Hi tsf, yes Connie is right. During STIM no tcm, she will only prescribe tcm after ET. About the same as before take 2 days rest 3 days.
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I understand how you feel. Sometimes our backup are unfriendly. They can never understand why we need to do IVF. I had done 2 fresh cycles. The first cycle I used my annual leave, the 2nd cycle I took 3 days of HL and went back to work the day after ET. I believe the nature of the work is more impt, my job is desk bound so it wasn't a challenge to go back to work. However, given your situation I think you need to take Annual or HL in full. Paying cash is painful enough, so you really need to be stress free during this period.
Ignore your boss on the promotion and unappreciated portion cos the are ignorant on what we are going through. Focus on having the little ones first, promotion can come later. I mean if you can conceive successfully, promotion is not as important isn't it? for me, family comes first. Jia you tsf!
I totally second what jkoh has said. Planning for family is more important than promotion. Sadly we need this job to pay for our IVFs. Hence we have to work around this problem. Yup good to inform yr single lady boss (btw they dont understand becos they r not going through this) way ahead of yr plans. Ignore whatever negatives comes yr way. You need to be stress free. Its good to inform yr other colleauges of the IVF journey you are embarking to get their understanding. So that they can also cover you.. If possible you may wana discuss briefly with yr HR colleagues about your rights. So that you have facts to place in front of yr boss whenever she confronts you like this.
By right we shd take the full HL to rest our body mind and soul. We are paying so much we shd also do our due diligence by resting very well. But in our current work situation, sad to say we cant take full HL. But do try to take longer HL for yr IVF cycle.
For my case, i took the full HL (BFN btw due to various other egg issues). I need to take more HL this year which i've already alerted both my lady and man bosses both who are married. But i was told to bring laptop home so that i can attend to urgent work matters from home. Which i thought was reasonable. Understand your work nature you need to be present at work. But check with yr HR if you cld make arrangement to work from home and attend to less urgent works.
By right we shd take the full HL to rest our body mind and soul. We are paying so much we shd also do our due diligence by resting very well. But in our current work situation, sad to say we cant take full HL. But do try to take longer HL for yr IVF cycle.
For my case, i took the full HL (BFN btw due to various other egg issues). I need to take more HL this year which i've already alerted both my lady and man bosses both who are married. But i was told to bring laptop home so that i can attend to urgent work matters from home. Which i thought was reasonable. Understand your work nature you need to be present at work. But check with yr HR if you cld make arrangement to work from home and attend to less urgent works.
TSB will not prescribe med to you if she know the dr you are seeing do not want you to take Tcm and clash with the jabs. You may want to check with her on this. If I remember correctly during stim is the same take two days rest two days. Only after ET is take two days rest one day.
People who have not gone through ivf will not understand the difficulty and inconvenience. One or two time HL office can still accommodate but once you exceed their patient wear off and I can't blame them too. After all who won't want a committed employee. I also took few HL for my first two cycles and for my MC. Subsequently I try to take my own leave plus two or three days mc to make up for it.
Frankly no need so many days HL. My last BFP cycle I went back to work after few days annual leave and my job require plenty of walking and carrying stuff too. I tried to carry piece by piece so as not to load myself and everything I do in slow motion. My suggestion is if you can then take your own leave. When colleague ask i just said I go short trip. Taking annual leave n mc sounds better than taking HL to bosses lah. That's how I feel.
tsf0205
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I wish I can work from home but my job nature cannot. Most must be done on site or online....
Promotion matters to me because of the $$$. Need the $$$ to continue the expensive IVF journies.... I have done 4 cycles, Gg for the 5th and dunno how many more I can afford for a little one of my own...
Promotion matters to me because of the $$$. Need the $$$ to continue the expensive IVF journies.... I have done 4 cycles, Gg for the 5th and dunno how many more I can afford for a little one of my own...
cherylng
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Hihi, I continued with the heat lamp during stimm & after OR. But stopped acupuncture after ET. Maybe u can ask your sinseh for advice...Hi sisters, want to double confirm if it is safe to continue with acupuncture when starting to stim? Will the heat lamp be too hot for the tummy area? Thanks in advance
Shootingforthestars
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Hi ladies... I just did my ET and went to pee right after the procedure coz my bladder was so full. Now kinda worried if it's gonna affect...
Im been following this tread since last aug which is also my 1st ivf. Bfn with only 3 eggs and only 1 grade 3 make it for et. Taking dhea n q10 since then. Did my 2nd round ivf in nov with 5 eggs. 1 grade 3 n 1 grade 4 make it for et but only 1 stick. Today im suppose to be 9 weeks but there is no heart beat. Doc suggest that i shd mc natually. Feeling so down now.
Can someone advise me what shd i do now and when is the best time to try 3rd round. Also i read some sister buying q10 online. Where can i find it? Tks.
Can someone advise me what shd i do now and when is the best time to try 3rd round. Also i read some sister buying q10 online. Where can i find it? Tks.
towkayneo
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No effect cos different channelsHi ladies... I just did my ET and went to pee right after the procedure coz my bladder was so full. Now kinda worried if it's gonna affect...
Sparkling_ee
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Hi Cheryl, were u prescribed with Chinese med? I am with Dr Zou, she suggest to acu on the day of ET and continue on after that as well, will it be okay?
Shootingforthestars
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No effect cos different channels
Haha I'm so noob at this... Not sure why but somehow I don't feel so positive about the ET today...
towkayneo
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Why do you feel so...?
Shootingforthestars
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Not sure why too... Perhaps it didn't go as planned so was a bit sian...
Mine was a thaw cycle and doc took 6 to thaw so we were asked to consider whether to put in 1 or 2. After due consideration, both hubby and I decided to go with 2 but this morning, doc told us only 1 viable to put in coz the rest stopped growing. Kinda sad to know that.. Or perhaps I'm just feeling emo...
Hi Celestialbaby, I went to iHerb and find but cant find the one u recommend in 300mg.. Only 100mg & 400mg.
Is this the one?? as it did not mention Ubiquinol form so im need your help.. Please advise.. Thanks a million!!
tsf0205
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How many days you took after ET?
Sparkling_ee
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Hi sisters, just visited kkh, they do not do intralipid at kkh as they feel it is more suitable for those who are underweight. Not sure if I should find Dr Loh to do that, can give me some advice?
Dear Jas, I feel you... I'm sure it must have been a very painful period for both you and DH. Take some time to grieve. I been through 2 times ectopic on both times my DH cried with me before the nurse rolled me in for the surgery. This TTC journey has never been easy. Try to look and think positive! The next round will be better. You probably need 3 mths of rest and do go for a mini confinement if you can. Take care gal!
Also, perhaps you should seek 2nd opinion. I have friends who have same plight with you but when they went for 2nd opinion with Another gynae, the heart beat was detected. And if really after 2nd opinion, there is still no heart beat, You can ask if natural or a D&C would be better for the next round.
I took four days leave after ET but mine is day five transfer.
Sorry to hear. 9 weeks with no heartbeat things are not looking good. You can either wait for another week and go for scan to check if not insert med to remove it. However the longer you wait and if sac continue to grow you may not able to remove it naturally but have to do d&c.
One of my supervisor in ex company is a single lady...she always like to call for meeting at 6+pm, and like to make everything urgent that we need to rush out for her over weekends..so i can understand how it feels.
However eventually i chose family over money. Suffered huge pay cut to switch job, but have a more balanced work life environment. Personally i feel monetary can be recalculated, eg by going subsidized route or save on other areas etc.
For all who have been through 2ww, may I ask what beverages do you take during this period?
It's my first 2ww and i was told cannot drink coffe, tea, chilled drinks, cooling drinks eg barley, dairy eg soya milk or milk etc...i was a avid tea drinker but now really cannot find anything to drink besides plain water
Helppp!!!
It's my first 2ww and i was told cannot drink coffe, tea, chilled drinks, cooling drinks eg barley, dairy eg soya milk or milk etc...i was a avid tea drinker but now really cannot find anything to drink besides plain water
Helppp!!!
cherylng
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Hi Sparkling_ee, i m with eu yan seng & is precribed with tcm in powder form. But once i start stimm, i will stop the tcm but still continue with acupuncture. For my case as my sinseh doesn't specialise in fertility, he's more on the general well being. So I just stop gg for acu after ET. There r some ladies who went for acu before & after ET...
Ensure milkFor all who have been through 2ww, may I ask what beverages do you take during this period?
It's my first 2ww and i was told cannot drink coffe, tea, chilled drinks, cooling drinks eg barley, dairy eg soya milk or milk etc...i was a avid tea drinker but now really cannot find anything to drink besides plain water
Helppp!!!
Red date longan drink
DawnBB
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Ai yoh you poor thing. Cooling and cold or chilled fluids definite no no because can douse vital Yang so much that it's detrimental to TTC efforts in tcm terms.For all who have been through 2ww, may I ask what beverages do you take during this period?
It's my first 2ww and i was told cannot drink coffe, tea, chilled drinks, cooling drinks eg barley, dairy eg soya milk or milk etc...i was a avid tea drinker but now really cannot find anything to drink besides plain water
Helppp!!!
If you drink soya milk or dairy milk, take very moderately because if excessive, it can cause body to develop phlegm-damp constitution which manifests in change in bodily mucus including in our womb & cervix which can become unconducive, as well as in our digestive tracts causing indigestion, intolerance and bowel issues. I do drink milk sometimes but I make from powder form so that it's warm. If you take fresh milk, make sure pasturized type (to prevent risk of listeria bacteria) and put it till room temp before drinking. It's just my habit that I don't take everyday anyway. I would say drink smaller portion if you need daily, otherwise a cup say 3 to 4 times a week is fine. Also make sure to drink at least 2L water daily to keep hydrated.
As for coffee and tea, try to limit as can be strong in caffeine which is durietic and can also hamper absorption of certain vitamins & minerals. Hubby is a religious tea with milk ("Teh") drinker for breakfast and I sometimes just steal a few sips from him while I would not have a cup of tea all to myself. Because really drinking plain water all the time when you have a nice warm breakfast is just not satisfying.
I skipped longan red date tea as I tried in previous cycle and realised it tends to cause excess heat in my body over time and headaches would occur as one of the symptom. Tcm doc advised not everyone is suitable to take so I avoided to be safe.
Oh and yes, I also have my very small cup of organic prune juice (bought from NTUC) daily after dinner to aid bowel movement as progesterone always slows my digestion and I just want to prevent constipation. This is also put out till room temp before drinking. Doc confirmed this is ok to drink moderately.
So that's what I followed as well in my last cycle where I got bfp, so hope this helps.
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pammm
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For all who have been through 2ww, may I ask what beverages do you take during this period?
It's my first 2ww and i was told cannot drink coffe, tea, chilled drinks, cooling drinks eg barley, dairy eg soya milk or milk etc...i was a avid tea drinker but now really cannot find anything to drink besides plain water
Helppp!!!
I avoided cold drinks and caffeinated drinks and because I had mild OHSS, I drank plenty of water, Gatorade and Tomato Juice.
I did drink Ensure milk. I checked with the nurses and they said its fine to drink milk. You can boil your own Longan Red Date tea too
It's a happy "suffering" once you get BFP!For all who have been through 2ww, may I ask what beverages do you take during this period?
It's my first 2ww and i was told cannot drink coffe, tea, chilled drinks, cooling drinks eg barley, dairy eg soya milk or milk etc...i was a avid tea drinker but now really cannot find anything to drink besides plain water
Helppp!!!
Once you get pregnant, the above drinks mentioned are also encouraged to be consumed sparingly. So this is just a warm-up
Melody2512
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Hi ladies, i just started my orgulatran(prevent ovulation jab). I'm on cd4 today, will be starting gonal f this Thu(cd6). I have started eating 2 egg whites daily, drinking red bean soup on alternate day, will start raspberry tea leaf once my menses end, any other recommendation? I scrolled back to many years back in this chat, i saw them mentioning chicken essence. Can i drink chicken essence now or after my menses end? Pls enlighten me! So worry now. Failed one time so-iui..
connie_hopeful
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Does having cough with phlem causes phelm damp constitution too?
Melody2512
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Hi ladies, i just started my orgulatran(prevent ovulation jab). I'm on cd4 today, will be starting gonal f this Thu(cd6). I have started eating 2 egg whites daily, drinking red bean soup on alternate day, will start raspberry tea leaf once my menses end, any other recommendation? I scrolled back to many years back in this chat, i saw them mentioning chicken essence. Can i drink chicken essence now or after my menses end? Pls enlighten me! So worry now. Failed one time so-iui..
DawnBB
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If you catch the flu virus and subsequently develop phlegm, it should recover in due time. That's more of viral infection.
Any symptom that is indicative of a body constitution type is typically more persistent and takes time to re-condition. Usually tcm doc will need to review the tongue and pulse together with symptoms you are feeling to confirm diagnosis. Just cough with phlegm alone can't tell much. Best to consult tcm doc.
Here's just a reference -
http://www.shen-nong.com/eng/lifestyles/food_body_constitutions.html
connie_hopeful
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Thanks dawn. This is interesting info.
I have Been sick for 17 days. It started from sore thraot,become cough n flu. Then astma. Become better on 1 jan. Suppose to start injection ard 7 jan. Some say ok to start. Gp says best to wait till well n skip this cycle. So a bit confused.
DawnBB
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How about your Ivf doc? I think best to take advice of Ivf doc as GP may not be expertise in Ivf treatments?
Beside if you are on medication for your flu or cough etc, should let Ivf doc know too.
Dreamscometrue
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Hi I'm considering to see dr zou. Is a he or she? How's the waiting time like?
margotansc
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Is the scan at 9 weeks your first scan? Or did your previous scan show heartbeat but is not showing now?
Go for a 2nd opinion if need be. Smtimes, it could be the angle the scan is done.
babyloveyou
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Same here @connie_hopeful I've been sick and on antibiotics and meds for almost a week now..will be seeing doc for first scan this fri and should be starting jabs on 10 Jan. Will check with doc this fri if its ok to go ahead this cycle..
tsf0205
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I took it abt 1 week before the start of stim. Ended before stim completed
connie_hopeful
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How thry gauge u are on enough saizen? Or how they gauge when to stop? Via blood test? Is it expensive?
tsf0205
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Dr Loh recommended it, I guess it's based on age and history of past cycles. I completed the vial he gave me. It is expensive.
connie_hopeful
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Hugs..i am on antibiotics type a for 1 week. This type a antibiotic is working then i was put on another antibiotic type b for another week. I am not on medicine now but when i back to work after mc, My astma came back slighlty again today.
Fyi, Ivf doc actuali says ok to proceed when i visit in day 14 in midst of sickness. but i called recently at day 26 when i am slighly better.
as i have missed some items at day 21 as i am too sick to call n go clinic on day 21. So doc not want me to start this cycle. Ask me dun rush as i didnt do e day 21 thgy. although i have taken leave specially to do this 3rd round. Well..dunno wat to say..maybi 天意asking me to rest n take more tcm n supplment for a few more cycles to tiao e body. I dunno
Good luck to you!
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I saw heartbeat on my 1st n 2nd visit. So I know this pregnancy is impossible now. Can I ask how many mg of q10 did u all take?
Celestialbaby
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Hi wonderss, this is what I bought. Now got huge discount some more. Cheaper than when I bought it the last round.Hi Celestialbaby, I went to iHerb and find but cant find the one u recommend in 300mg.. Only 100mg & 400mg.
Is this the one?? as it did not mention Ubiquinol form so im need your help.. Please advise.. Thanks a million!!
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http://sg.m.iherb.com/Healthy-Origi...Free-Non-GMO-Formula-300-mg-60-Softgels/50835
Celestialbaby
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Apologies. I bought the 150 soft gel ones. Same dosage at 300mg. Hmm... price is the same as what I bought before. Previous link was for 60 soft gels no wonder cheaper.
http://sg.m.iherb.com/Healthy-Origi...ree-Non-GMO-Formula-300-mg-150-Softgels/50836
Dreamscometrue
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Hi, what's the day 21 thingy?
Sparkling_ee
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Dr Zou is female. I heard she will be going back to Shanghai from 3/2 to 17/2 for CNY, so do plan your visit to her clinic. There will be relief acupuncturist but I am not sure if they will be as goods her. You need to call to book your slot first, then on your appointment date, you need to take queue no for acupuncture, waiting time around 10-20 mins so far for us. Hope the info helps