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Gan, is this your first session with Dr Zou? I began seeing her in September this year after my m/c from my fresh cycle in July. Previously, I was with Dr Jin at Raffles Chinese medicine. She is good but treatment is too costly.

Dr Zou is good and she comforted me then as my AF became very irregular. She did acucpuncture for me and my AF did improve after that. However, I did not take her medicine as Dr Loh does not encourage his patients to take chinese medication.

Let's jia you together..
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Starbabies i am not sure what reports you are referring to regarding the transfer but if it is blood test reports, i think can ask the nurse to print a copy for you?

I did a blood test in Oct before I start my IVF and when i went KKIVF to check some procedures, i asked the nurse to print a copy of my bloodtest report for me to keep.
 
Gan, I am referring to my BT reports, laporascopy report, and records of my SOIUI, IVF and FET procedures done. Those handwritten copies where they record our stage of growth of follicles and lining, remember? Yah, maybe i'll ask them if can print out for me.

Are you also looking at a change of hospital?
 
Cat, thks! Think government hospital will give more honest opinion than private clinics or hospital bah. No offence to ladies undergoing treatment at private clinic or hospital, please.

And I wish you good luck too for your BT on Xmas-eve. BFP to you....
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Starbabies, i see.. maybe have to check with KKIVF how to transfer all these information to another hospital.

At this moment i will stay on with KKIVF as i still have 9 frozen embryos, so i am planning to do a FET in March next year. But will discuss with Dr Loh on 6 jan about the failed fresh cycle and what can be done to increase my chance in FET.
 
Gan, yes, it will be good to discuss with Dr Loh on the next course of action first. Don't rush into it, nurture your body to good health first before the next cycle, then the chances of succeeding will be greater. Good Luck
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I think I failed my medicated FET this round as I rushed into it even before nurturing my body back into good shape. Before I started FET, I was actually on medication for 2 months to induce my menses, which I think is quite detrimental to my body. A few sisters on this forum advised me against medication to induce my menses but I was too desperate to get my FET started then. It's a learning point for me
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Starbabies, indeed we should make sure we keep ourselves healthy. I was on also on medication to induce my menses in order to start the IVF. Eversince my failed SO-IUI, my menses went haywire.
In order to time my HL to be in december where I can be away from work, I took medication to induce the menses.
Anyway, after I started lucrin, i also got a bad cough and never recover till after ET.

All the best to you too!
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I am sure we will succeed in our next round.
 
starbabies, thanks. Dun mind if I ask. u actually succeeded in fresh cycle but MC? Then proceeded to do FET which did not succeed? n u feel that in both cases is coz u did not tiao ur body enough?
 
Hazel, yes, I succeeded in my fresh cycle in July but had early bleeding on D13. I requested for an early BT then and my HCG was 48.6. I requested for support from the nurses at KKIVF then but they refused to give me any and just asked me to have more bedrest. On advice from my friends, I emailed Dr Loh on the same day who replied me late at night to ask me to go back to KKIVF the next day for progesterone jab and medication to support. But it was too late, the next day, my bleeding increased and i was on the verge of fainting. My HCG level dropped by half 2 days later. I was so devastated and angry with the KKIVF nurse then as this was my first pregnancy. I actually shared my experience with the sisters on this forum in Jul/Aug.

Subsequently, I was very desperate to do FET again and tried all means and ways to get my AF to come, although it has gone haywire, an indication to my poor health, maybe?

I think you are right, in both cases, maybe my body is just too weak to carry a pregnancy. Do you have any secret to your success?
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Thanks starbabies....hopefully i will have the christmas present that i really wanted for this year.

Yes Prof give a very honest opinion about my situation at that time...i thought was cruel and i remember i was even crying...

But this is what make us believe in him as well
 
starbabies, there is no secret, I honestly feel that luck plays a very important role. yes, a woman's health is impt, but it does not mean women with weaker body will find it harder to conceive though it may hv an impact. I hv seen friends with weak body but conceive 1 after n another also.

Tcm medicine takes time. Some take 3 to 6 mths but some take longer. In most instances, like myself, time is not on my side coz I marry late. I year after marriage when I dun conceive, I started taking Tcm medicines.. Another 6 mths later, I went to see a gynae while still on Tcm medicine. My gynae said there is nothing wrong with me n dh n I think my body is quite okay also.... My menses are regular. I took abt 1yr plus of chinese herbs, but Nv succeed. I stopped when I started seeing dr loh... Coz is quite costly to juggle both.

one quick way to 'bu' ur body quickly is take durians. But dun overdose as I dunno if ur body can take it... Cordycepts are very good also but costly. u can get small amount n grind them into powder. 1 tiny scoop, the size of the plastic stirrer scoop every 3 days dissolve in warm water. take when u wake up with an empty stomach.

Tea, be it chinese or english type, cut down. They r very cooling. Cold food also cut down.
After ur monthly cycle, ask ur mum to cook some nutritious soup to recuperate. The chinese medical shop can advise u on that.

actually, the best time to tiao our body is during confinement. our body can turn better or worse during that 1 mth confinement. so a good confinement is impt.

When u r pregnant, the 3rd trimester is impt coz how strong ur bb health will be depend on how u 'bu'. Coz whatever tonic u take, goes to ur bb... We as mothers can give our bb a stronger body to start with. When they r stronger, they dun fall sick as easily.

Hope the above helps. continue to pray, n think positive, N dUN give up.. Good luck!
 
gan n starbabies, thks... do we need to rest at least a cycle between iui n ivf? if so, then the earliest for me would be feb or mar nx yr... i m really encouraged by the many success stories here... gave me more confidence to start ivf... maybe thinking gg to dr zou too... her rates are much lower than raffles med i used to consult but not much results i feel. is the waiting time at dr zou very long?
 
libra, wat happened? From wat I understand, the probability is the same as natural pregnancy. Can't remember the percentage.

In most instances, menses will still come in Etopic pregnancy coz the womb will shred its lining since there is no foetus there. BBT remains high... That is a sign already.. In the 2nd mth, if still not discovered, the foetus will hv grown n high chance of rupture of the tube is foetus is there. the girl will start to bleed heavily n suffer from intense pain.
 
starbabies, it is advisable to allow at least 3 mths gap b/w each cycle because, is better for the body to be cleared of all hormones arising from the jabs. Too much hormones in the body for long period of time is no good.. May result in other problems...
 
starbabies, fyi, I ate Durians before n during the cycle. I will take also when pregnant. Coz Durians will make bb grow faster..

I took red dates n wolfberries drink daily during cycle also.... That improve blood circulation... Maybe that's why my lining is 13mm?
 
Hazel, thanks for all the tips. Actually, Ive been following this forum as a silent reader all along and I think you really have a wealth of knowledge. I must quickly note all these down
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May I ask how to make the red dates and wolfberries drink, please? Just pour hot water over? I remembered you mentioned before to add dried longans also? How about ginger? Btw, for ginger drink, can we just consume those instant sachets?
 
Hazel, btw, I believe what you just said about durians as one of my colleagues told me before that he kept feeding his wife with durians before and during pregnancy. According to him, his parents told him to do so as durians are very 'bu'
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Tigi, Dr Loh at KKIVf will always advice us to rest for at least one cycle before embarking on a new one. Hazel mentioned that it's better to let our body rest for at least 3 months, which I think it's fair enough too, judging from my recent experience of a failed FET. So, it will be good to 'tiao' your body during this period of time.

I don't think you will need to wait for a long time to see Dr Zou if you have made appointment with her beforehand. I was previously seeing Dr Jin at Raffles Chinese Medicine. Dr Zou is highly recommended by the sisters in this forum. Her rates are also affordable too as compared to Raffles.
 
starbabies, my Gf told me abt the Durian part. She was from this forum last time. She has 3 successful ivf... 1 girl, 1 boy n the last cycle she MC.

I pour boiling water on red dates n wolfberries in a thermal flask n let them soak for 45mins. That equals to 1 cup. usually, I will make another cup b4 throwing away.

I m bloated during 2ww. So my mum boiled dried longan drink, with red dates n ginger to reduce the wind. She put in a thermal flask, equal to 1 glass for me. It helps for me..

Even now, my bloatedness has not subsided completely. After food, my stomach becomes hard. But no more discomfort.

Libra, I know all these could be the environment I am brought up with n the pp am exposed to... I married late at 33 n am 36yrs old now... My classmates' children r already pri 1. My mum has 3 kids. No confinement lady, no helper. She took care of herself during pregnancy n confinement. She is close to 60 but still strong. My brother has the weakest body among the 3 of us coz my mum said she did not take care of herself well when during pregnancy as cannot afford it then. I am the eldest n most precious then as It took her 3 yrs after marriage to conceive me though she married at 18. she took alot of tonic then n she did not had any spotting when she conceived me....
 
Libra, BBT is Basal Body Temperature, which is the body temperature to be measured before we get up from bed every morning.
 
libra, body basel temp. Ie ur temp when u first wake up in the morning while still in bed.

at Kkh, even if menses come for ivf patients, still need to take BT to rule out Etopic pregnancy. Coz hormones readings will remain high if Etopic.

Starbabies, I maybe pregnant, but I continue to pray hard for a good pregnancy n smooth 9 mths ahead. Coz pregnant is the start of all worries... Serious..
 
Hazel, you make me worried now whether or not to get pregnant... Haha, joking :p

But, I do understand how you feel. Mothers are always worrying about their children. Pray hard. God will watch over you
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I think when it's my turn, I will probably be worried most of the time too..
 
dear hazel, i agree with you. me too start to worry abt many things and will continue to pray hard for a good pregnancy n smooth 9 mths ahead
 
libra, menses flow. Not spotting. Also, HCG reading goes up n up,... Shld be fine.

Anyhow, nothing is conclusive until 6 wks scan. See sac, see heart beat, safe.

Singapoh, u r right. but for the sake of little one is all worth.
 
Etopic can get pain like cramps also.... At either the left or right side usually. most HPT will show positive as long as it can detect HCG of 30 in the urine.

a frieNd who has 2 children naturally. She told me she took HPT 18days after ovulation n was positive. abt 2 days later, she has pain at one side of the abdomen, so she went to the clinic as she tot it was Etopic. She took a BT n HCG was 60 n she was pregnant. Doc told her to return 2 days again to retest to confirm HCG goes up at a healthy rate to rule out Etopic n it HCG up to 100 plus... So doc confirmed not Etopic.

Early pregnancy, can't scan. Coz embryos too small so can't see anything. 6 wks, sac is formed n heart beat is there, then can see.
 
libra, can't answer u tt. Low HCG can be a no of things. Embryo plant late so slower in growth, but will catch up or embryo no good or Etopic or .... U google the web, lots of info.

Only BT can tell if HCG is increasing at healthy rate. But is still a Number end of the day.. Need to wait for 6 wks scan

similarly higher HCG can subsequently drop also if embryo is no good. Just tt, higher HCG, wun do BT again so wun know till 6 wk scan.

Anything can happen in early stage till delivery. So just continue to pray n be hopeful.
 
Hazel,
eat durian moderately la coz it's high in sugar. I weighed myself. Haven't really gain much weight. Appetite bad in
the evening. My indon helper can cook well
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so far we are getting along well. We just chatted in her room b4
bedtime
 
Singapoh, glad u get a good maid. Do u give her off day or no for the time being? Yes, durians r high in sugar. Thanks for reminding.
 
Hazel,
I think durian is also high in cholestrol.

No day off but I give her nap everyday and
her schedule is very relaxing on Sun
 
Hazel,
I know Indon are not entitled to day off but machine also
need a break. They also get tired like us. That's why I
give her nap and relax on weekends. I already told her
I won't ask her to do things that we can't do ourselves.
She's not super human :p
 


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