(2013) ivf/icsi mummies Support group

Hi saralyn, thanks for ur reply! U delivered at tmc? Can i have a roughy gauge of ur bill? Its only the room fee will be x1 and the rest like delivery fee and other misc etc like u stated is x2 correct?
 


Lil, well done on your first night shift! You deserved a pat on your back.. Is not easy to do night shift.. My husband and I did once only and my husband called it quit! He started to find help to come and do the night shift now like getting a CL, nanny, maid, his parents etc. haha. I told him he can't escape from doing it one.. So I told him to wake up once in the middle of the night to accompany me while I pump to let his body accustom to the waking up in the middle of the night so when we really have to do the night shift he won't feel the impact so much.
 
Mei2, yes I just delivered at tmc. My bill for each boy is around 5-6k before medisave deduction..

The room charge is under the mummy bill. Is not part of your babies bill. Your baby will be charge by per day rate for the nursery or nicu and the taking care fee and etc.. I would strongly advise you to check the detailed bill when you settle the bill. I found items which we did not ask for being charged to us..

You are having twins? When is your edd? So excited to know more twins mummy..
 
Saralyn, thanks! Yup but very early at 6 weeks plus only, edd is early feb but will deliver mid jan i assume.. kiasu and wanted to find out more abt the hospital bill :p
 
Saralyn, did your twins go home with you? How long were they warded?
Mei2, I delivered my girls at KKH - I booked A class c section package which is about 7500 but I extended one more night so bill for me was between 8000 and 8100. Each of my twins bill came to 1000+ each but they were in the normal nursery for the whole time including the extra night. No need to come out cash for them...just medisave
 
Mei2, Oic... Take good care now.. Be extra careful and rest well..

Mofmm, one of them went back with me after my 4d3n stay. The other stay an extra day because of jaundice. They were sent to nicu for afew days and maybe that's explain the high cost? My bill is around the same as yours, 8k+..
 
Hi Saralyn, yeah the ICU cost per night is triple the normal nursery cost. Re your qn on how my CL copes if 2 cry at the same time, the maid or I would be around so there is always one person to one baby ratio. When I go back to work, other than laundry and basic cooking, the maid's primary duty is to help my full time nanny take care of the twins. Weekend then do housework like ironing, clean toilets when hubby n I are around to help.

I am getting really upset with my in laws. They came to visit and Twin A started to cry. CL was out with my hubby buying groceries. Mil picked Twin A up and failed to comfort her while my hands were full with feeding/burping Twin B. MIL demanded for a pacifier which I refused to give - we have never used one. Then she demanded I feed the baby though the baby had finished a 100ml bottle 2 hours earlier and was obviously not crying for milk (no searching action). I again held my ground and told her the girls are on a 3 hour schedule. Then she called in my maid, asked her to hold the baby, and change her diaper. Maid said baby didn't poo but I told her open diaper in front of MIL to satisfy her. Really nothing. MIL then insisted I let her hold Twin B and hold Twin A. I refused, telling her that if she said she want to take care of my girls, it's both not one she has to handle. Her reaction? Rush out of my house to look for a herb in the garden that she claims will ward away evil. In the meantime, I picked Twin A up and she quieted after a while. MIL returned with the herb which she dusted around the cot. Then demanded I put sleeping Twin A down. I obliged and twin A started crying again. So I had to hold her and she quieted. Then my CL came back and my MIL told her that the herb worked and to use it Everytime the baby cry. What a liar!
All this shows me what will happen to my babies if I leave them at their house! Pacifier, random/over feeding and finding herbs. Later, she blamed me for letting my friends visit the day before and claimed this was y Twin A cried tho Twin A has been like this the past weeks.

I also can't fathom why she keeps wanting to quit her job to take care of my daughters and both PIL keep insisting we leave our daughters with them and only take back during the weekends. My MIL has zero exp taking care or raising babies and its like she wants to have a second chance. They keep saying when the kids are 7-8 months must bring to their house daily etc. I have no idea why they can't let us alone to raise our children in our home but want to be the primary caregivers. My children belong with me and we are able to provide for them financially with a nanny and a house. Only when the children are older will I leave them for a few hours at the in laws but for them to move to my in laws home and for me to only see them a few hours after work and weekends is unacceptable. I have told them so many times yet they keep repeating this, knowing full well my job is flexible hours wise and I can well afford a nanny. Makes my blood boil with rage listening to their ideas how I should ferry my maid over with the girls daily or just leave at their home till weekends. I am the mother - why should I end up visiting my kids?

My husband finally lost it at them when his parents called in the evening to insist they were right as his mum's cousin's daughter said that BM only keeps baby full 2 hours.
All the parents rely on is hearsay - with zero exp raising a baby, we really resent them telling us how to take care of the twins esp when we have a confinement lady with tons of experience.

Sigh! Motherhood has indeed taught me 2 things - getting the husband on your side is crucial and money is vital so that you are not at the mercy of in laws.
 
Saralyn, I had my menses ard 2 mths after delivery. Abit Sian but no choice... I think should be ok maybe different individuals different. Rem to take precaution if you aren't planning for next one yet haha!
 
Mofmm, thanks!
I know its not easy to jagar twins but u have to chill k
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take care!
 
Hi ladies, Do you gals experience heavy discharge nearer to your due date, i have it during the night when i was sleeping. I thought my water bag burst.....
 
mofmm - yr mil really monster in law. it is scary when they think they r knowlegeable but r not.

gals -need advice. my gal hasnt poop for 6 days... just made appt to see pd tom. shd i wait it out for her to poop or see dr? see drr sure use suppository. not sure if it hurts.
 
MofMm, hope u have cool down. At least your hubby is on your side. I feel you coz we all want to protect our kids. Your mil sounds a bit unreasonable. How can want twin b instead of a. Doesn't sound like someone you can entrust the bbs.

You are lucky, can have maid and babysitter. So dun need angry le, your mood will affect the babies.

When I go back to work next month, I think I will leave my bb with my parents hse till weekend. It's definitely not my wish but I seriously doubt if I can cope after a tiring day and still need to do laundry or ot....

Today, I managed to use the stroller to bring my bb to my parent's hse alone, happy. At least bb gets to see us n our home in the night. Next month, at least he will revognise his home at least. It's so sweet to hold bb in my arms each morning n zz with him on my king size bed.
 
Whiteclover: is ur bb on bm or fm or mix? If on bm, bb shd able to poo . Mine was on mostly bm and fm at night. He also didn't poo for 4 days. Dr gave him lactulose.
 
Mofmm, hope you feel better after venting. Luckily your DH is on your side. Think the only way is for your DH to talk sense into your in laws. I think what I dread most about having a child is the adjustment of family ties/relationship. Everything else like night duty, we can handle or find a solution but dealing with family is hard. So far my mum and in laws are giving us space but I can see and sense them wanting more and more of the action sooner than later. My mum and I already have disagreements about some things so I was just telling my DH yesterday that it is like waiting for a time bomb to explode. I joked to my DH that I have the ultimate weapon up my sleeve. It is like a WMD (weapon of mass destruction) and that is if his parents or my mum ever piss me off, I'm going to forbid them from ever seeing their grandson again. Of course I would never do it but knowing that I have a choice is comforting in itself. So rest assure that, being the mother, you have the choice and can call the shots!
 
my gal on total bf,

thks diantang, preciousbaby - now i know got other options other than suppositories. hope my baby can give me a big poo poo b4 her appt tom.
 
Babysmurf, Simmons cot mattress not available in Singapore. Only in the US.

MofMM, I totally understand how you feel. I don't mind leaving my baby with caregiver on weekdays when I return to work but has to be my mum not my mil. My mil has poor exp with babies although she used to look after my nephew together with the in-law. And she is quite the opposite of yours. My bb going through growth spurt and has to be fed every 2hrs. MIL will carry and try to make him sleep instead of feeding him! And even after feed, she'll be so quick to want to make him sleep. Gives my bb no play time! :S

Whiteclover/ Lil, I'll pm you agency contact when I have laptop access tonight.

Btw ladies, since I stopped bf and put bb on fm, he's been pooing everyday! Coincidence much?
 
Mofmm, the feeding incident sounds so familiar.. Exactly what happened to me and my mil at my place too. Just that she goes through my husband.. I lost my cool and released my unhappiness during that night with her and told her stop saying my boys are hungry! Learn to differentiate hunger and crankiness or just want a comfort carry.. Anyway be cool.. Think of it in a good way that they are here to help you.
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And lucky your husband is at your side too.. I'm glad mine is too during that night.
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anyway lets jiayou! Looking after baby is not easy and plus we have 2 somemore.. Nothing will bring us down.

Hope, I don't know is it period or not.. My lochia was like finishing last week.. And then suddenly bright red flow again. Is not heavy like period but the discharge is period kind..
 
Reikibaby, I'm not too sure lei coz I just measure now and then. Last measurement was 63cm. What about you? Hey is your boy having 5 or 6 feeds a day?

Saralyn, hmm maybe u monitor first? My lochia lasted for around 6 weeks I think.
 
Hi thought of buying baby carrier . Can recommend where can I get?any brand to recommend ? Anyone come across any seller in smh?thks
 
Hope, mine 7 feeds a day. Last mth went pd, the nurse measured my boy 62cm. Then said how can grow 5cm so wrote 61cm. This mth another nurse measured and when she saw the increase was 5cm she said on average 1-4cm. Then said she probably overstretched my boy...er...mine is a baby not rubberband., how to overstretch? And she jot down the ht with 4cm increase....*faintz*

Diantang you can consider those hip kind..smh bulk purchase hv.
 
Hi mummies, I went taka to shop just now. They moved the bb section to 4th floor n bring in more new brands like carter, dkny etc. more interesting range now.
 
Reikibaby, I don't measure every month. But he's grown 11cm since birth so around 3-4 cm a month on avg?
 
reikibaby I dont know how many cm she has grown, she is abt 63cm during 4month visit. what is your bb height now?
 
White clover & lil, I've pm you the maid agency contact.

Reikibaby, why does bb need to see pd every month? Your bb is quite long hor? I think you and your hubby must be very tall.
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Koirc,
1st mth we did a 1mth development checkup.
2nd mth bb had 6-in-1 and rotavirus vaccination.
3rd mth bb had pnuemoccol vaccination.
Nxt mth will be 6-in-1 and rotavirus vaccination.
Frm the schedule, we are seeing pd mthly but tink somewhere in 7th - 8th mth no jab...cant recall...heee
 
Reikibaby: is it a must to do Rotavirus at second month? I may be doing it at third month . Thks for the info on the carrier . Thinking if getting manduca
 
My maid going back today, not sure if I can cope without maid doing the housework...

Oh my girl suppose to go for inj this week, should I take 5-in-1 or 6-in-1? with pneumococcal. I get confuse cos the vaccination prog the polyclinic gave me is 3mth only 5-in-1 and Pneumo. 6-in-1 comes in on 5th mth
 
Hi Ladies,

will you send your bb to infant care? I found one near my place currently only 6 bb and 3 teachers. But my MIL said no good as no one to chat with bb they just feed and let bb sleep that's all no 100% attention. But leaving with my mum, I 'm not sure the maid can handle as she needs to look after my mum and my older nephews.
My MIL will only want to look after if we got maid... Don't know how to settle my bb when I go work (a few days a week)
 
Reiki baby, is rotavirus optional? Just brought bb to polyclinic for 5 in 1 baby is 59 cm haha. I guess I didn't 'squeeze' her enough when I measure her!
 
Reikibaby, I see. Our 1st visit to pd was around 6 weeks and that was just developmental checkup. Then the recent one at 3 mths for 6-in-1 jab and rotavirus. Next visit will be in 2 mths' time when bb is 5 months old.

Dian tang, I bought manduca at friend's recommendation. Wanted to get bjorn initially. Didn't try other carriers but manduca is quite good.

Znatasha, you're not planning to get a new maid? My mum also requested for a maid to help out with housework so that she can focus on looking after bb. That's why we hired one.
 
Znatasha, we're sending our baby to infant care when I go back to work because we have no choice as my mum works, my in laws live overseas and we don't want baby alone with maid at home. Think it should be okay but definitely less affection than if my mum/in laws take care and also baby will definitely get sick more often. But this is the best option for us.

Koirc, thanks for the maid agency contact!

Have not open my windows in 2 days! So hazy!
 
Hi mummies, do any of you freeze ebm for baby for future consumption? I heard and read there is a metallic smell in frozen ebm and I was wondering if your baby still accept the milk. Thanks!
 
Koirc: yes yes hear that Manduca is good. Which model do u recommend? The prices are quite the same for various sellers. Where do u purchase?
 
Znatasha : polyclinic follow the national prog. Moreover now 5 in 1 is free , can save a lot . But poor bb have to be jab twice in his 5th month for hep b and 5 in 1
 
Dian tang, i m looking at either i angel or pognae as a baby carrier. still considering which brand to buy. saw pognae at fair last month. quite good. Hipseat is popular now. U might wan to consider these two models too?
 
Znatasha, if you are with polyclinic, then maybe just follow their schedule? I just follow my pd schedule. Maybe babysmurf can advise on how polyclinic jab goes...

Diantang, hope, think rotavirus is optional. Cos i paid a package for his jabs till 24mths... So wats in i will take.. Lolz.
I think my MMR includes one mre chickenpox vaccination.

Hope, some will straighten baby legs some just agar agar one... Next visit im going to double confirm the length and not let the nurse wite as she likes liao... Haha

Koirc, oh you dun see mthly. Then when your baby taking pnemococol vaccination?

Lil, febm have a strange taste and smell. I gave baby once and he was alright with it. Last night took out the remaining febm, decided to gv bb today. If he doesnt like then will probably discard. I personally cant stand the smell..lolz
 
Lil, I had stored lots of ebm but only use once. Mostly used chilled ebm by my hb.

Znatasha, better to leave with either mum or mil than infant care unless you dont have a choice. Maybe let your mum try to take care of bb first, if can't handle, then mil.
 
Znatasha: polyclinic: 1st-2mth hep b2. + rotavirus (option). 3rd mth 5in1 + pneumococcal (option). 4th mth 5in1 dose2. 5mth 5in1 dose3 + pneumococcal dose2. Or 6in1. If at 5mth u choose 5in1, then at 6mth bb has to jab hep d3. 6in1 consist of 5in1 &hep b in 1 jab. Some parents choose 5in1. Cos family or mummy is a hep b carrier. Have to separate the hep b cannot take combine one (6in1). Hope can help u not confuse u. Heehee
 

Koirc, i tried the Manduca a few times but baby cried like crazy when I put him in it...
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I think something wrong with the way I'm using it

Lil, I have given frozen ebm to baby and he has no problems with it.
 

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