w/i 6 mths window
 
Hi Muski,
Thanks for sharing infomation, I am surprised at the comprehensive test that SGH has to offer such as ovarian reserve check.. how do you find Dr Yu ? Are you comfortable with her..
I must say that most ladies here are with KKH or NUH.. and some with ptve hospital....
but if CARE can pinpoint the exact problem...then should stay with them.

What is high growth hormones ? Do you mean progesterone or puregon/ Gonal F

I am at my 2ww.. Of course i hope that i BFP ..but i have more or less decided that i am done with KK and will move to NUH..if i dun succeed

Rostrum,
I understand what you mean.. govt grant only 3 times must fully utlised it.. come to KK and try out dr loh lucky hands lah...but in kk really is nurse do the scanning and the waiting time is long !!!

msmummy,

yup i did accupt with dr zou..but i tnk accup can do anywhere.... Clementi dr Tan seems popular too..

i can't wait for implantation bleeding cos that is an indication that i strike liao...
 
Muski,
I am currently on HGH, Saizen. Just started it last weekend. I have to use it for 2 months before embarking on ivf. For me, I am hoping that this treatment can improve the fertilization rate in our next cycle.
I am in a similar situation as you, retroverted plus endo. Did a lap last yr before my cycle, but still failed. This time round, doc not doing lap anymore, I am taking oral tablets instead.
My DH also went for the DNA fragmentation test. I tink the protocol that my clinic is using is quite similar to the SGH one.
 
kitty,
You are not alone. Endo is quite common among ladies. I also have recurring endo problem. I did one lap in 2005, one in 2009. There are various options to treating endo apart from going for lap. You might want to seek a 2nd opinion.
 
Kitty, I had endo and had 1 ovary removed in an '06 operation. Went thru IVF 1st cycle in Aug '09, and am now 21 weeks pregnant.....

So, don't worry and don't lose faith.....8)
 
Gan,
Although SGH orders for more tests, the tests are not 100% conclusive so the results can only give us an idea of what the prob is likely to be. These tests alone cost up to $600+.

Judebabe,
Firstly, continue to think positively till your BT ok?
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My impression of Dr Yu was that she's encouraging cos she reassured me that despite the current situation, it doesn't mean I would not be able to conceive and that the tests could only help to give a better idea of how to prepare for the next cycle. She's very efficient when she examined me. A swab test, US scan etc was done in a matter of 2-3 minutes. We talked for quite sometime though since I need to share my med history with her. I think I'd most likely stay with her
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HGH is human growth hormone and I think like PandaWife, SGH is using Saizen too?
 
PandaWife,
Thx for sharing! Got lotsa qns to ask but was unable to send you a PM. Here they are:
Did you experience any side effects while on Saizen? May I know what was your fertilization rate like? My embies fertilized but they were of poor grades. Did you take a long time to recover from the lap? Are the oral tablets to thin the endometrium? Were the findings from the DNA frag test helpful?
 
Muski,
Let me try and answer you.
1) So far no side effects from saizen. Doc also told me there isnt any side effects. Its easier to jab as compared to lucrin and puregon. The needle is really fine, and fairly painless to jab. But its a very expensive drug... i am with pte, one month supply of it costs $919.
2) I has 18 eggs ER, they ICSI 12 and only 2 fertilized. Out of the 2, only 1 was good grade (8 cells) on day 3.
3) Lap recovery is fairly alright. No pain at all, just have to avoid walking too much so tht we dont stress the wounds (2 little ones thts about 1cm each). My doc gave me 10 days HL and ask me to rest at home. But after 4-5 days, i felt well enough to go back to work.
4)I have an endo cyst in my left ovary, the last cycle, doc do lap to remove it. This time, the med is to try and remove the cyst, bt not sure if it will work. Have to go back for scan next week to check.
5)DNA frag test shows a higher than normal level fragmentation, hence DH has to go on high antioxidant supplements to improve it. He will have to do another test before we start ivf.

Hope this information is helpful to you.
 
Thanks Muski for the encouragement......

I will try to enjoy my 2ww...I only took 4 days off work and i felt like that is like 2 months !!

I read somewhere that implantation takes place 3rd day or the 6th -7th day so i try to endure and not think of work.

when i read thru the post here, you ladies are very strong.. You all persevere despite adversity..

Now i know more about dr Yu SL...Is there any sis here with the same doc ? What about the success rate of SGH ? In KK, it is about 40%. In NUH, it is about 1 in 3.

Good Luck to all !!
 
Judebabe - the success rate in SGH is btw 35-40% as they also have more senior age patients
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muski - gr8 that u are sticking with SGH
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Hi Pandawife,
So how are your consultations with CARe so far? Have you started on anything yet?

Judebaby,
relax relax..You seems really tensed.. watch movies at home, play FB games, drink lots of water and sleep more.. Talk to the eggies, ask them to implant..
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Rostrum,
I saw you saying that after O better not acu.. Alamak.. I didnt know.. How come? I tot after o shld acu too. Then can help to implant? Just like after ET must do acu?
 
Hi Tickles,
I started my growth hormone therapy last weekend. So far so good.. but work is very stressful, i am trying very very hard to relax... nurse told me during the next 3 months, i must try to relax..as it will affect the egg quality.
I will be going CARE again next week on day 2 of menses to do scan, check if the cyst is still there.
 
Tickles....
After ET shouldn't do accup... i agree with zaza..can somebody go ask dr Zou... she only tell me cannot do massage..

Pandawife... may i ask which CARE you are with ? Should be the paragon CARE with angela right ?
 


Yup, CARE at paragon.
I have considered going SGH, but DH feels comfortable with Angela. Hence we decided to stay at CARE after consulting with her.
 

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