sherise123
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hi joining this chat! i am in the midst of my first ivf journey. it doesnt look promising but keeping fingers crossed. im 42.
Thanks for the reply ineedmiracle! Unfortunately, the 3 embryos that survived till blastocyst were not suitable for transfer after pgt. Doctor recommended that I try another cycle but was told to wait for 2 months first because he prescribed medication for my husband to up his testosterone levels.All the best!
Thank you.. Trying not to think too much about it. Maybe a 2-month break is good for us. Jiayou everyone!Hi Kayla,
Sorry to hear that. But IVF is full of ups and downs. Everytime I feel hopeful, it gives me the opposite. Maybe that is why we need to be zen
Jiayou! The next cycle will be a good one.
Hi GoodluckBB,Hi Kayla,
Cheer up and be positive.
You can do this if you rest well and harness all that energy for the next round.
Also, miracles can happen! Some people get pregnant in between of IVF cycles when their body is resting. Just never ever give up... we all deserve to be mothers! ❤
Hi Hoonie,
The first IVF sometimes is like a test cycle for the lab and your doc. Next cycle, meds will prob increase for u. So it shd get better. My first cycle had nothing to freeze too. I started looking for another doc. I was panicking. I'm not gonna lie, I was devastated and cried like a baby. But I only gave myself 1 day to cry it out. In the end, I remained with the same doc for 2nd cycle. There wasn't enough time to switch for me. But 2nd cycle was better... not a lot to freeze but got a few.
In the lab, embryologist will use your previous cycle videos to guide their understanding of your embryo development in next cycle. That's what my embryologist shared with me.
If u switch doc... then it becomes 1st cycle again with a new doc. But u can also share your med records with the new doc and let the new doc decide the meds for u. But if u switch to private, u lose co-fund. If losing co-fund is still affordable for u... then u don't even need consider this factor.
Rest first, take the 2 mths and research on doctors. Either way 2 mths gives u time to prep your body, means eating better to build up... it gives time for your body to rest. It also gives time for u to research, maybe squeeze in a second opinion from another doc first before officially switching. Use the 2 mths wisely... just remember 1 failure doesn't mean you're doomed. Failures bring you towards success. Don't dwell on it and move on. You are stronger than you think.
Hi Hoonie,Hi everyone,
I’m new to this group. I have been ttc for 2 years plus before started seeing Prof Wong from NUH in June 2021. Started seeing tcm practitioner in April 2022. Unexplained infertility. Seems like it’s my age. I’m turning 40 next month. Been through 4 rounds of clomid, 3 rounds of IUI. And just failed my first IVF. I didn’t have any embryo frozen down. So need to start a fresh cycle in 2 months time (hopefully). Anyone one under NUH and had success? I have only 2 more chances for co-funded IVF. Not sure whether I should switch doctor? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks all
Hi Hoonie,Hi countingyourblessings and GoodluckBB,
Thanks so much for your kind words and encouragement. I discussed with my hubby last night, and we decided to stop TCM treatment and acupuncture for now. We will see Prof in Feb and we plan to proceed with our second IVF under NUH (provided no hiccups). We feel that we are already familiar with the procedures and environment there. Plus we both work near there. We feel this arrangement will be the least stressful and least disruptive to our daily lives. We are also planning to get a second opinion from Dr Tan Heng Hao from Alpha in the meantime. I read good reviews about him.
Hello...I was from KKH from beginning to end. I am also a very lax person, no TCM, no multivitamins and I drink bubble tea from beginning to end even during TWW.is anyone at KKH? would like to pm you to share how our experiences are like
I'm 42, just did my first IVF but failed. now going to abort and start afresh after 1 cycle of menses. would like to share on how our experiences are, who your doc was,
I probably am more lax than the average person here as I only took a multivitamin and folic acid- I am wondering now if I am missing out on anything? and I also drank coffee as well as I couldnt work without it. i also exercised, as it helps my body in general and I couldnt live without it.
did anyone do prenatal screening of the embryo prior to implantation? I was told by my doc I cannot do it for the frozen embryos, but i wonder if its true.
there is subsidy: https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlig...-eligible-couples-in-their-parenthood-journey
If you are referring to PGS/PGD before implantation, I did send over my 2 frozen embryos to TMC (JB) for PGS/PGD from KKH. Back then I wanted to know the gender before going ahead with the transfer. Turns out that both frozen embryos were not viable for transfer but I got to know the gender.did anyone do prenatal screening of the embryo prior to implantation? I was told by my doc I cannot do it for the frozen embryos, but i wonder if its true.
there is subsidy: https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlig...-eligible-couples-in-their-parenthood-journey
I liaised with TMC JB and they asked to email to KKH to release my 2 frozen embryo while at the same time, TMC JB applied for permit with the malaysia customs to allow the 2 frozen embryos to come into JB.Hi towkayneo,
I didnt know we can. How did you request it? How much was it? Do u bring it over yourself?
yup, there are more restrictions in SG. Cant do gender testing and selection also...i asked for pre embryo testing but i couldnt do it because my current ones are already frozen. gynae at KK was against it, saying not foolproof and taking cells out of so little cells is harmful.
If you are referring to PGS/PGD before implantation, I did send over my 2 frozen embryos to TMC (JB) for PGS/PGD from KKH. Back then I wanted to know the gender before going ahead with the transfer. Turns out that both frozen embryos were not viable for transfer but I got to know the gender.
The exact wordings are "The result is ready, report attached. The blastocyst is a mosaic male, and not recommended to be transferred"Hello @towkayneo,
Can check with you the reason it were not viable for transfer? Is it due to its grading? Mine are 5BC and 5CC embryos, doctor told that cannot do PGS/PGD.
Jia you!!!Hi all, I just turned 40 last month and had my embryo transfer at KKH last Mon. It's actually my 2nd cycle. My first cycle was with Mt E and had 2 embryos frozen but did not go ahead with the transfer at that time as KKH called to let us know there is a slot with them to start the cycle. My egg retrieval with them resulted in 3 embryos, 1 of which has been used for the transfer. After the retrieval with Mt. E, I also started TCM as well. However, even with TCM, only 3 embryos formed... Was very disappointed when KKH called to inform me about it. So I am also wondering if my 3 months TCM journey helped after all.... Can only pray that it has helped to strengthen my body so as to help the transferred embryo to develop in me. My blood test will be on 13th March. Wish me luck!
dont worry, sometimes TCM takes a while to work and stabilize..40 is still a good age for IVF, relax your mind and most importantly, do not give up! remember to stay cheerful as it helps psychologically as well. Wishing u good luck for 13th MarchHi all, I just turned 40 last month and had my embryo transfer at KKH last Mon. It's actually my 2nd cycle. My first cycle was with Mt E and had 2 embryos frozen but did not go ahead with the transfer at that time as KKH called to let us know there is a slot with them to start the cycle. My egg retrieval with them resulted in 3 embryos, 1 of which has been used for the transfer. After the retrieval with Mt. E, I also started TCM as well. However, even with TCM, only 3 embryos formed... Was very disappointed when KKH called to inform me about it. So I am also wondering if my 3 months TCM journey helped after all.... Can only pray that it has helped to strengthen my body so as to help the transferred embryo to develop in me. My blood test will be on 13th March. Wish me luck!
Hello...I was from KKH from beginning to end. I am also a very lax person, no TCM, no multivitamins and I drink bubble tea from beginning to end even during TWW.
My doctor was Tan Heng Hao before he left for Alpha, then I went to Jessie Phoon (too bad, no chemistry) and finally Liu Shu Ling who wrapped up my whole IVF journey.
You can ask your Q here and I see if I can clarify your doubts.
is anyone at KKH? would like to pm you to share how our experiences are like
I'm 42, just did my first IVF but failed. now going to abort and start afresh after 1 cycle of menses. would like to share on how our experiences are, who your doc was,
I probably am more lax than the average person here as I only took a multivitamin and folic acid- I am wondering now if I am missing out on anything? and I also drank coffee as well as I couldnt work without it. i also exercised, as it helps my body in general and I couldnt live without it.
im with KKH too.Did my first fresh IVF in 2018 with Jessie Poon but developed OHSS hence I did FET instead and it was done by Dr Tan TY as Jessie was on leave. 5 years ago i more enthu, went for months of TCM, Accupuncture, drank red date tea and ate better quality food, apply castor oil
5 years down today, Imback to KKH for my FET again. But this round Im not well prep as previous. Now in a 临时抱佛脚 situation to eat cod fish and drink red date water. this round im under Dr Liu Shuling.
Hi all, I just turned 40 last month and had my embryo transfer at KKH last Mon. It's actually my 2nd cycle. My first cycle was with Mt E and had 2 embryos frozen but did not go ahead with the transfer at that time as KKH called to let us know there is a slot with them to start the cycle. My egg retrieval with them resulted in 3 embryos, 1 of which has been used for the transfer. After the retrieval with Mt. E, I also started TCM as well. However, even with TCM, only 3 embryos formed... Was very disappointed when KKH called to inform me about it. So I am also wondering if my 3 months TCM journey helped after all.... Can only pray that it has helped to strengthen my body so as to help the transferred embryo to develop in me. My blood test will be on 13th March. Wish me luck!
can try your MP...Hi Ladies
I just failed my 4th fresh cycle and have finished the two co funding. Any idea if we can appeal and request for more co funding?
Thanks for sharing. I'm undergo first ivf stimulation and thinking about PGS as well. Doctor said the lab will be careful to minimize the damage to embryo. If result is bad they will not do transfer, as it definitely leads to a fail pregnancy. So we may end up having no embryo even though reaching blastocyst. I'm still not sure to go ahead or not. l saw in this forum, someone had a baby with day 3 grade C. So that means even day 3 can have good chromosomes?Just to share my view on pgt/pgs. One time my ivf cycle produced 3 blast, all considered " slow" in multiplying stage, or not up to expectation, but, even slow, still reach blastocyst stage. So doc recommeded for pgt/pgs, to check for abnormality. Result came back, one normal, one mosaic and one abnormal. So planned for FET after 2 months with the only one normal blast ( somemore revealed the gender to me). I put very high hope for the transfer, guess what, the blast failed to expand on the morning of transfer, but, instead, the mosaic can expand well. So at the end, transferred both into uterus and no miracle happened in beta test. During the review session, doc explained, the normal blast was injured possibly due to the " tiny hole" drilled to take out some cells for testing on chromosome, and the freezing and thawing process were just too challenging for the blast with tiny hole. Somemore, this slow grower blast possible was at reduced quality since beginning. For mosaic, the successful rate is always lower than normal blast. After listen to all these, i just felt one thing, i should just transfer them without the invasive screening, if i was lucky, the first transfer was the normal blast, i would have chance to get positive beta. It was just 3 of them, uterus can be the screening agent, good one have chance to implant, abnormal will fail. Why need to go thru the drilling hole process as the freeze and thaw are already a big challenge for those snow babies. It is just my thought. If i have more blasts ( like 7, 8, 9..) then maybe can opt for the pgt/pgs, since it helps to screen out good one to transfer ( faster to achieve pregnancy). No wrong to use technology, but, think, is it really nessary?
I would say that chromosomes is like by default, regardless of the day of cultivation. So meaning to say, for example, if your chromosomes are not so good (layman's term), even if you managed to cultivate it into a blastocyst, it might not lead to pregnancy, vice versa.Thanks for sharing. I'm undergo first ivf stimulation and thinking about PGS as well. Doctor said the lab will be careful to minimize the damage to embryo. If result is bad they will not do transfer, as it definitely leads to a fail pregnancy. So we may end up having no embryo even though reaching blastocyst. I'm still not sure to go ahead or not. l saw in this forum, someone had a baby with day 3 grade C. So that means even day 3 can have good chromosomes?
Thanks for sharing. I'm undergo first ivf stimulation and thinking about PGS as well. Doctor said the lab will be careful to minimize the damage to embryo. If result is bad they will not do transfer, as it definitely leads to a fail pregnancy. So we may end up having no embryo even though reaching blastocyst. I'm still not sure to go ahead or not. l saw in this forum, someone had a baby with day 3 grade C. So that means even day 3 can have good chromosomes?