(2007/03) March 2007 MTBs
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lurvecakes
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pax, oh no. Wad happen?
lurvecakes
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mejo, can ask u something? Do u have any knowledge on negative ion? Does it effect babies and todd? Cos me myself feel very dizzy when it is on. So i told nick to off it. Also i see thing blurry... I search in web, no prove of effects on babies.
HJ,
Its okay. Actually I never said, I never TOLD anyone until now but all the time I'm carrying YT, I always think it is not going to work out. Sometimes I even thought that I'm wishing for a miscarriage because the pregnancy have been unplanned for, unexpected and disruptive to my life. I thought I will miscarry. I thought I will die etc. etc. Luckily I have practically no morning sickness, if not I think my thoughts will spiral into an abyssmal darkness.
It is just stress. Dun worry. Push the thoughts behind you. Don't think negatively. It can affect your well being. When you start to think like that, change the directions of your thoughts. What do you want to do with them after the baby is born? How do you want to introduce your kids to one another? What family activities you want to do at what point of time? Etc.
Its okay. Actually I never said, I never TOLD anyone until now but all the time I'm carrying YT, I always think it is not going to work out. Sometimes I even thought that I'm wishing for a miscarriage because the pregnancy have been unplanned for, unexpected and disruptive to my life. I thought I will miscarry. I thought I will die etc. etc. Luckily I have practically no morning sickness, if not I think my thoughts will spiral into an abyssmal darkness.
It is just stress. Dun worry. Push the thoughts behind you. Don't think negatively. It can affect your well being. When you start to think like that, change the directions of your thoughts. What do you want to do with them after the baby is born? How do you want to introduce your kids to one another? What family activities you want to do at what point of time? Etc.
nanabear911
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kaexin : if above 38.5.. den give brufen.. like star said.. docs advice.. abve den give.. after tat alternate with paracetamol.. and MOST IMPORTANT!! GIVE TIMELY paracetamol.. advised by pax and it WORKED!
HJ : u dun think so much.. u are too stress.. u need to relax a bit
HJ : u dun think so much.. u are too stress.. u need to relax a bit
Yvonne,
Actually I dunno if negative ion is even scientifically proven to help at all! I dunno about effect on babies or adults. I doubt any clinical studies have been done but I could be wrong since I'm just shooting my mouth off without having done any research. In any case, I have utter distrust of anything that produces ozone, ions etc. through UV light shinning on something.
Actually I dunno if negative ion is even scientifically proven to help at all! I dunno about effect on babies or adults. I doubt any clinical studies have been done but I could be wrong since I'm just shooting my mouth off without having done any research. In any case, I have utter distrust of anything that produces ozone, ions etc. through UV light shinning on something.
lurvecakes
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mejo, ok. Hmm, i also don trust all this. The man is mad with all this stuff. And i feel so uncomfortable with it. And sam didn cry when we are back home. I think it worked, but worry the side effect. Hmm, i told him to off it once i m in the car. Cannot stand the drowsiness....
paxeng
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suspect flu. K fever since tue liao. according to michelle, K jus fin 1 round of antibiotics on Monday and was already well. looks like she caught another virus when she was recovering. she called me 8+. told her to monitor, alternating paracetamol and brufen, but temp kept coming back despite the medication. she spoke to dorothy ong. looks like no choice but to go KKH bcos fever 40oC
nanabear911
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omg! Mich.. Take care! Sponge K?
Yvonne,
I have distrust because ozone is toxic! Good for us when it is high up there but bad for us if we sniff in lots. You know that "clean" kind of smell you get after lightning? That's ozone kind of smell. Ozone kills bacteria no doubt, but it can also kill us at high doses~ it is TOXIC.
I have distrust because ozone is toxic! Good for us when it is high up there but bad for us if we sniff in lots. You know that "clean" kind of smell you get after lightning? That's ozone kind of smell. Ozone kills bacteria no doubt, but it can also kill us at high doses~ it is TOXIC.
nanabear911
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yvonne- u mean the thing tat release ion.. Suppose to be good.. And de-odourise?
lurvecakes
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mejo, that is the smell that make me wan to faint. Den i better explain to nick. My god. Breathing toxic! I think he wont listen to me la. Cos, men always think women are stupid. (sorry, no offence, i just feel that wad is in his mind.)
Michelle, take care. Hope k recover soon.
Michelle, take care. Hope k recover soon.
nanabear911
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astro.. In case i dun see u online liao., enjoy ur trip..and take care
lurvecakes
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nana, yes. But i don believe in this world there is something that really will make u better just with this simple ionizer. And i feel very giddy once the thing is on. I feel like dying like that. But nick feel refreshed... Anyway, gonna ask him to throw away. If not, i m not going to sit in that 'IONIZE' car. Lol.
More from wiki,
Consumers
Devices generating high levels of ozone, some of which use ionization, are used to sanitize and deodorize uninhabited buildings, rooms, ductwork, woodsheds, and boats and other vehicles.
In the U.S., air purifiers emitting lower levels of ozone have been sold. This kind of air purifier is sometimes claimed to imitate nature's way of purifying the air[47] without filters and to sanitize both it and household surfaces. The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has declared that there is "evidence to show that at concentrations that do not exceed public health standards, ozone is not effective at removing many odor-causing chemicals" or "viruses, bacteria, mold, or other biological pollutants." Furthermore, its report states that "results of some controlled studies show that concentrations of ozone considerably higher than these [human safety] standards are possible even when a user follows the manufacturer’s operating instructions."[48] The government successfully sued one company in 1995, ordering it to stop repeating health claims without supporting scientific studies.
Consumers
Devices generating high levels of ozone, some of which use ionization, are used to sanitize and deodorize uninhabited buildings, rooms, ductwork, woodsheds, and boats and other vehicles.
In the U.S., air purifiers emitting lower levels of ozone have been sold. This kind of air purifier is sometimes claimed to imitate nature's way of purifying the air[47] without filters and to sanitize both it and household surfaces. The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has declared that there is "evidence to show that at concentrations that do not exceed public health standards, ozone is not effective at removing many odor-causing chemicals" or "viruses, bacteria, mold, or other biological pollutants." Furthermore, its report states that "results of some controlled studies show that concentrations of ozone considerably higher than these [human safety] standards are possible even when a user follows the manufacturer’s operating instructions."[48] The government successfully sued one company in 1995, ordering it to stop repeating health claims without supporting scientific studies.
nanabear911
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yvonne.. My car also have tat thing.. To me nothing lei.. Dunno got kanna cheated in the 1st place.. Haha.,
Will feel giddy? Got smell one meh?
Will feel giddy? Got smell one meh?
lurvecakes
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very tired, have to go sleep. Last night only got 4 hrs of sleep. And this afternoon nap is not enough. Haiz. How i wish i can sleep 24hrs straight to recharge my energy!
Mummies take care. Weather really bad. Bel and sam coughing on and off. Don know is it the haze or going to sick soon.
Mummies take care. Weather really bad. Bel and sam coughing on and off. Don know is it the haze or going to sick soon.
nanabear911
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mejo- omg! I am going to throw .it tomolo!
nanabear911
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yvonne take care.. Nite.
Me also go zzz liao.. Nite all
Me also go zzz liao.. Nite all
lurvecakes
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nana, yes, got smell. Hmm, there is a range, from 3k to 10k don know wad amount of -ve ion produced. But i don believe la, unless u attach a oxygen tank on me, den i will feel refreshed and healthy. Take it off if u worry. For tiff and your family good. No wonder i feel wierd when i sit in your car the last time...
lurvecakes
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mejo, thanks for the info. Going to show him this! Make sure this stupid thing goes into the dustbin.
babylovespink2
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Kaexin: Here.. Not sure if he's referring to cardstocks? Cardstocks are the single-colored papers.
<table border=1><tr><td>Nick</TD><TD>Item </TD><TD>Qty</TD><TD>Price</TD><TD>Total</TD><TD>Total USD</TD><TD>SGD</TD><TD>Units</TD><TD>Total Units</TD><TD>Paid</TD><TD>Top Up</TD><TD>Email</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Michelle</TD><TD>DCWV 8x8 Postbound Album - All Occasion With Glitter</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>5.99</TD><TD>5.99</TD><TD>24.07</TD><TD>37.31</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>27</TD><TD></TD><TD>60.26 </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Mini Scrapbook Kit 6x6 - Celebrate</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>2.99</TD><TD>2.99</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Scrapbook Kit In A Stack 8x8 All Occasion</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>8.99</TD><TD>8.99</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>8</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Disney Accordion Album 6x6 Mickey Mouse Squares</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>3.59</TD><TD>3.59</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Tim Coffey Grand Adhesions Embel - Young Girl</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>2.51</TD><TD>2.51</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></td></tr></table>
<table border=1><tr><td>Nick</TD><TD>Item </TD><TD>Qty</TD><TD>Price</TD><TD>Total</TD><TD>Total USD</TD><TD>SGD</TD><TD>Units</TD><TD>Total Units</TD><TD>Paid</TD><TD>Top Up</TD><TD>Email</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Michelle</TD><TD>DCWV 8x8 Postbound Album - All Occasion With Glitter</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>5.99</TD><TD>5.99</TD><TD>24.07</TD><TD>37.31</TD><TD>10</TD><TD>27</TD><TD></TD><TD>60.26 </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Mini Scrapbook Kit 6x6 - Celebrate</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>2.99</TD><TD>2.99</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Scrapbook Kit In A Stack 8x8 All Occasion</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>8.99</TD><TD>8.99</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>8</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Disney Accordion Album 6x6 Mickey Mouse Squares</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>3.59</TD><TD>3.59</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>4</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD>Tim Coffey Grand Adhesions Embel - Young Girl</TD><TD>1.0</TD><TD>2.51</TD><TD>2.51</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></td></tr></table>
babylovespink2
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Astro: Take care. Don't stress yourself out. Enjoy your trip.
Nana, Kaexin: Re brufen and panadol. This is what a doctor friend taught me. If the child is on and off high-grade fever (38.5 and above) and low-grade fever, then you can rotate between brufen and panadol every 3 hrly ie 3 pm brufen, 6pm panadol, 9pm brufen, 12am panadol etc.. Got it? If brufen is not able to control the temp for 6hrs, and we cannot give in shorter intervals. And sponge/shower the child more often, and hydrate the child throughout the day.
Nana, Kaexin: Re brufen and panadol. This is what a doctor friend taught me. If the child is on and off high-grade fever (38.5 and above) and low-grade fever, then you can rotate between brufen and panadol every 3 hrly ie 3 pm brufen, 6pm panadol, 9pm brufen, 12am panadol etc.. Got it? If brufen is not able to control the temp for 6hrs, and we cannot give in shorter intervals. And sponge/shower the child more often, and hydrate the child throughout the day.
babylovespink2
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HJ: Tell yourself to snap out of the negative thoughts. As Mejo said, it is due to stress and you can tell your mind to think happy thoughts. Besides, in this time and age, medical science is very advanced. Nothing bad will happen ok?
babylovespink2
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Buay tahan this Anna.. Her favourite sentences these 2 days are "Oh I forgot" (drag the "Oh")and "I don't know" (drag the "know")... 
paxeng
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bbmouse
Dorothy Ong taught us to alternate brufen / paracetamol at 4hr interval. any closer interval = overdose. i kena scolding for that. 40oC is scary. Jo also kena in dec. fever tend to peak at nite bcos the body is not active, so heat tend to accumulate.
anyway, i got an update fr michelle. Xray shows phelgm in K's left lung. now waiting for blood test result. sounds like a bad infection
last nite in bed, Jo said "Shark eat you" 3x. at 1st i din get it, till i saw her hand action. ahahaa.. then i taught her to say "鲨鱼咬 JoJo!"
Dorothy Ong taught us to alternate brufen / paracetamol at 4hr interval. any closer interval = overdose. i kena scolding for that. 40oC is scary. Jo also kena in dec. fever tend to peak at nite bcos the body is not active, so heat tend to accumulate.
anyway, i got an update fr michelle. Xray shows phelgm in K's left lung. now waiting for blood test result. sounds like a bad infection
last nite in bed, Jo said "Shark eat you" 3x. at 1st i din get it, till i saw her hand action. ahahaa.. then i taught her to say "鲨鱼咬 JoJo!"
Michelle/bbmouse/pax: michelle, ya 40 better bring to KKH cos once abover 39, chances of getting fits is damn high so need to sponge and bring down the temp immediately.
When rae was having high fever that time, her paracentomol dosage was only 2 ml(prescribed by my regular doc/gp) but at KKH, they gave bufren at 4ml (double the amt( and within 1 hour, temp will go down by 1 degrees. Its takes 1 hr for brufen to take effect and for the temp to go down 1 degree.
What AA say is right, to prevent overdosage to bb, alternate between paracetomol and burfen like what AA say 12noon, paracetomol, 4pm, bufen, 8pm paracetomol and 12 midnite bufen. However, the A&E doc also say bufren and paracetomol is independent one, so meaning as long as each set of medication has a minimal interval of 4 hrs each, its ok. i.e. 12 noon paracetol and next dose 4pm paracetomol. if fever don come down at 2pm, u can give bufen at 2pm and 6pm give bufen again.. so indepent and bb takes 2 kinds of fever med. But i find this way a bit risky leh, the alternating between bufen and paracetomol one is better. i scared overdose.
But bufen has a side effect, it causes gastric so i only give if temp dun come down. I hope i am not confusing anyone here with what i typed.
When rae was having high fever that time, her paracentomol dosage was only 2 ml(prescribed by my regular doc/gp) but at KKH, they gave bufren at 4ml (double the amt( and within 1 hour, temp will go down by 1 degrees. Its takes 1 hr for brufen to take effect and for the temp to go down 1 degree.
What AA say is right, to prevent overdosage to bb, alternate between paracetomol and burfen like what AA say 12noon, paracetomol, 4pm, bufen, 8pm paracetomol and 12 midnite bufen. However, the A&E doc also say bufren and paracetomol is independent one, so meaning as long as each set of medication has a minimal interval of 4 hrs each, its ok. i.e. 12 noon paracetol and next dose 4pm paracetomol. if fever don come down at 2pm, u can give bufen at 2pm and 6pm give bufen again.. so indepent and bb takes 2 kinds of fever med. But i find this way a bit risky leh, the alternating between bufen and paracetomol one is better. i scared overdose.
But bufen has a side effect, it causes gastric so i only give if temp dun come down. I hope i am not confusing anyone here with what i typed.
nanabear911
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morning.. Wats happening? Kids are having fever....
Morning mummies,
Re:Fever,
Brufen can only give 8 hours interval. Hence in between the 4 hours can give paracetomal. Brufen can lower high temp from 39+ to about 38deg.
The paracetomal is to lower the 38+ deg to 37+ degC.
Paracetomal can give 2 hours interval if lower dosage like 2.5 ml instead of 4.
If very high temp like 39.5 deg, go showeer. Take bufen or those bullet kind and also sponge will works.
My quite used to this as my 2 kids got high fever a few times liao.
Kaexin,
Take care, if K ok already? Guess all of you might be sleeping now as went KK wait for blood test long hours.
Re:Fever,
Brufen can only give 8 hours interval. Hence in between the 4 hours can give paracetomal. Brufen can lower high temp from 39+ to about 38deg.
The paracetomal is to lower the 38+ deg to 37+ degC.
Paracetomal can give 2 hours interval if lower dosage like 2.5 ml instead of 4.
If very high temp like 39.5 deg, go showeer. Take bufen or those bullet kind and also sponge will works.
My quite used to this as my 2 kids got high fever a few times liao.
Kaexin,
Take care, if K ok already? Guess all of you might be sleeping now as went KK wait for blood test long hours.
oh everyone is sick?
is there a nasty virus at GUG? cause rae, tian and keira down with fever at the same time.
tian's fever ok le. i gave her paracetamol before sleep, then ok. midnight ok, except that she woke up to pee, then slept again after a while (diaper less, cause she dun want). I just took a risk to let her sleep without diapers. i let her be, i was very tired, i bochap her at all. in the morning, fever came back so give paracetamol again.
i think she has sorethroat, then infected and fever went up.
anyway, she was a crying baby last night, refused to go home with me and kept asking me to go home and bombom. sigh!
din know keira was so serious and went kkh. sigh! aiyo..
is there a nasty virus at GUG? cause rae, tian and keira down with fever at the same time.
tian's fever ok le. i gave her paracetamol before sleep, then ok. midnight ok, except that she woke up to pee, then slept again after a while (diaper less, cause she dun want). I just took a risk to let her sleep without diapers. i let her be, i was very tired, i bochap her at all. in the morning, fever came back so give paracetamol again.
i think she has sorethroat, then infected and fever went up.
anyway, she was a crying baby last night, refused to go home with me and kept asking me to go home and bombom. sigh!
din know keira was so serious and went kkh. sigh! aiyo..
kaexin
hope K will be well soon
Star
pls bring me to the sticker shop this sunday..
GUG mummies
this sunday will be leia's last lesson in GUG, let's take photos, sob sob.
HJ
pls dun think so negatively. be happy mummy, then boy boy will be happy. so have u confirmed his name ???
mummies
leia behaves very weirdly these few days. she's been hugging me like koala bear, i must walk around till she fall asleep, then shift her to the bed. any movement tat wakes her up, she will cry again.
last time, she woke up crying. pointed to the door, so i carried her out to give her water in bottle and carried her back to room. she refused to drink water, then suddenly i saw her having a shock looking at my room door, i quickly pat pat her to calm her. i dun know why she's so scared.
ok my room door, there's a glass panel, so we can see shadow of her boxes containing her clothes, rite outside...hmm hmmm...
hope K will be well soon
Star
pls bring me to the sticker shop this sunday..
GUG mummies
this sunday will be leia's last lesson in GUG, let's take photos, sob sob.
HJ
pls dun think so negatively. be happy mummy, then boy boy will be happy. so have u confirmed his name ???
mummies
leia behaves very weirdly these few days. she's been hugging me like koala bear, i must walk around till she fall asleep, then shift her to the bed. any movement tat wakes her up, she will cry again.
last time, she woke up crying. pointed to the door, so i carried her out to give her water in bottle and carried her back to room. she refused to drink water, then suddenly i saw her having a shock looking at my room door, i quickly pat pat her to calm her. i dun know why she's so scared.
ok my room door, there's a glass panel, so we can see shadow of her boxes containing her clothes, rite outside...hmm hmmm...
babylovespink2
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Pax, Star, Huingee: I thought the interval for brufen is 6hrly? Quite safe to give paracetamol in between brufen lah I feel..
Pax: Haha.. Jo so cute, dream of sharks. Anna dreams of bugs (I think ladybugs). She was counting them with her finger pointing "1, 2, 3, 4". Very strange...
Pax: Haha.. Jo so cute, dream of sharks. Anna dreams of bugs (I think ladybugs). She was counting them with her finger pointing "1, 2, 3, 4". Very strange...
babylovespink2
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Huingee: What is the dosage you give for brufen? Am thinking if the 8hrly interval is meant if the max dosage is given. Cos I remember the PD told us 6hrly..
my hormones are acting now.
i feel that i am irritated by my boss. he is so annoying now. bueh tahan.
AA, maybe there are many type of brufen? or belongs to brufen family? i remember there are quite a few types. normally i will drag to the longest time before i give medicine. unless bobian.
wah, sleepy.
i feel that i am irritated by my boss. he is so annoying now. bueh tahan.
AA, maybe there are many type of brufen? or belongs to brufen family? i remember there are quite a few types. normally i will drag to the longest time before i give medicine. unless bobian.
wah, sleepy.
thanks for all the wishes
good news is that no more fever from 2am. and this mornign at 8am, she is a happy kid once more.
she can walk around the ward and even to the lift lobby. but still dun want to drink milk and only managed to drink some milo and bits of pancake.
the consultant came and saw her at 9am. she is now on drip for antibiotics. xray - left lung got phlegm. blood culture taken, test shows WBC 47.
hence , the A&e Doc recommend admission.
if no more fever in 24hrs, she can most likely discharge on sunday afternoon.
strange thing was, the doc said it pneumo, but she did take the vac leh, but still can get pneumo? guess i gotta check later.
pink,
so fast this sunday last class ??? hmmm.. think this term we miss 3 classes out of 8.
good news is that no more fever from 2am. and this mornign at 8am, she is a happy kid once more.
she can walk around the ward and even to the lift lobby. but still dun want to drink milk and only managed to drink some milo and bits of pancake.
the consultant came and saw her at 9am. she is now on drip for antibiotics. xray - left lung got phlegm. blood culture taken, test shows WBC 47.
hence , the A&e Doc recommend admission.
if no more fever in 24hrs, she can most likely discharge on sunday afternoon.
strange thing was, the doc said it pneumo, but she did take the vac leh, but still can get pneumo? guess i gotta check later.
pink,
so fast this sunday last class ??? hmmm.. think this term we miss 3 classes out of 8.
babylovespink2
New Member
Kaexin: Aiyooh.. Pls take care.. Hope K gets better..
babylovespink2
New Member
Kaexin: There are many strains of Pneumo viruses. The strain the kids are vacinnated against is one of the more common strains..
Did you tell the doc that she's taken the vacinnation?
Did you tell the doc that she's taken the vacinnation?
babylovespink2
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Kaexin: Other than the fever, what other symptoms did K have?