IVF/ICSI Support Group


Mofmm .. Congrats to u too !!

Some sisters complaining of putting on weight after taking ensure milk .. From wat I know the ensure milk is a meal replacement .. So if we take the normal 3 meals n plus one dose of ensure milk everyday .. Then we r taking 4 meals a day leh .. :p ..
 
Lin: I rem u mention u will plan in Jan, I estimate mine in Feb dpending on when AF would come but CNY happen to be in middle of that month so I don't know Lo. TCM-wise, I only start recently so maybe more will be "reveal" later.

Lakigal: it's norm to have AF haywire and TCM say usually take 3 months to recover but w TCM maybe can recover after a month, I hope so.

ChrisL: all the best to your FET!
 
Psp - Hi! My BT's scheduled on 22 Oct. Hmmm... I do get some on and off mild cramps on the lower left side of my tummy since ET. But past 2 days have been experiencing a brief sudden sharp pain at the top (above belly button region). Also hot flushes which is really irritating because I will break out in sweats even if I'm in air conditioned room
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Other than that, still the same.

ChrisL - Best of luck with your FET!

Mofmm - Congrats on your BFP! Do take care of your health and enjoy the pregnancy journey!

Laki_gal - My AF cycle went haywire too after my last IUI session. Longest was 48, almost drove me crazy because keep getting crazy symptoms. I called up KKH and the nurse told me if my AF still don't arrive by end of the month they will prescribe meds to induce it. But luckily it came on its own after that. So don't worry too much.

Just wondering, are any of you ladies currently visiting TCM doctors to "tune/strengthen your body" before or after doing IVF?
 
chris> my first visit at tcm, they already told me my problems le.. usually if u have any problems they will tell u in the first consultation.

dreambear> glad yr mom responding well. u can still take ensure milk on alternate days, to build up the nutrients in yr body..

sandra> my husband says he is nt happy w/o kids. and if i dont do ivf, he says why i didn do my job as a daughter in law (he's only son).
 
Psp - Day 10.. Another 8 more days to go!

Lin - It's probably easier said than done... But try not to take your hubby's words to heart and put stress on yourself. Sometimes guys are just insensitive and tactless. They will never understand the emotional and physical sh*t we have to go through. Anyway, that's what this support group is for! To support one another in times like this!
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Laki, I know it is easier said than done but try not to stress
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Try not to think so much and enjoy your time now. When your body is relaxed, it will function better and your AF will come soon. It is true that our cycles will go haywire after all the drugs. Try and think, "if you stress, also no use, so don't stress and relax"
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praying for you!!

Bigbear, you have a very good and strong mentality. All the best to you! Big hug!

Mofmm, happy to hear that you have been discharged! 11 days is a long time! OHSS is no fun at all. Give your body as much rest as it needs. I like what your friend said about relationship and kids. I read it to my DH to make sure that he is on the same page.I'm recovering well too. My tummy has down by 10cm in the last 6 days and I've lost 5kg. Feel almost like my old self again.

ChrisL, all the best in your FET!!

Feliko, all the best in your 2ww!!

Lin, agree with Feliko, try not to take your DH's words to heart. Sometimes this is is a growing up process for everyone as this would be the first time for a couple to be faced with this challenged. When we were growing up, we developed a certain idea of how life and things should be. And when things don't go as plan, it will take some time and adjustment. With open communication and some time, I'm confidents everything will be okay
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Hang in there!
 
Lin .. Agreed w feliko n Lilpoyno .. Dnt take it to heart on wat ur hubby said n give urself so much stress .. Every couple tot having kid is part of life but never thought tat the bb journey will b soo tough for some of us .. Have faith n b positive yah .. N hope u succeed on ur first Ivf try
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Mofmm, I just feel empty at times, We do not have major problem though my hd sperm morphology is on the low side. Everything seem ok this round but no one can predict the result. At times I feel ok but there are also times I feel pain in the heart. No matter how is it life still go on...I should be better when I get back to work next week. Wish u have a smooth prenancy ahead :)
 
Hi sisters, I'm new here...

Did my 1st IVF in Sept in KKH, took BT on 5 Oct.
Beta HCG was positive but only at 45 and was asked to repeat test on 8 Oct and HCG went down
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so they stopped the support and asked me to wait for AF to come.

Did review with doctor on 9 Oct and I've been prescribed with DHEA. After reading the sisters' sharings here, I went to the pharmacy to get COQ10 and Concieve Well.

However, I'm not sure what is the dosage of CoQ10 that I should take daily as the pharmacy has 50mg, 75mg and 150mg dosage.

Appreciate your advise. Many thanks
 
dolphin, i am not sure about the dosage but i am taking 100mg per day.

which doc you with? how come the review is kind of immediate after your cycle? ours have to wait almost a month for the review. Mind to share your AMH level and how many eggs you retrieved?
 
Lakigal
i also leh!! I waited in vain for september's one and it didn't come then in early oct it came suddenly..i attributed it to stress and maybe also TCM medication. But then on the other hand, i have noted down some month's period is so long say 35days and above. May i ask if you are seeing dr zou as well? A tip, you can take pineapple to induce AF, cos it worked for me sometimes..but not take too much cos 'liang'


Lin
i understand that..sometimes men's ego has to do a part as well. And my hb similar as he's kind of the 'only' son-cos my BIL is a handicap and thus the only person to have all the burden of carrying on family name is my hb. I once mentioned adoption as the last resort to my hb..much to his annoyance..anyway, try whatever you can 1st, you'll never know..maybe you'll strike when you least expect it. Stay positive ok gal!
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feliko
your symptoms sounds good hehe..yes i TCMed a few times and even bought with me 'bazhen' soup to boil at home myself before this coming FET..why? you tot of doing TCM now? Think not too wise to take TCM now when 2ww..cos considered preggy leh..well after you bfp, like some sisters, you can then opt to get 'an tai yao' if you want and think you should


Thanks psp/chris/feliko/lil ponyo!
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Thanks Prosepina and Sandra!

I'm with Dr Matthew Lau...Any sisters here with him?

When the nurse called me with the BT results on 8 Oct, they said HCG level went down to 25 but as AF still not here, they cannot close the case and I needed to do a review with Dr the next day. They can only close the case if my HCG level was less than 10 and/or if my AF was here.

Dr Lau asked me to wait for up to a month for AF to report... If still didn't report, I have to go back to see him. But AF came the day after my doc review.

My AMH level is 2.1 Is that ok? I had 9 eggs retrieved but only 6 were matured. 3 were fertilized and they said 1 was abnormal so can't be used.

My other 2 embryo left wasn't of very good quality but there weren't any more eggs left so the 2 were transferred as they said some low grade embryo made it so let's give it a shot.

Sandra - Therefore, no snow babies left... :-(

Looking now to improve my egg quality for my next cycle with the supplements.
 
Dolphin, I was with dr.lau for 1st fresh, but I already switched to dr.sadhana so don't get to see dr.lau for post review.

Now kk has double standard, remember they told me only women retrieved less than 6 eggs and low amh is prescribe with DHEA. Ur DHEA is higher than me and number of eggs retrieved also more than me.

Mind to share your fsh level?
 
*wave* back to you joyfully hehe..read about your intention to start your 1st FET too
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you currently taking TCM?
 
Lin: TCM didnt tell me but did comment why the ivf result like that
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She say to try tiao and then see how. For me, I want kids though DH (only son) dont mind not having. Inlaws have been talking about having kids even before we got married like 10years ago :S I am not getting younger so feel stressed.

Dolphin: Our situation quite similar (in turn of egg stats but we had only 1 fertilised) and I am told to be on dhea too. How much of the dhea are u on?
 
Thks ladies for d encouragement, I will try to b positive n not to stress.

Chrisl, juz feel strange coz I only do ER and didn't proceed with ET but still don't knw y cycle bcm haywire. I didn't c any tcm so now like I'm waiting for it to come on it own.
 
Sandra: my AMH is satisfactory, retrieved 9. Dont worry about what others say. I know of someone having one beyond 45. If this is what you want, go for it. I guess people say things because they dont understand what you are going through so dont let them affect you too much. Take care!
 
Bigbear .. Jia you gal .... Pardon me ..Have u tot of adoption .. cos the upcoming fet shld b my last one too !! Haiz .. If I dnt succeed .. I m thinking of adoption though .. My mum also encouraged me to adopt too cos the old pple believe tat having a child will bring another child to the couple ..

Chris.. Sandra n dolphin .. I noe how it feels cos few yrs back nobody ask me when I want to have bb during CNY period .. I guess they all noe tat its beyond me n my hubby control .. At x they will suggest us to try Ivf .. We just laugh it off .. Nobody knows tat we had tried numerous x n Ivf is not a guaranteed success ..
 
Hi Lin, I am sure your husband values you v much and appreciates all you are putting your body through to bear kids with him. It's just important, I think, not to lose perspective of what marriage and a spousal relationship is about.

Hi Psp, no, the doctors didn't comment when I mentioned the brown discharge. They did not ask further questions or do anything about that.

Thank you Sandra, Ravene and Feliko for your kind wishes. Wish you all the best too in this IF journey.

Hi Lil Ponyo, glad you are recovering well too. I am still stuck with so much extra fluid weight gain most of my clothes don't fit. Ran out to buy 2 stretchable pants today else I have to wear a long shirt to cover my jeans which isn't buttoned fully. OHSS is a really terrible thing to have - to gain 12kg in just a few days is so ridiculous and painful. I wish you a most speedy complete recovery.

Hi Bigbear, yup getting back to the routine is helpful, and you can take the time+opportunity to do bonding things with your spouse like traveling to exotic places or adventurous stuff like riding all the rides at Universal Studio etc.
 
Sandra
I'm not with dr Zou.

Dolphin
your AMH is ok , and eggs retrieve not 2 bad .......strange your doc ask u to take DHEA. Anyway, DHEA it will also help to improve the egg quality
 
Lin > I agree with mofmm... ultimately the reason why we choose our partner to get married to is to walk hand in hand together in this life journey. Don't over stress yourself.

Feilko > Rest well for your 2ww.

Dolphin > Your 2.1 amh, is it pmol/L or ng/ml? And what dosage of stimulation were you on? I'm taking blackmores coq10 75mg in addition to prenatal vitamins.

Sandra > Ignore those senseless remarks about age. I guess I'm older than you but not giving up until i've tried all means and not regret it later. I'm seeing a tcm dr, but not with dr zou. How's your amh? If it's within good levels, all the more you should continue trying.

Psp > You still having brown discharge? Hope it had stopped.

Mofmm > Glad to hear that you've been discharged. Rest well and wish you a smooth 9 months.

Ladies, it's time to turn in to catch the golden sleep hours... zzzzzz
 
Chrisl, I don't dare to take Chinese medicine... So didn't see any tcm. Most prob will start to consume the supplements after my AF stop. Did u see tcm when u were in spore?
 
Sandra/ChrisL - Thanks, hopefully that's the case cos I'm a little concerned about the cramps and sharp pains. Other than that, I just try to think positively and see how it goes on the 22nd. ChrisL, actually I've been undergoing TCM with Dr Tan Siew Buoy since my last 2 IUI cycles at the recommendation of DH's colleague to "tune" my body cos all TCM Drs I've seen before all tell me the same thing - Womb is "cold" and not enough "qi". Haizz.. I've stopped all TCM for now just in case. Don't dare to take anything now to overload my body but will probably visit her again after the BT results are out, be it positive or negative.

Sandra - Nowadays in this society it's very common for ladies to conceive in their late 30s or even 40s. Some people just make tactless insensitive remarks without processing it through their brains so best thing is to just ignore them! They might mean it as a harmless joke but don't know that the words really cut deep.

Joyhope - Thanks, will do
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Ravene - My mum also suggested that I try to adopt if really cannot have kids... personally feel it's a really noble thing to do but DH and I don't feel comfortable with the idea yet as of now. We still want to try our chance with IVF and have our own flesh and blood. It might be an option down the road though. We also laugh it off when ppl ask us when's our turn to have kids. Even my close frds thought if do IUI and IVF will definitely be successful and some even thought we will strike twins easily. But sadly that's not the case. Really beyond our control lor.

Good night everyone!
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joyfully
yup i did with dr zou at AMK on the recommendation of some sisters here but due to tight schedule i only managed to see her think 4 times
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feliko
crossing my fingers for you too!
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Good night everyone!
 
Sandra: other than quantity (basically in hope that more can be used), the quality still matter the most. Sometimes what your doc say to you during ET might give an indication if your chance is high. My cycle buddy have gotten twins n the doc said v different things to us individually. I tried my best for a best front when I was still lying there in d theatre right after trsf n hearing d doc, it's not easy. I also understand the doc is just being frank tho it hurts.
 
psp, good luck to you! waiting for your babydust
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i1bb, i also failed this natural cycle. thinking to let go for next cycle. dont want to track ovualation..just let it go!
 
Ravene, If I really can't have my own kids I will live my life without one. At this pt, I do not have such big heart to raise a child not being my own. I also cannot accept using sperm or egg donor. I guess everyone have a different path in life. I tried my best and will give myself somemore times to try naturally and if it still wouldn't work I will just live with it. It is great if u can accept adoption cos this give a homeless child a love from a family. JY wor.
 
Hi ylgoh, Dr Zuo currently is in Korea, she only be back 19/10.
She had asked one of her friend to do accupuncture in her clinic. But I have no idea this need to prearrange 1st
 
Hi Bluenosebear,
Thanks for your information.
Can you give me her clinic number so next week i can call to make appointment.
 
Hi Ylgoh, I bought mine at Giant at parkway under the deluxe nuts area( these are not off the shelves but in containers at a section with other nuts and have to be bought according to weight). Brazil nuts are also sold at all marks and Spencer's but those are the chocolate covered ones.

Hi Ravene, Bigbear, adoption isn't that easy these days - there are many criterion that must be satisfied. Know someone who spent years trying to conceive with numerous IUI and IVF and finally after not succeeding moved to adoption but was turned down due to age
 
Hi Bluenosebear,

I bought mine from Takashimaya. There is a store at the basement where e food court is, selling all kinds of nuts
 
Hi all friends...

Anyone taking COQ10 to aid egg quality? Anyone can advise when should we stop taking? Until ET day only?

Please help and advise.....
 
Hi Prosepina, I don't know my FSH level... They didn't tell me and I never asked as I'm not sure what FSH measures. Next time I'm back at KKH, I'll check what my FSH level is.
Initially Dr Lau didn't ask me to go on DHEA, just say he will up my dosage at next IVF cycle... But maybe I sounded desperate, kept asking him what can I do now before the next cycle.

Chris, I'm asked to start with 25mg twice a day for a week to see if there are any side effects. If all ok, then to go on 25mg 3 x a day. How long have you been on DHEA?

Asiafighter, maybe because I've got no snow babies in my 1st cycle. Dr Lau was saying best if I can have around 15 eggs. That way, hopefully I will be able to have more fertilized and freeze some, just in case.
Ok, since I'm taking Conceive Well which has 60mg of COQ10, I will then take another 50mg more of it daily. Thanks

Sandra, last year I was pregnant too but it didn't make it past 6 weeks so I was thinking this happens again..maybe really really need to improve the egg quality so that embryo will be better grade and will stick and grow. Anyway, will just try my best.

Babybaby, Dr didn't say....just prescribe me 3 months worth of DHEA. So I'm thinking of doing my next cycle in Jan.

JoyHope, I'm not sure if AMH is in pmoI/L or ng/ml. Not too familiar with it. I saw you ladies talking about it so I went to ask the nurse what's my level and she says 2.1. I was on 300 units of Puregon and 75 units of Menopur. Dr say will increase my Puregon next cycle and give me Growth Hormone. Hope my body can take it...
 

hi all,
just curious that during ivf journey that need daily injection. Will it affect your daily work? like not feeling well, etc?
 

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