(2008/10) Oct 2008


<font color="119911">reb,
Nick &amp; Gracia can play by themselves mah but these trials can wait lah. U juz take gd care &amp; rest well after the DC *hugz*</font>
 
JJmom,

What you've extracted is very useful! Dylan's sometimes ok with me leaving the room but once I he caught me peeping in to see if he's alseep, he wants my presence in the room. I've been trying to get out or actually inch out of the room by going nearer and nearer the door and finally out of the room whenever he's facing the other direction 'talking' to his pillow, when I'm lucky, he falls asleep without me being in there. When I'm not lucky, I'll just have to repeat going in and inching out the room!
 
<font color="119911">elch,
i more or less doing the same like u, sometime i even have to hid lower than the cot &amp; crawl out...chiam LOL

me so gng to try the method tonite
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<font color="119911">bigflamingo,
read the link tat busybee posted above
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it's is roughly the method tat i used.

i actually borrowed some books from the library for sleep training but can't really recalled the author's name or the book title
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mayb u would like to go check some out?
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Good luck &amp; jia you together for working towards our dream of kissing our bbs gdnite LOL
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Good Morning Mums,
JJMom, u are a Baby Whisperer fan too? I really think by following E.A.S.Y has helped me and minibee a lot. Now I need to get the baby whisperer for toddlers book!

Sleeping...
JJmom &amp; Elch, I have used this method. Minibee now sleeps on her own. I will tell her good night and go. I have been doing this untill her Daddy retrained her cos he pat and sayang her at night. Luckily I stepped in and put an end to it. Cos I can't be carrying an equivalent to a sack of rice b4 each nap time! So far so good. Don't want to jinx it.... so shall not say anymore!! hahaha
 
Jelly, not everynight is smooth lah, during teething or when we are outside then I have to rock her for a bit, maybe 5 to 10 mins then she will dose off... According to Tracey Hogg, even with rocking and pacifying, put baby down when they are drowsy but not fully asleep then let them dose off themselves. That's what I normally do. The Baby Whisperer method is not as harsh as CIO but also not complete pacifying from parent, this method is in between. I read that being able to fall asleep by themselves is important as it trains their stress tolerance. Maybe u want to try?
 
<font color="119911">busybee,
i really can't rem is it Tracey Hogg or some1 else's book tat i borrowed for sleep training. But i got some of the sleep training ideas from those books
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sama sama, if u go to my FB, u will get to see TOO many video of Nat's daddy 'dancing' his gal to sleep when she is an infant (@_o)''

I stepped in b4 i came back to work &amp; start to sleep train her
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told her daddy if i m the 1 who's gng to do the job everynite then i m the 1 to decide how i want it done...ha
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Woo hoo mommies!

All these self-soothe methods wun work for me cos my mom / mil will auto carry and rock her to bed in the day when am at work. But amazingly at nites, she will roll ard with us in the bed, come sayang n n daddy and then just konk off on her own (with my lullaby in the backgrd). No rocking or carrying.

Hmm.....

FOX Sale - Those going pls share if worth going.
 
busy bee
ic. i am carrying rebby in my ergo everynite... she is resisting to go to slp bcos she is just so active, especially since she had the company of everyone in the evening. it's v scary for me bcos she wldn't slp until i force her to
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<font color="119911">jelly,

like busybee, i also think it's vy impt for bbs to learn to self soothe &amp; build confident.

sleeping is juz the 1st stage tat they learn these since infant
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<font color="119911">ruffles,
our bbs r smarter than we think they r, they really know where/who they can do what they wanna or not
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jjmom
sorry but am trying to relate self soothing to confidence... how does this comes about? there are many sch of thots again on builing confidence using certain methods...
 
Jelly and JJmom, I think self soothe is more related to stress tolerance then confidence. Cos ability to self soothe in a stressful situation ( yes apparently, trying to sleep and not being able to is deemed stressful for the baby), in the long run trains them to handle stress better. But like what Jelly said many schools of thoughts. Since it made sense to me and at the same time makes my job easier, I was sold by this method!! Jelly, it took me about 1 whole week (2 naps and bedtime each day) to retrain her. So maybe u can rope in ur mum and helper to help with the day and you reinforce it at night?
 
<font color="119911">jelly,
it's never too late to start
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&amp; always start by having a fix nitely routine which must have a gd 20~30min of low key activites. We also try to avoid rough play after her dinner onwards.

For me, usually it will b juz me &amp; Nat, gng to her room, drawing up the curtains, change her diaper, wipe down ,pj, on the fan, dim the lights, story, milk feed. All these r her cues tat sleeptime is coming up soon
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jjmom/ busy bee
that is the beauty of hvg ur bubs in their own rm. rebby slps w me so i will turn her in when i know she is slpy and no, her dad plays w her all the time when it is abt bed time! hiaz
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Jelly, Miki sleeps in her cot next to me!! We even watch tv in the room when she is fast asleep. But mostly we watch in the living room and leave her to sleep by herself in the room.
 
<font color="119911">jelly, busybee,

i personally thinks tat for a bb to be able to sleep on their own, needs lots of senses of security.

&amp; when they have tat, they have the confidences to sleep on their own in their own room without having us there.

&amp; all these confidences builded will b trf to their daytime behaviours too.

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busy bee
ic. hmm, i just felt that my home conditions are not v condusive for rebby... i am still thinking if i shd move out of my parents!
 
Busybee,
Just a few weeks back, I managed to kiss Dylan goodnoght and leave the room right infront of him for 2 weeks but I jinxed it after bragging about it in the forum! Hahaha!

JJmom,
I also have a fixed routine for Dylan's bedtime though it's always not a fixed timing. Between 8-8.30pm, I'll bring him to his room, change his diaper and etc, play with him in the playyard for awhile, on his background music, feed him milk and he'll start his own routine of chattering, laughing and tossing himself to sleep after his milk feed.
 
JJmom, oh yes, in that sense definitely. Cos they definitely need to have confidence to be able to sleep on their own in another room. Reason i have not moved her out is cos I am lazy to walk over to the other room should she cry at night (tho she hardly does, only when teething) Think I can't let go, like having her just next to me!! hahaha...

Jelly, I know its hard when more people are involved in how you parent your child.
 
<font color="119911">jelly,
i agreed tat doing the sleep training with non-supportive grandparents ard can b tough &amp; stressful for the mommy
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in my early days of sleep training, we had to avoid sleeping over at inlaws &amp; also rush back home everynite to follow the fix routine.
I also had to endure a few 'blackface' from my inlaws &amp; doubts from my hubby =P</font>
 
mommies
can anyone share w me if there is any discount to visit the zoo? any card promo to stuff like that? am thinking of bringing rebby to zoo this friday...
 
<font color="119911">jelly,

Nope, Nat still don't have tat confidence to sleep by herself without me in the room. She thought i m in the room with her coz i sneak out LOL

M doing it wrong, gng to start undo it tonite
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wish me luck! See? We r still at it (-_-)'', our dream is still far out of sight
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<font color="119911">jelly,
yah...the zoo tix is ex. I have been putting it off, dunno will Nat knows how to appreciate the animals boh? If not, waste my moolah again</font>
 
jjmom
i think rebby will appreciate cos we hv pets at hm and when she watches animal planets, she will be excited over the animals appearing b4 her... so i think it is still worth going... hee... i just wanna keep the cost of adults low :p
 
Jelly - See if you knw someone w zoo corporate card cos its really ex. You havent added the $5 per hd for tram - if taking tram. Plus mineral water there costs $2 per bottle - bYO. But v worthwhile bring Rebby there. She will love it.
 
Ok....just bring more fans for adults and Rebby, water and a change of clothes for her. Will be GREAT FUN!!! BTW-Parking is flat $3.90.
 
<font color="119911">busybee,

any thing to share on the daytime activities?
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Hahaha...coz i only borrowed &amp; read up on sleeping nia =P</font>
 
Morning everyone!
An update on my cry-it-out training...
Last night was A LOT better! I followed the ferber method, which is going in and consoling him (without picking him up) after 2 min, 5 min, then 10 min.

The first night he cried for half an hour, last night only 5 minutes! I peeked in and saw him sitting down looking angry and sad. then after one more minute, he had fallen asleep in that sitting position! Progress! Although my heart still ached a little!

JJmom and busybee, thanks! i read the article. It's good!
 
Morning mummies
Just back from KL and Genting. Hehe...

Wah JJmom,
u arrow me to be secret santa??

Abt X'mas gathering
Jill say her place most prob available. MOst of the expats will go back for the holidays. We will just keep our fingers crossed. Will only know on 19 NOv abt the booking. Mona is not in SG. So her place is out.
 
It's my father in law now that's the problem. He actually scolded my husband saying that's not the way to sleep train babies, and he refused to cooperate for naptimes. So I told him that i will not be bringing baby over until next week when his training is done.
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ruffles
thanks for the tips! yes, i am going to arm myself w loads of happy baby puffs n water... fan, i hv 2! keke... i hope it does not rain, though...
 



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