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actually the number of cells doesn't determine the days.

2 - 3 days simply means the number of days cultured in the laboratory. Like your embryo is 2 day, so it means your embryo are cultured in the lab for 2 days.

hope it clarifies.
Ah thanks for clarifying!
 
Haha ok will do. If i get preggy. U take care too.
All the best Jeu to your 2ww! Lets pray that we will both get a BFP!
The waiting is hard, for some reason I cannot sleep at night and I twisted my neck cos I was too consious of not sleeping on my tummy.. arrgh.. Also been having weird weird dreams.. very clear vivid dreams that I can still remember all the details.
 
Hi! I did first session of intralipid after ET on same day. Then only when confirmed bfp, then doc ordered to do one more session at week 6 of pregnancy.
How does intralipid work? Where do you do this session at? Isit very expensive? May I also check who is not suitable for intralipid?
 
Hi Ladies.. Im taking Blackmores Conceive Gold, CoQ10 and Folate to prepare for my FET, scheduled in 1-2 mths time. After starting on Conceive Gold, i felt nauseous and bloated, whereas I have no issues with CoQ10 and Folate as I have been taking it for some time alr. Can I check if its advisable to take Conceive Gold at night instead. so then I wont feel like dying at work :(

Some prenatals can make you nauseous. You can try Vitamin Code Raw Prenatals. I took it and find that it doesn't give me nausea.
 
Hi Ladies.. Im taking Blackmores Conceive Gold, CoQ10 and Folate to prepare for my FET, scheduled in 1-2 mths time. After starting on Conceive Gold, i felt nauseous and bloated, whereas I have no issues with CoQ10 and Folate as I have been taking it for some time alr. Can I check if its advisable to take Conceive Gold at night instead. so then I wont feel like dying at work :(

May want to take after meals. I take it after breakfast. OK for me :)
 
How does intralipid work? Where do you do this session at? Isit very expensive? May I also check who is not suitable for intralipid?

It is a measure to counter possibly elevated NK cells (autoimmune disorder) in the womb which abnormally attack the embryo.
I did my intralipid infusion treatments at dr Loh's O&G Specialist Clinic at TMC. Per session of about 100ml is about $200+. I would need to have one session a few days before ET or on same day as ET after ET, then when confirmed bfp, one more session at week 6. I read some patients may require more sessions beyond that depending on doc's advice. However I'm not sure as to which conditions are not suitable for this treatment.

A good read - http://haveababy.com/fertility-information/ivf-authority/unexplained-infertility-and-ivf-failure
 
All the best Jeu to your 2ww! Lets pray that we will both get a BFP!
The waiting is hard, for some reason I cannot sleep at night and I twisted my neck cos I was too consious of not sleeping on my tummy.. arrgh.. Also been having weird weird dreams.. very clear vivid dreams that I can still remember all the details.
That's a pregnancy sign? Dreams... ☺️
 
Is dr zou rates x?
It's about $40 for each session of acupuncture for me. Some say theirs only $30. Perhaps my treatment is different. Then around $10 per day for medication...

I go twice a week for acupuncture plus daily med = approx. $600 per month?

I've been going for around 2.5 months. Starting my first fresh next week.
 
It's about $40 for each session of acupuncture for me. Some say theirs only $30. Perhaps my treatment is different. Then around $10 per day for medication...

I go twice a week for acupuncture plus daily med = approx. $600 per month?

I've been going for around 2.5 months. Starting my first fresh next week.


Bt haf to wait for quite long rite?
 
Wahahaha. 1yrs ago. Mine is long cycle. Drugs. Lucrin + growth hormone + P something + 1more I can't remember. After transfer I do the jab instead of the insert. I felt more ease doing the jab cos I no need to worry whether I insert correctly or need to walk or lie down after the insert.
Wow long cycle! Did doc say why long cycle for u? Your second preg also from long cycle? Did u do short cycle before?
 
Bt haf to wait for quite long rite?
Depends on which day. I'm here right now. Lol. Came for 730pm appointment on time and I'm was next in queue for consultation. But had to wait around 10 min for a bed for acupuncture. So this is a good day.

Fridays are a little packed. Weekends are still okay but also have to wait a bit.

One thing to take note though, is to count the packets of medication dispensed by the uncle at the reception. He blur blur one, gave me wrong med twice already.
 
All the best Jeu to your 2ww! Lets pray that we will both get a BFP!
The waiting is hard, for some reason I cannot sleep at night and I twisted my neck cos I was too consious of not sleeping on my tummy.. arrgh.. Also been having weird weird dreams.. very clear vivid dreams that I can still remember all the details.
Yups all the best to u too :)
 
Hopefully fresh unless hv ohss. My first fresh also was very bloated.

MichNg, does it mean u will need to go back to let doc check if u got ohss or not? I didnt know we can wait to see if we have ohss after OR den decide fresh or freeze all..
 
Hi all, anyone using Crinone? Erm sorry TMI.. but anyone ever got weird discharge that looks like pepper or dirt in white stuff? I'm currently 4dp2dt.
Also if the embryos are 9 - 10 cells are they considered 2 days or 3 days? Embryologist tells me its considered 2 day.
Yeah I called it goat cheese..
 
MichNg, does it mean u will need to go back to let doc check if u got ohss or not? I didnt know we can wait to see if we have ohss after OR den decide fresh or freeze all..
Yes, on Thursday before ET I hv to do a full blood count test. Nurse said it will indicate if I hv ohss.
 
How many sisters were on a few short protocol cycles and changed to long protocol and succeeded? I'm on short protocol 4 cycles. Longest is on a month birth control pill then start stims.
 
It is a measure to counter possibly elevated NK cells (autoimmune disorder) in the womb which abnormally attack the embryo.
I did my intralipid infusion treatments at dr Loh's O&G Specialist Clinic at TMC. Per session of about 100ml is about $200+. I would need to have one session a few days before ET or on same day as ET after ET, then when confirmed bfp, one more session at week 6. I read some patients may require more sessions beyond that depending on doc's advice. However I'm not sure as to which conditions are not suitable for this treatment.

A good read - http://haveababy.com/fertility-information/ivf-authority/unexplained-infertility-and-ivf-failure
Isit very painful? So overall u only hv two sessions right?
 
Hi babe, I gave not done these tests though it was in the plan for my next steps if my last FET failed. Pgd or pgs is not allowed in SG unless you have medical certification from doc qualifying you for the procedure. Maybe someone who has done it in SG can advise. All those I know who gone for pgd did it in Msia or Thailand. For the tests related to reproductive immunology, you may considering checking out Dr Choolani's clinic or Dr Sheila Vasoo. Can google & will find their contacts. Dr Choolani is a high risk pregnancy obgyn and Dr Vasoo has expertise with special interest in reproductive immunology. This field is very specialised and rare so I was prepared that the screening, diagnostic tests and even treatment if needed will be high.
Btw hope you recover well soon. Persevere on k and all the best.

hi girls,

just to share. i will be doing ivf with pgd in nuh soon. the cost is very high!! the nurse working out our finances with us shared that it usually costs an ADDITIONAL 10k or more for 1 fresh ivf with pgd cycle. that works out to about 20-24k per cycle altogether including the original IVF costs. and there are no extra subsidies.

i understand from my dr that it can only be done in 3 public restructured hospitals, sgh, kkh and nuh. it is however, only for those with genetic issues. i have a very rare balanced chromosome issue and suffered two miscarriages in succession, so i insisted my dr run a whole battery of tests for me even though he was trying to assure me that having two miscarriages is quite 'normal'. i did the entire miscarriage profiling and both my husband and i did the chromosome karyotyping, costs us quite a hefty sum, can't rmbr exactly, but i would estimate it as about 3k.

keep the faith everyone!
 
hi girls,

just to share. i will be doing ivf with pgd in nuh soon. the cost is very high!! the nurse working out our finances with us shared that it usually costs an ADDITIONAL 10k or more for 1 fresh ivf with pgd cycle. that works out to about 20-24k per cycle altogether including the original IVF costs. and there are no extra subsidies.

i understand from my dr that it can only be done in 3 public restructured hospitals, sgh, kkh and nuh. it is however, only for those with genetic issues. i have a very rare balanced chromosome issue and suffered two miscarriages in succession, so i insisted my dr run a whole battery of tests for me even though he was trying to assure me that having two miscarriages is quite 'normal'. i did the entire miscarriage profiling and both my husband and i did the chromosome karyotyping, costs us quite a hefty sum, can't rmbr exactly, but i would estimate it as about 3k.

keep the faith everyone!
Hi, the additional 10k is for the pgd testing? Can it be paid using Medisave or need cash?
 
@happynods thanks for sharing. I needed this info. Am sorry to head abt yr mc. How many weeks. Mine was 5 weeks a
Last week and am also waiting for my menses. Only spotting and cramping till now. I want to get it over and done with soon. Am on antibiotics to prevent infection.

A sister told me at tmc pgd was 5k and ivf 20k and she paid 25k. She did karyoting and had issues thus did pgd and now preggy.

I have utilize my 15k ivf grant from govt so believe no more got funding and all shud be hard cash. I am seeing dr choolani to run all the tests needed after period. He estimated 4k. After that will decide whether to do cycle with pgd coz they said if karyotype pass chances are pgd is like a second level check which can be omitted. I thought karyotype fail end of world no more chance to conceive but glad to understand from sisters here that still can do pgd to pick normal embryos.

Let's be positive and jia you.
 
Oh I think sisters mentioned pgd can be done at private but hospital must write to moh. CO one sister did at tmc recently with 5 mc.
 
@happynods thanks for sharing. I needed this info. Am sorry to head abt yr mc. How many weeks. Mine was 5 weeks a
Last week and am also waiting for my menses. Only spotting and cramping till now. I want to get it over and done with soon. Am on antibiotics to prevent infection.

A sister told me at tmc pgd was 5k and ivf 20k and she paid 25k. She did karyoting and had issues thus did pgd and now preggy.

I have utilize my 15k ivf grant from govt so believe no more got funding and all shud be hard cash. I am seeing dr choolani to run all the tests needed after period. He estimated 4k. After that will decide whether to do cycle with pgd coz they said if karyotype pass chances are pgd is like a second level check which can be omitted. I thought karyotype fail end of world no more chance to conceive but glad to understand from sisters here that still can do pgd to pick normal embryos.

Let's be positive and jia you.
Hi just to clarify, how is karyotype done? Is it done on the passed out fetus or can only be done if there's a d&c? For me when I passed out a huge blood clot at Nuh A&E, the report came back only saying it contains fetal tissues but they didn't do any test to see whether got chromosome abnormalities.
 
Hi, the additional 10k is for the pgd testing? Can it be paid using Medisave or need cash?

must be paid in cash!

the amount of medisave and total government grants available for each ivf cycle, up to 3 cycles remains exactly the same. so for those who really need pgd, the cost is exorbitant ):
 
Hello, I did my FET on the 20th June. Had a failed iui and failed fresh cycle ivf previously. Did anyone experience backache, mild cramp and bloated tummy like af during 2 ww? it started on late Monday 27th.
 
@happynods thanks for sharing. I needed this info. Am sorry to head abt yr mc. How many weeks. Mine was 5 weeks a
Last week and am also waiting for my menses. Only spotting and cramping till now. I want to get it over and done with soon. Am on antibiotics to prevent infection.

A sister told me at tmc pgd was 5k and ivf 20k and she paid 25k. She did karyoting and had issues thus did pgd and now preggy.

I have utilize my 15k ivf grant from govt so believe no more got funding and all shud be hard cash. I am seeing dr choolani to run all the tests needed after period. He estimated 4k. After that will decide whether to do cycle with pgd coz they said if karyotype pass chances are pgd is like a second level check which can be omitted. I thought karyotype fail end of world no more chance to conceive but glad to understand from sisters here that still can do pgd to pick normal embryos.

Let's be positive and jia you.

my mc was 8-9 weeks both times. both times saw a heartbeat, but baby still didn't survive.

yes i failed my karyotyping, so i must do pgd now. hope i can at least get one or two embryos with normal chromosomes!
 
Hi just to clarify, how is karyotype done? Is it done on the passed out fetus or can only be done if there's a d&c? For me when I passed out a huge blood clot at Nuh A&E, the report came back only saying it contains fetal tissues but they didn't do any test to see whether got chromosome abnormalities.

i did a karyotyping for myself and my husband, both through blood test. it costs about 1200+ for the both of us. i also did a karyotyping of the fetus the second time i had a mc. i did a d&c so they just collect the fetal tissue for testing, costs 500+. you need to request for a karyotyping of the fetus if you want it done.
 
Sorry to hear tat Mrs Chan. How many weeks did bb stop at. I have already pass out clot and mc at week 5 so am not sure if there is anything to dnc. The tissue haven't expelled. Waiting for bleed but only brown spot till now.
Sad to say... I don't even know when bb stop growing. Never had a chance to see the bb or heartbeat during all my scans. After my 2nd scan (10 jun), Dr Tan is convince that bb stop growing and given me option of natural mc medication or d&c. Then I start bleeding although not heavy but not a good sign. 2 days later pass out clot went to nuh a&e, although sac still there but can't see bb still. Went for another scan on 16 jun, nothing still. Hubby keep asking to go for d&c but I refuse. 3 days pass out a relatively big clot went to kkh 24 hours thinking it is bb but it is not. But sac is in irregular shape. Saw Dr tan on the following day and he confirmed my bb stop growing and schedule for a d&c.. he said it's 2nd mc so suggest to check on the chromosome.
Did u go for any scan? Maybe the clot pass out is not bb?
 
Hi ladies, just to give u some encouragement. I had 2 ectopic pregnancy and both tubes removed. Only left ivf as hope but was told i have low ovarian reserve. I have done 3 fresh n 1 fet under dr Sadahna all failed.. and every time only managed to retrive not more than 5 eggs and 1 or 2 fertilized embryo and the grade of the embryo was always grade 3 or 2. So i went to dr tan hh for my 4th fresh discuss with him tat since i hv low ovarian reserve we go for low dose ivf. With low dose i feel less stress.. maybe not so many injection and during the scan onli 1 follicle was growing and tats the onli 1 retrieved but fortunately the onli 1 got fertilized and we got a first time good grade embryo and now i m in my 24 weeks. So dun give up hope.. as dr sadahna once told me to get donor egg but i nv give up and here i am with my precious baby in my tummy now. U onli need 1 embryo to get pregnant tis is wat dr tan hh told me.
Hi michelle_baby,your story is encouraging. Besides less stress to yourself, Can share if you or hubby did any changes to your diet or go tcm for this bfp?
 
Need to ask the experienced sisters here...
Did anyone experienced having earlier menses due to the endo-scratch? Instead of having ~27days cycle, mine came earlier by two days! When I ask the doctor, he said its normal as it could be due to the scratch.
 
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i did a karyotyping for myself and my husband, both through blood test. it costs about 1200+ for the both of us. i also did a karyotyping of the fetus the second time i had a mc. i did a d&c so they just collect the fetal tissue for testing, costs 500+. you need to request for a karyotyping of the fetus if you want it done.
What's the difference between karyotype and pgd/pgs..
 
Need to ask the experienced sisters here...
Did anyone experienced having earlier menses due to the endo-scratch? Instead of having ~27days cycle, mine came earlier by two days! When I ask the doctor, he said its normal as it could be due to the scratch.
I Guess no cause of alarm.. After all with IVF, we are taking all sorts of hormones.. Most people won't have zun zun cycle anymore
 
I Guess no cause of alarm.. After all with IVF, we are taking all sorts of hormones.. Most people won't have zun zun cycle anymore
yes I agree that the cycle is so messed up.. it's already been 3 months since I have stopped with anything hormonal so I'm little paranoid when I get menses twice in a month!
 

@Mrs Chan00 sorry to hear that. On 20 June I went to see dr loh and he scanned and dated me 5wk2d and can see sac. On 21 Jun abt 2am I had heavy bleed. Then on 21 Jun I went mount E where they did scan and still saw sac and dr also said sac looks irregular shape. Then I came home abt 4pm pass out clot. When I saw Dr tan on 24 jun he did scan and could not find anything. So I believe expelled liao. Dr tan said Wait for natural mc and take antibiotics. Am going for hcg again at dr choolani thu sat. Think the progesterone has to wear off before af.
 

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