IVF/ICSI Support Group


Krisz,

Dr Loh is good so far except sometime i guess he is not in the mood maybe too many patients just waiting to see him, can you imagin he has got 2 consutation room while he is with Patient A in room 1 then his's nurse will call Patient B to wait at room 2 so that once he have done in room 1 he will then proceed to room 2 save time .....
after all he is a good doctor
 
Krisz,

when i was in kk 2nd march to sign the consent form the doctor told me that my FSH was very high and is not very good as she told me is only 20-25% of sucess rate for my case , i was like oppssss....ok i will still give it a try and let see this dream of mine which i have hold for 20 years(i always dream that i will become a mother at the age of 18 hehehehhe) will come true anot.
 
kriz
i spent abit more this cycle as i had gonal F injections which set me back by 1k..else total includ hospital and doc charhes plus scanning etc etc shld be 3 - 4k.

Plus i see my doc many many times as my follicles were damm stubborn, not growing, hence we resorted to injections. Else for normal thaw cycle, doc will just time ur ovulation and then perform the ER.
 
Hi baby,

what time is your appt tomorrow?? I've being feeling quite bloated since 3 days ago around the lower tummy portion and tired the whole week. Have being drinking lots of water as keep getting thirsty
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Let's keep our fingers crossed and wait for good news tomorrow!!!!
 
Chris,

oh no i cannot imagin when my ture comes i have big tummy already now imagin it get bloated and much bigger sure you are having hard time.

For baby sake hang on there.
 
hi Lina, baby, humbug and all,

thanks for the encouragement... have gotten over it already and now looking forward to next round with my frozen ones. read about some of you seeing this sinseh for accupuncture in AMK, and read on the web about the benefits of it, am thinking of trying out....
Do you have have idea when usually do we start on the thawed cycle after the first?

and may the good luck and baby dust in this forum continue to increase!!!
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Hi Baby, it's not totally true that ICSI is for sperm defect.. It is indeed that those with sperm that are sluggish or short-lived needed that.

My fertility specialist told me that at my age (37) there is a chance that the outer layer of the egg becomes tougher for sperm to penetrate and ICSI will be recommended. We had planned for a 50%:50% division of eggs for IVF And ICSI, but the embryologist told me that they did a 100% ICSI. That's where I suspect they must have taken the initiative to use ICSI on the other 50% after a certain time frame (better do that than to let the 50% eggs go to waste..)

My journey for IVF started because we tried for more than 2 years (although slightly more than 1 year is seriously and desperately trying) and my last pap smear result was unfavorable. My OBGYN wanted to do a Laprascopy, HCG (to check abnormality of the cells in the cervic due to the result of the pap smear) and biopsy...

Many friends incl doctor friends told me if I had tried for so long and hasn't conceive, I should not go for normal OBGYN but to see fertility specialist. Then I scan thru all the recommended doctors and decided on this one.

I spoke to her about the result of the PS and fertility issues. What I felt most comfortable about this doc is when she said, "if you are so ready for IVF, you need not go thru Laprascopy because you don't need the fillopian tube. SHe recommended a cheaper test (HSG) to check if the tubes are blocked.. I also did a PS with the hospital and result came back to be perfectly normal!!!

My poor hubby, he had gone thru SA with my previous OBGYN and the result was not detailed enough and had to do a second one.

Our doc always exercise patience with us as I have lots of questions for her (my friend with SGH even asked why I know so much, she said she didn't have os much time with the doc, sometimes it's the nurse that explain to her the test results)..

I am so happy the doc allowed me to take video of the untrasound (which I know some hospitals don't) when my hubby was unable to make the appointments.

I have other colleagues who when other pte hospitals for fertility treatment. One when Glen and spent S$100k in 3 IVFs (all the surgery on the varicos veins on his testes and surgery on her to remove her fibroid and lumps, 2 fresh cycles and a thaw cycle)

My doc did not require me to have my 3 fibroids removes as she said they have no implication on conception, but she did explained that if the fibroids grow alongside my foetus, I may experience false contractions at the later stage of pregnancy, and that the baby may have no room to turn and engage resulting a C-section.

I am sure some of us becomes abit embarrassed to tell some of our relatives/ friends of our IVF, one girlfriend of mine asked if the problem was me or my hubby... You know what, we are so unfortunate to be one of those couple who falls under the "unexplainable infertility" category.

I am sure if I had gone to the same doc my colleague used, both my hubby & I would have spent more than we did with this hospital.

So, my advice is to evaluate the doctor before you continue. If I had trusted my previous OBGYN, I would have spent unnecessary $$ and go thru something I need not and perhaps till today still trying to conceive naturally..

Here, I will say a prayer for you (please do not be offended by my good intention):

Heavenly Father, I come before you in prayer for supply to the need of those in this discussion group. Please continue to give them strength and patience until You turn their dream into reality. Thank you for keeping them safe in Your hands and bless them thru the hands of the medical personnel who are helping you deliver the bundle of joy to them. Father, like You place the seed of love in me and keep it safe, I pray to you to do likewise for these girls and their husband, allow them to glorify Your name thru this joy. In Jesus mighty name, Amen!
 
Girls, one thing my colleague advised me and I really took it:

Stop working after your embryo transfer if you can, some of the bosses these days are not very understanding... I used up all my leave days and even took no-pay leave until I had the PBT but tender the resignation before the confirmation. Doc felt it's a great loss for my maternity, but I am so glad I did, money indeed cant buy the happiness in life!

I now work in a much smaller company and took a drastic pay cut (70%)! But life is much better for me, no stress like before.
 
hi Micky and sweetmama,

thank u so much for ur information. really appreciated it. went for my scan this morning, still 7.5mm, the lady who scanned me told me that i may have to cancel the FET if follicles, not growing,But the doc who reviewed my case told me to come back on Sat. me not sure what is Dr SF Loh's/ kkivf protocol.

Micky,
where did u do ur FET?

good luck to both of u. hope tis cycle will strike.
 
Kimberly

you are lucky that you still can get a job.. unlucky me got chop and still looking for job sigh... bosses are readlly mean.. guess it is their market now.

Baby,

Glad you are doing well.. hope mine will go well for the scan tomorrow also
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I see quite a no. of new names in this thread. To those who hv just embarked on IVF. All the best.

Bloated - How is ur GCG level?
Meowmeow - Glad that you hv gotten over it already...
Ellsa - How are you? bleeding has stopped? BT taken?
 
For myself, i experienced sharp pain at lower abdonminal since Monday and there were bleeding yesterday. Needless said, I broke down. It was fresh blood and happened twice, at noon and at night. Doc brought fwd my scan to today instead of Fri. He said there is one sac and the shape is normal. Me and hubby were relieved after hearing that but I am still worried, esp when I visit the toilet. I am on one week MC now and has been told to rest on bed and minimise movement. Well, afterall, it is not a good sign to see blood. Just came out from toilet and my liner has some light red fluid discharge
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My next scan is next Wed.. hopefully, the sac will grow well.

Btw, I will not be able to go for the gathering on 19 Mar. You gals hv fun!
 
Dun worry, I will stay positive and will not give up on my sac. The nurse said she came across a patient who bleed all the way till delivery.
 
Hi Orangey, KKh has ICSI. No worries..

Hi earthling, it is still better for the sperm & egg to mate 'naturally' as there will tend to be a little slight damage when ICSI is done.

Hi Toey, you can call KKH and make appointment with the gynae. Previously I just check the number from KKH website and call to make appointment with Dr Loh as private. As for seeing pte or govt, it really depends on how comfortable you are with the gynae. A few ladies here actually switch from pte to govt.

Krisz, don't give up hope yet please. Go for the BT as mentioned by the nurse if you are worried.

Micky, 5 more days to go.. endure!
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Chris & Humbug, I will be going for the sacn & BT between 8am - 9am. Most probably will see you gals there? So 3 of us will be seeing Dr after the BT and scan ya
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meowmeow, glad that you have gotta over it and starting with the frozen ones soon. Can I know how many frozen ones do you have?
 
Itjabi, I only moved to stage 2 after 21 days of lucrin. Yours is day 18 and it's good. Less poking of needles and can move to stage 2 earlier
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Good good..
 
Humbug, take it as a break and opportunity for you to fully concentrate on IVF.

You are a very nice lady. Thanks for your great support during my stage 2
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Hugz
 
baby,
thank you. It's not the needles actually but more of the waiting n wondering. Let stay positive ya..Wanted to check, when they ask u to come back for stage 2 must we bring anything? N how much did u pay for the puregon medication?

Bees,
Dont worry, juz pray and believe everything will work out well. My cousin's wife had bleeding throughout her 1st pregnancy so dun worry. She had a healthy baby boy n he is 2 years old this year soo dun worry k?
 
Itjabi, for my purgeon medication, it cost about 3K plus but the amount will be deducted from medisave. Per box of purgeon cost about $400 plus. My dosage is high, so I need to buy more.

Actually I am also very blur. I just move on as days pass. Just bring the scan form and leave the rest to the nurse. When I reached kkh, I told the nurse I am there for stage 2 and pass them my appointment card and wait there. Then the nurse will call me to go to the pharmacy to buy the purgeon. After we bought the purgeon, we informed the nurse and wait for her to call me in for injection where she will guide my hubby and I have the 1st injection there. After that, head home straight as the purgeon need to be placed in the fridge (same as lucrin).
 
Hi kimberly, did doc mention that fibroid could be one of that cause for ur subfertility previously? Btw me also one of those unlucky ones who is diagonsed unexplained infertility, i got patent tubes, ovulation almost mthly, regular menses cycle and HB SA is ok.
Since u had already done ivf, hope u dun mind sharing with did the doc mention they found any possible underlying cause of not able to conceive naturally?
Btw i saw 2 fertilty specs at kkh and gleneagle both discourage me to go thru laparascopy as they feel chances of endo is quite low but i know there are doc who insist pts to go thru that in order to make money.
As for ur opinion on private or govt i think i shld be up to indivdual on the level of comfortableness with the docand also fiancial status. I was previously seeing Dr lc foong in glen but decided to do ivf at kkh coz of successful rate and govt grant coz we want to perserve our cash flow on any potential complications etc. I was like u in the past with no good impression with govt hosp but my view was changed after i visited kkh in dec 08. The service had improved quite tremendously altough Dr loh is fast in consultation due to numberous pts waiting to c him but he is willing to clear ur doubts but he ends the consultaion.
 
Micky, i feel u chance r quite high.

Do u mind sharing how much cash u paid for a fresh cycle with prof ng? I was actually c-ing his partner Dr lc foong for iui.
 
O Bee

You must be scared stiff. I'm sure everything will turn out fine. Just pray and we'll pray for you too.

Hugs
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Bee,

Try to relax and stay positive. If possible try to lie down and try not to move about too much. Dun worry we will all pray for you.


Fairyrose,

yup i'm at 2ww, started puregon last thurs and today going back to KKIVF for scanning and to see Dr for further consultations.


Humbug and Baby,

yeah hope to see both of you there too. hmm i'm going alone myself as hubby working. Hope that we will all have gd news after the scan
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Hi Kimberly,

I understand how you feel and am glad that you have found a less stressful job as previously I was also have a "demanding" boss and I've quited my job so that I can concentrate on my ivf program.

Let's all jia you jia you!!!
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fairyrose
thanks, hopefully ur guess will be right! will definitely post the results once I get it, be it good or bad

Kimberly
many thanks for the prayer and may it come true for all of us. I am the greedy one, trying for the 4th time for a 3rd child. Ur doc sounds great! And u are indeed remarkable, tender ur resignation and take on a smaller pace job, but guess its all worth it.

Bee
take care, minimise movement and rest in bed. It's impt.

Alyssa
I did my cycle at GlenE with Prof Ng SC

Baby
yap, few more days to go. Must continue to stay positive.

Lyn
LC Foong is a very nice doc, lots of ang mos see him for fertility! For fresh cycle, its depends alot on ur response to the gonal-f injections (super expensive drug). If u respond well, then u do need high dosage hence lower costs. I know the glenE package for OR/ER for a fresh cycle cost 5k+, medication and consultations will typically set u back by another few K plus doc fees for OR and ER. All in all, I think I spent abt 13k and as it was my 2nd cycle that time, i claimed 4k medisave. Out of pocket still pretty high. But i am the sort hv to pay, just pay.

When we were first diagnosed with infertility, our goal is to keep trying till our resources run low, no matter how hard it is. It was this determination that kept us going. Stay positive, take 1 thing at a time, lucrin jabs followed by gonal f then OR then ER, just go thru the steps instructed by doc, and soon, a little bundle of joy arrived!
 
hi micky, fairyrose, chris, baby
Thanks for the no. to Dr. Loh from KK. I have been switching from one gynea to another due to work commitment- I can only visit gynea after office hour which means only weekends and night time. As I can't keep on taking leave/MC, my boss is super unhappy with my 11 days MC last year when I took 4 days MC to go for ops to remove polyp. Sigh. I can understand how the others feel about not understanding boss. And now if I am going for IUI, do I need to take leave or MC? I am so afraid of loosing my job as I need $$$ for all these ARP.
Just wondering, do I need to start all over again when I go and visit Dr. Loh? As I have been trying for 3 years, 3 rounds of clomid, removal of polyp, HSG scan ok.
 
It seems all are worried abt the work commitment and the level of boss understanding in this ivf thingy

Did you gals tell boss u gg for ivf? i do not intend to tel if i embark on this, i do not want them to have reason to retrench me over others. haha... market bad, so kinda worried... but not sure how much time taken away from work if doing at kk?
anyone can advise?
 
Hi Bee,
Just ignore the bad thoughts & look forward to the brighter side. Don't worry, should always stay posotive OK? God Bless

Hi Develyn,
Just updating my status. I will be staring the stimulation on 4th week of march. On the weight part i am still overweight though i followed the diet and an hour exercise atleast6 days per week. Now i think its too late to bring down my weight as i am progressing with ivf soon.

Another situation with me is i am going to overseas during the lucrin stage for 3 days. I have ended up with big confusion now. Please anybody could advice on this?
 
Personally, i do not wish to tell my boss my intention for IVF, but how to explain the 2weeks HL after ET leh?

Wat are your views? Tell or dont tell? wat reason to give for the 2wks HL? can share?
 
Hi kimberly - thanks for the prayer. I hope our wish will come true soon. BTW, which Dr you seen for IVF treatment?

Hi Toey - welcome. BTW, as you indicated you can't take MC or leave then it will be a bit difficult for you to see Dr at KK. Government hospital is not flexible as private one.

Hi Bee - Relax and rest well. Hope to hear your good news.

Hi Chris - I like the pig. Yes, let's all Jia Yu Jia Yu

Hi Micky - Good Luck, wish to hear your good news.
 
Hi Kimberly, thanks for the prayer. Your prayer is really comforting to me. I do hope that my wish to have a healthy bb will not be too long to fulfil.

Hi Bee, I can understand the fright and lost that you have went to. It would be difficult for asking u not to think. Try watching some comedy shows to lighten your thoughts. Be positive in your thoughts cos ur bb can feel it. Try talking to your bb. Has the bleeding stop today? Did u try eating the gluntinous porridge with lotus root that was recommended by Dr Zou to another sisters in the forum?
 
Hi there, seeing more and more ladies joinging the strings, I've lost count again..
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<font size="+1">Updates!!!</font>




<font size="-1">Planning to do IVF/FET</font>
Libby (19 Mar 09 will start lucrin)
Equin0x (End Mar09)
Piggy09 (Apr09)
Develyn (Apr09)
Zaza (Apr09)
Sierra79 (May09)
Tany (maybe May09/June09)
Boon (maybe May09/June09)
Fresh (June09 will start lucrin)
LYn (June09)
Orangey (June09)
jas1982 (June09/July09)


<font size="-1">Stage 1 (Lucrin) </font>
Twinstars
Itjabi
WY Koo


<font size="-1">Stage 2 (Puregon / Gonal-F) </font>
Humbug
Baby09
Lina
Chris


<font size="-1">Stage 3 (2WW) </font>
Ladymiz (6Mar)
Ellsa (13Mar)
Krisz (16Mar)
TnT
Sweetmama
Micky
BFP! BPF! BPF!
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BFP! BPF! BPF!


<font size="-1">Graduates!!!! </font>
Bees, Bloated, dobs ....more more more
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Hi Ladies ,

I am back !!!!!

Wow.. spend sometime to catch up with the posts..

Hi Ellsa ,

Stay Positive ya !

Hi Dobs ,

Congrats !

Hi Bloated ,

I lost touch a little.. how is your BT ?
 
hi develyn,

welcome back!!! ^_^

hope you enjoyed your holiday!!!

i enjoyed my cruise very much. really relaxing...

and so shiok for u to can have a balcony room!!!! so envy... hee
 
tany, earthling,
Me too have no intention to tell my boss about IVF. However 2 weeks MC, abit difficult to cover up. Furthermore male colleague in my team is super insensitive. When I'd my polyp removed, they even commented that women are so troublesome to have so many women sickness, lucky I have sons and not daughters. Feel terribly hurt. Can't imagine if I'd to announce to the world that I am going for IVF?
boonboon,
Yeah, it's kind of tough for me. Not easy to take MC.
I've jst called KK for Dr. Loh SF and arrange for Sat appointment which the nurse say cost more. Any idea how does this work?
Even pte hospital too not easy to get appointment. As I was with raffles hospital before. Usually Sat are fully booked even for pte hospital.
Kimberly,
Do you find it easier to get appointment at pte hospital?
I am in the midst of deciding which hospital to go for. Trying to avoid changing hospital during treatment...
 
Toey,
ur male colics are 'horri-terrible' leh... how can say such thing? their mum n wife not woman meh? BTH!!!
 
baby,

u mean for puregon we dont have to pay cash at the pharmacy?$400 per bottle is damn ex la...if dont have to take out cash then not sooo bad..

Develyn,
Welcome home.. How was ur gateaway?
 
Hi Toey,

Last week for fist consultation, I thin I pay about $90 plus (without scanning). Please check with them what is their operating hours, if you are going to do IUI/IVF, most of the time there is a time schedule for you so make sure those timing are able to fix into your working schedule.
 


hi helen
so is glutinuous porridge with lotu roots effective? i wonder how to cook that... can i just throw everything into slow cooker?

my bleeding is not continuous...its like flash flood, come suddenly n stopped immediately. today has been good thusfar n i hv no sharp pain. maybe the swollen ovary has become smaller..
 

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