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choco: my hubby asked me not to test first scared BFN! I told him it must be it! cos' late 1 week liao! anyway doc ask me to see him if by 24th no menses. So we decided not to do buy test kit.....wait for doc to announce the news..haha
T_mum: I'm not sure if can drink Ginseng water but I'm taking the Pao Sheng Fen, friend ask me to take while trying to conceive good for body &amp; bb. Yesterday I bought a Pregnancy guidebook from MPH $15 a lot of info to read up this weekend!
 


josephine, stretch mum cream doesnt work... i bought a bottle of palmers, use less than 1/4 and give to another mummy... luckily had no stretch marks, some of my friends apply alot still have stretch marks.. so i tink its due to genes and the cream doesnt help


hi choco
Yes, heng 2nd visit can sign package le, so once sign package can see him every 1.5-2 weeks, maximise package :p


hi ivy and mumood
im also super sleepy.. i can even doze off when taking care of no 1, oops... this sleepiness really affecting my ability to play and take care of no 1, no mood


hi veronica
miss 1 week should be bfp le.. congrats!!
 
Hi, back from lunch already. Did not dare to eat too much cos in Batam today. Scardy cat. Hahaha.

Veronica, is you AF usually regular? If regular then maybe have high chance.

Me also sleepy nowadays. Everytine in the late afternoon then feel lize Zzzzzz.....

Mumood, my elder boy already in CC. In future my younger one mst probably look after by my maid. If no choice then put into infant care bah. But hoping the maid can manage. So look after till older abt 18mths then go CC.
 
Hi, Ivy, I have the latest excel list.

Ladies, Please update and REMEMBER TO INSERT NEW ROW if your EDD is in between.
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Roxy, tell me about it. These 2 weeks my ILs have been looking after no. 1. Either my hubby drops her off or I bring her over, I MS until no mood liao. Feel quite guilty towards her sometimes. Quit to be SAHM in Feb, then weaned her off to TTC, end up only look after her for less than 2 months then preggie, then spotting then pass back to ILs. :p

Mumood, I had 4 options but I've more or less decided on option 3. Costwise, option 3 is most costly but I want both no. 1 and no. 2 to have bonding time. And for no. 1, there were a lot of things that ILs did which I can't 'interfere' cos I was FTWM and they looked after her in the day. So, come no. 2, I want to do things my way and start on a clean slate. :p
1) Send no. 1 to full day CC near my house while I look after no. 2 at home alone
2) Send no. 1 to half day CC near my house and Ils to pick her up and looked after for remaining half of the day while I look after no. 2 at home alone
3) Send no. 1 to half day CC near my house, hire maid so that I have an extra pair of hands to help with both no. 1 and no. 2.
4) Stay at ILs place during the day to look after no. 1 (put at CC) and no. 2. This option I'm least keen cos their house is very warm and I have no privacy and inconvenient cos hubby's previous room only has a single room and now like for a storeroom for no. 1's toys and pram etc. :p
 
mumood, roxy high 5, i tink i will get morning sickness soon. But roxy, 2nd baby, more experience is better. I get so much cramps at midnight until i call my gynea on emergency line haha.

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i also have a big problem regarding childcare. currently, no. 1 is with infant care. she'll be "graduating" into tod's class this june. initially, i applied for childcare leave so can take care of her in july but seems like my plan has to change now.

1. either quit and be sahm + place no.1 in cc for half day
2. or place both at cc and continue working
3. move into bigger place and stay with my mum, who can take care of no.1 after her work in the afternoons + hire maid + place baby in infant care and I continue working.

sigh... dunno wat to do. this is the problem when u have minimum family support. my mum doesn't want to quit her job and help me look after the babies. and i dun want maid to handle my children. HOW??????????
 
Tks Lileen and Veronica, i will check before taking the ginseng water. Feel so sleepy everyday until i dunno wat to do, especially in office. Sigh ..

Lileen, yes, better go easy on the batam food .. better to be on the safe side ..
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hi everyone, I'm expecting my 2nd child 1 day before my bday, EDD 13Dec. Gan chiong and went to see the gynae last week at 5 wk 4 day but then I had more and more intense cramping on the right side over these few days so called him up and he told me to go for a scan and I saw the HB with corpus luteum on the right (explains the cramping) but now I am worried as the CRL is abit small at 3mm... sigh being a mummy is a never-ending worry esp since I had 2 miscarriages before.
 
mumood and tub,
I think I will be SAHM after my #2 is born. I am quite particular about the upbringing of my kids and I am reading some psychology and parenting books in nurturing children to develop strong characters, etc. keke.. I am a v KS mum. lol..

Chococat and GG,
my sis doc advice her to remove her fibroid but she is very sad and quite pessimistic about her own fertility..

Josephine, I don't know if I should use stretchmark cream annot cos I actually already have stretchmarks fr my #1. Will it still help for my #2??

Do you mummies's tummy start to swell or bloat at 7+ weeks?
 
andreanie
Sorry to hear your story. Take care &amp; rest well.

Tub
I have the same problem as u. Both my mum and MIL r working. My son is currently in a childcare and my mum helps me take care of him at night. I am not staying with my mum, so I only bring my son back on Fri until Sun night we will send him back to my mum's place. For this #2, mum and MIL already make it clear that they would not be able to help me.My option will be to engage nanny or put #2 into infantcare. I don't think I want a maid cos I don't feel safe putting the bb and maid at home alone. Neither do I want to seperate the siblings in the future. For the past few weeks, I was quite bothered about the childcare part.
I don't think I have the luxury of being an SAHM and my work sometimes require me to work late
 
Ivy.. cramps is ok but if too severe, u did the right ting to call your gynae at midnight, they earn so much from us :p must look out for spotting or staining on panties also k? Wait till u get MS, then really feel super duper terrible. Sometimes i carry my no 1 till I get MS end up i dun carry feel so guilty towards him now...


hi pauline
We same situation.. now i also totally no mood play with DS, just throw him to my hubby and my parents, end up he now looks for hubby and not me.. haiz. No 1 is now looked after by my parents who are both not working, even at nite. We only bring him home on weekends..we plan to put him in cc and hire a maid, so my parents can look after both no 1 and 2. Definitely more assuring n u are right. I will never trust my kids alone with a maid, duno wat they will do to them


hi sleek
Welcome!! And dun worry abt bb, can see hb at 5 weeks sounds wonderful le... my crl only measured 6mm at 6w3d and im also very worried cause bb heartbeat seems too slow and yoke sac seems abit big... but just stay positive and dun worry so much.. if bb is yours, bb is yours
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Roxy, bo ar, i lun till next day then call, but its sunday ehhehe. thanks for the advise, i tink i better dun wear black pantie, so can see spotting easier. Dun worry, once ur MS over, you will be able to play with your No 1 better.

Sleek: what is "HB with corpus luteum on the right (explains the cramping)"

As for all the Stay home or send where, sigh i also headache. Its my 1st child, i totally dunno what to do. My mom dun want to take care, she say she want freedom. My MIL house cannot lah, very cramp and she smoke.

So end up 2 choices, maid or infant care, i dun need i can quit my job. End up i tot infant care... maid dunno will do what to such small infant. Anyway im still thinking.
 
Lileen: My AF usually is 5weeks i.e. 35 days plus minus... doc gave me clomid last month, I also got the 'hunch' this time is BFP... hee hee , symptoms a bit the same as menses coming but this time my breast and nipple very sore last few days, now is sensitive to touch, but test my own patience loh wait till i see gynae, now should be 6 weeks ba. hope can hear bb's hearbeat when i see gynae
 
roxy, thanks
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. the scan was today at 6wk 4day and CRL is only 3mm, that's why i am worried but doc didnt mention anything about it. I feel like asking him about it again though... sigh

ivy, corpus luteum is part of the ovary that is essential for establishing and maintaining pregnancy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_luteum. So if you ovulate on the R side, then the corpus luteum will be on the R side and you may experience more aching on the R side.
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Ainsley, it's quite common to bloat in early pregnancy as the hormones that cause PMS are similar to the ones for pregnancy that's why many PMS symptoms are similar to pregnancy symptoms.
 
mumood,
my older boy will go to N1 next yr so i will have time at home to bond with the new baby, i am alreday a SAHM.
 
Thanks all mummies for sharing your views.

Pauline,
I will update the list after my next Gynae checkup, after she firm up on my EDD. Ok?
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Me currently considering your option 1 if my ILs cannot manage with 2 kids, i may become SAHM.
Option 3 is out for me. If i quit and request to hire maid, think my hubby eyebrows will raise high high up
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Lileen, Pauline &amp; Tub,
How old is your elder child? Mine just reach 1 yr old
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hihi, I'm currently a mechanical engineer. I'm carrying my 2nd child but i dun think i will quit my job now cos my husband always money not enough even he's not giving much money. He 's still paying his sch loan and our flat's comin next yr and housing loan will start.
 
Hello mummies

Any mummies here goin on short trip? I am planning a trip to Genting highlands or Malacca for a short getaway in May. But by then I think, havent pass 1st trimester. Dunno should go anot.
 
Well for me, my mum's taking care my elder son, who is 19 months old. Then my mum will also take care of my 2nd child.
 
tris, headache hor? i've also been vexed by this childcare issue. sigh. we bring our daughter home from childcare at about 530 everyday but she reaches there at 7 cos both me and hubby r teachers. i dunno if i should explore working part time.
 
Jenny,
Currently, both my PILs are taking care my boy. But they are getting old, so now they always easily tired out by my boy.
So worry about their health if they have to handle 2 kids...
 
Veronica, hope to see you permanatly here okie
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mumood, my #1 is abt 27mths already. By then he will be coming to 3.

Tris, yes I may be planning for one maybe in August. Going for a holiday should be ok. Any concerns on your side? I travell to phuket when having my #1 during my 1st trimester also. Even went for outdoor day tour. Must enjoy and relax now when still can. Else later when BB out no more freedom already
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Tub, if finances allows, it is always good to look after your own child when they are younger. Make a lot of differences. If give a chance, I would want to as well.
 
mumood, I know but no choice wat. I got 2 sisters who can help me as they r still schooling. Then I promise my mum i will go home immediately after work everyday to help out. Dun think my mum wants maid also.
 
Jenny,
Same with you. My ILs also don't want maid. Cause they don't know English nor Malay, so they worry cannot communicate. Hence, me need to do some planning on this...

Lileen &amp; Tub,
Yup, if finances allow, we will be the best choice for our kids
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mumood, i agree. tat's why have to solve / come to terms with the finances part. hubby is worried 50% of household income is gone. think really have to deliberate...
 
lileen, your no.1 would be quite "old" by then. mine would only be 24 months. hope she could start communicating by then. now she only "talks" to us through sign language.
 
morning mummies...

Juz wondering...i'm into my 8th week...i am hungry but i can't eat. So i want to know what do all of u normally eat...aiyoh feel sooooo weaklah...want to eat but cannot. And then if i eat...everything comes out...*sigh*
 
Hi haffa,

i totally understand. I am practically hungry at every 2hours interval. But the stomach feels weird if i eat something heavy. So, i tried drinking warm milo instead of taking something really filling ..
 
For those 1st time mommy, you all got concerns over who to take care? FOr me options are:

1) quit and become SAHM (my hubby definitely say no)
2) get a maid to take care during my working hours
3) send to infant care at 7am, pick up 7pm
4) try to find a babysitter at my toa payoh area

1) My hubby sure say both of us must work to pay for the expenses...
2) maid i worry that will abuse the child.
3) Expensive though gov rebate $600, but dunno where is good
4) No one recommend any good babysitter in TPY leh..

what are all your options?
 
ivy my friend try infant care at tpy but all fully booked...
maybe can employ maid n ask mother or inlaw to look after maid n bb...
 
Ivy
U staying at Toa Payoh ah? Me too. Infant care at TPY are My First Skool (previously NTUC) and Kinderland. But like wat josephine said, the infant care are usually full. Gotta queue early.

I am not a 1st time mum but I also will hv childcare problem for this 2nd one. My son has been in the childcare centre since he turned 18 mths. He's now 5 yrs old. For me I will try to find a babysitter. If I really can't maybe I will put in infantcare first (then slowly look for a babysitter) or worst come to worst, employ a maid.
 
Ivy, all options have their pros and cons. Look and measure what is most acceptable for you and try to work on that. For me beign a SAHM is totally not possible since I earn the bulk of our household income and expenses of #1 and #2 will be handled by myself.
Infant care, I would prefer this option most it is one of the most trusted option. However baby will fall sick frequent but that is part and parcel of growing up. However due to my irregular work time, dropping and picking up myself is not possible at all times. Btw TPY should have a number of infant care and should have a few better ones. Scout around first and book early. I booked for my 1st about 6mths before I give birth. The queue will be pretty long for better ones. You dun want to be caught in a situation that you cannot get a good one and simply just choose one that is ava.

Babysitter, its the same as maid. If you cannot be sure that the maid dun abuse your baby, how can you be sure that a total outside will take good care of your baby. There are cases of nanny abusing baby as well. My cousin is one that was fed withn lots of gripe water as it makes her drowsy. So they will sleep at nanny's place and not disturb them. Unless you get a good and trusted recommendation else who knows. Nanny could be stubborn and not follow what you want. Unless if you are not a particular mother. For me, I have ways of wanting to bring up my child. So very hard to tell her at times as they have the thinking that they are older and have seen more babies than you.

If you plan to get a maid, pls do so earlier. Train her and undertsand her character before leaving your baby to her. If dun trust her, change. Dun wait till last minute, not suitabl then die le. Preferably get her in before you deliver, if personality ok than train her to look after baby during your ML. If she has good character and attitute, 4 mths of self supervision and training would be good. Unless she turn bad after joining you lah.

For me, I have tried all options of yours except SAHM. I personally prefer infant care most. But due to my schedule, I have to stay at my mum's place during the weekdays which is not what I want. I have lots of sagas and problem for childcare arrangement for my 1st. So for new mummies, pls plan a concrete plan and dun say wait till then to see. Even for your plans, work out alternatives. If plan A dun work how? Unless you have grandparents that is willing to help you. I was caught in a very bad situation before. Have super bad experience. So now, my choice is send #1 to CC, #2 look after by a maid that I have been monitoring for about 6mths already. So far so good but dun expect too much. The type that many not take extremely good care of your child up to my expection but also will not torture my child (very impt). If maid dun work out, then send #2 to infant care and also get the maid for housework purpose and to pick and drop my kids if I really make it in time. Very demanding on pocket but have no choice. So hope my maid would be good loh. Pray hard.

Mummies, but no matter what your options are, remember dun expect the caregive to teach and guide your child. The real discipline comes from you. You cannot entrust your caregiver to do everything and you just lay back at rest. That is not the responsibilties of begin a parents. Like that then better dun give birth. So SAHM is the best and I respect themDun blame the caregiver for spoiling your child. Blame yoursekf for not taking them in hand. But that is just my own thoughts lah. haha.

Sorry for the long post huh. Never post all my drama childcare stories. Will share if I have the time. Else even longer and will make all the 1st time mummies worry more.


Haffa, try small snacks. I also have this problem at times. But when I can eat, I like pig like that:p

Tub, yah. that was why we plan to have #2 only till not. Actually dun dare to plan for #2 after all my sagas. But strongly feel that 1 is too lonely. So take up the risk again. But this time, plan a lot and expect a hole in my pocket. No choice. Hope they quickly grow up and things would be better.
 
Hi Lileen, thanks for ur advise, very good advise and thanks for sharing your story. Hope everything will turn up well for you.

Its true that getting maid nannys or even infant care really depend on luck, too bad we can't be SAHM, financially really not viable. GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF US.

Tris maybe one day we will meet hehe.
 
Thanks Leen for your comments. I'm thinking of hiring a maid now cos my gal has been diagnosed with sensitive airways and mild brochoasthma. That's the reason why her cought didn't go away after 3 weeks and she keeps having hives and eczema. Currently, I have a PT cleaner but she only comes once a week. If I get her to come more often then I might as well hire a maid cos at least the maid can cook for me and the family. Even with no. 1 in half day CC, intend to start her in Aug, my hands will still be full so need an extra pair of hands. What type of maid do you hire? Ever tried Myanmar maids? Any comments? Which agency did you use? I've been reading up other maid threads but no one wanted to answer my questions there. Sad.
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Hi Pauline

Myanmar maids issue will be language. They oni knw very little english...and most of them are very young...but 1 thing is they are fair (like chinese)...have a fren who hired mynamar, she said ok, but she has her mother at home too...so at least some1 there to guide and teach her while my fren working.

Indo maids also language barrier, but so far my encounter is indo maid picks up fast in language (english &amp; hokkien)..at least for my mum's maid (we employed her 1 yr ago (3rd maid))....She is 1st time to spore and speaks very little english...but after a year, english improved alot and can even speak and understand hokkien (my mum does not speak chinese and english)..her cooking also improved alot..can cook very well now..and she is oni 22yrs old....

Filipino can speak better english and cooking ok (get those experienced 1).....actually filipino can teach kids (our previous one (before this indo), she used to coach my nieee in her k1 &amp; K2 homework.....

Our 1st maid was also indo (2yrs), 2nd maid - filipino (worked 5yrs for us) and current maid indo (2 yrs contract)....

But overall maid hiring, depends on luck leh... guess as employers u also need to be nicer towards them so that they wont feel so stress or uncomfort with u.....
 
I also been drinking milo almost every day. Feels ok until lately start to wonder if that will make bb darker? Looking forward to some advice from mummies to be too...Now I drink horlicks in between to space out..

Wow, looks like so much planning needs to be done one...Never thot about the who take care of bb so far..Seems like infant care is the way out if cannot rely on parents/MILs and cannot be SAHM....Headache..I haven't even sort out confinement how...
 
Thanks, haitong. Which maid agency do you use? Do you pay off the maid loan before they start work with you? I heard some employers don't like to pay off cos if anything happened to the maid, cannot get the $ back. But if don't pay off, anything the maid not happy, just ask to go back to agency so they simply bo chap sometimes.

I see, I thought of Filipino initially but maybe got bad experience with my cousin's Filipino maid. Very yaya and super slow with housechores. As for Indonesian, I scared of their 'black magic'. Heard of some Indo maids who mix 'stuff' into owners food for them to be 'guai guai'. I scared of such things, how to guard the maid all the time like that. Why did your Filipino maid leave? She worked quite long with you right? I thought of Myanmar maid cos I have a PT Myanmar cleaner and she is good. Can speak Mandarin, English and nice temperament, fast worker too. Too bad, she's married here so can't be my maid lar... :p
 
Mummies, I don't know if I start to have pre-birth depression annot but my emotion is quite unstable recently. I even thought of abortion... :`(
 
dear haffa,
I take anti vommiting pills from the gynea,
it works for me.. at least, i can keep down the meal that i ate after the pill..
I snack on meiji plain crackers with oats.. i like that they are in very small pieces. though i take super long to finish one individual pack.. I find that it helps when im hungry but dun feel like eating anything..

last night i went for supper and ate half a bowl of ba chor mee.. came back to sleep.. bad move!! whole night cannot sleep cos too bloated and full! then woke up with a splitting headache.. anyone here get headaches? is it common during pregnancy? cos i usually dont get headaches

i feel bloated and tummy is quite big already.. this is my first pregnancy and i heard you ladies say that 1st one tummy wont get big so soon because have not been stretched yet.. me so worried
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how can my stomach skin stretch till that big to accomodate the baby in the later months?
 



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