(2009/03) March 2009 MTBs

fenugreek pills from gnc - i also bought 1 bottle and ate a few nia. if anyone wants do let me knw. il bring to the gathering as well. =P
 


whenever time for pumping,i will complain to hb. hb said if really tired then stop pumping lor, but sometimes think of it still wan bb the best. hai...i also dunno wat i wan
 
missy,ya kayle body inside carrier.only half the head comes out. dunno if i wear her correctly. maybe mummy shall show me during the gathering
 
prosper.. if u really dun want.. i can buy to try frm u lahh...coz MIL said my 1st boy also can drink... so i have abt 30 bottles sitting i the freezer now... so if really can help.. maybe gve no 1 to drink also and save $$ on my formula for no 1 ..
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still latching no 2 now...... ur pills how many??
 
missy, i also wan to bf her for long.
one moment i tell hb i wan to bf for long, another moment i said i wan to stop. then again i said go work also can pump....etc... until my hb cannot stand me...said i fickle minded..

i really hate pumping in the middle of nite, when want to go out shopping but cant go out for long..

but again, i still wan the best for her.. see this is wat i means... dunno wat i wan
 
prosper.. if u really dun want.. i can buy to try frm u lahh...coz MIL said my 1st boy also can drink... so i have abt 30 bottles sitting i the freezer now... so if really can help.. maybe gve no 1 to drink also and save $$ on my formula for no 1 ..
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still latching no 2 now...... ur pills how many??
 
anyways to stop milk flow? i dun wan to take pill to stop. other than use cold cabbage,wat else huh.. i alr tried to reduce these 2wk but milk still alot
 
prosper.. really dun want to continue ahhh\


btw mummies.. i have a request.. can i take pictures will all ur babies one by one .. for memories lah then put up in FB
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prosper,

You know what? You are not alone. I hate hate hate pumping too. I needed between 45 to 60mins each time I pumped. Which is why I stopped even though everyone advised me to persist because pumping will help to increase ms. This doesn't mean that I don't love my baby. In the end I found a perfect solution which is to BF exclusively. I will also maintain enough emergency supplies in the event that I want to go out without baby. In this way, I hardly need to pump, can save so much more time to bond with baby and still give the best I can to my baby.

Having ample milk supply is a blessing, even though it comes with its fair share of difficulties. Don't curse it; just find a way to work around it. Hope this helps.
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Hey Ida, thanks for offering to pick up the cream from Idlecat for me, much much thanks! Idlecat, just PM me your acct & i can transfer to u later yeah.

Ann, thanks for the 4 packs, i'll pick up fm u at the gathering.

Missy, i think rice is easier to eat, "scoop & chomp". Noodles still have to "pull, tidy onto spoon, then can chomp"~> a bit slower kekee

Alfafa, how come ur pumping is 45mins? i think 15-30mins is max. Turn on a higher power on the pump can shorten the time maybe? Shouldn't be so long, will get tired...

Prosper, try to go a bit longer? Just tell urself, 1 day at a time ok, dont' think so far ahead, "just 1 more pump, just 1 more time"... and hey, who knows...

But i remember Asura telling me, taking "yang2 sheng3 xu3" will help to stop...

To lengthen shopping or activity time outside, i find the only way is to latch baby. Be it using a cover or running off to the nursing room, even if baby doesn't empty the breast totally and manage to just suckle 15mins or relieve the pressure, that'll just be good enough to buy you some more time, so practice w baby maybe...

In a way, i also think breastfeeding means a certain "loss of freedom". Like what Prosper say, every 3-4 hours need to latch or pump, it's stuck either to the baby or the machine. In the middle of the night when our husbands and the world is asleep, we are alone latching/pumping, else the engorgement/blocked ducts will come or we'll be "punished" with engorgement pains & high fevers. Gone are the days of 8 hours straight stretch of sleep. I also wondered why nature designed breastfeeding to be like that. To make sure we dont get lazy and sleep/shop too much? To make sure that we learn to pay attention to our babies first before ourselves? Hehehee...

But eventually, it's a conscious choice that all of us who've attempted to breastfeed have already made as a first step as new mothers. Maybe just let nature take its course...go on until the supply ends....
 
starflower.. no probs... so the cream n the carrier i bring for u..

maybe wat u said is true.. breastfeeding is the best as pros but has it cons too esp engorgement...
 
<font color="119911">prosper,
the way i stop pumpin for my #1 is, i pump lesser time (from 30mins to 20mins) n at longer interval (6hrs to 7hrs n slowly increse), if drag too long will have engorgement, tis will reduce the bm ss, will b able to stop fully in a mth to 2.</font>
 
Kat,

regarding your question about baby struggling and crying at breast while bf.

To reduce this you have to check and ensure bb's diapers are not due to change before you feed

check if your feeding position is correct.

if u feed in aircon room, check if bb is too cold.. feel her feet and hands .. ensure she is kept warm. and wear a cap for her.. cos bb lose a lot of heat from their head.

cehck if ur breasts are engorged, means too hard and bb suckle very hard but milk not coming out as fast as bb wants.

my first attempt.. breast are like rock buns.. brianne suckled an hour each time for 4 feeds till her gums swell then i went to ParentCraft to seek help.

must massage breast to encourage flow, its painful but it does helps..

If u really keen on BF, i suggest you go seek help from lactation specalist.
 
ida..

think dun use the glass bottles.. this yr.. i was told that there is a case that bb swallow glass fragment from disposable glass bottles. these disposable glass bottles are those that hospitals were given samples by FM Manufacturers.

they are not meant to be re-used. u need to be careful.. even if urs are milk bottles.. watch out for cracks.

i mentioned to mrs wong that i wanna get bottle caps for the sample milk bottles..she discourage me and told me about this case. if its metal case.. look out for rusts..
 
Hi Starflower,

Np, no need to thank me lah...you buying from me one leh :> . Will pass to you at the gathering then.

Re: Diapers
Dryper is better than pet pet i felt. Just bought a pack of Pureen Dry for day usage and will feedback once tried. To date, the best I felt is still Mamy Poko for absorbancy.
 
prosper, i'm having the same problem n thots like you...
Feel that all the pumping, engorgement, really makes me no life... 2 months into ML n it's like everyday doing the same stuffs... Pumping n pumping..
Wanna brings the kids out over the weekends, also need to take note of timing... Miss one pump, too engored, lose all moods to shop or continue wat we are doing... Really sianz..
 
moomooland, you got pm.. r u going for the outing? i may wan to get the milk bags from you..

wah.. seems the thread is moving so fast and I got a hard time catching up.... I am preparing to go back to work next wk and I am super sad.. time flies so fast and now it's time for me to return back.. now starting to worry if maid can handle my bb when i return back to work...

looking forward to meet u all this friday..

misscandy, when do i need to confirm with you on the food?? I am still waiting for my agent to confrim the date to fetch my new maid.. hope not on friday thou
 
back to reply sunday's post as i was at my uncle's place using pc for awhile then i went to cut mother's day cake liao..haha

daphne
ya im looking for a gd n comfy one. was actually planning to settle for a connecta since the seller - hy told me connecta and pikkolo have not much differences except for the 2 extra positionings and the foam cushions.
i was told beco makes her backaches but i guess that is individuals la. haha. glad that the Y insert can be taken out. will have to go down to the seller's place to try out. i guess $130 is a really a good deal lor. and guess what, the seller have 11 or more carriers. hahaha.

sassybaby
wow ur beco is so beautiful !!!

kome
bring ur new beco to gathering along k..

pups
thanks, im now feeling better after taking the flu medicine and Gui Ling Gao from the balestier. sore throat also better liao. phew. will kiv my situation if by thur still not 100% maybe i cant go gathering le? but meanwhile i will cross my fingers and drink more water.!
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vernice
haha bo bian what to do, since the sch fees is already paid. don wan go oso cannot. esp im nw staying with my parents no Pontang.. on mon n wed where i will be having night classes will be a bit more busy so the moment i wk up will try bath tristan asap then feed him make him go back slp then i go bath n prepare. then later on pump my milk 1 time = 125ml approx for 1 feed. then after that will try latch him on a few times more then my mommy home after work anyhow cook my dinner for me to eat and i latch him on right after my dinner n i rush off in dad's cab to sch.. and also rush home after sch in dad's cab and be ready to latch him on again..
hahahah paiseh ended up tell u my mon n wed routine. alamak going to have test n project i donno how to allocate time out for it man. zzz

ann
i got ur email..
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Irene,

Yah... i tried the Powertap and liked it.. quite good... esp when i would be in US and dont have the luxury of going for spas and massages.. ekeke.. my hb say i waste money and say i shouldnt bring it over cos very heavy but actually only 2.9 kg.. i say him lor.. the other time say come back SG would massage for me, in the end, never massage for me.. now i go US for 3 mths, dont think he would massage for me lor.. xin you yu er li bu zhu
 
prosper,

I used to have a very bad problem with oversupply. Breast always leaking. After bb latch, my breasts are usually full.. then bb always only latch on one side.. leaving the other side full and engorged. So irritating cos i always got to pump after bb latch.

What i did was to slowly cut the pumping time per session and sometimes i ren and not pump even if engorged. Works for me somewhat... cos now i only need to pump once a day in addition to latching exclusively. But still leaking.. sian.. I think if got supply, should continue bfing until 6 mths old.. better for bb.

Food wise... yang sheng xu and liver and dang gui would reduce BM.. u can try eating some. My grandma was the one who said that in the olden times when no medication, they eat yang sheng xu to reduce the milk supply.
 
Would MIA from this forum for a while... Actually at terminal 3 now waiting for boarding.. hee hee..
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So irritating, i reserved a bassinet seat when i booked my ticket. Even emailed the travel agent to check. Then i come here today, they told me that seat never reserved for me!!! Luckily, not many travellers today, they give me one row to myself for my flight to HK.
got to go~!
 
Oh yeah prosper, i hope u're also not pumping at night. It's alright to miss 1 pump if you're not engorged so u can catch some sleep. So say pump once at 12midnight, then the next one at 6am or earlier after feeding baby, so least u can have a stretch of 5-6 hour sleep. But of course, provided u're not too engorged..dont want to get a fever...
 
Something i came up w while pumping, dedicated to all of us this morning :p

Before being mummy
our figures were sexy
What is pumping? What is latching?
Who knows! Who cares! Who is minding!

Here comes baby
Always hungry
Feeding, sleeping, bathing, playing
We "yao", we coo, carry till backs aching

We're like moo moo cows
When baby cries "Now!"
Who understands our heartache
Have milk, no milk also headache

Yao lan also try, Pacifier too
All sorts of "toys", who's distracting who?
But you're a part of me and i'm a part of you
No matter what happens, i still love you.

[snigger snigger, not bad for inspiration at a 6am pump hey, hehee so bo liao :pP ]
 
oh ya .. i wan ask a qns abt washing teats. coz nw then really start bottle feeding tristan when i goes night class..

how u all wash the teats ah? use the brush? or use fingers to rub? kekes.. thx ah :p
 
lenny... izit.. so far so good lah.. definitely will watch out for that-

straflower.. eh not bad inspiration came wee hours of the morning

Asura - take care yeahh

queenie.. i wash with the small bottle brush lah the teats... sometimes with fingers if never use the detergent....
 
starflower, good job! My thoughts exactly! Haha.

Prosper, must really be sure of what u want ah,, otherwise later regret wo.. U try to delay pumping interval and when u pump, the idea is to pump slightly to relieve engorgement, and leave as much milk inside as possible. Then slowly the body will reabsorb back the milk. I also don't want to pump at work so will be stopping day latches in ard 2wks time.. When I have Tbf her for 3mth. Haha. But night I still wanna latch though, I love the convenience and bonding.

AsUra, take care! Drop us a note when u n bb are settled in!
 
Wow starflower, well well said...

haha, whenever i say i want to stop pumping, i will reconsider again, but when i say i wan to bf her for long, i will say i wan to stop bf..

LIke wat u all said, we just dun like to sit there to pump for 30mins or so..

I just found a way out: play sudoku at the same time pumping.. at least it kills time. I wont feel alone

Thanks mummy here. I will continue to bf her.. (haha who knows next moment i say i wan to stop)
 
prosper
hang on there! continue to bf! i want to stop pumping bcos my ss is low, and everytime pump only around 100ml(8 hourly), so i find tiring and irritating... but if i have the ss like yours, i'll sure endure even though i know pumping is really tiring... now even when i say i want to stop, i am still pumping 3x a day for the miserable 300ml a day for my little darling. can't bear to just stop like that. afraid that i will feel guilty later on...

starflower
wow, not bad ah! and really reflects our thoughts at this moment...
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sassybaby
i read from lycee's website, the kids are taught English and French... is there a lycee beside ur place? i thought there's only one campus in SG, which is along AMK, near Serangoon North, very near ur place also...
 
yang sheng xu is very liang. I use to take it when feel heaty.

Nowaday I only pump when engorged. Have been latching most of the time. Last time will latch on the go when outside; as long as got chair will latch under a big black knitted shawl but will avoid inside restaurants as afraid get chase out. HaHa...

But nowaday I bottle-feed when outside as MS low and latching take too long. Hmm...
 
Morning Mummies ! I had a bad night... run to the toilet almost every hr...bad diarrhoea... so in the morning..evacuate my boy to my in law's place...feels quite sad staring at his empty bed..but think I can't care for him much if he stays around with me...with my hrly toilet visiting...
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starflower:

well written... ! esp the last part...no matter what happens we will still love them...
 
<font color="0000ff">Hi Ida,</font>
Thanks for helping. I've PM you how to meet.

<font color="0000ff">Hi Starflower,</font>
I've PM you my bank a/c no. Thanks.

<font color="0000ff">Hi prosper,</font>
Plse confirm whether you still want the Pigeon milkbag? Ida can help to pass it to you.
 
jean,

hang in there.. don't give up.. relax and dun get stressed up.. your milk supply will be better.

my left side is still very little.. so when i feed, i know brianne is not getting enough so she screams a lot.. but i continue to latch her on to get the hindmilk as my left side flow is slower. heart pain but no choice.

if i don't do it, my left side supply will stop
 
daphne Which area? I think my parents have condo to rent while looking for tenant.

jtho My trip is confirmed!! Mid June, so excited. Will be quick trip as he can't take too much leave.

For the BECO demo, I am not sure if supplier is still coming as one order dropped out, only 2 confirmed orders. Although quite a few of you have said you are interested to see the demo, no one has PMed me which styles you would like to see. So do PM me if are still keen on ordering/demo so I can let supplier know the interest level.

Oh and so happy my Goon shipment arrived. The swim pants look cute, hope they work... Am definitely sticking to Mamy Poko and Goon for my girl. She was having liquid poo yesterday and both caught every single drop. No leak at all. We were so happy haha
 


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<u><font color="0000ff">Want To Sell</font></u>
Sorry to interrupt... as I'm unable to start a thread in WTS corner...
I'm trying to clear some of the things (mostly bought on impulse) but now not going to use.
Plse PM me if you are interested.

<u>New Items</u>

a) Medela PureLan 100, 39.3ml, EXP: 08-2011,
(Sales $16:41 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $14 for 1 tube, $25 for 2 tubes</font>)
<font color="ff0000">===> reserved by starflower</font>

b) Medela Contact Nipple Shields
(UP $17.20 for 2 pieces, <font color="0000ff">Offer $7 for 1 piece only</font>)

c) Pigeon Milk Bag, for 160ml, 20 pieces/box
(UP $17.20 , Sales $13.50 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $25 for 2 boxes</font>)
<font color="ff0000">===> reserved by prosper</font>

d) Pigeon Digital Thermometer, soft tip, with Fever Alarm, 1/100 display
(Sales $9.90 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $8</font>)
<font color="ff0000">===> reserved by idaarshad</font>

e) Pigeon Baby Waterproof Sheet for diaper change, with 100% cotton surface
(UP $25.90 , Sales $18.90 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $15</font>)

f) Pigeon Baby Nose Cleaner (with suction tube)
(UP $6.90 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $5</font>)

g) NUK Orthidontic Vented Teat Anti-Colic (LATEX) for 0-6 months Medium feed hole (2 pieces)
(UP $5.10 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $4</font>)

<u>Not Used Items</u>

h) Kiddopotamus Dreamsie Microfleece Sleeper (Washed once but never use before)
(UP: $32.90 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $25</font>)

i) NUK Premium (for wide-neck bottle) Latex Teats (2 pieces) for 0-6 months (box open but never use before)
(UP $8.70 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $6</font>)

<u>Pre-Loved</u>

j) Kiddopotamus SwaddleMe Adjustable Infant Wrap (Used once only)
(UP: $29.50 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $15</font>)

k) Medela Maternity Suppor Belt, colour: white, Size: S (for Hip size 31-34 inch)
(UP $35.90 , <font color="0000ff">Offer $10</font>)

Prefer mummies stay in Punggol/SengKang/Hougang areas. Thank You
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