IVF/ICSI Support Group

cherylng said:
Any ladies doing ivf this month? Wanna start a watsapp group? I hv joined the Nov grp & find support in 1 another & learn a lot in the process...
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I would like to join too. :)
Planning to start stim end Jan but my AF will cross over Feb. So dunno consider of considered Jan?
 


connie_hopeful said:
Hi babyloveyou,did doc say ok for you to proceed with this cycle?
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Hi..I didn't go for my appt in the end, I reckon doc may say it's ok to proceed but I myself don't feel comfortable starting the cycle now with so much meds in me and knowing that I will blame myself for rushing if I fail..I will wait till Jul which is after NUH reno and take this time to build up my health again :)
 
patn said:
I would like to join too. :)
Planning to start stim end Jan but my AF will cross over Feb. So dunno consider of considered Jan?
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Celestialbaby said:
Great. I'd like to join too. However I'm doing egg retrieval this month but not transfer. Can still join?
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pimpim said:
hi .. keen to join as well .. planning to go for ivf on feb ...
failed my first iui @ dec ...
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anneneo78 said:
I din know there was a whatsapp group...anyway i am keen to join..tdy is my 6dp2dt
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Dear @patn @Celestialbaby @pimpim @anneneo78 - can pm me your no. Then I will try to set up our watsapp grp tonight
 
babyloveyou said:
Hi..I didn't go for my appt in the end, I reckon doc may say it's ok to proceed but I myself don't feel comfortable starting the cycle now with so much meds in me and knowing that I will blame myself for rushing if I fail..I will wait till Jul which is after NUH reno and take this time to build up my health again :)
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Meanwhile. Nurse yr health n njoy e new yr first. Jiayou :)
 
Any ladies planning to do ivf in March at kkh under tan hh? Wanna start a watsapp group. I have created one in nov in my 1st cycle n going for my 2nd cycle fresh in march.
 
DawnBB said:
I started acupuncture since Jan 2015 after failing first fresh cycle and have continued with Physician Seah since then for all my cycles. I never stop between cycles.

For medicated FET, no ovulation and no need to test opk but the day you start progesterone support before ET is counted as ovulation equivalent date so they will count from there to schedule the thawing and ET depending on the age of your embryos.
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I see.. When did u do ur current BFP cycle?
 
DawnBB said:
My mum always had painful period cramps but being ignorant, she thought it is normal women thing. She did conceive me naturally only after 8 years of trying naturally but she was young then still in her 20s. Her period cramps continued till she had massive bleeding with clot every period then she saw gynae. It was fibroid that was too late to treat with hormone replacement therapy and she had to have hysterectomy to remove her womb when she was only mid 30s.
So when I was teenage, she always check with me if I have painful cramps or any discomfort with my periods. I was young and didn't understand her point so took for granted. I never have much PMS, not even mild cramps and most of the time wouldn't know until see AF on panties. When going for fertility tests and tcm, fortunately I had no issues but I then learned that PMS and mild cramps are acceptable, but never ignore when you have bad cramps. TCM even believes that if body is in balance including hormones, you can literally have no PMS. I realised there's so little awareness about risks of fertility issues and till now, it's commonly taken lightly if someone has to take MC because almost incapacitated by severe PMS. Actually should get checked as early as possible to rule out any issues causing the painful periods.
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I can attest to this. If your cramps are so painful that you can't stand up straight and that you need to lie in the bed constantly, it is not normal. It is normal to feel discomfort, not severe pain.

I had very bad cramps and heavy menses which can last more than a week. I was 17-18 then and thought it's normal. My GP and my mom thought it's normal too and usually dismiss me with some painkillers. It is until one day that it got so painful that I vomitted. I went to a different GP because my family doctor is closed on Sunday, to be referred to a specialist and within a week, I was diagnosed with severe endo and lying in the operating theatre. From scans, it looks like I have a 4cm and 5cm cyst. Upon keyhole surgery, it was discovered that I had massive amount of cysts which were uncountable, it's cysts growing on cysts which caused the pain. My gynae told me I was his youngest patient then, his next patient was someone in her late 20s, and the rest are in their above 30s.

Unfortunately for me, the cysts will always continue to grow even upon removal. 5 years later, I had an infection in my cysts and was hospitalized again. The doctor privately told my mom (he probably didn't want me to feel demoralized) that it will be hard for me to conceive naturally and when I decide to start a family, I will need assistance.

I still have cysts in my ovaries now. and the adhesions are so bad that my internal organs are tied together, developing to what the doctors called, a frozen pelvis, i.e., the end stage of endometriosis. When I first consulted the IVF doctor, she said we can either go for a lap and removed all the cysts, but because some of the cysts are in my ovaries, this will involved ripping away part of my egg reserve, so she suggested that we can stimulate first, extract the follicles, then lap. The other way is to just try without a lap and see what happens.

I was tired of going into ops after ops all these years, and every lap I had is very invasive for my womb. So I opted for the second option and is really fortunate that my embies are such fighters and held on. BFP on my first fresh and 6+weeks into my pregnancy. Hope to hold my dear fighters in my arms in time to come. So please do not be discouraged if you have a terrible womb conditions. If you are positive and keep on believing, your embies will get your vibes and hold on and be as determined as their mommy! :)
 
anyone kana the same thing as me when doing progesterone blood test?
 

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the_spinsterella said:
Sorry about what happened to your mum.
I so agree there is lack of awareness on this. Some think it's normal to have painful cramps. But actually there may be underlying issues which if detected earlier, could prevent things from getting worst.
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Thanks both for the advice. My cramps have gotten more in control over the years and I'm now not taking synflex or ponstan when I used to pop a pill or two to prevent the cramps from surfacing when my af was to arrive. I do agree that there isn't much awareness on cramps and underlying issues as we as women always think cramps r part and parcel of our menstruation cycles. Recently my cramps start from as early as a week pre arrival of af hence I decided to go for a lap to clearly diagnose if there's any issues and if these r what's hindering my chance at conceiving.
 
cherylng said:
@humbaobao - it's E2P4 test right? I will have bruises / blueblack around the spots that they drew blood from lor...
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Erm... wat is E2P4 test? I kana poke left arm.. say my vein jump.. den poke right arm.. draw abt 1.5 tube den no blood again... den poke right hand... right hand poke alreadt say blood not flowing... den another nurse told her to move the needle in and out den the blood will flow fast... den finally done.. she say my vein blow... den press my hand damn hard till 4 knuckles all blue black..now fingers move aso pain...

First time so bad experience wif drawing blood
 
humbaobao said:
Erm... wat is E2P4 test? I kana poke left arm.. say my vein jump.. den poke right arm.. draw abt 1.5 tube den no blood again... den poke right hand... right hand poke alreadt say blood not flowing... den another nurse told her to move the needle in and out den the blood will flow fast... den finally done.. she say my vein blow... den press my hand damn hard till 4 knuckles all blue black..now fingers move aso pain...

First time so bad experience wif drawing blood
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At which point will this test be done? I don't recall doing it.
 
humbaobao said:
Erm... wat is E2P4 test? I kana poke left arm.. say my vein jump.. den poke right arm.. draw abt 1.5 tube den no blood again... den poke right hand... right hand poke alreadt say blood not flowing... den another nurse told her to move the needle in and out den the blood will flow fast... den finally done.. she say my vein blow... den press my hand damn hard till 4 knuckles all blue black..now fingers move aso pain...

First time so bad experience wif drawing blood
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I had done many cycles and for fresh cycles, was also required to draw blood mid of 2ww for progesterone level tests. There was once, the nurse had to inject second time as the first time though inserted successfully, my vein collapsed halfway before enough blood was drawn. In addition, I have done several intralipid infusion intravenous drips for which the needles poked onto the back of the hand were much bigger then those for blood draws. Never once I had such a large patch of bruise and post trauma pain. This seems so traumatic for you. Really hope this won't happen again for you. Perhaps next time you can alert the nurse and kindly ask them to be gentle and help prevent this. If all fails and they are not sorry, then consider escalating to doctor? Just my opinion.
 
humbaobao said:
Erm... wat is E2P4 test? I kana poke left arm.. say my vein jump.. den poke right arm.. draw abt 1.5 tube den no blood again... den poke right hand... right hand poke alreadt say blood not flowing... den another nurse told her to move the needle in and out den the blood will flow fast... den finally done.. she say my vein blow... den press my hand damn hard till 4 knuckles all blue black..now fingers move aso pain...

First time so bad experience wif drawing blood
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Wa damn bad. Lao Niang will not hesitate to tell her off, and if still like that, complain to the nurse manager. Nobody should be entitled to noob nurses who treat patients like Guinea pigs.
 
Hi i just had my ET on 31st and going for blood test next friday. This is my first IVF and i had done IUI before. Any success stories to share? I need some positive thoughts but yet at the same time scare of disappointment too when i'm too positive.
 
Weilineo said:
Hi i just had my ET on 31st and going for blood test next friday. This is my first IVF and i had done IUI before. Any success stories to share? I need some positive thoughts but yet at the same time scare of disappointment too when i'm too positive.
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Hold on the the Pregnant Till Proven Otherwise mentality, dearie! No one can predict the outcome at this stage with guarantee and only the BT is the final call. During my 2wws, I did refer to twoweekwait.com for Ivf success stories. Rem when you have done all that you can for this cycle, the best thing you can still do and to encourage your embies is to stay positive. Persevere on k. All the best!
 
humbaobao said:
Erm... wat is E2P4 test? I kana poke left arm.. say my vein jump.. den poke right arm.. draw abt 1.5 tube den no blood again... den poke right hand... right hand poke alreadt say blood not flowing... den another nurse told her to move the needle in and out den the blood will flow fast... den finally done.. she say my vein blow... den press my hand damn hard till 4 knuckles all blue black..now fingers move aso pain...

First time so bad experience wif drawing blood
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Ouch. It's really a bad experience. Think u can let the nurse manager know about it on your next visit. E2P4 is blood test for estrogen & progesterone level...
 
humbaobao said:
Erm... wat is E2P4 test? I kana poke left arm.. say my vein jump.. den poke right arm.. draw abt 1.5 tube den no blood again... den poke right hand... right hand poke alreadt say blood not flowing... den another nurse told her to move the needle in and out den the blood will flow fast... den finally done.. she say my vein blow... den press my hand damn hard till 4 knuckles all blue black..now fingers move aso pain...

First time so bad experience wif drawing blood
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A senior nurse told me that I need to alert the nurses since my veins collapse like yours. She said so that they can get ready to "catch" the vein when it collapses.

There was once a nurse who failed to catch my vein and my blood was spurting out and she started screaming to her colleague beside her, Help Me! Help Me!

...there I was, with a needle stuck in the middle of my vein, too frightened to move while all the commotion is happening.
 
I always have problem when it comes to drawing blood. Every single time I have to be poked a few times and the nurses will have to move the needle around when it's already inside me. Record was 5 times but that was not ivf related. Anyway, if anybody has the same problem, the nurse tried something on me last week and it works - she asked me to hold a glove (tied) filled with hot/warm water. And it works! Just sharing cos I know for ivf there's plenty of blood tests.
 
Lufie said:
A senior nurse told me that I need to alert the nurses since my veins collapse like yours. She said so that they can get ready to "catch" the vein when it collapses.

There was once a nurse who failed to catch my vein and my blood was spurting out and she started screaming to her colleague beside her, Help Me! Help Me!

...there I was, with a needle stuck in the middle of my vein, too frightened to move while all the commotion is happening.
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How do we noe our vein collapse?
 
DawnBB said:
Only difference from previous cycle was going for day 5 blastocysts transfer instead of day 2 or 3 embryos transfer. I also skipped longan red date tea as I realised in previous cycle that it tends to cause excess heat after sometime. Instead I alternate between chicken and grass fed beef essence (self double boiled) during 2ww. I also cut or skip on the aspirin when I had episode of bloody nose mucus though I didn't have signs of heatiness. I never had nose bleed in previous cycles before. The rest I continued as per previous cycle.
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Who prepare the essence for you? :)
 
Dreamscometrue said:
Who prepare the essence for you? :)
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Hello. I did myself. I put the meat (about 200-250g = a chicken breast roughly chopped or 1 half inch slice of beef usually I use rib eye, roughly chopped) in a traditional double boil pot. Double boil at least 2 hours. Yields about half small bowl essence.
 
DawnBB said:
Hello. I did myself. I put the meat (about 200-250g = a chicken breast roughly chopped or 1 half inch slice of beef usually I use rib eye, roughly chopped) in a traditional double boil pot. Double boil at least 2 hours. Yields about half small bowl essence.
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I see.. Do u eat the meat or just drink the soup? No need add water?
 
littlejas said:
Despite bleeding for 4 days, I bfp-ed! So to anyone who might be experiencing the same thing, make sure to keep up with the progesterone inserts even if there is blood. Pregnant till proven positive! Baby dusts to all!
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Ooh congratulations and have a smooth pregnancy! :)
Catching babydusts!
 
patn said:
I still have my acupuncture during menses. No issues. except maybe poke different parts?
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Oh I see. I remember that it is not recommended to do acupuncture when menstruating unless it is to help to regulate menses. I will check with my tcm again :)
 
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