IVF/ICSI Support Group

dolly_gal said:
Hope42014, have more faith n dun tik abt bfn before u start the cycle. Relax n stress free to b good for urself mentally n physically. Hands off Google n forum once u in 2ww if not u read too much n too tense n paranoid over every symptoms or no symptoms..
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I totally agree with you, @dolly_gal.. I must also make conscious effort not to log on during my TWW in june!..
 


Hi ladies,

Can i just check, is it ok to just go to kkh to order a bt?

I'm hoping to get another one to be assured that my hcg went up. Dont need doctor's / nurse prescription right? Just take a number n let the nurse know abt my concern will be ok?
 
FluffyChilli said:
Hi ladies,

Can i just check, is it ok to just go to kkh to order a bt?

I'm hoping to get another one to be assured that my hcg went up. Dont need doctor's / nurse prescription right? Just take a number n let the nurse know abt my concern will be ok?
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U need to do twice at 2~3 days apart. To see if it has at least doubled. Random testing cannot tell much
 
FluffyChilli said:
@jklim4642 , i did my 3rd on monday.. Hoping to do another one on coming fri for a peace of mind
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No pt doing on fri. Too many days fr Monday. Coz bhcg will increase but what we wan to see if the trend of increase. An increase without knowing the trend, is meaningless n waste of money.

If u wan to do, do on Thursday n compare to Monday's results.
 
first of all, a hearty congrats to all mtbs! :)

we may hv come to this thread out of diff reasons but ultimately, we all have e same objective which is to see & achieve a successful as well as substainable pregnancy resulting in a live birth.

i had a boy which was stillborn late last yr. my waterbag broke and i delivered him after 7hrs via emergency csect but he took his last few breaths & sadly passed on. T_T i held him in my arms for over 3hrs, it was very traumatizing to say e least. and he is e reason why i wanted to embark on this journey even though family & friends ard me told me we will one day reunite in heaven but im hoping to reunite earlier if god is willing.

and shd our IVF be successful, guess i will always stay anxious thruout e entire pregnancy. unlike most mommies who can heave a sigh of relief after e 1st tri, i can only really do so when i see all is well & healthy with baby AFTER he or she is born. still that is a relatively small price to pay if i can hv our rainbow bb one day.

this is e main reason why my hub was very reluctant when i first propose trying for IVF and he took many mths of "talking to" before he finally relents & agrees to go for our 1st consult next mth. i guess maybe he was worried if e same thing will happen again, im sure he has his own grief to deal with too.

i hv learnt to accept that everything happens for a reason but if its really not meant to be (eg e IVF didnt work out), i guess i can live with this loss & grief though there will always be this empty hole in my heart. i told my hub that we will juz try one fresh cycle & if we are fortunate enough to have frozen embies then one FET too shd e fresh cycle not worked out. and in e event our rainbow bub din come by, at least i know we hv tried & i juz hv to tell myself to be alot more patient till e day we will all meet again...

sorry for this heavy subject, i meant to share my story to encourage others out there to jiayou & not give up. babydust to all
 
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dramaqueenie said:
first of all, a hearty congrats to all mtbs! :)

we may hv come to this thread out of diff reasons but ultimately, we all have e same objective which is to see & achieve a successful as well as substainable pregnancy resulting in a live birth.

i had a boy which was stillborn late last yr. my waterbag broke and i delivered him after 7hrs via emergency csect but he took his last few breaths & sadly passed on. T_T i held him in my arms for over 3hrs, it was very traumatizing to say e least. and he is e reason why i wanted to embark on this journey even though family & friends ard me told me we will one day reunite in heaven but im hoping to reunite earlier if god is willing.

and shd our IVF be successful, guess i will always stay anxious thruout e entire pregnancy. unlike most mommies who can heave a sigh of relief after e 1st tri, i can only really do so when i see all is well & healthy with baby AFTER he or she is born. still that is a relatively small price to pay if i can hv our rainbow bb one day.

this is e main reason why my hub was very reluctant when i first propose trying for IVF and he took many mths of "talking to" before he finally relents & agrees to go for our 1st consult next mth. i guess maybe he was worried if e same thing will happen again, im sure he has his own grief to deal with too.

i hv learnt to accept that everything happens for a reason but if its really not meant to be (eg e IVF didnt work out), i guess i can live with this loss & grief though there will always be this empty hole in my heart. i told my hub that we will juz try one fresh cycle & if we are fortunate enough to have frozen embies then one FET too shd e fresh cycle not worked out. and in e event our rainbow bub din come by, at least i know we hv tried & i juz hv to tell myself to be alot more patient till e day we will all meet again...

sorry for this heavy subject, i meant to share my story to encourage others out there to jiayou & not give up. babydust to all
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My elder daughter from my first fresh cycle passed on and i have to deliver her dead 4 yrs ago. My 2nd try was natural FET and that ended with an early miscarriage. My 3rd try was a 2nd fresh cycle and i was blessed with my 2nd daughter who is 27 months old now.

I fully understand the loss and tremendous pain u went thru. But if u wan a child, u hv to bite the bullet and try again! Men r usu of a few words and they grief internally without expressing. My hubby was like yours, told me that's it and dun try anymore. We women are much stronger and manage pain n grief better. So, we hv to push on. I refused to give up.. only when my bilogocial clock has reached the end line.
 
Jklim, am so sorry to hear u hv bn thru e same heartwrenching loss too.

But kudos n great admiration to u for believing in ur dreams n pursuing them. Am really happy for ur rainbow gal :)

For us, its one or at most 2 tries so we may or may not be blessed w a rainbow child. I will be 39 early next yr so not much time nor luxury to keep trying I guess. I do hv other kids so I hv to accept my fate n move on if its meant to be such, otherwise its not fair to my kids too
 
Dramaqueenie, my live birth was born when i was 39 yrs old. U r more blessed than me. She will b my only child. Read my mail!
 
Can anyone tell me if progynova is safe in pregnancy??cos the pharmacist says that it's harmful to take during pregnancy..


Santhiya
 
ecym said:
Yeah 13dpd3t... 300+
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congrats!! all the best for a safe & smooth delivery :)

just curious, do all e recent bfp mtbs all had TCM & eat stuffs like egg whites, brazil nuts etc etc

anyone who didnt hv any of this n still manage to bfp or who tried like e rest but did not get bfp??

sorry, i didnt mean for it to become a sensitive qn, just wanted to know why

i was looking back a few pages & found the list of things to eat during stim or 2ww, and its a pretty long lists...
 
dramaqueenie said:
congrats!! all the best for a safe & smooth delivery :)

just curious, do all e recent bfp mtbs all had TCM & eat stuffs like egg whites, brazil nuts etc etc

anyone who didnt hv any of this n still manage to bfp or who tried like e rest but did not get bfp??

sorry, i didnt mean for it to become a sensitive qn, just wanted to know why

i was looking back a few pages & found the list of things to eat during stim or 2ww, and its a pretty long lists...
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Thanks dramaqueenie... this cycle i did not eat as much egg white as my previous cycle. Choose the non salted Brazil nuts(raw) heathier..can get it from albert complex 3rd floor
 
dramaqueenie said:
congrats!! all the best for a safe & smooth delivery :)

just curious, do all e recent bfp mtbs all had TCM & eat stuffs like egg whites, brazil nuts etc etc

anyone who didnt hv any of this n still manage to bfp or who tried like e rest but did not get bfp??

sorry, i didnt mean for it to become a sensitive qn, just wanted to know why

i was looking back a few pages & found the list of things to eat during stim or 2ww, and its a pretty long lists...
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Actually it depends on individual. During my tww, I only took immunocal, H20 and tcm medicine cos i was super bloated. Even fell sick and had uti. I couldn't eat much and didn't take Brazil nuts or durians or black chix soup cos body was already heaty. But I did bfp.

Cos it was my 2nd cycle... i was able to just be zen and adopt a 'if succeed then bonus' attitude. Ivf can only do that much, the rest is up to the higher powers. I also didn't do hpt and just waited until bt day.

So no need to stress if you don't follow strictly or unable to find certain items. just go with the flow and hope for the best.
 
@circlecircle, thanks for sharing!

i hv seen this immunocal mentioned a few times while reading up on this thread but what exactly is this? and this is for??

and congrats to u too :) how far along are u now?
 
dramaqueenie said:
congrats!! all the best for a safe & smooth delivery :)

just curious, do all e recent bfp mtbs all had TCM & eat stuffs like egg whites, brazil nuts etc etc

anyone who didnt hv any of this n still manage to bfp or who tried like e rest but did not get bfp??

sorry, i didnt mean for it to become a sensitive qn, just wanted to know why

i was looking back a few pages & found the list of things to eat during stim or 2ww, and its a pretty long lists...
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I only took Brazil nuts,chicken essences and on & off I took kiwi and ensure milk..nothing more than that.. And no TCM..:)


Santhiya
 
haha... i had no idea if i wanted to poas before e day of bt?
on one hand, e suspense of not knowing will prob kill me but on e other hand, not sure if i wanna be dealt w a bfn (if it happens), then again, hearing a bfn on e day itself will seem more final & devaststaing i guess
 
i may wanna see TCM in conjunction with e IVF but not sure if i want to take so many other stuffs... taking all these on a daily or on alt days seem somewhat stressful leh

seems not all mtbs take e exact same stuffs too...

btw, i will be seeing dr tan hh at KKH, will he give folic acid? if so, which stage will it be given? only during stim or even way before?
 
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dramaqueenie said:
@circlecircle, thanks for sharing!

i hv seen this immunocal mentioned a few times while reading up on this thread but what exactly is this? and this is for??

and congrats to u too :) how far along are u now?
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It is a protein drink. Each sachet is about 9gms of protein which is about 1.5-2 egg whites. I really couldn't take egg white anymore. Came to a point that I hated the smell. So I took immunocal 3x a day instead. It was surely easier to stomach.

And when u are so so so bloated, really can't eat too much. Drinking a 1/4 cup of drink was a lot easier to stomach and digest.

I am into my 14 weeks now. So don't give up, don't be too uptight too. Sometimes we eat some food to give us the assurance that we have done what we could. No way to tell if it works a not. If you can't eat or can't find it or not suitable to eat it or don't like it, just don't eat it. No point putting yourself thru the torture. It is also not guaranteed to work.

If you like kiwis and they are readily available, just eat them cos they make a good snack. feel like it, eat 2 today cos appetite is better. feeling bloated again then just drop it off the menu. baby dust to you and may you succeed soon dramaqueenie!
 
Dramaqueenie good luck to your first ivf coming up!

I do all the "right" things and eat all the "right" food but my first ivf ended a bfn. So I don't believe these "rituals" are the main consideration for prepping. There are just too many factors ending in a desired bfp. I suggest just generally eat healthy and hordes of protein which is just general knowledge for building eggies and reducing stim bloat. Everything else eat and do in moderation. The less we think of it, the more it will happen. It happened to me before. So, don't digest too much from the Internet. Ha.
 
redvel said:
Dramaqueenie good luck to your first ivf coming up!

I do all the "right" things and eat all the "right" food but my first ivf ended a bfn. So I don't believe these "rituals" are the main consideration for prepping. There are just too many factors ending in a desired bfp. I suggest just generally eat healthy and hordes of protein which is just general knowledge for building eggies and reducing stim bloat. Everything else eat and do in moderation. The less we think of it, the more it will happen. It happened to me before. So, don't digest too much from the Internet. Ha.
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I agree. I did nothing of these rituals, and I bfp. :S
 
I can only say eating egg whites, durians, brazil nuts, drinking chicken essence, milk, TCM, doing acupuncture, etc will help to increase your chance of BFP but they don't guarantee a BFP at the end of the day.

Just like IVF. Embryologists assist on the fertilisation when they put the egg and sperm together, doctors assist to put the embryos back to your uterus. Almost half of the work has been done if you consider natural conception but with half the work done, it also doesn't guarantee a BFP.
 
faithfullyyours said:
I can only say eating egg whites, durians, brazil nuts, drinking chicken essence, milk, TCM, doing acupuncture, etc will help to increase your chance of BFP but they don't guarantee a BFP at the end of the day.

Just like IVF. Embryologists assist on the fertilisation when they put the egg and sperm together, doctors assist to put the embryos back to your uterus. Almost half of the work has been done if you consider natural conception but with half the work done, it also doesn't guarantee a BFP.
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Agree totally!!!

The only factor that is out of your control lies with luck/ mother nature/ God; whichever u believe in.
 
dramaqueenie said:
i may wanna see TCM in conjunction with e IVF but not sure if i want to take so many other stuffs... taking all these on a daily or on alt days seem somewhat stressful leh

seems not all mtbs take e exact same stuffs too...

btw, i will be seeing dr tan hh at KKH, will he give folic acid? if so, which stage will it be given? only during stim or even way before?
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I think the most important things to take during stim and 2ww are lots of protein and water.

The list of food that i listed previously are my meals. Eg for breakfast: 1 cup of ensure milk with 3 egg whites. They are suppose to replace yr usual fried bee hoon or sandwich.

The others are optional/ extras. I take chinese herbs and red date tea cos sinseh and acupunturist are trying to balance my body. (I hv poor blood circulation which means limited oxygen to the womb). If you are well balance, then these are extras.
 
dramaqueenie said:
haha... i had no idea if i wanted to poas before e day of bt?
on one hand, e suspense of not knowing will prob kill me but on e other hand, not sure if i wanna be dealt w a bfn (if it happens), then again, hearing a bfn on e day itself will seem more final & devaststaing i guess
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It depends on how you want to manage your emotions. I am the type who prefers to know early so that i can hv some time to grief n move on before i get back to work. I poas early in my last failed cycle and did the same for this round where i bfp.

I am glad i did cos i was spotting/ bleeding. Early intervention by the med team may hv helped kept my bfp.
 
dramaqueenie said:
i may wanna see TCM in conjunction with e IVF but not sure if i want to take so many other stuffs... taking all these on a daily or on alt days seem somewhat stressful leh

seems not all mtbs take e exact same stuffs too...

btw, i will be seeing dr tan hh at KKH, will he give folic acid? if so, which stage will it be given? only during stim or even way before?
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@dramaqueenie.. no.. dr tan didnt prescribe for me.. i asked his assistant and she told me can get it off the rack at the pharmacy which i did.. folic acid take early no harm de.. i started taking earlier this month..
 
dramaqueenie said:
Jklim, am so sorry to hear u hv bn thru e same heartwrenching loss too.

But kudos n great admiration to u for believing in ur dreams n pursuing them. Am really happy for ur rainbow gal :)

For us, its one or at most 2 tries so we may or may not be blessed w a rainbow child. I will be 39 early next yr so not much time nor luxury to keep trying I guess. I do hv other kids so I hv to accept my fate n move on if its meant to be such, otherwise its not fair to my kids too
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Be positive.. You're still young.. I'm 39 and only starting my procedure now..
 

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