(2008/12) December 2008 MTBs


Juz, please do consider carefully. I was also in a hash that time, seeking contacts from lawyers when i found that i got betrayed.

Perhaps u can consider seeing help from counsellor as in what i'm doing now. Be it a social worker or a professional paid marriage counsellor, perhaps it may do some help in your marriage. Frankly speaking, i'm also feeling at a lost

But then for the sake of baby, i willing to give this marriage a chance again. Baby needs a complete family...

I sincerely hope that u can consider seeking help from counsellors. Sometimes its thru 3rd party that it may shed some lights into us, helping us to solve problems, resolve conflicts. Let me know if u wish to have some counsellors contacts.
 
so sorry for not replying..haha. Busy updating my iPhone apps last nite..hehe

Jo, spree closing tmr at 23.59pm so that I can order by sunday..
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frankly, i hv not even selected wat i want. If got a choice, i will take all! Haha

Last nite, Zach slept close to daddy so not enuf space for him to move abt..his daddy complained this morning that Zach kept kicking him, like asking him to move away..haha. He's been turning 360deg now but still dun wanna flip but when we hide inside the room and he is outside on his mat, he will flip on his own. Daddy say we are a distraction to him.. :s
 
Jowin, thanks for the link.

Any babies here sleep on pillow? If i put my gal on pillow, she will stay put in the same position til morning. If no pillow, she will turn 360 degrees too.
 
Gathering
Tentative Date - 20 June 2009 (Sat)
Time - from 11am onwards till 5/6pm
Venue - Corporation Road

Attendance
1. Emeraldbride - Self, Hb & BB?
2. Bubblepearl - self, bb, hb(3 pax)
3. Rachel - Self & bb
4. Ikeike - self, bb & hb

Tentative
1. Fabbie

Juz
So sorry to hear that your situation did not improve after Baby A. Divorce will be very tough on you mentally for the next coming months but if that would bring you more joy in life, then go for it. No one deserve to live in misery due to another's incompetency. Do not give up Baby A. as he will need you more than anything esp. when you know your current hb will not take care of him properly. Baby A. did not choose to come into this world but you made the decision to have him so you'll have to be brave to take up the challenge of raising him. If a man loves you from his heart, he will accept both you and Baby A. Take heart and stay positive for yourself and Baby A ok
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Gathering
Tentative Date - 20 June 2009 (Sat)
Time - from 11am onwards till 5/6pm
Venue - Corporation Road

Attendance
1. Emeraldbride - Self, Hb & BB?
2. Bubblepearl - self, bb, hb(3 pax)
3. Rachel - Self & bb
4. Ikeike - self, bb & hb
5. 2ndbb - self, bb

Tentative
1. Fabbie
 
2nd bb
ya. hehe. i was surprised when i receive d invitation. =)

Gathering
Tentative Date - 20 June 2009 (Sat)
Time - from 11am onwards till 5/6pm
Venue - Corporation Road

Attendance
1. Emeraldbride - Self, Hb & BB?
2. Bubblepearl - self, bb, hb(3 pax)
3. Rachel - Self & bb
4. Ikeike - self, bb & hb
5. 2ndbb - self, bb

Tentative
1. Fabbie
2. iemik0
 
How often shuld we change bb's bottle? Zach is using BPA-free bottle, shuld i still change every 3mths?? If yes, then will go Metro to get soem bottles..haha

2ndbb, I oso wanted to let Zach sleep on pillow cos he tends to cough and choke on himself if he lie flat on the bed. But he never like sleeping on pillow one leh.. my pillow he wants, his own small pillow, he will shake his head till his head is off the pillow. Super duper cheeky
 
yeah, he is a very funny boy! Everytime like to shake his head left right left right before he sleep. I tried myself, i get so giddy..so i tot mabbe he wants to make himself giddy so tat he can sleep better?? Hahaha.. silly baby.
 
Juz,

Sorry if I misunderstood ur previous posts. Thought ur hubby is like that cause he lost his job. Actually my hubby also nothing much better than ur hubby. He hardly pay for household or bb expenses. But never once, I think of divorce cause wat he fall short of financially, he make up with love and care for my bb n me. He is my servant or male maid at house. Happily fetching me drink or doing things for me. Guess we reverse gender role lor. I bring home the bread, he take care of the household chores.

So if ur hubby love n care for u, I will ask u to close 1 eye on his financial inability, just like me. But he BEAT u. I cant tahan any guy who beat woman. U should not allow urself to be beaten anymore. Go ahead n leave him if he still beat u cause u certainly deserve some1 better.

But like Luthadel say, dun leave ur bb behind. Yes, I agree it is tough to be a divorcee with a bb tagging along n u have harder time finding another guy. But can u bear to see ur bb growing up with ur hubby? I know maybe ur MIL or SIL can take care of ur bb, but still no 1 can replace the position of U, his mother.

My mother divorce my father when I am 4 n my bro is 2. She took up 2 jobs to bring us up. She is not educated at all yet she can do it. So I have confidence u can do it better. Also, a guy who love u will accept u wholeheartedly. Just like my stepfather, he is good to me n my bro. Bring us go different places when we are young. They get together when I am about 10 but they never get married cause worried about me and my bro feelings but inside my heart, he is my father.

Asking u not to divorce or leave ur son behind, all these are our opinions based on our own beliefs and feelings. If u really dun have much feeling towards ur son, wun miss him much or regret leaving him behind, no one here can stone u. We are just trying to let u know the consequences so that u wun regret in future. But eventually this is UR choice though we will feel sad for u n ur son.

Sorry to talk so much. Maybe u think I am kaypoh. I am just feeling very sad that u still want to leave ur son behind after being with him for 5 months. Hope u dun mind me being so frank. Sorry if I hurt ur feeling.
 
Loveangle, zachmommy, rachel, thank you so much, so reasssuring and this really make my day. my princess is now 7kg. guess she's heavy. ok shall wait.

thx Tamms, shall go find out.

Snowger, ha ha ha. at my age to have my bb princess is already a miracle after not having a bb after so many years. Low low chance and 1% chance Hopefully, have faith and be bless with another soon. Shall try weekend. Hee... Oh, using MP and it's super duper GREAT for a diaper.

LuthAdel, would like to be part of gathering on 20 Jun. 3 px (Hb, bb & Me)
 
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Bbpearl fifi's website i can see leh.. but Kath is the items jumpers and the stuffs are cheaper than outside mah? cus i didnt do those research hahah

bbpearl So how? found ya car seat?! my hub say want to get a new car seat.cus he abit scare of taking 2nd hand liao. hehehe

kath btw. if buy gap. how is the rate count ah? is 9.99 x ??? = ? how to count? thanks thanks
 
i got the Tropical Around We Go Activity Station.. not shown in her website.. is cheaper from Kiddy Palace leh by quite alot lar..

fabbie, i dunno the exchange rate yet leh.. once place order and the payment reflected on my card onie i will noe wat is the rate..
 
Jes...really? Your PD said babies at 5 month old should weight 8kgs? My Jordan is only 6.8kg! I'm so worried...all other babies are heavier than him...His tummy like so flat even after feed....That's the thing abt some doctors i guess...They always tell u as long as the baby puts on weight and is healthy & active, then we should not worry abt the weight...but then how not to worry? It could mean my bb is underfed le...

No, Jordan is on both bm and fm...i dun hv much milk supply so i supplement it with fm...

Zachmommy, bb zach is so cute! Coincidentally, Jordan shakes his head violently left right left right just before sleep too! So funny and so cute hor!

I change Jordan's bottles every 3 months as we were using Avent non-BPA free so i changed it to BFree Plus bottles which are BPA free..washing is seriously a bottle but i noticed that he drinks much faster with the BFree bottles leh....Avent teats was too hard...Bfree teats are very soft which resembles nipples more..

Juz, am so sorry to hear ur story..i think a guy should not hv resorted to violence no matter what...however i'm also sad that u said u dun wan custody of the bb, esp when u know that ur hb will not do a good job taking care of him...for his safety and well-being i seriously think u shd keep bb by ur side cos to a baby nothing in this world is more important than a mommy...everytime i think of my bb being kept in the special care nursery when he was just born i'm damn heartpain...

I'm also worried abt u getting post-natal depression...are u feeling ok lately? To be honest i used to suffer from post-natal blues so i ustd how it feels not to be "connected' to ur own baby...all i wanted to do at that time was to give my bb away so i didnt have to face him...however i am very grateful to my supporting hb as he quietly took after bb Jordan without complaining and was very understanding...In the end it finally dawned on me that it is my lifetime duty to take care of him since i hv given birth to him and there is no way i can run away from it...Besides, it killed me whenever i saw my mentally and physically drained hb...So i'm proud to say that i recovered from my PNB overnight...cos apart from the hormonal changed in our bodies, its our thinking that counts...so juz, try to think more positively...u need to set ur mind free from the grievances and try to be forgiving....if there is no way u could forgive him, then at least try to forget wad he has done..getting some marital counselling might be a good idea..
 
Juz, r u ok now? Your hubby is really a stupid idiot! How can he beat you up!? Threaten to call the police if he beat you up again. I agree with YPG and Luthadel, if a man loves you wholeheartedly, he will accept you and your baby. I was dump by My Ex of 4 yrs who left me for a single mother lor!!! Aaargh.. Dun give up on Baby A hao bu hao? He really needs you.
 
Morning Ladies..

Haiyah.. down with flu... bad bad.. today Friday some more.. haiyah.

Iris.. congrats congrtas..

Sam
You are great!.. bring bb to movie.
Me also wanted to watch Xman, but cant find the time to go. Ever think to bring bb to the cinema, but scared he cry, me and hb wont enjoy the movie.
Maybe must like fabbie.. watch DVD @ home...

Juz,
I agree with Iemiko, nowadays not easy to find good guys. There is no perfect husband in the world, as long as you can get along and "qian jiu" each other is consider good already. ( My own opion only )

Have a good Friday gals...

Snowger,
I think you will kill me already, havent find time to collect the Enfalac.. will sms you today.. sorry sorry...
 
Juz, so sorry to hear tat.
I totally agree with lavendary. I have a friend in almost similar siutation. She contacted MCYS (Main no. 62589595) and they assigned her and hubby a marriage counsellor. Each trip cost $20 only. And she really learnt much in developing herself as a person not just learning about managing a marriage. Altho she still in the midst of saving her marriage, she has emerged a stronger woman.

The 'D' should be the final straw. If really need help, contact Legal Aid as Sam advises.

Love your son for he needs you. I just heard from another girlfriend who's now based in Germany, her baby born 5 days before mine died recently. Tho i didn't see her and her bb son since birth, i can feel her pain and really so grateful tat my bb is strong and healthy.
 
rachel
I think i got post natal depression. but im the opp of you. im like totally dun wan anyone to touch my baby de.. worried this and that.. infact till now i have also. worst is i will think what if fall.. or cant breathe whats her action like. blah blah blah.. and if she's gone. i think i also wont able to live in this world liao. she's now like my Heart sia. once stop. im gone liao.. Im still trying to overcome it.

Anyway.. Juz.. what happen wor?! its quite impt with bb with daddy and mummy u know?! me and my hub sometimes quarrel.. and we do have very jialet kind too. like fight here and there.. we always did say like break break break. but at the end of the day. we didn't want to. cus of our child. since we cant break up. so why not carry on with our life and be happy can le! perhaps try another baby! Hahahhahhaa but overall now. im still happy. my hub still dote me. but not as much as i want. im still digging him his attention and dote. Hehehe
 
Yes juz.. A needs you alot. REally! dun have ya hubbie NVM lar.. you have A! who is with you. standing beside you! =) please dun think he's a burden okai. He will help you next time when he grow bigger.. Like i always tell myself. if really one day. really "D" i also wont give up my child cus i know she needs me more than her dad. cus its we woman who give birth!
 
Izu, mine is also thru MCYS. But i wasn't charge at all. However the counsellor is just social worker, and uhh, she really not so professional too. Alot of times she also got speechless and at a lost whenever i ask her questions...

Maybe i should contain MCYS again and ask for a marriage counsellor or perhaps a psychologist.
 
Hmm fabbie...got post natal depression like that one meh? hehehe....well im sure urs is isn't serious so fret not! I'm long recovered liao lor..
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Hey Esther, are u on MC today? It would be good to take a day off to rest, since today Friday hehehe..got longer weekend... :p

Fabbie, i totally agree with u....since Jordan was born, my hb and i had lots of arguements too..being firstime parents both of us had no clue how raising a bb is like...all we depended was thru other ppl's experience and thru reading on internet...We oways hv arguments in how we wanna bring him up..one good example will be whether or not to give him pacifier...and every other small little thing...but at the end of the day, my hb still dotes on me alot and whatever arguments we had was all becos we love Jordan and we want the best for him....and i know i will forever be grateful to him for what he has done when i had depression...

Juz, having a bb can bring both joy and tremendous stress to every family...so its really up to u whether or not to get a divorce...we outsiders have no say in anything but all we can do is to advise and to give u some support...no doubt "leaving" is the easiest way out but i hope u will keep bb A with u...i'm sure u can find a good man who doesn't mind bb A....
 
Rahcel...
No leh today no MC. MC again later kena sack haha...some more today Friday..
Office busy leh... so thinking no MC.
So drink more water and Vit C lo.. *sob sob*
How I wish can stay @ home haha....
 
rachel
i duno leh. haha is this post natal depression anot. haha mine is totally protect my gal de. LOL funny
 
Congrats Iris!! wow U r fast!

I nightmare with one notti Summer. wont thinkin of no 2 yet.. we shall see how it goes first..

Snowger,
y u say use umbrella? shld be put on raincoat mah! wahaha..

Daddy not doin his job:
Fabbie/ meridthy, sama sama la.. Summer always taken care by me & maid at home. daddy only play w her when she's ina gd mood. when she becomes crancky pass back to me. so sian! I always tell him his biggest contribution to parenthood is tat 1 tiny sperm!!

Juz,
sry to hear abt ur situation, be strong ya!
 
Poor esther drink more water yar...n try to rest more during the weekend!

Hehe fabbie.. u r cute! I doubt u hv any depression lar! But its a great thing that u wanna protect ur bb gal
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Kath - My gal also every nite kick her daddy. Every time i put her in 12 o clock position, she sure sleep until 2 o clock position with her face touching my pillow. I hv to shift her back to 12 o clock position. Even put sleep positioner, but she still able to kick until her right leg is on top of the sleep positioner. -_-" Previously i let her sleep on pillow, she'll be able to sleep at 12 o clock position. But ever since she started to pull out her pillow and put on her face, i didn't let her sleep on pillow le. She also hv to sleep with the lights off. If not, she'll keep fidgeting, cover her eyes with her hand or my pillow. -_-"

Fabbie - I also hv this kind of thoughts as u. Sometimes i think if something happens to my gal, i'll b very very sad de. I thought i'm the only one with this kind of thinking.. hehe.. But i never thought this is post natal depression leh.

Later gonna bring my gal to see PD le. She's having running nose since tuesday. Just now cry until 2 long streaks of bi ti come out fr her nose. I also having flu now. Yesterday already feeling my throat very dry. Keep drinking water but still very dry. This morning woke up with sore throat. Took strepsils, slightly better le. But got yellow mucous.. Later gotta see doc after sending my gal to see PD.
 
2nd Baby,

I vote for jumperoo!!! My gal totally love it. She will keep on jumping n jumping n smiling at the same time. I guess Lavendery is shocked to see her jumping so high up, right. I got it 2nd hand here. So u may want to try here if u dun want to spend a bomb on that.

But I think jumperoo can only take up to 11 or 13kg. Cant remember, age catching up. Me is 32 this year liao. So if ur bb is on the heavy side, may not use jumperoo for long.

Rachel,

My bb also in KKH special care nursery due to her breathing problem. Ur bb is there because of wat? How she coping now? My bb still got a bit of heavy breathing at night n I am bringing her to see Yuguo, chinese doctor during school holidays when I got more time. Alot of parents say Yuguo is good. Anyone of u see him b4?

Ladies,

After cooling down, I feel that perhaps Juz has her own priority n we might be stressing her more by telling her not to give up on bb A. Sorry, Juz. Hope din make u feel worse by giving u suggestion based on my own beliefs and feeling. But if u really need help, let us know. Ok, going off liao. I seldom got the opportunity to go home at 1.30pm. So better seek this chance. Bye bye, ladies!
 
ypg...My bb Jordan was sent to KKH SCN becos he was grunting aft 1 feed and they suspected that he could hv some infection..however after running many blood tests and x-rays on his they didn't manage to find any reason that caused the grunting...My poor bb was kept there for 5 days for nothing...poor little feet and hand ganna pricked for so many times for blood tests..so heartpain...
 
Hello ladies...
Been away for 3 days and its tough trying to catch up on the thread but somehow managed to scan thru. *phew*

Whole family was down with stomach flu, i was throwing up (felt like 1st trimester all over again), Hubby was having diarrhoea and Bb was having fever. My mom's maid also kenna... quite a contagious bug ah.. but thankfully we all survived, all thanks to hubby who diong with me throughout the night, sponging and giving Avery medication (which then she will throw up etc etc). Aiyoh.. am just grateful now okie.
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Iris,
Congrats on #2! What's the likelihood that both BB may have the same bday in dec? Take care!

Juz,
I am quite at a loss of words after reading about ur situation. If i can be frank with you, i didnt think that you look overweight at all when i last saw you at Adel's gathering but you do look abit tired and down. There may be many issues involve at the moment regarding ur r/s with hubby, baby and your own self.

This is just my opinion, perhaps you ought to talk to a counselor first and work out those issues clearly first before deciding on what path to take, be it to divorce or otherwise. I don't think anyone will judge you for that. My only concern is that you could be facing depression and decide on things too hastily for yourself and bb A. Take care...

Ypg,
Hope that your girl is alright now. When you say breathing problem, is it like asthma? Hope the TCM doc works out for her.. i used to have bad childhood asthma and TCM cured me in the end, instead of all those western medication and hospital visits :p


Rachel,
Poor jordan! Hope that he is better now. It hurts to see kids suffering esp when they cannot tell us! Aiyo.. my heart also pain for u..
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rachel
jordan went scn too ah? kayson oso went lei. 7hrs afta delivery they wheel him to scn coz he had abdominal distension n din burp afta i bf him.
 
hi aurorin, welcome back and was shocked to know that ur whole family was down with stomach flu? who got it first and what was the cause?

Haha, not to worry...i was talking abt Jordan was he was just born...but now everytime i think of that my heart damn pain too...sometimes when im fed up with his fussiness i just think of what he had suffered in the SCN and i will be more patient with him liaoz...yea i totally agree that it truely hurts to see kids (even if they are not ours) suffering esp when they can't tell us! But adults tend to feel loss when bb cry becos of pain..

Mommies...need ur advice here again...Jordan had his 3rd dose of 5-in-1 ytd and was feverish ytd but hb managed to stay awake ytd to wipe him to keep his temperature down...however Jordan seems very tired today...he has been sleeping from 11am til now at 230pm...shd i let him sleep or shd i feed him cos he has passed his feeding time?
 
Yea Iemiko....Jordan was sent to SCN the 2nd day he was born, i.e on 2 Dec 08....haha i oways found that our experiences are quite similar (Both our sons were born on same day at KKH, both were in SCN!?....etc..) although not all exp are good ones.
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How long was Kayson in SCN? And did they eventually find the reason why he had abd distention? But SCN got 2 diff rooms right? Jordan was in Pink room...Sigh...i feel that they kept him there for nothing lor...cos they didnt find any reason of his grunting also...my poor bb..
 
rachel, i think ur baby is gonna wake up soon. If excceed 30 mins or so should be ok bah. My bb is also extremly cranky after her jab though she got no fever but she look tired and sulk and pout whole day. But good thing is the next day she is her happy self again.
 
ypg,
yups i was really surprised that your gal could really jump so high and she really very active (compared to mine :p) Come to think of it, yr girl really liked the Jumperoo very much and its really worth while
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Too bad my baby kept sleeping, else i would like to let her try on that day too. However even if she likes it, i may not buy for her also, cos a 3-room flat is too small to put such a big thing :p
 
rachel, it's normal for Baby J to feel tired after his vaccination. Just let him sleep.. usually i never wake Zach up for his milk unless it was 6 - 7 hrs past his milk time..
 
rachel
kayson was there on 1st dec. coz i had c-sect around mid nite. hehe. scn got pink n blue. kayson was in blue. kept there for 24hrs b4 they let him return to nursey.

at scn, they onli insert ngt to aspirate out d air n montior nia. so i kip gg down to feed him every 2-3hrs. even my dr surprise to c mi walking around juz 10hrs afta my op. lolx.
 
jump jump jump..... bonk bonk bonk.....

yippee yippee...

eh.. sorry.. me siao liao.. keke..ya.. hayden have jumperoo.. and he loves to jump in it.. exersaucer not so fun coz only can go round n round.. the one that kath got at least can double up as walker n run round ard the table.. hahaha.. jumperoo ah.. can jump jump n turn turn lor.. i hear the music until it rings in my head at nite..

i guess to be husband and wife.. it takes "yuan fen" (fate) also.. and obviously it takes alot of effort too.. clarissa.. maybe u should go for counselling like wat the girls recommended... if u dun wanna go couple one, go for you own individual one.. coz everytime i "hear" u, i sense despondency and despair.. possibly depression too... well.. take things more positively.. Ambrose is a gem.. he is so cute! My parents divorced when i was 17.. and its all coz i told on my mum having an affair with a guy 7yrs older than me.. do you know that my WHOLE both extended family blames the marriage breakdown on me.. saying that i'm a bad person for breaking up my parents.. think of Ambrose.. what if he grows up n knows that you din want him, his parents dun love him, he was kicked ard for custody.. blah blah.. it will affect him..

My sis was under shared custody to both my parents.. but coz i was the "evil" one.. both didnt want me.. instead, i was "posted" to my aunty as my guardian.. how do you think i felt?
 
2nd bb
im getting a jumperoo. now waiting for d mummy to confirm time for viewing. hehe. kayson luvs to jump so tot of getting it so he can jump as much as he likes. haha. hopefully he can become talller as well. he quite short lei. hehe.
 


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