(2007/03) March 2007 MTBs

astro....
its a good thing for the kids to be 'spoilt' by us. it just shows how much they are being loved by us. I agree wif you that it will be bad to spoil them a lot. But still babies...i dun know leh...i just feel that no babies would ever be too spoilt by us.

My son also took a long time to stand up..cruising...then walking. I tink he could only walk steadily when he was 14 mths. he didnt crawl at all.

Just remember that we will always be the one who will love them the most. And the ones who will always be there to encourage them. And of coz....we will be the one to scold them when they do things that are of danger to them..and the occasional smack on the hand when the verbal nagging just doesn;t work.

sometimes...being a sahm means that you have to be on call 24/7. i can tell you frankly that its a much more challenging job dan being at work. no off day...no recognition....so many comments from outsiders...saying why kid like this why kid like that. Just follow your instinct. If baby is happy...you are happy. Slower a bit for motor...no worries wan.
 


astro,
that's why i think kids are v smart. only they will bully you. you don't have to worry about bullying them.

so i've started "discipline" now. not as in scolding her or beating her. but sitting her down and explaining things to her. i think she understands a bit leh. even if it's not EVERYthing i say yet
 
SQ: actually only CIO 2 times..first was pacifier dependency.. 2nd was for interrupted lunch nap (Caused by the pacifier dependency indirectly) coz teng can't sleep more than 1 hour and half for his lunch nap.. when he is supposed to sleep more than 2 hour 30 mins.. he will wake up screaming.. at 1 and half hour.. cna't be pacified.. then wide awake.. then dilly dally go back to sleep within half and hour.. then sleep agiain for his late afternoon nap.. he was very irritated through out the day.. GF has some case studies on that.. and this 2nd time CIO was actaully a result of the first CIO.. which 'failed' in the daytime naps.. because my mum was around.. and she lectured and screamed at me nonstop.. "how could u be so heartless to hear ur son cry?!!!"
 
audrey,
you are in early tonight.
either that or i'm late
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astro,
i was wondering how to get rid of the paci also. cos the moment it drops, she wakes up and cry.
we were debating whether to CIO together. or separately. but since it's the wrong zzz association, decided to do it together. as least she doesn't have to cry two different times

sometimes mummies can be a nuisance. my gal CIO till voice hoarse, my mum and granny kept asking me how i can be so heartless. and they make the comment that my husband and i are very heartless parents.

i chose to ignore them else i would have screamed too!
 
SQ, SQ,
earlier i posted that u can come and slap EJ liao.. haha.. cos i think he is turning out to be a spoilt brat. Hmm, and hor, I think I will spoil him leh.. how how how...

Mummies, please pardon me.. but I am guilty of a thought.. all along I always feel that our kids are here for us to spoil! Kekekek... I know that is a very wrong thought. Maybe because I felt quite deprived as a child. Not that my parents don't love me.. but because we were poor, so we don't have much things.. so I always thought that if I have my own kids, I will be indulgent. Hope I am not turning out monsters!!!
 
astro,
i think we have to decide fundamentally why we want to CIO. if it's for us (eg. we are so tired of waking up at night and want to zzz more), then it's difficult for me to justify.

but when it's for the bb (eg. getting good quality zzz, feeling rested so can play well during the day etc), then that's a "good" reason to me. i mean, a bb's job is to eat and zzz and play. if now she can't zzz without me around, how can i trust that she will not develop behavioral problems in future and use crying as a weapon against me?

i can't take tat.

but my mum kept telling me that kids will auto learn one. so depends on yourself lor.

i'm not advocating that mummies CIO, i just finally see the reasoning for CIO. that's all. if we don't discipline them, who will?
 
Audrey: that's why i am so angry with myself.. my head says CIO.. my heart asks me.. is there a need for CIO in this case?

if sleeping.. i know.. can consider.. coz hard to solve ..e ven in the long term.. hence.. i am very angry at myself.. coz i have created this.. indirectly.. without me knowing it..

that;s why i said.. i need to go reflect.. ask myself.. weigh the options. is there a need to CIO him?? when he can walk in 3 mths time??? i am in a dilemma.. undecided..
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SQ: u want to know what miser said again? ok.. let u in.. then u know what a good sparring partner i have..

" Dear dear.. i have always feel that i am at the same level as those PDs lei.. what they told u.. i told u long ago.. why u still need to waste money to get the affirmation and assurance ah??"

then i proceeded to tell him exactly what DR Ong said.. his reply " how come all these PDs keep copying/repeating my words ah? "

have u fainted?
 
autum,
hard to believe that EJ is notti leh. he looks so guai1.

i also think that we should love and "spoil" our kids in a way. i felt "deprived" as a child cos my parents were always focusing on my little brother. and we were poor in the early days.

tat's why i try to give YE whatever i can. i love her more than anything in this world. that's why i owe it to her to help her grow up into a "beautiful" child in terms of personality. but this doesn't mean i can indulge in her bad behavior. if i don't teach her, how will she know what's right and wrong leh?

aiyo, i feel such discussions heavy for the night leh
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autum,
i'm not expecting my kid to be perfect either. cos that won't happen. i just don't wanna "groom" her to be one of those detestable kids we see on the road. what a scary tot
 
today i busy at work. so din get a chance to come here.

Astro. so how? i had the same feling as u after Dr ong's visit. she said tian manipulating and bullying me. sigh! anyway, now we communicate better. so u like Dr ong? chatty enough for u? she smart, cvan guess that you are SAHM. haha!! relax la.... still in time to make teng dun bully u so much.. prepare your STERN and FIRM look. I'm now practising in front of mirror.

pax, star, yeah. i also put more culture and shorten the time. in fact, i stir the culture in small amount of milk (so that even) before i put into the big part.. better texture..
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and hor, dun use choc milk or strawberry la. those are flavouring.. use really chopped strawberry next time.. when our kids are old enough for it. BETTER..
i dunno the chemistry of chocolate/fruits with culture, sure very different B4 OR AFTER the fermentation.

Huajing. veryberry mentioned that there is another batch of cloths coming (cause ON did not ship everything at one go for her this time, she also pek check). maybe your clothes are with her? I have only my 2 tops the other day leh. who else? my side is cleared.

star, no prob about the cheerios. i was just walking at cold storage.. it is too big pack, i will buy one pack before i go back msia.. now when hungee is back then i will get some from her for tian to try try see if she likes.

today i 90% success.. i made tian sleep on her own. though she flips here flips there.. then slept.. after 2 min, she looked at me, extended her arms and wanted me to carry. i just put her arms back. tuck in her blanket and slightly pat for about 10 times. then sleep. hee... happi happi..

Autum. that's wat my mil said too!! she said crawl like a worm and that's it liao. no more on 4. we kept teaching tian to go on 4, but still she go on 4 for 2 seconds, then whole body stuck on the floor liao. dun underestimate them, like this also can crawl quite fast one leh. haha!
 
yeah...parenting is a very heavy topic....
i have seen parents who like boh chup their kids..and the kids turn out alright...
and some who chup in every single matter..dan the kid super duper paikia...
but i believe in giving my kid whatever i can afford...and i will buy watever that i feel that they need(excuse for shopping the old nag would always say)
 
SQ, jia you!! and hope to hear your good news about your CIO again.

we love our kids, and we worried so much for them.. sigh! hope one day they dun forget and make me very sad... sigh!
 
SQ: ^5!..

Autum: just to share with u.. i am neglected as a child.. with a very troubled family bkgd.. but i grew up strong.. and due to the experience i have in teaching.. NT and NA form teachership.. i know.. that children need to be taught.. and then they can feel love.. if they are 'spoilt'.. they wun grow up humble enough to experience the love that is present for them in this world.. i have seen too many such kids.. to develop my 'biasness'..

they say there is no greater love than the mother.. exactly what is the 'greater' love??? define it... i am still pondering over this issue..

SQ: page for bbgirl lah.. then at least another person more to join in this 'heavy ' topic.. then all the parties present here.. will be 'lighter' liao coz the 'heaviness' will shared..
 
SQ,
yeah.. i know we shouldn't spoil our kids la.. of course I don't want him to sha1 ren2 fang4 huo3 or become so bad that he becomes unteacheable.. hiaz.. but I am afraid I will spoil him lor. but I think my rational side is still there la. I am brought up to be a tough and independent person.. so I also want him to be like that la.. but I don't want him to become tough and independent through suffering.. I mean, if he is in a loving and good environment, can still be independent and not because he has suffered and thus force to grow up..

Ok, yah, I think the topic becoming heavy.. and I am not sure if I am making sense here! please ignore me!!
 
audrey,
so did you buy your 3rd or 4th pram already?

QQ,
what blanket you use on tian?
i wanna buy but not sure if will suffocate.
but she zzz in aircon room everytime i'm also worried that she'll be cold leh

erh.. where can i find the idiot proof yogurt recipe? can't see in march blog leh... the commercial ones kept expiring before she can finish eating. maybe i really should make some myself
 
SQ ah, about the yogurt.. u will get hooked of it. its like cake baking, or knitting.. u can try one day when u have good mood.
if not, buy from supermarket also can la, no big deal.. i just find it interesting..
 
Astro: That s the power of a PD. Same thing was said from others, but only that from the PD was taken note of.
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Good that u finally found your fears unfounded. Don t make the same mistake with him learning to walk. Let him do it himself.
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Star: Anna has the bounce and spin zebra leh. She loves it. Her legs still can't touch the ground, so we carry her to sit on it. She is able to bounce on it.

Irin: Yes, it s an extension to the jumperoo..
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QQ: I bot this table so long ago during preggie days. Also din do homework that time. Was shopping and saw a table on offer, just buy first lor. Hmm.. I ll go for one with more activities on the table. More impt to choose one with a proper height if the purpose is to allow baby to pull to stand. Cos anna has another one - the pop and twirl table, that s too low and she can only sit and play it.

Pax: Wear socks and cruise on marble floor... Jo will be able to skate well next time liao.
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Have I answered everyone?
 
autum,
ya. it doesn't have to be tough love all the time. we can give TLC also
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astro,
page for one more person to make her stress?
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although i don't think baby girl is so easily stressed lah. she v steady, remember

QQ,
no more story liao lah. hope this is the end of my CIO saga
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astro,
thks. dun have leh. the recipes in mar blog only got 1 tag. and that's the pasta one.

sleeping bags? supposed to buy another one with audrey. my gal doesn't like zzz bags leh. she will kick and kick when her feet is covered. even when she's zzz. and the zzz bag so restrictive she doesn't like leh
 
BBgirl: good.. u are here.. SQ, can continue heavy topic liao.. BBgirl here to share the load liao.. :p *sigh* bbgirl, i dunno what to say.. so teng is not slow huh. it's his mother who is slow.. oh my..

SQ: yalor.. constantly subjected miser's torture.. why did i marry him in the first place? because i like it that he can 'stumped me into silence'.. though i speak lightning fast.. all he needs to do is to pause,,shoot back one sentence.. which will defeat all my lengthy 'argument'.. i just love such 'thrills'... virgos..!! everyone pls beware of PAz and audrey.. they share the same bday as Miser!!!! heehee.. *winks at pax and audrey*
 
Astro,
I know what you mean.. about being tougher after growing up in a troubled family.. but as I posted above.. I don't want EJ to have to suffer in order to learn to be independent, humble etc.. I believe it can be taught even without suffering.. and that is precisely what all of us are trying to do.. to try and teach our kids good values.. but then sometimes I will feel worried cos I don't really know what is "good"..

I mean, we all know what is good, but how good is good.. you know, the sort of rhetorical questions etc.. this is the worrying side of the Cancerian in me!
 
SQ: not in march blog.. in facebook ah..
no lah. i didn't page BBgirl to make her stress.. i paged her to share the load.. so others wun feel so stressed. she's easy lah.. coz steady mah.. listen one ear in.. the other ear out lor...

hmmm zzzing bag also must 'train' one lei.. :p
 
astro,
facebook? alamak! i've not been there for so long! dun noe how to surf. if i mia, it must be i'm there!

zzz bag also must "train"? forget it then. not worth CIO definitely
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Autum: which brings us back to the same issue.. define 'sufferings'? .. honestly.. i dun think by teaching them to sleep through the night.. or stay put in the high chair and eat.. we are subjecting them to any form of 'suffering'.. imho.. suffering comes when neglected.. when not supported ..not led to the right path when i am obviously heading downhill... like in my case.. and in many of my students.. they are given everything they need.. except love and concern by the pple who should give them the most.. i.e. their parents.. who lacks the 'courage' to teach their kids

how good is good? u posted that before.. only the mother knows best.. noone can judge them.. coz they know their kids best.. of course.. hidden implictly in this statement.. -- u have to be responsible for how ur child turns out to be.. coz u decide him to be so.. can't complain...

oh my.. i sound so offensive.. dun mind me.. just what i feel very naturally. so just type without thinking.. and paraphrasing.. pls dun mind me..

ehh.. worrying side of cancerian ah?? heee.. i fully understand.. :p
 
oh found the yogurt recipe! i surprised myself. thot sure cannot find.

star,
you posted my teething rusks recipe there too! thks a billion! cos i wanna bake another batch but kept putting it off cos i forgot the baking temperature and time!

my gal just dropped two bellamy rusks within 2 mins. and my mum v sayang. she wana wash and recycle. i wanna faint. beta bake my own
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bbgirl. yalor. i think i will look for one STUrdy table with good height for tian. thks for e tips.

autum, slowly la.. my hb told me that i have to be consistent. so we plan to do it next month or in january. now i started learning to adjust my facial expression a bit. i very funny person, i multiple standard and unpredictable (is this aquarius type of personality, astro?). its challenging and interesting for hb, but then hb said no good for tian. i have to write down things that i want to do. then hb will check, then can be more consistent.

next time we put EJ and tian together then let them crawl.
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astro, u asked me if i wanna be your son's in law ah?? think thrice la, i very high standard... haha!!!! later they both bully us how??
 
Astro,
no no, I don't feel offended at all.. in fact, I agree with you perfectly. I am also an advocate of "the kid turns out in a certain way because of the parents". When I say suffering.. I don't mean the "make them sit in high chair" kind. Discipline is definitely needed.. and I think I am not beyond beating/caning!!

The suffering I refer to is the kind of suffering that you went through.. the troubled home kind.. I think i have digressed in my previous posts.. with many thoughts in my head.. I was trying to make a generalisation.. that I think our kids can be taught well, without them having to suffer first, in order to learn. Ok nvm.. think I am digging a deeper hole now.. haha.
 
autum: ya. not beating lah.. think u missed out on my post to evelyn sometimes back.. i discussed with her.. i agreed with her.. spare the rod spoils the child. but i also feel that weilding the rod and striking the child is a total loss of control on the parents part.. something which will stand against them when they are trying to teach the children the values of patience, tolerance.. and and respect..

hmmm. dun think iwant go search archives to post here for u. but having read ur last post.. on kids turning out in a certain way because of the paretns.. i thikn i undrstand what u meant now.. heeheee.. :p

QQ: want try? how u know my standard not high enough? :p no lah.. one person's character cannot be defined by just sun sign alone one.. defintely my 'aggressiveness' doesn't come from me being a 'gentle' piscean. it comes from my Leo.. * ROAR*.. whahahah :p
 
SQ....
hehehe..it will be my 5th actually. Nid to clear two before my hubby will give the go ahead. Have two in car...one at mummy's place...one at home. wanted to get the explory...but hubby say small small nag too fat for it...sure outgrow it very fast wan....so aiming now for the quinny...PINK. Or the phils and teds...very gian to get the double stroller..but dun know if son dun mind no view.

you know what thing to get online from the states arh? My colleague very nice...tell me that i can tong pang sumthing small from the satates when her fren comes over to sg....you are the SQ...got recommendations?
 
SQ, Astro: We have telepathy? Didn't know I was being paged.. Just have the "urge" to log on..
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Autum: I don't think there's one method which suits all babies. You know EJ best becos you conceived him and he's been with you in the most intimate way possible. If you think EJ is more suitable with the soft approach, then be sure that it is best for him.
 
QQ,
yah.. i m not trying to rush.. i think i m in one of my moods tonite.. so thinking of all these issues.. ok, next time we let Tian n EJ have a crawling competition! haha..

Mummies... actually past few days I have been moody.. not bad mood. but more of the pensive and anxious sort.. I m thinking of having a 2nd baby now.. and I think all the emotional trauma of my first preg is back.. sorry to spoil anyone's mood here.. I was crying so much on Saturday.. I think also triggered because I chanced upon the thread that supports mothers who had bad experience (like the lady whose twins died and was in the newspaper recently).
 
reading old posts..
eh hope, so i think constance likes to eat with adults (monkey see monkey do la) and she dun like nua nua food liao. she likes textured food like tian. i give tian ublended porridge now. also all puree not really puree.. got texture one. sometimes finer sometimes coarser. u try give constance white bread? tian likes it.

pax, jo can cruise with her socks on! steady... tian cannot yet. but she can hold to stand while balancing herself on uneven surfaces (tilam, bolster, cushions.. she just trying herself to balance... (of course whild holding)

kelley... now u rest well hor. my mil said if u rest well well, eat well well. then bb easy to grow well next time.. if not enough nutrients next time hard to take care then jialat... now its time to nurture your 2nd one.
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audrey,
i thot your advice is to always get bags?
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baby girl,
telepathy? haven't had that with someone for quite some time liao
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autum,
you are a sentimental person for sure
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bbgirl: haha..

autum: wah.. so moody ah? so emotional.. cancerian :p sometimes i think i am hard as stone. i dun really cry as much as i did when i was young.. now pragmatic tarus,, and rational aquarius and libra has taken over..

*pat pat*.. all these negative experience.. teachs us to be strong.. ehh.. EJ is not ur first preg?

audrey: so many strollers?!!! are u sure u borned onthe same day as miser?! :p
 
audrey,
with two strollers i already feel it's kinda wasted. one kid only one butt how to sit in two strollers at the same time? all cos of vain mummy me
 
How come I'm forever cathing up with the posts.. After I post, got even more to catch up with.. **Panting**

Astro: See lah.. Hahaha... I also say the same as your miser. I already told you Teng doesn't crawl, pull to stand because there's no need for him to do so what.. But u kept thinking there must be something wrong with him.

SQ: I have telepathy with very few people.. My hubby and my best friend.. Very sharp and acute with those 2..
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parenting is not sumthing that can be learnt from books...not one trick/technique works for all.
every baby is special and unique in his/her own way.
a kid can have so many things..and yet at 27yrs old...tell my parents that he feels the least loved(my younger brother) while the other two(me and my kor kor) would say that he is the brat of the house..and he always get his way.

que sara sara...watever will be will be...
the future's not ours to see....que sara sara...wat will be will be...
 
baby girl,
sometimes i will chide my hubby for his lack of telepathy with me. it can land up quite hilarious sometimes. and i will always joke that "wei4! you married for too long ah?!"
 
audrey,
i've never bought tods online before.
i know coach at factory outlet is a sure kill! v shiok to buy
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so cheap that you can buy the whole set: key fob, skinny, wristlet, slingbacks, shoulder bags etc.... you get the idea...
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bbgirl: yalah. go ahead . mock at me lah.. i dun change my nick for no rhyme and reason lei.. u know my nick tonight right??

Audrey!! wah. ur quote hor.. *faster take notebook and copy*.. is that fench? "que sara sara" ?:p
 
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