(2008/12) December 2008 MTBs

MC,

i fully understand what you mean.. me and HB also want all natural..
actually if already dilate, no induction is required.. it's only whether you want to speed up the labor..
i'm thankful for my gynae bcoz he totally understands our choice.. UNLESS there's medical reason for intervention, he will let us know what's best..
my bb was already engaged and i was already 3cm dilated (2nd preg, bb only engage during labor) when i saw my gynae on the 10th.. we had two choices, wait for actual EDD (15th) but he won't be ard to fetch bb and we didn't want to take the chance by letting bb out anytime during gynae's absence OR speed up labor (tho the word he used was induce, which can be too commonly used these day)..
we decided to speed up labor (by artificially breaking waterbag and on IV glucose + oxytoxin, no pessary to soften cervix).. we didn't want to drag too long and also i wanted out of hospital by weekend so that #1 is well taken care of..
so, next day admit.. when gynae broke waterbag, bb alr poo inside.. let's say if we delay, bb would definately be in distress.. no good.. another thing was, when bb was alr out, the cord was very close to his neck and if given more time, no one knows if it's gonna go round the neck.. so, it was all blessing in disguise..

if gynae gives good reasons to getting baby out.. ie placenta aging or the level of amniotic is on a low side, etc.. perhaps you can help yourself to speed up dilation naturally.. so that you don't have to go through induction..
for my #1, i was given a "deadline" due to placenta aging, if bb not out by EDD, go in for induction.. but couple of days before, i made sure i do something to get the cervix open up.. thankfully, i was dilated and no need for induction..

did your gynae mention the reason why you need to be induced?
 


Hi
just came back fr gynae appt.
next appt on 24 dec. CTG will be done. tink if there is contraction, might asked to be induced on that day. quite reluctant for bb to be induced coz is a long and painful wait (i was induced for my 1st bb).
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hi all
my ML lady just drop by to my house and help me massage my breast. WOW now i know what is my little lump! she told me is my veins.. and plus some milk clots surrounding it. and the massage was damn painful lor! so gals do pump reguarly if not like me! but my ML told me that normally people got lump on the armpits there. hopefully my clot will disappear after massage. if not i must see my doc liao. haiz.. and this topid thing causes me so high fever.. sighz

YL
hopefully you give birth on xmas! its so special! ^___^
 
fabbie..

better take care and pump regularly.. u dun want to have mastitis.. quite jialat... my fren had it and she now got phobia of breastfeeding..

drink more fluids too.. and dun wear under wire bras.. will cause block milk ducts..
 
i still need clarifications... in terms of breast pump, do u all sterilise once a day then use throughout without any rinsing or washing?

what i normally do - sterilise 3 bottles at a go abt once a day, then use the 1st one a few times with rinsing of hot water between use, than go to 2nd one... is that ok?

Merydith - ooo... i think ur case more crucial for anathetist to come fast.
 
Juz: I sterilize after every use & washing.


2nd baby: Today he seems a little bit betta sleeping in the other direction. Hopefully it'll continue. Thanks for clarifications about the maid.
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Merydith: I'm super bored at home too!!
 
sianz. mi got one lump on my left breast. tried applying warm towel n massage n pump but sitll there. ltr gotta try again. argh.

juz
its beta to sterilize afta every single feed. means once tt bottle is used, do not used it again until its being sterilized.

bb still young so bottle hygiene veri impt.
 
Juzyounme, i also sterilize after every use.

btw, is medela PIS good? where to get the best deal? i think my mini electric is dying, the pump something wrong, sometimes no suction at all.
 
wah piang!!! i type so much and the stupid error messageerase everything haix..

fabbie, i nve see Dr normal..in fact i think the fever attack is cos by my left nipple pain..cos ytd was my 2nd massage session n i told my ML that my left nipple v pain n sore...so she press and she say got a lot of wind..so she massage n damm pain! after that i wore back my nursing bra..i think the nursing bra no wired , provide no support for me. no engorgement for me on the last fever attack.

I need wired bra to support my busts...mine a bit sagging at the beginning liao

re induce: I did ask my dr why need to induce when just 1-2 overdue..he told me he scared the incident of stillborn happen...once i heard that, i got cold feet..aiyo faster deliver lah..anyway..earlier or later also need to deliver.

Sterlizer bottles..same as pris..i will collect a couples of bottles and pump accessories and sterlize together.
 
Hello mummies!

Just went for KKH to check up this morning. Not very good news..
Doc says my baby is not growing well... sighz.. Only 2.4kg at week 38. When i last seen him 2 weeks ago, BB weighs 2.6kg. He says BB is very small and may need to induced me by next week.
I was diagnosed with two-Vessel Cord (Single Umbilical Artery)at the beginning of my pregnancy and was told by Dr that this is ok for me and Baby.

I am very scared now, coz he asks me to monitor BB movement closely and i need to report to Hospital anytime. This morning, Dr did a VE for me, strap ne to CTG and told me i am 0cm dilated. Hours later i had spotting and light bleeding.

I supposed itz caused by the VE this morning since i experience no contraction pain??
 
Juz
once i use everything i ster including pump.

iemik0
sounds like the same! is it a small lump? where is it? mine also left breast sia.. u got fever?

bbpearl
what u mean stillborn happen? dun wear wired bra is better leh.
 
chantalle, u mean ur bb is losing weight?? Did you discuss with ur gynae what is the best option? Since u r alr in 38 week, has bb engaged? If yes, mabbe can induce?
 
fabbie
small lump on left breast below nipple area. hard to get it out. mi so far no fever. tinking of gettin my boi to latch ltr. dono he willing to latch anot afta so long.

if not, muz wait till tmr for my ML to help mi massage it out. =(
 
Loveangel/Fabbie - Will try to pump more times. Now still adjusting to pumping. Especially when i using the Medela Swing single to pump, very slow leh.. Took abt an hour to pump for 2 breast.
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Btw, how do u know if ur breast is choke? I still feel my breast abit hard after i had pumped. Does it mean i hv lump or choked breast? I just notice the tip of my nipples got abit of white dots and there's a small shui pao like thing on the side of my right nipple.
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Pumping while latching on is such a dilemma. I started pumping yesterday (only twice :p) and I realised that increases my supply. Now little David seems to be taking more foremilk when I latch him on, and his poop seems more watery than the usual curdly ones. I really dunno if I should continue pumping since I'm total latching on. Very confused.
 
suddenly i m having menses..wonder if it is cos my mom bought some pills for me to eat to clear all the dirty blood accumulated during 9 mths of pregnancy..alot leh!! Change 3 pads within 3 hrs...

My nipple is so sore.. wearing bra also hurts!!
 
bbpearl
dun have leh!

Gerry
whast mastitis? how is it like ah? i read about it.. but till now i still duno what is it! faints.. infact im quite scare to touch my breast liao.. is so damn pain.

iemik0
ya.. hope ya ML will help u massage.. and remember to pump before you let her massage your breast.. if not damn pain.

Fong2
about the shui pao im not sure.. is about the milk blister that someone is talking about it.. you got recheck some of the posts. Yes after you pump IF your breast is still hard you got to massage real hard so that the milk will got flow.. when ya breast is damn soft.. meaning its empty. If your breast is damn soft and got a little lump meaning something is not right liao..
 
Spaghetti,

Seriously, if you're totally latching on, I advise you to not pump at all. It confuses your body - ie you body starts producing more .. therefore you need to pump out .. it becomes a vicous cycle ...

My friend thought she still had to pump so she pumped while totally latching on her boy .. end up with mastitis. quite bad.

Juzyounme, ya, you need to sterillize the bottles and pump parts after evey use. better to be safe with newborns
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sam, is it right that we dun pump?? but dun pump my breast feel so heavy!

my breast now super painful!!! I have to sit hunched so that my shirt doesn't touch the nipple..i tink got blister liao
 
emeraldbride,

yes, it is dear .. I have breastfed my 2 previous girls without any pumping.

Initially, your breasts are heavy .. or sometimes engorgeed .. just try to feed your baby .. wake him/her up if need be .. or just hand express a bit to ease your discomfort .. anyway, your body will soon adjust the milk production ... to follow that of baby's demands.

I find pumping a chore and totally not necessary.

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Sam, thanks! I've read the same from bfing support websites as well, but it's good to hear it from a mummy I know.

I'm pumping out once or twice a day now because my dear David for some reason starts becoming very fussy and difficult in the evenings. During this 3, 4 hours, he'll be crying to be latched on almost every minute. The PD said it's colic, and his tummy hurts, so he doesn't know if he's hungry or just uncomfy. Today I experimented and gave him a bottle of EBM during the evening and he actually got through the evening peacefully!
 
Hi gals,
I have delivered my little princess on 14 dec, weight of 2.665kg. Sorry take so long to update. My whole birth process only took about 4 hrs from reaching hospital to birth of baby. I used pethidine for pain relief. No epidurial.
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Midwife gave me one injection on my left thigh which is for contracting the uterus... Then proceeded to take my blood sample for the cord blood donation. Now the spot is blue black!

Here is a pic of my bb girl:
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Emeraldbride, BB is not yet engaged. Doc suggest to induce next week...

I still have light bleeding now. Called the nurse at KKH but was told it may be triggered by the VE, i dun have to head down to hospital if i dun have any contraction pain. Not sure if its the bloody show?? How long will the spotting last?? I really feel scared now coz hubby is on night shift.
 
snowger
remember to post ya gal photo in facebook.. i have problems in seeing images here..

oh.. im abit fed up.. mummies.. which medela dual model is good? other than http://www.firstfewyears.com.sg/warehouse/detail.htm?ProductID=BTF-21 getting sick n tired of e topid 2nd hand pump that i bought. so many faulty like the motor is getting slow.. wired so lose. so angry! n she can tell me rate to me 8/10.. faints. this is like 6/10 to me liao! haiz.. anyway. any recommend? i only wan medela de. =)
 
Hi Aurorin,

Have u set a feeding and sleeping routine for your princess?

Apparently, we are not supposed to keep the baby hungry for too long. they must be placed on a regular 3-hr routine. You may wish to get the book on The New Contented Baby Book by Gina Ford (it's excellent). Can borrow from public library too. it has a very clear feeding routine.

My CL also sets the same 3-hr feeding timing. when my girl gets too hungry, she cried so much and makes latching on tough. So feeding on demand is really bad for baby, i begin to believe. Our routine is as follows:

Just b4 3-hrs, wake baby to feed liquid (she's now on water chestnut as still having jaundice and very heaty in her system.) Then burp her before latching her on.

As my breast milk isn't sufficient, we supplement with Formula milk of 50ml. Gynae just gave me a "more Milk Plus" Supplement by motherlove (2 cap x 3x a day). - if of course, u are facing limited milk flow.

The other thing would be length of nipple - my girl seems to 'dislike my right breast' as it is slightly smaller than the left one. Maternity Nurse suggests pulling the nipple to stretch it for better latch by baby.

Hope the above helps.

(BTW,i haven't tried expressing milk yet and shall do it tomorrow early morning.
 
fabbie... okay!
i will post on my blog instead...
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haven't got time and my CL is nagging me for using computer... say it's bad for eyes... Haha...
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will do soon k?
 
Hi Dee,

CL always let the baby sleep on her side(s). I turn her every hr or every other hr. Seems more protected as now baby at this early weeks has strong Moro Reflexes (jerk alot & can get frightened easily).
 
snowger, congrats, ur darling baby is so sweet. Love her little cherry lips. Aahh.. BB pics nvr fail to cheer me up and boost my morale.
 
Hi Scarletgal,

All the best! Saw Dr Thong today and yes, she's GREAT!

Have she discussed with u on your delivery date? If it's to induce - 'when baby is ripe' - don't worry as she use natural way to induce you - break the mucus plug manually so contraction takes hours to build-up like normal delivery.

All the best!
 
Iemik0 - The shui pao thing doesn't really hurt. I think it's due to the pumping that causes it. So far i only saw 1. Think must be yesterday when increase the speed of the pump and cause my nipple to bleed a little. Haiz.. Maybe i shld really get the PIS to save time pumping.

Fabbie - Ok, will try to massage harder.
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Snowger - Congrats! Ur bb gal has nice, red, sexy lips wor.
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Dear ladies.. long time no posting, only reading.

I am also strugle to make more milk for my boy, seems my breast milk is not sufficient for him. Sigh.. very stress... I want to provide the best for him but I dont think I can.
Now I supplement my boy with FM, at night.
In the morning and afternoon will try to let him latch on.

I pumped also not much, only about 40ml, 15mins both side.
Should I try Fenugrek? To increase the milk supply?

Congrats to mommy who popped.

Snowger.. congrats.. your girl so cute.
 
Xiao Pooh,
Squatting, sitting on floor cross-legged, bending over etc.. i've done it all already. My boy is now only 13d old. But then again, i don't have a confinement nanny so no one to 'nag' me not to do all this. I guess, if you don't feel the pain, it should be ok...? But who knows, i might start regretting all this when i grow old with aches and pains
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ps: no worries about FM. My little boy is on full-FM too and on strict demand-feeding.

circumcision
Any of you ladies did the procedure for your sons yet? My son just got circumcised today at Dr Aziz Clinic and both husband and i were 'invited' to watch. Thankfully, he's been peeing well so far and doesn't cry in pain etc. 7days to go before full recovery...
 
llig,

ya lor ... i also wonder whether we will suffer later on in life for what we're doing now ... ie doing all the things we not supposed to be doing ....
 
Loveangel,
sorry for the late reply..so far the jade seemed ok leh..kind of help leh..i used a red string n tied n juz put it underneath her mattress..didnt put in red pkt..how's ur bb then? ok?

Maureen,
wow..ur bb is socute leh.. i love her lip..
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gill,
okie..thks for sharing with me ya..
 
Esthers,

don't despair. If need to supplement with FM, or u decide to totally go total FM, I think it's fine. My eldest girl was on FM almost since birth (I think I only gave her EBM for abt a month only) .. and she's 9 years old now .. and totally healthy.
 
snowger
remember to post ya gal photo in facebook.. i have problems in seeing images here..

oh.. im abit fed up.. mummies.. which medela dual model is good? other than http://www.firstfewyears.com.sg/warehouse/detail.htm?ProductID=BTF-21 getting sick n tired of e topid 2nd hand pump that i bought. so many faulty like the motor is getting slow.. wired so lose. so angry! n she can tell me rate to me 8/10.. faints. this is like 6/10 to me liao! haiz.. anyway. any recommend? i only wan medela de. =)
 
sam,
yeah, think i betta do that.. time for diaper change also..
hopefully he'll empty both sides!

how long can your bb sleep in one stretch?
will it be a concern if they sleep too long?

tho my bb's 3.32kg but he's smaller compared to his elder bro (3.5kg at birth) in terms of body size.. but this little fella seems to sleep better than his elder bro.. less jerky movement too.. very strange..
 
fabbie,

I think there's something wrong with the forum .. I have been having problems seeing images here for the last few days or so ...

wa the pump u posted the link to .. the PIS, damn ex, man ... $419!!!
 
dee,

She can sometimes sleep for 3 hours at a stretch .. I try to wake her the minute my boobs get that tingly sensation ..

How long is long to you? As long not until 6 hours, should be ok what .. they're sure to get hungry and wake up within 3 hours ...
 
sam,
bb got up on his own instead.. hee..
but he's only done with one side and then happily fall back to sleep.. aiyo..

not sure how long is long coz my #1 could hardly sleep 2 or 3 hours in a stretch when he's few weeks old..


fabbie,
how about the medela electric plus?
curious, why medela pump only leh?
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dee, actually, you're rite ... my #2 and #3 also same ... they could barely sleep for more than an hour each time .. felt like crying. lol.

now, this one .. my #4 .. can sleep for 3 hours at a stretch sometimes. so shiok. feed her .. then she sleep .. till it's time for milk again abt 2 hours or sometimes 3 hours' time.

alamak gill, lucky u ask. i 4got all abt it. Meant to call today ... but I brought my #3 to the pedia today cos she has a bad cough .. and then after that, my #2 had orientation for K1 at Kinderland ... I had to bring all FOUR of my girls on my own ... damn siong. my maid had back pain so stayed at home.
 
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