(2009/09) September 2009 MTBs


Kris, flower4
Actually I have no idea how much I can pump cos till now I have never tried pumping without latching. Usually I will pump out again after I latch my son.

shell
Mine is PAP childcare centre, Sparkletots. It's just 2 blocks away from my place. It's good to put them in school. Like my gal, she refused to talk till she started school. Talk non stop till I need to ask her to shut up. Haha... Last time still worried that she cannot talk. One bad point is that she kept falling sick. Too many germs in school.

ION Outing @ Swensens

8th December, Tue, 2pm

1.rach
2. Stephie1735 - bringing mum and #1 with baby... mum wants to eat ice-cream.. lol Anyone knows how much per pax?
3. prinzess55
4. kiki
5. jul
6.shelled - Won't be having ice cream buffet. 不要害我!I'm still trying to lose weight!5.
7. mamato6
8. prettymums (tentatively)
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ION Outing @ Swensens

8th December, Tue, 2pm

1.rach
2. Stephie1735 - bringing mum and #1 with baby... mum wants to eat ice-cream.. lol Anyone knows how much per pax?
3. prinzess55
4. kiki
5. jul
6.shelled - Won't be having ice cream buffet. 不要害我!I'm still trying to lose weight!5.
7. mamato6
8. prettymums (tentatively)
9. waiwai
10.
 
<font color="dc143c">tlisa</font>
how many u want?? if we can accumulate to 10, n if i can get it by gathering..then i can pass to u???
now i have 2 orders liaoz...if we really can have more than 10, then i can ask for 20% maybe?
but need to have the orders first then can bargain ma.. :p


<font color="dc143c">kiki</font>
yup.. will be going alone with baby..
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now considering to use Manduca or Pupsik... coz Pupsik she sure KO.. but Manduca to be tried and tested still..hehe...


<font color="dc143c">mama6</font>
hahaha.. dun worry.. black fonts still okay..as long as people can still see and paste its good enough...
hehehe.. :p


<font color="dc143c"><font size="+1">ION Outing @ Swensens </font></font>

<font color="0000ff">8th December, Tue, 2pm </font>
1.rach
2. Stephie1735 - bringing mum and #1 with baby... mum wants to eat ice-cream.. lol Anyone knows how much per pax?
3. prinzess55
4. kiki
5. jul
6.shelled - Won't be having ice cream buffet. 不要害我!I'm still trying to lose weight!5.
7. mamato6
8. prettymums (tentatively)
9. waiwai
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kiki:
my boy's bed time routine...
1. latch both sides 20 min in dim light (on my bed)
2. burp 5 min
3. change diaper (he 99% will poo after a feed), wipe clean and change pyjamas on his cot in his room
4. i say "good nite"
5. 跑人!!! leave his room
6. he "eh eh eh" a few min, but i pretend i hear nothing
7. he k.o.!!!!!
 
shelled:
u went to KittyLab? was it fun? i wanted to go!!!! but no one helped to look after 2 kids and i don't think i will enjoy with them around. imagine carrying #2 while chasing my 15-month old gal around... sian half
 
rach,
is swenson ION spacious enough to push pram inside? i cannot use my pupsilk leh, my gal doesn't like it. i definately need to use my pram. if i have to carry her plus carry diaper bag, i think my arms will break!

waiwai,
your routine also like easy breezy! lucky u!! if my gal "eh eh eh" and i pretend can't hear, soon it will escalate into a big EEEEhhhhhhhhEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! haiz...
 
mamato6js,
u're an experienced mummy leh, sure can cope one lah...me then scared ah! hopefully my gal will cooperate.

mummies,
are there nursing rooms in ION?
 
tlisa> oh no. i think my boy's sleeping time got shifted back too much. now 10+ he still kicking happily in de cot. faint. hope he juz kick n lie dere himself till he sleep n not disturb us ba.

flower4> y not consider de pigeon storage bottles? when i go back wk, i will use those bottles. i bought 3 boxes X 3 bottles each. so total 9 bottles. think each bottle can store 150ml if i din remember wrongly. gonna use those when i go back wk. only excess than will store in milkbag. cos like u say milkbag is too costly for everyday usage. think i need get another pack. cos one day i need abt 6bottles. so maybe i will go buy another box. so got 12 to rotate for 2 days =p

btw it's this bottles: http://www.okmart.com.au/pigeon-bpa-free-breastmilk-storage-bottles.html

i think i paid abt 12bucks+ after 20% discount at robinsons. or is it 15bucks. cant remember how much. but not costly

keke. now i got abt 9L excess FBM storage in freezer liao =p bb wun starve for more days =x

prinzess55> i oso got email.. yeah. finally can make payment. dun like to owe money =x btw, she din say when de yummie tummy coming leh. only say order available =p

prettymums> no penalty. my proj one of de mgr oso tendered after finishing her maternity leave earlier =p

rach> it's ok. de last time i ate hm cooked food was went cl was still ard. nobody cooks at hm =p

wat is DBO??

kiki> ur mil shuld c my boy, cos he's so thin. hubby today ask me isit bb lost weight again -_-"

maybe u shuld leave ur kid to struggle once or twice. mine will auto know nobody gonna entertain him at nite, no matter how he kick or not sleeping, he lies in de cot once it reach 10pm. i dun allow hubby to put him on our bed after 10pm regardless whether he is asleep or awake, only unless when i'm feeding him

shelled> where is dis kittylab thingy? so many pple seems to be going there. heng my kid not daughter =p cos i m not a kitty fan =p

sian. i oso wanna c ur biz stuffs. but i m goin to wk nxt wk. grrrs. tot i going back on de 1st. ended up go on de 7th.

milktrays are good. but how for mums like us who wk to transport milk hm from wk =p i oso thinking whether i shuld get milktrays now. but, forget it la. dunno hwo long more i can tahan with this breastmilk thing now tat i m going back wk. i told my colleague i gonna sacrifice my lunch hr with them to go pump, dey say nvm, juz pump n eat lunch =x than i ask, u think i mgr ah. haha =x

my hubbys' colleague oso say must change bb to pyjamas den dey will know it's nite time n time to sleep. her daughter oso. but for me is diff. i will juz put off light, turn tv to vol2 (cos he sleep same room as me), put him in cot, kiss him, tell him goodnite, cover blanket, put pillow on chest n pat his chest, sayang his bed n go off =p n de funny thing is, if hubby does de same thing, it does not wk!!

coloring hair> after bleaching hair, can we still latch bb on? or must wait few hrs? cos i wanna get hair color before cny!!
 
<font color="0000ff">Pam</font> Yeah, you have really nice and L O N G hair!! so envious!

<font color="0000ff">Rach</font> Thanks for PM. Is the price for the normal or reversible ones?

Sorry can't join you guys at ION swensens as I have to be tour guide to my aunt who's doing a 12hr stopover en route US.

<font color="0000ff">medela storage bottles</font> the ones you use with the pumps, was wondering how long we can use this for; with all the sterilising and freezing and thawing, what's the lifespan of these bottles??
 
kiki
coping is no prob for me. just tat i lazy to bring cos if bring older kids easy la i can eat in peace too haha.. but funny leh u all bring baby i no bring baby to "show off" so see how la but i cant stay long i need to bring #3 for his swimming.

ur gal skinny meh? she looks chubby in pic leh. aiyah gals cannot be too fat lah wait the frame is there oredy next time even lose weight her face will still be round head will still be big. this is my hub theory! thats why he disallow me to make my gal too fat
 
yeah. finally push back bb's sleeping time to 10+pm. attempt to make him go to sleep by himself after 10pm oso succeded since he olways sleeps at 6pm++ de past few wk.
 
<font face="segoe print"><font color="#FF6666">jess..</font>

very sian hor? every night to me is like a battlefield wor.. hoping i'll win in successfully making her go to slp.. haiz... </font>
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="Ff3399">kiki</font>
Of course initially had problems also one lah, remember I used to complain in here that the bugger won't sleep?? But I think cos he realise whether he fuss or not, mommy is not going to come and slowly cajole him, so in the end he just couldn't be bothered to even try anymore.
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<font color="Ff3399">mama to 6Js</font>
Hello?! It's MADAM shelled hor. Not Miss anymore liao. *sob sobs*


<font color="Ff3399">prettymums</font>
How old was your gal when you sent her into childcare? Mine is not exactly talking either, unless you count repetitive bugging of parents as "talking". Everyday it's "read! read! book! please!!" or "eat! mum-mum! biscuit! kew!"
He still speaks in staccato and his words all end with exclamation marks.
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<font color="Ff3399">Waiwai</font>
Hahahah 跑人 some more. Like doing bad things like that.
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I also pretend to be deaf lor. When he's super fussy then I will just check if he needs to burp again, then firmly tell him I have no time leh! I need to go tuck korkor in bed. And because he adores his korkor so much, everything is ok as long as I bring out korkor's name.

Your routine sounds similar to mine, except mine don't pangsai. If he does, it's usually after the 4-5am feed. I hate to change poopy diaper when I'm sleepy lor! Sometimes I sabo my hubs to change instead, but next morning when diaper change, can still see streaks of yellow poo on his ass! Means papa never clean properly lah!

We passed my boys to SIL to babysit. K just sleeps lah, so nothing to be done. But I have to feed him prior to leaving him, then that's it lor. Cos K naps very long in the afternoons.

KittyLab was ok lah. A bit overpriced for such a short experience. We got the badge for finishing within 35mins, cos honestly even if you wanna stay longer also nothing else for you to do once you complete all the tasks. Cannot redo one lor. But I Kitty Fan, so I found it very nice. The set and everything was very very cute!!


<font color="Ff3399">Michelle</font>
My Joshua like Hello Kitty leh. I think bad influence from me.
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<font face="segoe print"><font color="#FF6666">Marie...</font>

How u tahan? my gal will cry n cry de.. i ever tried.. more than half an hour but she still dun wana slp.. just fuss n cry till i carry her then she slp wor..</font>
 
<font face="segoe print"><font color="#FF6666">Pamelia...</font>

ic.. me stay with my mil wor.. i hope i can just ignore her.. thats what i've been doin durin the day when my mil not ard. if i know she is just fussing, i will just leave her there in her bouncer, finish up whatever im doin then attend to her. At night, i cannot just let her cry n cry loudly for too long.. mil will wana come in n kpo de.. which i dun like lo.. haiz.. </font>
 
shelled> hehe. yea. i m glad i followed u, n ignored my little bugger when he fuss in bed after 10pm, now he will go to sleep himself. cos he knows his mummy is gonna ignore him =p

haha. ur boy sounds so cute with the read read book, eat mum mum. haha =p when will my boy do tat =p

lol. ya, must be ur influence tat ur boy likes hello kitty =p

ling> sure will cry initially, cos dey so used to u pacifying them to sleep. but after a few rounds, dey will get used to it. but if u wanna do it, do it soon. cos de later u start, de harder it gets.
 
<font face="segoe print"><font color="#FF6666">milkyway...</font>

icic.. so i suppose most of our babies still cant slp on their own? i really tot i was the only one.. i tot i've spoilt her too much also.. haiz.. </font>
 
Ling it's heartbreaking when they cry but after a few days the crying does get less and less. But when she does fuss or cry, I pick her up once, sometimes she needs to burp one more time or she's pooped and that's pretty much it.
 
<font face="segoe print"><font color="#FF6666">kiki...</font>

same lo.. but my gal cannot slp long when she's on her sides or back.. the longest i tink only half an hour ba.. only on tummy works..

ya lo.. afternoon how to really nap when theres so many other things to do? </font>
 
oh and I say with my in laws too (just 4 more mths)... it's annoying MIL kept going 'aiyoh so poor thing let her cry". Just ignore but I finally showed her two books on how to put baby to sleep. Now, she pretty much leaves me be. Thank goodness.
 
ling
yah lor.. i dont know why mine cannot slp on her own... but i tried the method to let her cry... but 15mins is the max then i will give in lor.. sigh...

michelle
can the pigeon bottles be sterilised and used forever type?? not like the avent storage bottles that can only be used and sterilised 5x max hor?? i think i need storage bottles too when i go back to work... else i might just get more medela bottles for storage lor
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="Ff3399">milkyway</font>
Pigeon storage bottles can use forever and forever. Unless it breaks lah. Which is damn low chance.
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The ones I'm using now are the same ones I used when J was little.

Medela bottles are nicer leh, in terms of shape/size, I feel it's more compact. But hor... The markings fade away after a while, then you would have no idea how much milk is inside. Pigeon bottles don't have printed markings, theirs is embossed. So while it's not as obvious to read, at least you can be assured it will never fade off.
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mamato6js,
haha..yeah, actually my hb also said the same thing! as it is...he is kinda "worried" coz he say bb looks so much like him, nextime grow up dunno whether will be pretty or not :p he said later he got to "rear" her forever! keke..

shelled,
i cannot don't cajole my little princess. nowadays her 'volume' super loud. i think when she really cries that time, down my whole corridor also can hear!

ling,
then u put on tummy lor. somehow my gal can only sleep on tummy AFTER she has fallen asleep. if i just try to put her on tummy she will struggle quite badly and get very agitated! thats why i do very little tummy time and until now my gal's head still quite wobbly.

ok... bedtime for me now.. gd nite mummies! sweet dreams
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shelled
oh okie... thanks... wow lau i wasted money buying the stoopid avent storage bottles the last time lor, nv research then buy. so Pigeon is much better, or mayb medela. the medela bottles' markings will fade? hmm i'm using them now seems ok still... shall see how...
 
<font color="0077aa">Ling</font>
he change pattern tonite .. again... not very cooperativer... still nt asleep yet...
"fighting battle together"... lol


my baby (2mths 3wks) is very fussy these days.. time for feeding but dun want to be fed.. want to lick his "chou chou" aka bean pillow or "drumstick" or anyone's skin or clothing... just dun want teat or nipple!

it not that he is not hungry, he was hungry when he licked/sucked even more but fussed, cried, screamed when we pushed teat or nipple to his mouth.. we sing, hold his hands, rock him, squeak toys, distract him etc.. to finally get him fed with milk!

a. either he is not feeling well (but he play and respond well with us, not listless...)
b. his nose blocked (cleared his nose when i heard him snort or chk his nose each time i see nose wax)
c. guess he is just fussy (dunno why...)

anyone of you have this problem at feeding? just plain plain very tired to manage him feeding.. drain all my energy n "soul"
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="Ff3399">milkyway</font>
Since the Medela bottles' markings are PRINTED on, I suspect surely will fade over time? Especially when we use the bottles quite extensively.
But I do prefer Medela bottles, but KNS, $30+ for 3 if buy from KP leh! So ex!!
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<font color="dc143c">Paige</font>
only normal designs are available.. reversible not available till next yr..
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<font color="dc143c">Ling</font>
same.. my gal needs to be carried to sleep every nite..
today whole day her nap time = 15-30min each time..drove me and mum crazy..
carry till chiu sng!
finally after the last feed...she fell asleep..then rock her in my arms..then put her down to sleep..
her sleeping time is like 11plus... this time she should be able to sleep till 6-7am for feed..then sleep again till 9plus 10am..then she'll be wide awake..
just now i ignored her and tried to let her self entertain on the cot, her cries actually changed..from the weh weh to WEHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! WEEEHHHH!!!!!
like very very very cham like that..face red...tears flowing.. wa lao..
how to let her cry?? sigh....

steph will know.. i've got a super yang oh girl...


<font color="dc143c">milkyway</font>
99% of the time we lose! hahaha...


<font color="dc143c">Stephanie</font>
we're COLLATING orders for DBO ah... never refer to my thread above.. i posted the link.. i've got 2 orders liaoz..
hehehe..wanna join join?? :p


<font color="dc143c">kiki</font>
actually even though my girl sleeps on tummy, she can only do it after she's asleep too..
she wont just go on her tummy on her own and sleep... like i mentioned, she needs to be coaxed to sleep..
so... after she fall asleep then can put on tummy...


<font color="dc143c"><font size="+1">Ah GOO Baby Plush Pad (changing mat</font></font>
MOQ:12
PRICE IS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEHEHEHEHEHE...........
PM me if interested!!!
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milkyway> ya. de pigeon storage bottles can sterilise n sterilise. at least tat is wat i intend to do at least. nv read anywhere tat says cannot. gonna get 12bottles in all for wk. 6 to bring to office for 3pump sessions a day, 6 for bb to bring to dd's hm or infant care for his milk =p

shelled> de thing i like abt de pigeon bottles is got de markings for readings. better den some glass bottles which i got fr de hospital tat got no readings

kiki> haha. my boy now oso cry super loud wor. scared my mum few days ago. she say wah. din know he so fierce one. lol =x

jess> my boy worse. wanna suck everything. give him breast he take any time irregardless hungry or not, only to vomit all over me mins later -_-" dun wan pacifier though.

den olways suck his fingers, if not enugh he stuff de whole fist in. sometimes one not enugh, he takes 2. really faint. den when i cover him with blanket, he suck his blanket, give him bolster, he suck his bolsters. faint.

but i dun haf prob feeding my boy. he juz wanna drink anytime, hungry or not. juz give him milk n he gladly stuff everything in his mouth
 
rach> but 11+pm to 6-7am is like wow. when can my boy do that. zzz

but if he actually do tat, my breast will ba-boom =p
 
I find that the afternoon nap is important, she has a two 30 to 45 minute naps at around 11am and 1pm, she usually falls asleep while being carried or gets sleepy while playing. And I make her take a 1.5 to 2 hour nap in the PM and I tell you it makes getting her to sleep wayyy easier. I also don't want her to sleep that early, by 9.30pm cos once I go back to work, I come home around 7pm, I want at least 2 hours with my baby
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shelled
yah very ex lor... i tot i dont need more bottles but i think if i go back to work, easier to store in bottles than the milktrays..

now got another headache.. my freezer space is running out from my storage lor... think i gotta start feeding her FBM to clear stock.. lol.. but if i feed her FBM then i gotta pump also.. wont it be the same?? cant think now.. think i better go slp
 
rach
my gal slping hrs seems to b quite similar to urs too.. now she can slp at 11+pm, if not 12/1am if she's cranky,then wake up 5/6am, then feed and continue to ko till 9/10am.. hahaha
 
<font color="dc143c">michelle</font>
haha..yah..thats why i just pumped.. but stupid left breast..suddenly haywire.. 5 hours.. 40ml!????!!!????
and my girl not really been drinking..and that has caused serious damage to my supply..
she now drink like every 3-5hours..depending on her mood...
even when my breast engorge.. only 50ml???
siaoz liaoz..


<font color="dc143c">milkyway</font>
thats good... but she day time no sleep i crazy....
 
<font color="9264ff00"> rach girl yang oh</font> - HAhah I both hands both legs raise up and agree her girl is yang oh.. hahahah

Super princessy leh..

I dun wan the diaper one leh.. just want the normal bag organiser.. u know I dun really bring baby bag one.. lol so dun really need the diaper bag organiser.. lol
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="ff3399">milkyway</font>
My freezer also no space liao. And it's not cos I got a lot of stock, it's just that my freezer very small.
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Really need to buy chest freezer sia. But put where is another headache. *sigh*
Wish I can just splash out $2k+ on that very nice compartmentalised Mitsubishi fridge I saw that day. I really super duper love it! But Hubs say too expensive.
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<font color="dc143c">Stephanie</font>
can... normal bag organiser also accepted...
as long as we have 10pcs... we can get 10% discount. wahahha.. :p
 
ION Outing @ Swensens

8th December, Tue, 2pm
1.rach
2. Stephie1735 - bringing mum and #1 with baby... mum wants to eat ice-cream.. lol Anyone knows how much per pax?
3. prinzess55
4. kiki
5. jul
6.shelled - Won't be having ice cream buffet. 不要害我!I'm still trying to lose weight!5.
7. mamato6
8. prettymums (tentatively)
9. waiwai
10. Melissa
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~kiki~
i think there's nursing room in ION, remembered it was v nice when i passed by it.

The nursing room at Orchard Central cannot make it... not even like a proper nursing room, there's no door!

On bedtime routine
waiwai &amp; shelled... ur babies' bedtime routine good leh. *envy*

my boy can't fall asleep on his own, will fuss &amp; make noise... sometimes he will play by himself, after he got bored &amp; no one entertain him, he will start making noise &amp; fuss.. need to carry in arms then he fall asleep and he sleep ard 11pm plus.. i am only free after that. sigh.
if he's not asleep, mil will come kaypo which i dun like oso..


~michelle~
haha.. my boy oso like that, give him my breast &amp; he will take irregardless hungry or not. Now he started sucking his thumb &amp; fist. if i carry him &amp; his mouth is at my arm, he will suckle oso!
 
<font face="tahoma"><font color="Ff3399">Melissa</font>
I think the difference is maybe cos this is not our 1st kid? So maybe we know the "magic" already.
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Wait til you hear about mama to 6Js' baby... her boy's bedtime @ 7pm!! And he actually sleeps!! That one is even more power.
Maybe when we have as many kids as she does, all our kids also sleep early and sleep well. Hurhur.


Okies, me am off to bed!
Long weekend is even more tiring for me than regular weekend sia. I am going to pontang work tonight and just go lie in bed and play DS lite until K wakes up for feed. Toodles everyone!

Oh, please let me know if you girls want me to bring along the goods for show-and-tell? I may need to arrange for 1 of my boys to go somewhere cos they usually go nap at 2pm.
I'd rather only deal with 1 cranky sleep deprived kid than 2. Or is it possible to push back the gathering timing?? Cos I believe most of the older kids' naptimes would be around 2-4pm also lor.
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kiki

yeah i'm gog alone. also super scared coz i've nvr been out alone with him! but i guess there has to be a 1st time, no?

hoho then u better dun bring ur mil along. 'ren bi ren, qi shi ren'
 
bedtime routine

hmm.. after hubs changes diaper, i will :
1) wipe face, neck, arms
2) put ruyi oil
3) pass to hubs

dunno what happens after that. think it involves pacifier, for sure. sometimes can hear some squeals n wails.

as for naps, i usu stuff the pacifier, leave him in his cot, pat his chest, let him struggle n squeal a while.. n carry if it escalates into bawling
 


kiki

i'm bringing sam in my new peg perego! haha

shelled

what's kittylab???

hmm i dun mind seeing at ion or another day - but seriously doubt i will need nursing accesories, since sam is not latching
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