(2008/12) December 2008 MTBs

Bur
Yup I think so too. So I will just look for another bag to bring.

Fabbie
What kind of bag are you using to transport your pump and bottles?
 


foremilk/hindmilk

I don't think that hindmilk comes out only towards the end of the feeding... when I do pump, I notice that the colour of my milk changes midway through the first let down to a more creamy colour. I'm assuming the creamy coloured milk is hindmilk. I'm not sure if this is true for everyone.
when the milk is refrigerated, there is a layer of fat, followed by creamy milk about 85% then thinner milk at the bottom.

I always have more hindmilk, except for the first morning feed wh is more watery cos my breasts are full
 
Tamms
Mine is opposite of yours.. all the way when i pump, i see it as only 1 colour n its looks all watery. When i refrigerated it.. 85% all watery.. 15% is creamy on top...

i have to swirl it properly then warm the whole milk up.
 
Gathering
Ok ladies, the venue is confirmed as I've just paid for the function rooms
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Yeah!

Ok, food...wat shall be the menu for that day? Pot luck abit troublesome lah considering the fact that my place is far for most of you. If buffet, any suggestions or recommendations and a budget to stick to???
 
hey fabbie,
i'm at Tanjong pagar. actually in btw tanjong pagar & raffles place.
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Luthadel,
poor bryan...hope he's better now..
Hearing what u say, i better give strict instructions to my infantcare to change BB's diapers often...
I think i better come up with a list of instructions (black & white)..so far i keep giving so many instructions (on how to warm his milk / how to let him sleep/ etc..). But i scared they (the ppl at infantcare) later hear hear, then few wks later forget...

mummies, check with u, how many change of clothes do u provide for ur infantcare to change a day??


Infantcare
Today's bb's 5th day at Infant care..He's adapting much better now...definately better than 1st 2 days where he experiences seperation anxiety.. Tom's going back to work..time really flies so fast! Really miss my boy..Luckily thing I'm still able to visit my boy everyday at lunch time to latch on..

Hair Loss
anyone experiencing tremendous hairloss?? I've started realising i'm really losing a lot alot alot of hair since last 2 wks...I.e 3rd mth after delivery...I mean, i'm having long hair & a bit of hairloss still okie, but these days my hair loss is tremendous! everytime i run my hands thur my hair, i get bunches of hair dropping...Esp worried when sometimes in morning when i wakeup, i see strands of my hair in bb's cot (must hv fallen when i look in at bb at nite)..cant imagine if he puts the hair in his mouth..he's now at the stage where he likes to put his hands into his mth...
 
Jowin,
As to whether nutrients change based on pumping or latching I won't know unless there is research done. Anyway I'll just feed as much as I can continue pumping... At most I will go n get my ger saliva to apply on my breast lor... then wash before pumping... *haha*

Tamms,
Same here. The initial part is usually like water but v short while it will change to look thicker. Is ur milk yellow or whitish when u pump it out? Cos I heard more whitish is less creamy...

I only notice that my milk will seperate into clear water, powdery layer & oil layer aft refrigerating for 2 days. Else usually I can see only the fat n the powdery part...

Bur/Echo,
the bag is damn ex! But the thing is tat u can fix ur pump with the velcro so it won't be sliding ard in ur bag... I saw it once at Mums & Babes and I was wondering why so cheap (only to realise it does not come with pump). *haha*
 
Adel,
Hope bryan recovers soon. Quite shocked cos read that oni bb gers get UTI more easily since the urinary passage is shorter than the male counterpart. It's quite scary since UTI is related to kidney functions. My doc nearly sent me for kidney test when I had frequent UTI episodes...

Forgot to add, did Bryan pee pee enough? I noe if i dun drink enuf water I will get UTI...

Gathering:
That time I cater from Delihub for my ger's full month. The food is pretty good - love the chicken siew mai, chocolate eclair... I din get to eat the highlight -curry chicken thou (during confinement)... :'(
 
bur/echo/snowger
normally i put my pump sheild in a box.
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Than my pump is like that de, i put a mini torch light so i can see my breast is it clear. i put my handsfree, my socket my tub everything in the black box.
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If im lazy i will put it in my LV Bag which i feel not very mafan when i bring 2 bags. the blue color plastic bag is my bottles. Of cus its heavy lar everything but i think i still got more hands at least. But seriously carry a smaller hang bag with the pump is better. but u got no hand lor if you carry others. cus pump is quite heavy liao.
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But it depends on my wearing lor. sometimes i will bring my LV bag if not i will bring a normal bag and another PINK bag inside all my pump and my cooler bag. Like today i bring my LV bag. i go home with my hub not fetching me. i will change it to 2bags. so at least later MRT no seat i can put my pump on the floor! hehehe
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Of cus going home my 2 bottles will be in the cooler bag le. Hehe

Snowger is it u mah? or is it bur? cus i know its not very sticky leh.. i take it out with the black box. so at least no need to collect dust.
 
Gathering

Buffet suggestions:
1. Delihub - snowger
2. Chilli Padi (nyonya food) - emeraldbride
3.

Last 2 days I did hand express out some of my milk, very little foremilk more hindmilk and my milk is no longer whitish liao.. abit yellowish and I attribute it to the fish that I have been eating everyday..and it seems that baby can last longer with the milk. These few days he onie cry for milk every 5hrs..
 
emeraldbride,
I notice if I eat fish (more), the milk will be more yellow else it'll be more white... Chicken n pork dun hv this kind of effect.

Recently my ger oni cry for milk every 4hrs despite drinking lesser. My MIL says it's cos she is growing in her sleep!
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Fabbie,
I dunno who told u first but u got ask me la. Then u went to try and manage to get it out. Tat time I took out the pump... maybe my model diff from urs, I dun hv that black pouch leh...
 
snowger
oh than is not you liao. its bur liao.. I didnt know that theres a black pounch too leh. its bur told me that u can dig out. its inside that you cannot see. ours is PISA leh.. is the same wor. Ya Ya i rememebr liao. that infact i took out the pump only then after bur told me about the black thing which is inside. its able to take out de. u just got to dig it out. u tonight go see. Cause yours also PISA leh. cannot be not the same ma?
 
fabbie
Thanks for the pictures. Gave me some good ideas on what I can do, if I really cannot rescue my bag.

emeraldbride
I like Chilli Padi too! I used them for my girl's may yue. Very nice!!

Gathering

Buffet suggestions:
1. Delihub - snowger
2. Chilli Padi (nyonya food) - emeraldbride, echo
3.

Actually I'm still not sure whether I'll be able to go. Cos the week before that, my SIL and family will be visiting from Australia. So my hb may want to just chill quietly at home after they leave, rather than go for gathering. I confirm nearer the time can?
 
fabbie,
Confirm! Mine dun have the pouch! Feel so cheated...
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How come huh? :'( I just "ripped" the whole pump out leh...
 
gals.. i see.. meaning from here. i have more foremilk than hindmilk cos mine is actually more whitish & watery.. 15% of creamy on top of the bottle after refrigerated.

But i also eat fish daily leh... I think its ok la.. my ger still chubby chubby n often 3-4hrs then cry for milk... As long as PD said,ok then ok...

If not i be always scaring myself.
 
CALLING FOR XIAO POOH, BUBBLE & IEIMKO

Remember we ordered the Sagistarius romper???
Ok.. the stocks arrived at the supplier's place but ALAS... we ordered FIVE pieces & she only receive ONE piece.

Me & Fabbie gave up, we dun want it..
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3 of you, go Long Chiamz Pass...see who wants??? I ask the supplier to send to your house...
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Let me know soon...
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juz now brought zach to de PD..he's onie 6.1kg which is below avg
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din measure height though

PD say he got sensitive nose tat's y he tends to breathe loud n take deep breathe. She prescibed zyrtec to him as well
 
jo,
At least ur ger pui pui... not like mine... skinny lookin eh... mayb ur hindmilk althou like little but power leh? :p
 
Kath: 6.1kg is under weight? how frequent and how much Zach drinking now? recently i notice Louis also cannot finish his milk alreadu.
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Louis is 6kg in his 2nd month. this thursday will visit PD for vacination. will checkout the weight again. Louis has sensitive nose and skin too!!!
 
momlouis, yeah..cos Zach will turn 4 months next week. According to her chart, bb at that age is ard 7kg.. so zach is below average. However she say since zach is happy and alert and growing well dun hv to worry. Oso dun hv to feed him purposely wif FM to pump up the weight. BM is still the best
 
zayden is 6.5kg when 3mths+ and doc say it's normal, yst went for his vaccination and he is 7.2kg (4mths). doc say his weight is ok. actually how much should a baby gain weight in a mth? zayden is drinking +/-150ml every 4hrs now.
 
snowger, urs is the US version from first few yrs? it's slightly different frm those thats u buy elsewhe in S'pore, my mngr oso bought hers frm FFY, we compare & realise its different.

Fabbie, wah.. u use LV bag to put ur pump... not worry the weight will spolit the bag? me no LV bag, was thinking to put it in a recycling bag but scare the material won't be able to take the weight of the bag...think i go borrow my sis messenger sling bag...
 
mimi, i oso dunno how much weight shuld a baby gain in a mth.. in UK n US they hv a chart on how much bb will weigh if they are on BM but in SG onie one single chart which is more applicable for bb on FM.

PD say Zach's weight was low to begin with so is naturally he is leaner (note that she din say he is thin)..haha
 
bur,
I buy mine from Robinson leh... Sian one. How come mine dun have the pouch. Mayb the one I got is old model lor. Tonite I take the photo n post here for u to see how my bag look like. :p

emeraldbride,
ur PD very PC leh.
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I thinking of bringing my ger to c PD even thou take jab at GP. :p My PD super direct when I went to see her during 1st mth: ur ger is not drinking enough! "__"
 
wah liew. i just realise.. EVEN i go work. i also didnt use any of my milk in the fridge! wah. jialet my fridge is going to explode again!

echo
np! heheh Im lazy to explain how am i going to carry. so i just take photo more clearer. and thanks man for intro me the long bottle of pigeon. now at office normally i bring 4 bottles.(in case i OT) 2 bottles i put it in office(if no OT).. cus normally now i pump always get about 6.5oz each breast like that my bottles almost full liao lor! hhaha.

Snowger
My gal seems to be okai. back as usual that i dun feel that she's something wrong after i have take care of her on weekends. but i hope to have a comfirmation from doc that she has clear her everything But still im still applying cream for her. Hehehe. and wah lau! so shiok can drive liao huh! damn. everything can just dump in ya car liao lor! hehehe
 
fabbie,
I oso (infact i pump more in office - mayb not so stressed bah. wont hear bb crying halfway into pumping...)... tat's why going to give away the milk. Recently no time to go count and give to Aris n Juz. I have invaded my MIL's freezer and there isn't much space for my packets of frozen milk - I staying there now. :p

Ya to be safe, best get clearance fr PD lor. So excited, can't wait for my ger ger to be close to 4months to see what's her weight...
 
hi Kath.
ah.. average 7kg then consider ok? Zach n Ashlynne same birth date. SHe is at 6.8kg.. my PD said she is a little on the heavy side a( she is kind enough not to mention overweight)& yours is underweight? Perhaps maybe the difference in length as zach is 70cm...tats why he seem underweight la...

My PD also said Ashlynne is very ok n no need for her to slim down. HB even asked PD if we need to save $ for her to go MariFrance anot.. hahahha!!!

U receive the parcel???

Hi snowger
my milk super ah.. hahahhahahahah.....
I think my ger already born big at 3.58kg tats why she always seem bigger...
 
jowin, what parcel? From elly?? I receive liao lor.. nice leh the rompers. Good quality! Going to wash them tonite so that he can wear over the weekends!

PD say he is below avg base on the chart found in the health booklet. No need to measure height one leh.. but is ok lar since PD say nothing to worry abt. I oso since young is underweight and hb oso tall n thin..so mabbe he will be like us bah..
 
snowger
its whitish when i pump it out but after freezing yellowish.

chantalle
I'm not sure if the KK lactation nurse's claim of hindmilk coming in only after 10-15min is true. sounds pretty dodgy. Where did she get that info from?
 
agreed. kath, the most important is the baby healhty and happy.
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everytime when i ask my PD some question, my PD always tell me since Louis is happy and healhty, can eat and sleep, then he is ok. so, how's work after back from maternity?
 
Hi mayelynn, from ur previous post about ur bb sleep pose, any improvement?

mummies,
i have the same problem as mayelynn, i think my boy recently try to learn how to flip over. he always end up with the yoga pose. the head is turn on the top, during the night, he always eagerly practise it, and suffer when the head on top, then he will cry for help. ;( we been wake up many times to help him adjust his pose. when we put him sleep on his tummy, his head will look up and see here and there.
 
flipping:
My inlaws say my boy has flipped few times ydae n todae, but at nite when I was there to play with him, he refuse to flip leh.. so sad, missed out.. guess there will be other 'first' that I m gonna miss. Sob..

Pastillies,
me too. Hair drop ALOT ALOT. everyday after shower need to stand at window to pull out the hundreds of strands to throw out of window, else my whole hse will be hair everywhere. So bad that got lobang at the forehead area, like receding hairline!! Was told gonna last 6 mths wor.. thk by then I botak liao..

Fabbie, u really BM queen leh! envy envy.. keke

Luthadel,
Oh no, poor bryan. Is there anor infant care u can chg to? This one like bryan there nt v long then got flu, now this..
 
CALLING FOR BUBBLE & IEIMKO

<font color="0000ff">Xiao pooh said if no body want the romper then she take....</font> Bubble &amp; iemiko go scissor paper stone

Below is my previous post...

Remember we ordered the Sagistarius romper???
Ok.. the stocks arrived at the supplier's place but ALAS... we ordered FIVE pieces &amp; she only receive ONE piece.

Me &amp; Fabbie gave up, we dun want it..:)

3 of you, go Long Chiamz Pass...see who wants??? I ask the supplier to send to your house... :)

Let me know soon... :)
 
snowger &amp; fabbie
i just kenna a huge lump underneath my right breast again..
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i quickly Latch my girl.. 20mins.. still no solve.. then i look at my nipple n there seem a milk blister.. i pricked it.. the milk spray out.. quickly latch my girl again... thankfully.. its 80% clear.. Initially, i see n see, dun even see the blister lor....SIANz
 
Gathering
Date : 18Apr09 (Sat)
Venue : Corporation Rd

Attendance (Morning-10am - 4pm)+ No. of pax
1) bubblepearl +3(me, hb, bb)
2) Christine x 3 (me,hb,bb)
3) Snowger X 3 (me, hb, bb)
4) Tammy x 3
5) Adelchia x 3
6) Ivy x 2
7) iemik0 x 4 (me, hb, boi, bb)
8) Echt x 2
9) Joanne81 x 3 (me, hb, bb)
10) Vivian x 4 (me, hb, bb, sis) (sis-tentative)
11) Pipipapa x 2
12) 2nd bb x 3 (me, bb and maid)
13) Jess X 4 (me, hb, 2 boys)
14) Carmen x 2 (me and BB)
15) Merydith x 3 (me bb, hb)

Attendance (Afternoon -5pm - 11pm)+ no. of pax
1) bubblepearl +3(me, hb, bb)
2) emeraldbride x 3 (me, hb and bb)
3) MomLouis x3 (me, hb and bb)
4) mayelynn x 3 (me, bb, hb)
5) reddates x 3 (me, bb, maid)

Buffet suggestions:
1. Delihub - snowger
2. Chilli Padi (nyonya food) - emeraldbride
3.

Ok, seems like there will be more during the morning slot (i.e. from 10am - 4pm) if that is still the case by 10April, I'll give up the afternoon slot lah, no point keeping both. What do you gals think?
 
mom louis

i asked pd about this sleeping pattern. he said just let hte baby do watever he wants!
sigh so i just let him be otherwise if i keep interupting his sleep, bb will get v frustrated and keep turning back. he dont sleep i also cant get to sleep.
just spent 1 hour putting him to bed! exhausted manz, gg to sleep liao. wooh~! so tiring to put him to bed.
 
Mimi - really admire babies who can stretch feed to 4hr. mine drinks 150ml every 2.5hr in day time... of coz we r trying to drag to 3hr. Teacher at infant care weigh him on Mon and he is 7.8kg at 3mths 10days. i have lower back ache from carrying him w bjorn everyday.

Snowger - sounds like u have lots of bag of BM.

Mommy Louis/mayelynn - my boy also have the sleeping pose nowadays. i scare his spine doesn't grow properly. his butt usually face up, but shoulder is sideways and head is slanted at an angle.
 
i really agree that never ever make a woman angry! The Ped Egg thread really drama man! u guys shuld go read..all the nasty words, stabbing etc..

Juz, mabbe u can increase his milk intake to 180ml n see if he can stretch to 3hrs? Abit ambitious to stretch him from 2.5hrs to 4hrs immediately lar.. could it be since young the moment he cry u guys feed him with milk that's y now he is expecting milk at such short interval?
 
mayelynn/juz - ya. nowadays i wake up frequently to adjust his pose when he cry for help aftr he maintain for long time on his yoga pose. sometime also worry he might flip over and his head is on the bed so he cannot breath. :s but, i really wish i can see he success flip over one day!!!! :D

kath/juz - my boy also drink milk every 3 hours.
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recently he reduce his milk to 4onz from 5 onz. and nowadays he cannot finish 4 onz also!!! as kath said, maybe everytime when he frust and cry, we just give him the milk, so, nowadyas when he can't fell sleep and frust, he ask for the milk. how ah?
 
give water! Haha...or give pacifier lor. Shuld never use milk to stop bb cry! Before u knew it, bb will get fat and obese later in life. Always feed on time then shuld be ok. I tink in another few weeks Louis shuld be able to stretch his hrs fr 3 to 4 bah.. Zach oso 120ml (if FM) and he can stretch to 6hrs sumtimes
 
kath, hopefully Louis can stretch it to more than 3 hours soon lah.
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just pray for it!!! :D 6 hours??!!! wow! that's a lot ler.
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seems like zach progress very well. so, how is zach infantcare? is he adapt the environment there?
 
he is ok leh.. the teachers were telling me usually is the mummy that cannot adapt..babies easy and he is not recognising environment yet so is easy for me n him! Daddy is sad though that he is going to infantcare..sadder that zach dont really want him to carry. haha
 
Snowger
I pump in office quite stress leh. cus i dun wan to spend too much time on pumping. scare they say i didnt work. only pump nia! lol. haha mine this sat then can go see her weight and today she's 4 months old! so happy! but before i go work she sleep. so sianz! arghz

Jowin
till now i didnt ever encounter a blister before leh. you mean you got to burst it? using what? isnt that painful?!

Cindy
I rather not be! i rather be normal.. =( at least i wont have to pump so long or take so many bottles out. haiz. jialet hard to stop sia! and i already 1 day pump 3 times liao. still the milk is alot. I hope if i keep continue it will reduce more.
 


hi jowin,

how do u burst yr blister? with needle? i always had them. occasionally
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so painful.. my method is let hte baby suck suck suck.. but these days, he is not so cooperative to suck.
 

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