(2007/03) March 2007 MTBs
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weird how all mummies ask astro not to smack her kid. =p so those who subscribe to caning shd say,"smack harder"?
anyway...
astro
aiyo. heng i not ard. i would be like the uncle u detest!! =S i don't think it's insulting. more like sometimes the kid will listen to a stranger cos he cannot teh with strangers ma. also, from the way u described teng seemed relieved to see the sch, seems like he just hates the journey leh. maybe he dunno how to describe so says he dun like lv? i think try to change a method of cajoling him in the morning. or take a walk b4 catching a cab or something?
anyway...
astro
aiyo. heng i not ard. i would be like the uncle u detest!! =S i don't think it's insulting. more like sometimes the kid will listen to a stranger cos he cannot teh with strangers ma. also, from the way u described teng seemed relieved to see the sch, seems like he just hates the journey leh. maybe he dunno how to describe so says he dun like lv? i think try to change a method of cajoling him in the morning. or take a walk b4 catching a cab or something?
wiky
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Kelley,
we spent about $50/pax for air tickets, $35-$40 each for the van and $4 for cable car. So transport is about $90 each. Hotel was $88 for 2 nights with 2 free breakfast. As for spendings, we spent about $120-150 for 3 days of Theme Park tickets (30% disc. for Worldcard holders), food about $180-$200 for the 3 days for 3-3.5pax in each family. The rest are adhoc spendings. Both Edde and my family spent about 700+RM, Autum spent more, close to 1K RM.
Flight was 40mins, van 1.5hrs, cable car 15mins. You can take the van direct to Genting instead of cable car, will be about 30-40mins.
we spent about $50/pax for air tickets, $35-$40 each for the van and $4 for cable car. So transport is about $90 each. Hotel was $88 for 2 nights with 2 free breakfast. As for spendings, we spent about $120-150 for 3 days of Theme Park tickets (30% disc. for Worldcard holders), food about $180-$200 for the 3 days for 3-3.5pax in each family. The rest are adhoc spendings. Both Edde and my family spent about 700+RM, Autum spent more, close to 1K RM.
Flight was 40mins, van 1.5hrs, cable car 15mins. You can take the van direct to Genting instead of cable car, will be about 30-40mins.
*sigh*.. listless.
i am committing the same error which i tell myself NOT to - smack? can.. to discipline but not due to loss of control..i think i need to reflect on this.. i am disappointed with.. myself..
kelley: yes. he can be so sweet.. so i have always said he is manipulative..
knows how to tug at pple's heartstrings.. not just mine. but to other pple he knows also..
star:i have no idea. cause the moment he reaches the centre.. he is happy! and says byebye to me.. teachers assured me all the time that he fusses only in the morning when i drop him.. then he is happy like a lark the rest of the day. when i picked him up in the evening. he is soo chirpy and says tomorrow he wants to go to LV!, haiz.. give up..
yvonne: it wasn't funny then and there.. i wished i cld be like u to laugh at it.. but i cldn't..
kaexin: yes u are right. i am traumautised more than teng. teng remembers me smakcing his hand if he throws his bowl on the floor (he repeats the gesture on his himself yesterday.. then said 'mama will hit me (smack his own hand) if i throw my bowl'... but he doesn't remember me smacking his face.. which makes me feel even more guilty.. damn..
titu: i dunno. but i really wished to turn and tell them off 'cld u pls move away? your presence is making me feel uncomfortable. does it delight u that my boy is crying?'.. i dunno lah.. i felt it was highly insultive. almost same like how mils/grandmas tryt o interfere in the disciplining of the kids.. it is not funny also..
ya. he is ok with the school.. take a walk? alright. i try.
sian.
huingee: i hope it passes soon too..
i have smacked (on the face) .. grand total of 3 times.. time to end this kind of teaching. it doesn't work.. at least not for me..
i am committing the same error which i tell myself NOT to - smack? can.. to discipline but not due to loss of control..i think i need to reflect on this.. i am disappointed with.. myself..
kelley: yes. he can be so sweet.. so i have always said he is manipulative..
knows how to tug at pple's heartstrings.. not just mine. but to other pple he knows also..
star:i have no idea. cause the moment he reaches the centre.. he is happy! and says byebye to me.. teachers assured me all the time that he fusses only in the morning when i drop him.. then he is happy like a lark the rest of the day. when i picked him up in the evening. he is soo chirpy and says tomorrow he wants to go to LV!, haiz.. give up..
yvonne: it wasn't funny then and there.. i wished i cld be like u to laugh at it.. but i cldn't..
kaexin: yes u are right. i am traumautised more than teng. teng remembers me smakcing his hand if he throws his bowl on the floor (he repeats the gesture on his himself yesterday.. then said 'mama will hit me (smack his own hand) if i throw my bowl'... but he doesn't remember me smacking his face.. which makes me feel even more guilty.. damn..
titu: i dunno. but i really wished to turn and tell them off 'cld u pls move away? your presence is making me feel uncomfortable. does it delight u that my boy is crying?'.. i dunno lah.. i felt it was highly insultive. almost same like how mils/grandmas tryt o interfere in the disciplining of the kids.. it is not funny also..
ya. he is ok with the school.. take a walk? alright. i try.
sian.
huingee: i hope it passes soon too..
i have smacked (on the face) .. grand total of 3 times.. time to end this kind of teaching. it doesn't work.. at least not for me..
wiky
Active Member
Joelle,
hmm ... I'm not into caning or smacking. I'll probably just walk off and see if the kid follows.
YY,
maybe Joelle is right about the journey? Have you ever talk to him and ask him why he will cry before going to school in the morning?
Huingee,
tks for asking.
Yup, ok liao, took out the stitches yesterday but got 2 big ulcers at the tongue, think cos of the friction by the stitches.
hmm ... I'm not into caning or smacking. I'll probably just walk off and see if the kid follows.
YY,
maybe Joelle is right about the journey? Have you ever talk to him and ask him why he will cry before going to school in the morning?
Huingee,
tks for asking.
Astro,
I think Teng still like to go to school. But he just drama drama cry cry every morning. Hope this drama thing will end soon.
His crying also very loud, will easily catch alot of attention. Tell him he is going school with mama. Mama goes to work and he goes to school.
I think Teng still like to go to school. But he just drama drama cry cry every morning. Hope this drama thing will end soon.
His crying also very loud, will easily catch alot of attention. Tell him he is going school with mama. Mama goes to work and he goes to school.
RR: teng used to follow once i moved off. and for a good bulk of the year. i was so proud of myself on being able to do that and him following.. but now. the boy has grown wings in his mind and great strength in his legs S).he runs AWAY from me!
he wants ellie with him at times.. i sense. coz he is unhappy that yh gets to stay at home with ellie but he has to go to lv.. but i cannot ask ellie to pack and go back to philipines becaus eof that right.. teng is highly dependent on ellie.. it was a situation which i forseen (accept or not is another story altogether) the day i decided to get a maid.. but end of the day.. teng has to learn. i am his mama.. ellie is not.. and that he has to follow me. and not ellie, right?
funny enough. at home.. teng sticks to me now. and rejects ellie! this boy is highly unpredictable.. i wish.. i can have .. just one day. when i can peep into his mind and know what the hell he is thinking!!
ur ulcers at the back. doesit help if u apply the watermelon frost?
S).he runs AWAY from me! he wants ellie with him at times.. i sense. coz he is unhappy that yh gets to stay at home with ellie but he has to go to lv.. but i cannot ask ellie to pack and go back to philipines becaus eof that right.. teng is highly dependent on ellie.. it was a situation which i forseen (accept or not is another story altogether) the day i decided to get a maid.. but end of the day.. teng has to learn. i am his mama.. ellie is not.. and that he has to follow me. and not ellie, right?
funny enough. at home.. teng sticks to me now. and rejects ellie! this boy is highly unpredictable.. i wish.. i can have .. just one day. when i can peep into his mind and know what the hell he is thinking!!
ur ulcers at the back. doesit help if u apply the watermelon frost?
huingee: ya.. seriously dunno what's wrong with this boy.. i was telling QQ the other day.. if want to test if the centre;s good or not.. v easy.. just ask teng to go.. If he can go to the school without fuss in the morning,, the centre is good and go for it! the Rayner Diagnostic Test :S
yes. crying SUPEr loud.. can u believe. i can be walking away from lv.. to the main building which is almost like 200 m away. i can still hear him?!
he knows.. the moment i change.. he asked 'u going to work?'.. he starts liao! gosh..
yes. crying SUPEr loud.. can u believe. i can be walking away from lv.. to the main building which is almost like 200 m away. i can still hear him?!
he knows.. the moment i change.. he asked 'u going to work?'.. he starts liao! gosh..
wiky
Active Member
YY, Kaexin,
I agree it's very traumatising for the parents, be it cane or smack. Till now I can still recall the episode that Reyes got caned though she might not even remember it liao. That was why we threw the cane away and stopped smacking altogether and things really did become better.
I agree it's very traumatising for the parents, be it cane or smack. Till now I can still recall the episode that Reyes got caned though she might not even remember it liao. That was why we threw the cane away and stopped smacking altogether and things really did become better.
Joelle: can smack hand, leg but not face ah!
Astro: haha.. gd wat.. my gal.. if i hit.. run n nv come back.. nv say such loving things to me.. hahah
Rr: quite cheap wor.. i thnk also cos u go non peak period ba.. wow..now i wana pysco my hb to go there.. after the sch holiday! Hahaha... sound so fun.. yeah.. must u stare at the budget flight everytime to get cheap flights ah
Astro: haha.. gd wat.. my gal.. if i hit.. run n nv come back.. nv say such loving things to me.. hahah
Rr: quite cheap wor.. i thnk also cos u go non peak period ba.. wow..now i wana pysco my hb to go there.. after the sch holiday! Hahaha... sound so fun.. yeah.. must u stare at the budget flight everytime to get cheap flights ah
wiky
Active Member
YY,
he ran away cos you smacked him mah! If you didn't smack him, kept your cool and just walk away while he cries at the door, you think he'll follow?
Sometimes Reyden will ask for funny things before we go to school (sweets, biscuits, toys or whatnot) and he'll "nua" at the doorstep if we tell him "no". I won't say anything, just open the door and go out. He'll follow but of cos with loud screams and cries as he follows lah but I don't care. I'll wait till he calms down then tell him why we aren't giving him the things.
I don't dare to put watermelon frost cos the ulcers are near the wound area, I don't know if it's ok if the frost gets to the wound. Anyway should get better without the stitches liao.
he ran away cos you smacked him mah! If you didn't smack him, kept your cool and just walk away while he cries at the door, you think he'll follow?
Sometimes Reyden will ask for funny things before we go to school (sweets, biscuits, toys or whatnot) and he'll "nua" at the doorstep if we tell him "no". I won't say anything, just open the door and go out. He'll follow but of cos with loud screams and cries as he follows lah but I don't care. I'll wait till he calms down then tell him why we aren't giving him the things.
I don't dare to put watermelon frost cos the ulcers are near the wound area, I don't know if it's ok if the frost gets to the wound. Anyway should get better without the stitches liao.
wiky
Active Member
Kelley,
ya, cos it was non-peak period so everything was cheaper. Anyway try not to go over weekends else got to queue for all the rides and super crowded, very sian de. Hahaha!! Don't have to stare lah, they have promo almost all the time. But maybe some at odd timings.
Starfruit,
we booked the skyvan online for the to trip then negotiate with the same driver for the return trip. 60RM cheaper.
ya, cos it was non-peak period so everything was cheaper. Anyway try not to go over weekends else got to queue for all the rides and super crowded, very sian de. Hahaha!! Don't have to stare lah, they have promo almost all the time. But maybe some at odd timings.
Starfruit,
we booked the skyvan online for the to trip then negotiate with the same driver for the return trip. 60RM cheaper.
RR: no. he doesn't follow . he moves away. it happened a couple of time liao.. each time is when i refused to give in to his request.. even when i keep my cool. he moves away..
i am beginning to think.. teng not onli looks like me.. he acts like me.. darn stubborn and can be so persistent to get the thing/my way.. haiz.. i wld love to chuckle to see this AMAZING similarity. but somehow.. haiz. can't laugh! :S
near the woound. then better not.. miser does this to his ulcers.. he rinses with listerine.. erm.. going ot hurt i tink but antiseptic.. u wanna try? ouch..
i am beginning to think.. teng not onli looks like me.. he acts like me.. darn stubborn and can be so persistent to get the thing/my way.. haiz.. i wld love to chuckle to see this AMAZING similarity. but somehow.. haiz. can't laugh! :S
near the woound. then better not.. miser does this to his ulcers.. he rinses with listerine.. erm.. going ot hurt i tink but antiseptic.. u wanna try? ouch..
and hor.. Ellie. haiz. she likes to say things like 'ha.. gor gor so funny.. keep crying.. see didi keep smiling'.. coz when teng cries.. yh smiles! i think yh thinks it is so strange how come this gor gor is fussing so badly.. so he literally stares at teng.. and sometimes he smiles! gosh.. ok.. yh doesn't know what he is doing. but ellie shdn't be making such comments.. i dun want to create such an environment when teng is being laughed at for being insecure.. and for giving him the feeling that yh is getting all the attention..
heh. not that i think astro shd smack harder. but i just feel that different styles different ways of teaching. no right or wrong. for eg, i don't suggest to those non-caning mummies that they shd cane their kids when they misbehave. so why is everyone telling astro not to smack teng? maybe i'm oversensitive regarding this. =)
astro
diff ma.. mils will interfere differently. (kinda ask u not to smack.. oops. =x) anyway. try to spend more time 'having fun' with teng during this time when u 2 go to sch together. so he feels it's like ur private secret time. usually they will appreciate such attention right esp those with younger siblings grabbing attention at home. maybe practice a ritual in the morn... take a walk/run a match kinda thing. seth has this 'ritual' of running home after sch daily and i'll pretend to chase him. he enjoys it! try it w teng la.
astro
diff ma.. mils will interfere differently. (kinda ask u not to smack.. oops. =x) anyway. try to spend more time 'having fun' with teng during this time when u 2 go to sch together. so he feels it's like ur private secret time. usually they will appreciate such attention right esp those with younger siblings grabbing attention at home. maybe practice a ritual in the morn... take a walk/run a match kinda thing. seth has this 'ritual' of running home after sch daily and i'll pretend to chase him. he enjoys it! try it w teng la.
titu: ya.. teng seemed to have grown a bit.. not size.. but his mind. he was 'telling yh off' today.. cause i was saying gd morning to yh. and asking him to smile. yh stoning in his pram.. teng came over.. and looked at yh.. and told him 'didi.. say hullo to mama'.. yh never 'co-operates'.. teng got angry at yh leh! he then said to yh 'didi, u must be a good boy. say hullo to mama.. say hullo to me'.. wah liew.. dunno to laugh or to cry..
joelle: i think the 3 mummies who ask astro not to smack are also the mummies who dun cane say well?! felt i need to sa sumthing here as i am one of the mummies that asked astro not to smack. I agree that differnt parents has differnt parenting style and we should not interfere when some one is disciplining their kids. But then again, this is a public forum, by sharing here, there will be definitely be responses (be it positive or negative). We all learn from each other's experiences.
Actually i feel that many of the mummies here feel that its ok to spank, hit hands, bums legs etc but not ok to smack (on the face) which is why we are discouraging this action. I dun think any one will make super big fuss if astro spank teng on the butt or hands!
Thats my thoughts only! dun mean to offend anyone k.
Actually i feel that many of the mummies here feel that its ok to spank, hit hands, bums legs etc but not ok to smack (on the face) which is why we are discouraging this action. I dun think any one will make super big fuss if astro spank teng on the butt or hands!
Thats my thoughts only! dun mean to offend anyone k.
astro
alamak. can ask ellie to stay in the room w rayan when teng leaves for sch? wouldn't the sight of ellie n didi staying home make him more reluctant to go out?! =S
re: butt smacking
i dun cane/smack butts. firstly cos it's not painful. secondly the butt seldom does wrong. i usually smack the offending act/part of body. i feel they r too young to relate a wrong behaviour to smacking butt. if he misbehaves with his hands i smack hand.. with his mouth (eg play saliva/put things in his mouth/scream) i smack the side of his mouth.
alamak. can ask ellie to stay in the room w rayan when teng leaves for sch? wouldn't the sight of ellie n didi staying home make him more reluctant to go out?! =S
re: butt smacking
i dun cane/smack butts. firstly cos it's not painful. secondly the butt seldom does wrong.
i usually smack the offending act/part of body. i feel they r too young to relate a wrong behaviour to smacking butt. if he misbehaves with his hands i smack hand.. with his mouth (eg play saliva/put things in his mouth/scream) i smack the side of his mouth.star
not offended. and precisely it's a public forum i feel the need to respect every parent's style of discipline. i would certainly feel lousy if ppl tell me not to discipline my kid the way i did. i know astro's disciplinary methods is similar to mine in some ways. i oso know she didn't mean to smack teng in the face (cos yes, she's oso the smack-the-offending limp parent). but everyone telling her it's wrong to smack is like rubbing salt in her wounds.
sigh. i sense a debate starting and the ones see my point will neva stand up here. i better go cook lunch.
not offended. and precisely it's a public forum i feel the need to respect every parent's style of discipline. i would certainly feel lousy if ppl tell me not to discipline my kid the way i did. i know astro's disciplinary methods is similar to mine in some ways. i oso know she didn't mean to smack teng in the face (cos yes, she's oso the smack-the-offending limp parent). but everyone telling her it's wrong to smack is like rubbing salt in her wounds.
sigh. i sense a debate starting and the ones see my point will neva stand up here. i better go cook lunch.
alamak, joelle, the way you type your response.. make me feel that I am too kpo and should keep comments to myself leh (not including the rest of the mummies that commented on this cos this is how i feel personally lah).
And your point "sigh. i sense a debate starting and the ones see my point will neva stand up here." - You make me feel like its a bad thing for not agreeing with your viewpoint and you make me feel like i am bullying u (as well as astro) with my comments leh.
i am not offended but i think what is impt is that this is indeed a public forum and what is impt is that that we must all agree to disagree (with all topics posted here). I dun think its our intention to rub salt in Astro's wounds, we may also be trying to comfort her but different ppl interpret it different. These postings are just text and words and again the reader might misinterpret the intent behind the words as well.
Hope you agree with what i type.
And your point "sigh. i sense a debate starting and the ones see my point will neva stand up here." - You make me feel like its a bad thing for not agreeing with your viewpoint and you make me feel like i am bullying u (as well as astro) with my comments leh.
i am not offended but i think what is impt is that this is indeed a public forum and what is impt is that that we must all agree to disagree (with all topics posted here). I dun think its our intention to rub salt in Astro's wounds, we may also be trying to comfort her but different ppl interpret it different. These postings are just text and words and again the reader might misinterpret the intent behind the words as well.
Hope you agree with what i type.
star
sorry. dun mean to make u feel that way. oso don't mean for everyone to agree with my viewpoint. i am comfortable with different viewpoints. just that i know the ones who agree with me are usually 'less vocal' and those who disagrees are the ones who will speak up. so i'll be debating alone. it's certainly not a form of bullying, don't worry.
sorry. dun mean to make u feel that way. oso don't mean for everyone to agree with my viewpoint. i am comfortable with different viewpoints. just that i know the ones who agree with me are usually 'less vocal' and those who disagrees are the ones who will speak up. so i'll be debating alone. it's certainly not a form of bullying, don't worry.
joelle: hehehe, no worries, actually it also seems like i am the only prerson debating with u on this as well.. cos no one seems to agree with what i type so far!.. at least u responded..hehehe.
Dun worry, this is a healthy discussion. Its good that you raise the point that child discipline is a very subjective matter, we definitely should respect each's parent's decision/action on this. but again we being woman and mummy, sure will KPO and add our comments when we see such posting from astro!.. heheh
Dun worry, this is a healthy discussion. Its good that you raise the point that child discipline is a very subjective matter, we definitely should respect each's parent's decision/action on this. but again we being woman and mummy, sure will KPO and add our comments when we see such posting from astro!
.. hehehalamak kelley, cannot tell us to relax.. hahah this relax word, very sensitive when a hot debate is ongoing.. hehehe. this is healthy debate.
actually Joelle, i also dunno why i decided to raise to the challenge and debate with u on this today cos usually, i quite quiet one.. heheh
actually Joelle, i also dunno why i decided to raise to the challenge and debate with u on this today cos usually, i quite quiet one
.. hehehAstro
i wont smack or cane Leia when she refuses to go to school bcos i feel she's not being notti, its pure separation anxiety. i will CANE her when she does something WRONG and something that may HURT herself. Even if I smack her, I wont smack the face, i find it more traumatising than smacking the legs, thighs etc.
how come my gal behave the opposite as Teng? she will be quiet thru-out the car journey. she will not reply when I speak to her but start to sob when we reach the CC.
i wont smack or cane Leia when she refuses to go to school bcos i feel she's not being notti, its pure separation anxiety. i will CANE her when she does something WRONG and something that may HURT herself. Even if I smack her, I wont smack the face, i find it more traumatising than smacking the legs, thighs etc.
how come my gal behave the opposite as Teng? she will be quiet thru-out the car journey. she will not reply when I speak to her but start to sob when we reach the CC.
star
haha. i oso like healthy debates. more fun ma...otherwise forum getting boring with sprees oni.
actually i'm not trying to pick a fight or anything la. just wanting to point out a 'trend' that i noticed recently (meaning not this incident oni). i've been pondering liao...so took the chance to voice out only. so happened u were the one to comment.
cos take for eg pink always says leia is out of hand and she feels helpless. NO ONE here proposes that she canes leia though we have many mummies who cane our kids.
so is it because canning is inhumane and disgraceful? so we are ashamed to encourage it? or because it is politically 'kind' to say that everyone should discourage smacking?
haha. i oso like healthy debates. more fun ma...otherwise forum getting boring with sprees oni.
actually i'm not trying to pick a fight or anything la. just wanting to point out a 'trend' that i noticed recently (meaning not this incident oni). i've been pondering liao...so took the chance to voice out only. so happened u were the one to comment.
cos take for eg pink always says leia is out of hand and she feels helpless. NO ONE here proposes that she canes leia though we have many mummies who cane our kids.
so is it because canning is inhumane and disgraceful? so we are ashamed to encourage it? or because it is politically 'kind' to say that everyone should discourage smacking?
star: ooppsss.. ok.. i should use calm down!
pink: yes.. ashlyn does tt on the way in the car to sch also.. majiam like packin feelings to go sch.. than reach front gate.. say hello to everyone else.. mine is bad.. in the morning when change uniform n step out of the house! hahaha
joelle: or is it cos society and everyone keep saying now adays kids canning no use??
pink: yes.. ashlyn does tt on the way in the car to sch also.. majiam like packin feelings to go sch.. than reach front gate.. say hello to everyone else.. mine is bad.. in the morning when change uniform n step out of the house! hahaha
joelle: or is it cos society and everyone keep saying now adays kids canning no use??
kelley
maybe. or maybe like here, those who dun cane are more vocal and 'proud of it' whereas those who cane are "too busy caning" heh! :X
actually i feel that caning nowadays is different fr the canings of the past. i remember hearing horror stories of how mothers chase their kids round the dining table with a cane and all. most parents who cane now are doing it for specific disciplinary acts and not merely using it to instill fear for all things.
haa...i'm just trying to convince myself (and everyone else) that caning is not shameful! so no need to keep quiet abt it.
maybe. or maybe like here, those who dun cane are more vocal and 'proud of it' whereas those who cane are "too busy caning" heh! :X
actually i feel that caning nowadays is different fr the canings of the past. i remember hearing horror stories of how mothers chase their kids round the dining table with a cane and all. most parents who cane now are doing it for specific disciplinary acts and not merely using it to instill fear for all things.
haa...i'm just trying to convince myself (and everyone else) that caning is not shameful! so no need to keep quiet abt it.
joelle
i didnt know that there are many mummies who cane their kid/s. I always think im 1 of the very few. If they ask me to whack my own kid, its a bit sensitive rite? at most we will share our experience on how we discipline our kid, with that, I can consider which method to adopt.
Kelley
this morning she cried when I hand over over to her non-favourite teacher, she pointed at the teacher and said "I dun want you." faintz...so embarrassing.
i didnt know that there are many mummies who cane their kid/s. I always think im 1 of the very few. If they ask me to whack my own kid, its a bit sensitive rite? at most we will share our experience on how we discipline our kid, with that, I can consider which method to adopt.
Kelley
this morning she cried when I hand over over to her non-favourite teacher, she pointed at the teacher and said "I dun want you." faintz...so embarrassing.
pink
rest assured there are still mummies who cane their kids in this era. i cane seth too when he goes overboard. it's precisely my point here that others don't ask u to whack ur kid cos its sensitive. so why is it not sensitive to tell a mum not to whack?
different kids different methods to 'subdue' them. with a out of control kid, it's really impossible to use ai4 de jiao4 yu4 as compared to a tame kid who throws tantrums once in a while. that's my point la.
rest assured there are still mummies who cane their kids in this era. i cane seth too when he goes overboard. it's precisely my point here that others don't ask u to whack ur kid cos its sensitive. so why is it not sensitive to tell a mum not to whack?
different kids different methods to 'subdue' them. with a out of control kid, it's really impossible to use ai4 de jiao4 yu4 as compared to a tame kid who throws tantrums once in a while. that's my point la.
ok good we have a good healthy participation in this debate now.. previously just me and joelle.
joelle: of cos we cannot tell pink or other parents to wack their kids lah..or cane them.. way too sensitive. asian culture, very polite one. we will only tell ppl not to do it, but we won;t tell them to do it. Am i confusing everyone here?
e.g. i dun feel good if ppl ask me to cane my kids.. cos its my kid, so i should determine the method of discipline.
anyway i dun cane rae, i dun believe she needs to be cane now..cos i have my way to discipline her.. and i DO BELIEVE in this "Spare the rod and spoil the child"!
joelle: of cos we cannot tell pink or other parents to wack their kids lah..or cane them.. way too sensitive. asian culture, very polite one. we will only tell ppl not to do it, but we won;t tell them to do it. Am i confusing everyone here?
e.g. i dun feel good if ppl ask me to cane my kids.. cos its my kid, so i should determine the method of discipline.
anyway i dun cane rae, i dun believe she needs to be cane now..cos i have my way to discipline her.. and i DO BELIEVE in this "Spare the rod and spoil the child"!