Ectopic Pregnancy and trying to conceive

Ladies,

After keyhole surgery for EP, when will the mensus period return?
It has a month since my surgery but mensus hasn't happen, only have some milky white discharge.
 


Hi jkoh, tks for your encouragement. You hv been very brave to face all these challenges. It is not easy.

You mentioned after your first ep, your doc said your other tube was ok but you got ep on this other tube subsequently. Did the doc explain y.? Wld there be a reason for doc to keep the tubes in the first instance, otherwise for us who hv ep, they wld hv removed both right in the beginning, right?
 
Ladies,

After keyhole surgery for EP, when will the mensus period return?
It has a month since my surgery but mensus hasn't happen, only have some milky white discharge.
Hi june2012,

Has your hcg level dropped.? U need it to drop before menses can resume. I think you can kiv..if there are alot of milly white discharge, it means u r ovulating again which also means your menses shd come quite shortly after. Take care.
 
Hi jkoh, tks for your encouragement. You hv been very brave to face all these challenges. It is not easy.

You mentioned after your first ep, your doc said your other tube was ok but you got ep on this other tube subsequently. Did the doc explain y.? Wld there be a reason for doc to keep the tubes in the first instance, otherwise for us who hv ep, they wld hv removed both right in the beginning, right?
Unfortunately no explanation is given. The whole ep experience has taught me to take it easy, really nothing much we can do. Even if you do a test on the tube, and the report came back to say it is unblock still it doesn't 100% guarantee no ep.
Doc will usually keep the tube for patients who still have desire to have children esp when the tube is not too damaged. If you only experience one ep, you can still proceed to try naturally. I have heard of people who succeed naturally after one ep.
 
jkoh, I agree with you that we need to take things easy. What's yours will be yours someday.

You went to take e hsg (tube test) before? It seems like there are many things that can't be explained.

Maybe u can try "bu" your body with tcm? I'm thinking abt it too.
 
jkoh, I agree with you that we need to take things easy. What's yours will be yours someday.

You went to take e hsg (tube test) before? It seems like there are many things that can't be explained.

Maybe u can try "bu" your body with tcm? I'm thinking abt it too.

Now i am thinking to go to DR Charles Lim clinic for further scans to see if my other tube is really working well. Currently i am on TCM medicine.
 
jkoh, I agree with you that we need to take things easy. What's yours will be yours someday.

You went to take e hsg (tube test) before? It seems like there are many things that can't be explained.

Maybe u can try "bu" your body with tcm? I'm thinking abt it too.
I have seen tcm for the past 1 year. Just surrender, the brewing of medicine is too tiring.
 
Now i am thinking to go to DR Charles Lim clinic for further scans to see if my other tube is really working well. Currently i am on TCM medicine.

Shirlynner, can pm me your feedback on Dr Charles Lim if u go to him. I'm going for my first follow up appt in early Nov. Prob I will also ask on the hsg test to find out more. Think it will be good if we can do the necessary checks on our end.
 
Shirlynner, can pm me your feedback on Dr Charles Lim if u go to him. I'm going for my first follow up appt in early Nov. Prob I will also ask on the hsg test to find out more. Think it will be good if we can do the necessary checks on our end.

I went to him this morning. Didn't do any hsg test, anyway he is able to do a X-ray test on the Fallopian tube to see if there is any blockage or not. No need to do hsg test I think. Anyway blocked Fallopian tube will go away by itself de. Our own body able to fight and recover on its on.
 
I went to him this morning. Didn't do any hsg test, anyway he is able to do a X-ray test on the Fallopian tube to see if there is any blockage or not. No need to do hsg test I think. Anyway blocked Fallopian tube will go away by itself de. Our own body able to fight and recover on its on.

Hi Shirlynnler,
How was the x-ray done to check fallopian tubes? Is it painful?
I heard need to inject some liquid into vagina for the x-ray. Not sure how painful it is.
 
Hi Shirlynnler,
How was the x-ray done to check fallopian tubes? Is it painful?
I heard need to inject some liquid into vagina for the x-ray. Not sure how painful it is.

Yup. They will insert something through the vagina and take the X Ray. I don't think it's very painful. I never did it today because I went to kkh for follow up check up, and was told that my other tube was fine and they even show me the picture of my right tube. So I didn't do the X Ray, dr lim just did the scan for me and tell me I have mild PCOS and he gave me the medication to recover, on top of that, I was given a medicine to allow my both ovaries to ovulate.
 
Thanks for the update, Shirlynner.

I heard that hcg has risks too. The xray liquid may damage the tissues inside. Sigh.

It's good that your other tube is fine. I'm wondering if we shd go for IUI or something like that? I heard that IUI can go for eggs released by the ok tube, hence, lesser risk.
 
Thanks for the update, Shirlynner.

I heard that hcg has risks too. The xray liquid may damage the tissues inside. Sigh.

It's good that your other tube is fine. I'm wondering if we shd go for IUI or something like that? I heard that IUI can go for eggs released by the ok tube, hence, lesser risk.

Ya. That why I didn't want to take hsg test. IUI have to go through the tube and will have higher risk resulting in ectopic as well. I think ivf should be ok. If not u can visit dr lim to have detailed scan first and he will prescribe u a pill to speed up the ovulation.
 
Ya. That why I didn't want to take hsg test. IUI have to go through the tube and will have higher risk resulting in ectopic as well. I think ivf should be ok. If not u can visit dr lim to have detailed scan first and he will prescribe u a pill to speed up the ovulation.

Thks Shirlynner, can pm me his contacts?

I'm also wondering if ivf is good for us because we only hv ectopic once and still hv a good chance of having normal pregnancy (i hope), yet on the other side, as best as possible, we also want to avoid another ectopic. Dilemma..

Anyone going to any tcm? Any recommendation for Thong Chai?
 
Thks Shirlynner, can pm me his contacts?

I'm also wondering if ivf is good for us because we only hv ectopic once and still hv a good chance of having normal pregnancy (i hope), yet on the other side, as best as possible, we also want to avoid another ectopic. Dilemma..

Anyone going to any tcm? Any recommendation for Thong Chai?

You can try natural than try natural lo. Ok. Did u lost a tube or what ? If not try again, cause there are successful pregnancy after ectopic de .
 
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For tcm, I go to Yishun one because it's near my house. So far not bad.

The below 2 pics are recommended by forum though I never try before.

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I have few contacts. Probably u can try. Heard Chinatown one not bad ...
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Thanks, Shirlynnler. :)

Both my tubes are still intact. I think my main worry is, would the tube that has ectopic before "fails" again in future, leading to another ectopic as there may be scarring issues. Gynae also told me the possibility of getting ectopic again is 10%. Also, for the other tube which is "ok", is it really ok?? Sigh.

I have the same concern as u. Once u have ectopic before u will be worried that this will happen again. :(
 
Thanks, Shirlynnler. :)

Both my tubes are still intact. I think my main worry is, would the tube that has ectopic before "fails" again in future, leading to another ectopic as there may be scarring issues. Gynae also told me the possibility of getting ectopic again is 10%. Also, for the other tube which is "ok", is it really ok?? Sigh.

I have the same concern as u. Once u have ectopic before u will be worried that this will happen again. :(

I have the other tube being removed cause it has been ruptured. I am also afraid of having pregnant again, but comes to think about it, sometimes it's just a matter of luck we have such experience. But must have faith, try again first, don't give up. Ivf also will have risk of having ectopic de, it's all depends on the skill of the Doctor as well.
 
I have to accept the fact that I have this and move on. Don't think about it first unless it happens again. I must have faith. Meantime u can try visiting tcm to Tiao your body first and let ur emotion recovers first will be better. The rest can think later :)
 
Shirlynner, thanks. Yes, I agree with you that we have to accept that this has happened and we have to move on. Let's jia you together! :)
 
I heard from the doctor try not to take things that are heavier than 5kg. The nurse also told me the "internal" bit needs 6 weeks to recover. So, I think better not to over exert yourself/ carry heavy things for these 6 weeks to play safe...
 
Hi ladies, check with u how long your bleeding last after the surgery? And when did your first AF come after the surgery?

After the surgery, I bled for about 9 days. This ended earlier this week on Tues. Now (Sun evening), the bleeding seems to start again and I'm wondering if it is my AF.
 
Hi ladies, check with u how long your bleeding last after the surgery? And when did your first AF come after the surgery?

After the surgery, I bled for about 9 days. This ended earlier this week on Tues. Now (Sun evening), the bleeding seems to start again and I'm wondering if it is my AF.

I starts to bleed 3 days after my surgery. And it bled about 4-5 days. Did you arrange for cleaning of womb when u had the surgery? Or u are on mtx?
 
Shirlynner,

I started to bleed on the 4th day after my surgery then it lasted for about 9 days. It ended on earlier this Tues then now, seems like I'm starting to bleed again.

I opted not to clean the womb because I was advised that if I didn't opt, it's ok too, because the tissues will pass out by itself. I didnt have any mtx at all.
 
Shirlynner,

I started to bleed on the 4th day after my surgery then it lasted for about 9 days. It ended on earlier this Tues then now, seems like I'm starting to bleed again.

I opted not to clean the womb because I was advised that if I didn't opt, it's ok too, because the tissues will pass out by itself. I didnt have any mtx at all.

Maybe you should observe the bleeding first for now. Some ladies will encounter bleeding if not u can go back to the doctor and do a scan for u to see if there is any internal bleeding? Menses usually starts 5 weeks after surgery.
 
Hi Shirlynnler,

The bleeding subsided for a few wipes, I didn't experience any pain so I didn't go see doctor. Thanks for asking. :)

Are you trying to concieve now? Via natural? Jia you! :p
 
Now i am thinking to go to DR Charles Lim clinic for further scans to see if my other tube is really working well. Currently i am on TCM medicine.
Talking about Charles Lim, he's definitely a great fertility doc who solely believes that every woman is more or less PCO / PCOS and he will prescribe to every woman metformin. I went to him in 2012 and yes, I got pregnant for the 1st try under Plan A. Unfortunately, it was EP. For Charles Lim, he's specialised in how to make you pregnant, but not how to take ectopic pregnancy away. It took me 2 jabs of MTX, 2 DCs and finally removal of one tube to get over the whole episode. I regret not going to KKH for a 2nd opinion when I was diagnosed with EP - KKH is better equipped with better equipment. I felt stupid paying a premium price to undergo unnecessary procedures.
 
Talking about Charles Lim, he's definitely a great fertility doc who solely believes that every woman is more or less PCO / PCOS and he will prescribe to every woman metformin. I went to him in 2012 and yes, I got pregnant for the 1st try under Plan A. Unfortunately, it was EP. For Charles Lim, he's specialised in how to make you pregnant, but not how to take ectopic pregnancy away. It took me 2 jabs of MTX, 2 DCs and finally removal of one tube to get over the whole episode. I regret not going to KKH for a 2nd opinion when I was diagnosed with EP - KKH is better equipped with better equipment. I felt stupid paying a premium price to undergo unnecessary procedures.
Does metaformin helps? I stopped eating le cause I don't know it is good or not
 
I don't know but it controls your sugar level. Diabetic patients eat metformin. Guess it's to control PCO / PCOS?

It was my friend who recommended me to Charles Lim, like me, she was also prescribed metformin. If you visit the thread "Charles Lim Mt E", think most women in the thread took metformin as prescribed by him.

He's a brilliant doctor, no doubt. But I have doubts on his ethics.
 
hi Belle, i have an EP and managed to conceive after that. Doctor told me my chances of getting pregnant again after EP was abt 50%, so i did not pin too much hope. But i succesfully concieve with my gal after that. All my pregnancies are really hard. i went to chinese sinseh as well. I have Miscarriages as well in between. I did not give up though the fear was in me. I now have a 8 yr old boy and a 18mths gal. don't give up :)

Hi

When u conceive after your ectopic, how long do you wait to go for scan to make sure its in the right spot?
 
hi prayingformiracle, when i know i'm pregnant, i went straight to a gynae to make sure the cell is in the right spot.
thereafter... follow up closely :)
hope everything goes well for you.
 
Hi Shirlynnler,

My case is quite similar to yours. My gynae couldn't find the yolk sac in nt uterus and tube, even after many scans and mri scan. But by week 7 and hcg level 14k, my gynae said let's just do the opt on 14 Sep, end up found the pregnancy in my left tube.

However, my gynae managed to save my left tube and said my other tube looks healthy. But the risk of me having another EP is 10 times higher cos of the scar tissue.

That's why I'm very scared to try again. I'm trying to let it go and be positive.

Hugs to all brave women here. Stay strong!


Hi June, may I know who is your doctor that save your fallopian tube at that time? Mind sharing his name? I need a good doctor that helps repair tube from a tubal pregnancy. As time is of essence, really hope you can see this post in time. Really appreciate, thanks!!
 
Yes, mine started at the left tube as well. I had my left tube removed and went on to try to conceive again in 4 mths time. Unfortunately it landed on another ectopic on the right tube. Doc managed to save the tube but it has been more than 1.5 yrs since then, and no news yet. I have moved on to IVF.
Yes, if ectopic s discovered early, you can opt to dissolve the pregnancy via injection. But in my opinion, removing the tube is better because u dont have to worry it get stuck in the damaged tube again.
Don't blame your health on ectopic. Ectopic has nothing to do with flu, cough etc. We are just unlucky.
Take your time to recover and count on the blessing you have #1 already.
Wish u a speedy recovery.
I share your heartache!
Hi JKOH, may I know who is your doctor that save your fallopian tube at that time? Mind sharing his name? I need a good doctor that helps repair tube from a tubal pregnancy. As time is of essence, really hope you can see this post in time. Really appreciate, thanks!!
 

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