(2008/12) December 2008 MTBs

i am thinking of getting lactation consultant to help me with breast feeding. Anyone got any contact or any good lactation consultant to recommend?
 


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yes.. infact that time i tout my stiches is not recover.. and slowly i realize i have a bump like that lor. but now slightly okai le.

YA im same with u leh.. my this breast gets okai. another breast got problems. Why huh? like both breast canot be okai de ah? how to make both breast like sisters? 1 heal.. all heal! like me i have a lumo on my left. the lump seems like smaller but now my right i feel like got a "blueblack" on my breast! i cannot see,,, but i can feel it is "oh chei"
 
hi iemiko / xiaopooh,
thanks! will let HB koe to decide on the vacinnation. i koe polyclinic is free but like what xiao_pooh says, I worried the polyclinc too sickly environment & scared long wait will affect baby.

ehh, my baby's cord also not drop off yet, today is Day 11 already...however I got wipe w cord spirit everyday leh..
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Oh whens the best time to express out? Before baby latches on or after baby finish latching on?

Then for the breastpump, do u sterlise after use & sterlise again before use? OR just sterlise after use & can immediately use it straight away for next use without sterlising again.
 
cord:
mine has not dropped off yet too, hanging there like cannot bear to leave like dat! hahha... my CL said sud drop off in next 1-2days wor =)
 
Juz,

I got my $750 about 2 to 3 weeks after applying. I got the balance $250 about 2 weeks after the $750. Cause my BB is born b4 the law is passed officially. I think u will receive $1k in about 2 to 3 weeks after applying.

As for CDA, according to MCYS, it will be much later. Hence I wrote in to ask them to send me the letter to open CDA account sooner. I got it about 1 week after my email. Quite fast. You can write in if you want to use CDA for your child 6-in-1 injection since it include Hep B which your BB need to inject around 2nd month. If you go polyclinic, Hep B will be injected at the 1st month since polyclinic dun have 6-in-1.

I choose polyclinic as the cost is cheaper. I choose 5-in-1 for my BB. 1st jab at her 3rd month. 4 jabs at $87.40 each. That is $350. If used CDA, I only paid $175.

Let me know if you need more info on BB jab, I got a hard time trying to understand it. Got nasty stare from the nurse also. Hehe...

Carmen,

My BB cord only drop off 1 day b4 her full month celebration. She got stubborn cord. So we got to pay extra care when bathing her. B4 her bath, we use sesame oil on her belly button. We still doing it now, to prevent water from entering her belly button. So less chance of colic or wind. Any mummy do this also?
 
Carmen, my David also has baby acnes on his chin and cheek. At first I was also quite disturbed. My Pedia gave him antibiotic cream, but I dun want to apply it. I just clean his face with cooled boiled water after each feed, seems to be better already. Read on some websites that baby acne is caused by residual hormones from the mummy. They'll clear by themselves one. ^^
 
Carmen: Preston's fsce also has these pimple-like rash. My CL said it's due to heatiness, just leave it alone and it'll go away.
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But i still apply a tiny bit of aloe vera gel to his whole face.


Iemiko: Ok, then i'll give Preston a little bit of water. Max 10ml is it? Must be boiled cooled water?


Pastillies: Don't worry, Preston's cord stump only dropped off on 12th day!
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Hi ladies,
i feel so discouraged. Day 8 already and i can only pump 20ml after 1 hour. Bb keeps crying after latching on for 40min and CL keeps saying not enough milk. Make me so stressed and depressed.

Cried when i had to give bb formula milk. Can anybody help advise what i can do to increase milk supply? Will fenugeek pills cause engorgement if i take them? I got some hard lumps but they slowly softening after massage.

depressed.....
 
adelchia, dun cry!! U juz hv to turn a deaf ear to ur CL!! Don't give up on latching and pumping. It will help to stimulate milk production. Did u use a warm towel to cover ur breast before pumping? Massage ur breast before pump? Drink a warm cup of red dates tea or hot milo before pumping.. u must keep urself hydrated in order for milk to come in!! Ask ur CL to stop her comments and cook u more steam fish or papaya soup or black bean soup to increase supply lar..hahaha

Got hard lump means got engorgement, got engorgement means got milk ah..so dun give up ya!

So angry with my MIL, juz now came to my place and immediately whip out an envelope with old photos of her younger son now saying that my baby looks like him. show me the photos, i really wanna ask which part other than the private area is similar to his sons? I dont even wanna hold tat photo less talk to her after tat..one more time she mention that, i will not hesitate to tell her off..make my blood boil!
 
Hi Adel,
do u take fish and take alot of fluid to help to increase breast milk. Try to rest more and relax. I find that help as well. Think we are too stress over breastfeeding.

Cos i always told my hubby i find myself useless cos dun have enough milk for bb. He have to keep reminding me that my milk supply have increase. Cos my boy was on total EBM for 2days liao.

Everyday eat fish till i sian already. Dun get too stress up ok. If really not enough FM also good lar.
 
Hi gals,
take it easy that when MIL mention that your baby look like hubby. I heard these comments since day 1 when i have my elder boy. Till now my boy going to be 3 yrs old liao he still look very much like his daddy and his action like daddy as well.

Now with my newborn the same thing happen. Keep saying that my boy look like his daddy. and look like his elder bro when he is a baby. Even my own granny think that my 2 kids look like my hubby loh. I can only tell myself they look like daddy cos they are his sons. Wat to do? They look like daddy is better than they look like someone else rite?
 
AdelChia,
i oso experience the same thing when bb was in his 1st week like not enough milk... pumping for almost 1hr & got only less than 10ml for both sides, but i never giv up.. so u also dun giv up, continue to let ur bb latch on as often as possible, and slowly ur BM will increase... drink more fluid, take a hot bath / hot drink before pumping milk, it helps!

my bb is now 2 wks old, and now my supply is quite stable already, which i can get 200ml for both sides within 15mins, however i dun pump often, only 1-2 times a day coz i try to go for total latch on...

so dun giv up easily, JIAYOU, ok?
 
jappooh, u urself oso agree that ur bb look like hb so is okay..but the prob is my bb dun even look like hb or myself..hahaha. Even my own parents say he dun look like anyone of us or even anyone in the family!!
 
Hi emeraldbride,

oic. my 2 kids indeed look like my hubby so i just keep quiet. Sometime i did comment to my hubby that like i dun give birth to them like that. My MIL will also dig out my hubby photos to show that how they look alike.

If your baby dun look like anyone then your in law should say that look like your hubby rite? Maybe she was wan to show the baby belong to your hubby??
 
jess..what you drink to increase supply??my baby 2weeks plus...but the most i pump is 100ml...but so far...whenever i pump i only get 80ml....really dont know what to do...supply cannot meet demands...
 
see my cheeky baby..sticking out his tongue when daddy trying to take his picture..he's been sticking out his tongue the whole day todae and CL say is cos his tongue is dirty and he is showing it to us..haha

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how i know what is her intention..this is the 2nd time liao leh..first time she brought the photo over to show my parents and then today brought it over to show me but i show my very disinterested face and cont reading my newspaper..haha...dun even bother talking to her.
 
Adelchia, my cl was just like yr cl, saying y so little milk on my 5th day. Haha. Nw i already got packs of milk to freeze, my cl got nothing to say liao. Try to take papaya fish soup, it will help increase milk ss.
 
Adel, dun be too upset k..u've did ur best in BF. turning to FM is prefectly fine.
I was super super depress in the first few days after discharge fm hospital as the inital Colostrum wasnt enuff to keep baby full & satisfied. Coupled sore/painful nipples & my CL also keep say i got not enuff milk shd supplement with FM, really make me so depress.
In the end when i gave in to 1 feed of formula, baby really slept so well after tat. I also cried when having to give in to that formula feed, & when i see baby sleeping so well i cried even more as was thinking whether my insistence on BF w/o FM was doing bb harm or good.

Anyway after that 1 Formula feed, I was determine to hack care what my CL says. So when she keeps saying bb got nt enuff milk, i just tell her "nvm i'll feed more frequently then".
BM flow only start to improve few days later. My cousin was telling me not to try expressing in the first few days as the yield is too little & u'll be even more demoralise. Just increase the suckling frequency = feed on demand. Now its feed on demand, which is tiring but i'm still trying to hang in there.

So hang in there gal.

Even now @ day 11, I also dun get alot when i express out. HB thinks i'm too stress out over expressing out milk, which i think so too...so gotta try to relax our minds when feeding baby & expressing..

same as what Jappooh & emeraldbride says, eat more fish & drink more fluids.
 
ivy,

i don't drink anything in particular, but my 3.5YO son luv ABC soup so my mum cook almost everyday for him then i also drink lor... For papaya fish soup i only drink once, not really like it... but i do take a lot of fluids esp PLAIN WATER coz i'm so thirsty esp after BF my bb.. and same as others, i drink a lot of hot milo too
 
the weather now has turned cooler. My bb has developed mucus and snores/choke in her slp and during breastfeeding time inhales very noisily.... very heartache & cried to see such a fragile bub to suffer like this T__T Better to swaddle bb up than let the chilly wind get them sick k.

Breastmilk supply. I don't pump and only collect the leaked amount which comes up to 50ml~60ml from the non feeding breast per feed.... If I should pump, when is the best time to get the best yield?? Bb's appetite seems to be growing... Tot I can reach 1.5hrs or 2hrs interval latching but seems like its gone back to 0.5hrs again.... so shiong.... I really dun want to depend on FM..... sad......
 
ladies.. polyclinic vaccinations are not FREE for your info... =)

5in1- $290
6in1- $300++ not more than $350

polyclinics do not have rotavirus n pneu-blah~~ vaccines....

tmrw bringing hayden to polyclinc again 4 his jaundice check again.. hope his jaundice clear le... actually, when i bring him there, we are in priority Q..not coz i work 4 the gahmen.. but coz infants got priority.. i usually carry him in my pupsik pouch n i will avoid the crowded areas.. i will wait at the open air corridor..

so, to do his lab test n see dr.. + my journey there n back is usually abt 45mins to 1hr.. my place n the polyclinic is abt 5mins away...
 
oh ya.. thanks all 4 the advice on the rash/pimple/acne thing.. very xing tong too see him mor peng... but since tmrw see dr then see wat dr say lor.. i din apply anything.. but i wipe bb face after every feed with water lor..

i give water too.. coz bb is constipated..
 
iemik0,

my boys are 15mths apart.. #1 still enjoy trying to master standing independently.. during weekdays he's at infantcare.. like you, we'll look after when he's home frm infantcare and during the weekend.. so far no sign of jealousy.. phew..

just that today, felt so handful coz HB's occupied w/ other commitments.. but the weekday is coming.. so, yay! i can focus on #2 and also have a chance to rest more..
 
hi ladies,
Thanks for all the advice. I initially drank the fish soup daily, then got engorged so stopped. Think will continue after I can clear engorgement.
There is just a lot of pressure from parents, in laws and the CL who keep nagging that my milk is not enough, make me more stress.
And my CL insist I can't drink water, so I got dehydration. Then only yesterday my MIL scolded me for not drinking water.
Who can I blame? so many conflicting advice.
Now I try to hand express more coz I find it more effective than pump. Hopefully when mature milk come in then the supply is more.

Thanks all for being listening ear. Really grateful for frens like u...

Now I massaging and wait for bb to wake to feed.
 
ywans.. so tired.. just feed my baby and same time pump pump pump.

btw is it me or you mummies will feel that after pumping your milk you tense to quite hard to sleep huh?

Adel
Jia you ^___^
 
dee - i know kkh doesn't give any cord spirit, but i bought at guardian 1 bottle to use.

ypg - yes, i got more qns. so the 5-in-1 doesn't include hep b, which need to be taken at 1 mth? do u have the sample of writing to mcys (if yes can forward to me?), or is the email add [email protected]?

emeraldbride - aiyo, calm down.

piGgiCia - where to u intend to take hayden for rotavirus n pneu vaccines?
 
hi gals
seem like everyone is so stress over BF and same here.. i m tired of waking of pumping every nite.. 2 times in the nite.. if not i feel engorge on my breasts.. Really wish to do away with nite pumping..Recently i tried to latch her on more + pumping... hoping that i can go back to total latching and only pump a few times.. but my ger already got use to " instant gratification" where milk just come in asap than slowly to suckle for it.. Sigh.. will try on more..

Abt the ss, i m like stablise on 100ml per feed and soon my ger will meet this supply and i cannot match her demand. Gosh!! I have been taking in alot of liquid - water, milk, soup etc etc....

About FM, i did try to give her 1-2 feed at nite to prolong her sleep.. but seem tat it only prolong her 1hr extra or only 30mins extra. People say can help to sleep thruout the nite.. HOW?? NO LEH.. my girl still very cranky at nite...

Now, i really sick to pump more to increase ss, really hate nite feed or nite pump.. SIANZ AH!!!! Just like now, its 3:13am i still pumping... zombie!!!

Sorry for the complaints..
 
hi mummies! really thks for all ur concern...my milk has stop completely...after taking pills...n now i think becos of my stress n fever..i start to develop sore throat! worse..i cannot take plain water...cos i am doing confinement at my parent's place...my mum n sil are in the kitchen almost whole day!! they are monitoring my intake of red date tea....i am sick of that too...

kath, my CL is my mum...n i have been complaining to her that i am so sick n tired...now is only day 16...i am counting days everyday!!!!

Xiaopooh: i told my hb that it is the not the delivery process tediously..it is the 40 days!!!!

Oh ya...for those who have lumps..pls do not use hot towel to massage it!!! use cabbage to cool the area 1st ..then massage the lump...my problem is when i have lumps..i use hot towel to massage..and according to kkh lacation...she say..it will only help to simulate more milk!!! My hb n i were shocked when we heard that...cos we keep using hot towel....
 
Juz..5in1 dun have the hep b dose 3 so..u have take in extra injection in 5th mth..according to what i understand from the doc.

I also gog to polyclinic..cheaper..n we dun see the need to go see pd..but true as what xiao pooh say..many sickly pple there...
 
bubble, day 16 liao!! another 12 more days to go..meaning 1.5 weeks more. Hang in thr ok.. be a good girl and listen to ur mom n SIL n drink ur red date tea..is meant to replenish 'blood' and qi used up during our 9 month of pregnancy.

Phyl, so fast u start using the pupsik pouch liao..mine still unused..hahaha. I will need to practise with Zach first this weekend before using. Is it very easy to use? Did Hayden squirm inside?

U gals all giving baby pneumococcol jab? It is not a compulsory jab leh..so I am still considering it.

Jo, if u wanna pump exclusively, then dun latch but if u wanna latch then pump, then will be very 'xiong'. Now, I only pump like 3x a day i also feel abit sian liao..latch on alr take 1 hr, settle him down, i wash up etc..1.5hr before pump need to massage lar etc..after pump need to wash myself, wash pump accessories, sterilise..1.5hr gone.. then time to latch again.
 
ask u gals hor.. for EBM that was stored in fridge, how long do u gals warm it up? 2minutes in hot water? How u gals test if the milk is okay to be consumed by bb? BB dont need to drink warm milk rite? room temp will do rite? Me oso confused.

What about frozen milk?
 
wah ikeike, u can collect so much leaking milk when baby latches the other side ah!
I sometimes pump also dun get so much fm 1 side..

Jess really envy ur supply...I also on total latch on now. when do u pump? before or after baby's finish latching?

I also find the leaking milk very wasteful when bb latches, but how to pump? I need to hold bb where got hands to still hold the pump to express? moreover everytime bb needs his milk, he where got so good wait for me to finish sterlising again the breastpump parts, so have been just letting it leak lor
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hi phyl,
thanks for the polyclinc prices!

yup i think we are all super stress & depress over BM & BF for say....
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pris
i try to give max 10ml onli. scare ltr tummy full n don wan milk. hehe. i give warm water. =)

japooh
both my bois look like hb as well. mi used to it liao. coz like wat u say, its his sons as well. hehe.

dee
good ting no signs of jealousy. my nephews fight everydae one. simply cant get along. mayb my sil din prep him enuf during her preg. coz when i was preg wif my 1st boi, d elder one suddenly come to mi n gave my tummy a hard push. make mi cry afta tt in d car. worst was my sil n bil din say a ting. faints. incorrect guidance i find. smmore my sil gave birth not long ago to 2nd one so elder one shud know wat is pregnant ma.

adelchia
drink more fluids to keep urself hydrated k. mi drink water all d time coz im veri dehydrated. lips craking even thou i drink more dan 1.5l every dae.

jowin
i read tt if bb has enuf milk in d dae. den nite will slp for longer periods. i find tt true. now my boi can slp 4-5hrs w/o milk le. my elder one oso same when he abt 1mth.

kath
mi giving my boi prevenar jab. coz elder one gg to childcare soon so beta b safe. if bb being looked afta by one caregiver who is not lookin afta other kids, can give it at 2yrs. coz younger u give, more no of jabs will be needed. 2yrs old = 1 jab.

i use avent warmer to warm up milk. takes abt 5mins if from fridge.
 
hi iemik0
oh.. like tat.. my bb drink alot already in day till she reject herself n puke.. so wat is enough lor... sigh,,

hi kath
i really dun know wat to do..
 
Juz

Since now polyclinics under 2 health groups, I think got difference. Coz phyl's polyclinic got 6-in-1, mine (Bedok) told me dun have and no package fee also. So I got to go for Hep B at my BB 1st month n 6th month.

Actually jab are free unless you go for extra. For Singaporean BB, you dun have to pay for Diphtheria, Pertussis, Tetanus, Poliomyelitis (DTP, Polio) but if I want to inject against meningitis caused by Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib), you got to take 5-in-1 jabs and pay. In another word, I am paying $350 for this Hib jab.

According to the leaflet I got from polyclinic, it stated that Hib vaccinese have not been included in the National Childhood Immunisation Programme as Hib meningitis is uncommon in Singapore. As for why chickenpox not included in the free jabs, it is because chickenpox causes only a mild illness in childhood.

But I kiasu parent, so decided to go for 5-in-1 and chickenpox (I think around BB 1st birthday). I think chickenpox vaccination is a must, cause I heart pain to see my BB suffering. I got chickenpox when I am 13. Till now can still remember the suffering.

I will forward you my email to MCYS.
 
iemik0,
gosh, thankfully everything went OK with ur #1.. yeah, usually the parents just boh-chap what their kids do.. which i find not to be good for the children because they need boundaries and disciplines..
one good thing will be is, our boys will have playmates and they can share alot of things coz their age gap is only 1yr..
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will u try for a gal? hee..

ypg,
are the jabs given by polyclinics for Diphtheria, Pertussis, Tetanus, Poliomyelitis (DTP, Polio) SINGLE jabs?
 
Iemiko: Thanks...i'll give max 10ml then. How many times should i give him water daily? He takes 2 or 3 feeds FM daily.


Kath: I use Avent express warmer to heat up milk from the fridge. It takes about 5 min using Setting 3. Can't help you about frozen milk cos i don't freeze my EBM.


Ike: You can leak so much!! Wow, your ss must be very good!


Jowin: Until now, Preston has never slept through the night. I think it's still too soon for them to do so cos their tummies are small and they can't drink much water at one go. Even when Preston takes FM, he can only last 3 hours before he wakes up again.


Bubblepearl: How long did you take the med before your BM ss stopped? Did you put cabbage?


Carmen: Preston also has the bumpy-rash on his face. I googled and i think it's baby acne. It's supposed to disappear on its own. My CL said that he's heaty so i'm going to start giving some water cos he drinks FM for some feeds.
 
dee

I dun think so. As stated in the health booklet, my BB got to take it at 3rd, 4th, 5th and 18th month. So in total 4 jabs. But polyclinic say can take Hep B (supposed to be taken in 6th month) together with the DPT at 5th month.

My mum give my BB pao4 sheng1 to eat b4 her jab so that she wun have fever after that. She din have fever after her Hep B jab but actually nurse at polyclinic say Hep B jab wun give fever. So I am still monitoring the effect of pao sheng. If at next month, my BB din have fever after her DPT jab then I think pao sheng work. Will update you gals later.

Baby pimples

I apply toothpaste on my BB face as advised by her nanny. Those children type of toothpaste. It works well on her. At 1st I quite hesitate to apply cause I read on baby website, it will go off itself but it din go off and it's getting worse so bo bian got to trust old wives' tales. Luckily it works.
 
dee
don tink will try for ger. scare ltr get another boi. 3 bois will be terror. lolx. wat abt u ? =p

kath
tt's wat recommended by avent so i juz follow. hehe. but at hosp, usually we warm abt 5mins oso so tt d milk we give is warm one .
 
can anyone tell me what are the vaccinations needed and the prices???like if i take 6in1, what jabs not included..what are the additional jabs?

the CDA can use to pay for the jabs at all clinics or only at polyclinic?
 
emeraldbride: LOL...just take your MIL's comments with a pinch of salt lah. Mine even said that David's cry is exactly like his daddy's. (-_-") Oh well.

The few times I gave EBM, I warmed up the milk with 40 degrees celsius water slowly (took a whole 10 mins).

Adel: Dun worry. My MIL also keeps hinting that I dun have enough breast milk, and that I'm starving my baby. She even said her supply last time was so abundant the milk will spray all over baby's face when she's feeding (she prob think that's the only kind of supply that will fulfil baby's needs)! As long as baby is generating enough wet and poop diapers, then there is no problem. Pumping is not the best indicator of breast milk ss. Usually, electric pumps cannot drain milk from the breasts as efficiently as the baby. Dun give up! You're doing what is best for baby! Jiayou!

ypg: Baby so small can eat pao sheng meh?
 
emeraldbride, for frozen EBM i usually bring it down fm freezer to let it thaw in the fridge. Eg I've been doing my massages these few days. I'll bring down the frozen EBM the nite before & it will be thaw by next morning. To heat up, I also use food warmer. I not sure how long it takes but HB says take super long, like 10min..
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but then the temperature is not very hot/high, cos after warming up the milk HB says like room temp not warm enuff. then my CL says its enuff cos after all when BB drinks our BM is also not hot one.

baby pimples: I just leave them alone. Read that it will go away on its own leh...

Bubble, how come u doing 40 days confinement ah??
i super buay tahan this whole confienment thingy..I also counting down to end confinement.. another 18 more days
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Can check with u all, after the 1 mth confinement, we hv another 2-3 mths before going back to work, who is helping u with the BB? U think we can handle on our own?
 
aiyoh.. then my BIL juz msn me say that my bb's eyes is like his.. in my mind i was thinking, wah liao, every part of my baby is like their family.. scared ppl dunno he follow their surname meh. Jia lat one lor.

Wah..10mins to warm up the milk? I use boiling hot water and so far when i warm up i onie use up to 2 minutes and juz nice the milk is at room temperature but i dunno if bb tummy can take it or not..keke
 
pastillies, thanks for sharing..but if we go out, how to bring thawed EBM?? Now i alr manage to store quite a bit so mabbe wanna let bb try one of these days..keke

After my CL leave, i will be aloen with the bb. Should be able to handle lar, I onie worried abt night time. Day time Zach onie eat and sleep. Hv to master how to bathe him onie..but cleaning his poo and changing diapers I alr know...
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ivy
optional vaccinations r rotarix (rotavirus), prevenar (pneumococcal) n chickenpox. d rest of d vaccines listed in help booklet is compulsory.

kath
cannot use boiling hot water, nutrients will be gone. use slight hot water will do.

pastillies
mi doing confinement alone so wun be a prob to look afta bb when confinement ends. counting dow n 7 more daes n im free. lolx.
 


i havent done it cos havent gone out yet, but i guess 2 ways if BB needs milk when we go out:
1. BF.
2. same thing, bring down fm the freezer to the fridge in advance (say the nite before), then we can go out with the cold EBM & heat up with warm water when outside. Alt i actually hv half a mind to just bring along the food warmer since its quite small. (just need to find electrical outlet)
But not sure once the EBM leaves the fridge got to use by when....anyone koes?
 

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