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pinkieberrie
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Faithfullyyours,
According to my gf, importing from foreign sperm bank is quite easy. You just need to inform the hospital that you be using donor sperm from foreign bank, then after you've liased with the foreign sperm bank and made your choice, done the necessary documentation and payment, they will ship and deliver it to the hospital directly and stored there.
Hope this helps.
According to my gf, importing from foreign sperm bank is quite easy. You just need to inform the hospital that you be using donor sperm from foreign bank, then after you've liased with the foreign sperm bank and made your choice, done the necessary documentation and payment, they will ship and deliver it to the hospital directly and stored there.
Hope this helps.
okidoki
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sade> wic brand of fish oil and grape seed are u taking? u took mainly for ttc also?
chris> thanks.. its weird i asked him abt royal jelly he said he not sure.. yr first cycle was on long protocal? btw, when i see him the last 2 times, he also look kind of disappointed, dunno why.. so wic brand of dhea are u buying??
chris> thanks.. its weird i asked him abt royal jelly he said he not sure.. yr first cycle was on long protocal? btw, when i see him the last 2 times, he also look kind of disappointed, dunno why.. so wic brand of dhea are u buying??
Lin I Just took fish oil n grapeseed for health purpose. Kordel fish oil n gnc grapeseed.
Haha Dr loh must be amazed why u gals asked him abt royal jelly. I din tell nor ask him whether can take or not. Personally I felt that It's trial n error n also It's supplements so OK to take.
Haha Dr loh must be amazed why u gals asked him abt royal jelly. I din tell nor ask him whether can take or not. Personally I felt that It's trial n error n also It's supplements so OK to take.
faithfullyyours
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Dreambear, I did not receive your email.
faithfullyyours
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Bigbear, actually this is the second round of tests that my DH is doing. We are just trying to find out the causes what happened to my DH rather than solutions to how we can become parents because we more or less know what the options are, should the results be the same. Of course we are really really really hoping for a miracle to happen in God's grace.
asiafrighter
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Sade
Yes I do but was thinking maybe go for a fresh cycle. Thanks, wl goggle than decide shd I take royal jelly.
Yes I do but was thinking maybe go for a fresh cycle. Thanks, wl goggle than decide shd I take royal jelly.
Faithfullyyours, as long as both of u have done your best I guess we have to leave the decision to GOD. We may not understand HIS reason or even can't accept it but HE knows what is best for us. Many times I have been asking why cant I conceive like many other woman...I do not have an answer, only GOD know. I decided to do my best and leave the outcome to HIM.
verone_baby
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sade, the royal jelly you took is to mix with water?
reddesk
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Sade: was at friend's place til late and had my niece n nephew over for the night so by the time settling everything, late le. heee. Then because I am charting bbt so have to wake up at usual weekday timing. My first AF is a bit haywire after the unsuccessful cycle.. I think it's the leftover effect of the cycle due to the stimming drugs creating an impression I am ovulating from new follicle development after the ER.
Lin: I guess supplements is like Sade mention.. A trial and error so probably thats why Dr Loh can't say for sure. Based on your doc's recommendation and some self-reading, you can make a more informed choice on deciding if you want to take them or not. Different people respond to different stuff so there probably isn't a "one fit all". We are all trying to see what might work for us and its trial-error process of knowing how our body works for us.
Yes I start on the usual long protocol since everything seems to be normal at the start. What is difficult for me is dealing with new things that came up during the process. It is admittingly more trying in working out the emotions. My advise is be brave and clear-mind as much possible. I have not decide on which DHEA brand but will follow what others have been doing to order from DHEA.com. Will be ordering soon.
Faithfullyours: I am trying to find out about male factor also but the impression I get is ICSI solves it and nothing much can be done except for case of OA (obstructive azoospermia). The current research seems satisfied with using ICSI as the mean to solve poor sperm profile. More have been done to help woman in that sense (my Dh positively pointed out that he cant do anything so at least we can do something about).
Lin: I guess supplements is like Sade mention.. A trial and error so probably thats why Dr Loh can't say for sure. Based on your doc's recommendation and some self-reading, you can make a more informed choice on deciding if you want to take them or not. Different people respond to different stuff so there probably isn't a "one fit all". We are all trying to see what might work for us and its trial-error process of knowing how our body works for us.
Yes I start on the usual long protocol since everything seems to be normal at the start. What is difficult for me is dealing with new things that came up during the process. It is admittingly more trying in working out the emotions. My advise is be brave and clear-mind as much possible. I have not decide on which DHEA brand but will follow what others have been doing to order from DHEA.com. Will be ordering soon.
Faithfullyours: I am trying to find out about male factor also but the impression I get is ICSI solves it and nothing much can be done except for case of OA (obstructive azoospermia). The current research seems satisfied with using ICSI as the mean to solve poor sperm profile. More have been done to help woman in that sense (my Dh positively pointed out that he cant do anything so at least we can do something about).
faithfullyyours
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Chris, our case is azoospermia with very elevated FSH level. The elevated FSH level does not look good at all.
Prosepina Nope. I ate a teaspoon per day. It's rather sweet.
Chris Oh I see. I din do bbt cos too stress over it as my waking up timing is not constant. Haha. Good job that u do bbt.
Ya u r right. Everyone responds differently.
Best is to research before taking any supplements. Cos all along I don't take supplements. Only till I discovered that my amh level is super low then I started to panick. It's so low till no chance.
Chris Oh I see. I din do bbt cos too stress over it as my waking up timing is not constant. Haha. Good job that u do bbt.
Ya u r right. Everyone responds differently.
Best is to research before taking any supplements. Cos all along I don't take supplements. Only till I discovered that my amh level is super low then I started to panick. It's so low till no chance.
asiafrighter
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Sade
What is natural ivf? Sorry if u have already posted it earlier or I have missed out?
What is natural ivf? Sorry if u have already posted it earlier or I have missed out?
Asiafrighter, extract from last night,
I took femara for 5days n then 3 consecutive daily scan n a hcg shot, n then i proceed to ER. Natural ivf means collecting and fertilizing one egg during your normal cycle. No fertility drugs are used except hcg shot to released the egg.
Dr loh played it safe for me by asking me to take femara so that can ovulate more than one.
Maybe chances are higher sin body is not under so much drugs and stress.
He told me can do natural ivf every month and he's an expert in this. V confident man. I like! hehe.
Pro is where got so much money to do every month. If every month have to proceed to ER and ET. Maybe he meant that if that cycle doesn't seem good, then can wait till next cycle to try again. Cos every month, our body reacts differently. and also luck. Do it on your lucky month. Who knows u might strike.
I took femara for 5days n then 3 consecutive daily scan n a hcg shot, n then i proceed to ER. Natural ivf means collecting and fertilizing one egg during your normal cycle. No fertility drugs are used except hcg shot to released the egg.
Dr loh played it safe for me by asking me to take femara so that can ovulate more than one.
Maybe chances are higher sin body is not under so much drugs and stress.
He told me can do natural ivf every month and he's an expert in this. V confident man. I like! hehe.
Pro is where got so much money to do every month. If every month have to proceed to ER and ET. Maybe he meant that if that cycle doesn't seem good, then can wait till next cycle to try again. Cos every month, our body reacts differently. and also luck. Do it on your lucky month. Who knows u might strike.
asiafrighter
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Sade
Appreciate your reply. Well, guess I will have to ask dr Loh abt his view regard to my ivf treatment. Maybe I cannot due to my age. Anyway, wl try to ask him ....xie xie nie
Appreciate your reply. Well, guess I will have to ask dr Loh abt his view regard to my ivf treatment. Maybe I cannot due to my age. Anyway, wl try to ask him ....xie xie nie
reddesk
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Faithfullyyours: I saw this
In men or women with low follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), high prolactin, or high FSH levels (the latter being suggestive of gonadotroph adenoma in the appropriate clinical setting), an MRI scan of the pituitary gland must be obtained.
Url: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/118810-workup#2
In one of the page, it explains the possible cause of high FSH in both men and women. I do hope you find the right solution to what you both are facing and the peace in whatever decision that has to be made. God bless!
In men or women with low follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), high prolactin, or high FSH levels (the latter being suggestive of gonadotroph adenoma in the appropriate clinical setting), an MRI scan of the pituitary gland must be obtained.
Url: http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/118810-workup#2
In one of the page, it explains the possible cause of high FSH in both men and women. I do hope you find the right solution to what you both are facing and the peace in whatever decision that has to be made. God bless!
reddesk
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Sade: I do bbt as family planning from the start and it was troublesome but gradually got used to it. I actually stopped a few years ago and now picking it up again. Like you, I am sceptical about supplements as there are just too many out there and never enough. But embarking on this ICSI made me see it's necessity. I guess necessity is deemed what is needed for the moment or purpose. Natural IVF looks less invasive indeed but ya too costly to do on a regular basis.. However, one would not be able to know the egg quality until retrieval or successful pregnanacy as similar to regular IVF cycle so for most, the usual long/short protocol is still more preferred due to the number of eggs retrieved since study still correlates the number of eggs retrieved to an eventual successful pregnancy. A caution though that quality of eggs irregardless of number retrieved still play a major part but it is believed that with more eggs retrieved, the chance of having quality eggs in the lot increases.
asiafrighter, no problem. Do read what chris has to say abt the natural ivf.
Chris ya it's not cost effective to do natural ivf as the eggs retrieved are much lesser than conventional ivf. But if the patient like me is yielding 2 follicles after few days of gonal F injection, hence natural ivf seems to be a better route to take. Less costly n less invasive.
Cos for conventional ivf, the cycle can be abandoned if the follicles was less than 5.
As asiafrighter had gone thru 2 cycles if i m not wrong, maybe this might seem like a better route to take. Of cos i m no expert, she still have to seek Dr Loh opinion.
Chris ya it's not cost effective to do natural ivf as the eggs retrieved are much lesser than conventional ivf. But if the patient like me is yielding 2 follicles after few days of gonal F injection, hence natural ivf seems to be a better route to take. Less costly n less invasive.
Cos for conventional ivf, the cycle can be abandoned if the follicles was less than 5.
As asiafrighter had gone thru 2 cycles if i m not wrong, maybe this might seem like a better route to take. Of cos i m no expert, she still have to seek Dr Loh opinion.
verone_baby
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sade, how much u spent for natural ivf? i heard natural ivf is more effective for low ovarian reserve patients.
asiafrighter
Member
Sade, Chris
I do agreed going thru natural ivf is less invasive to our body. I had a ultrasound just before i O and follicles consider many compare to last time. Therefore, I do guess DHEA does help a bit. Now I am preparing my body before doing any cycle.
Sade, now how many months r u in?
I do agreed going thru natural ivf is less invasive to our body. I had a ultrasound just before i O and follicles consider many compare to last time. Therefore, I do guess DHEA does help a bit. Now I am preparing my body before doing any cycle.
Sade, now how many months r u in?
love_is_all_around
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Hi,
I have 3 bottles of DHEA 25mg (90 capsules) from GNC USA at S$28 each (inclusive of shipping & US Sales tax) to spare.
It will arrive around 12-15Oct.
Let me know if you are interested.
I have 3 bottles of DHEA 25mg (90 capsules) from GNC USA at S$28 each (inclusive of shipping & US Sales tax) to spare.
It will arrive around 12-15Oct.
Let me know if you are interested.
reddesk
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Sade: yup, using your body cycle and not subjecting it to more stress seems to work out well for you.
i am trying to think how to reduce my work stress too. Will you be working until you deliver?
Asiafighter: What will you be undergoing the next cycle? It's good to hear that DHEA is showing positive effects for you. Hoping it works out well for me too next year when I go on the 2nd cycle.
Asiafighter: What will you be undergoing the next cycle? It's good to hear that DHEA is showing positive effects for you. Hoping it works out well for me too next year when I go on the 2nd cycle.
lainelaine
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Hi all, if i dun have low ovarian reserve, can take dhea? Do i need to chk with dr before taking? Mmm, tot of taking it to improve egg quality..
lainelaine
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Thks babysmurf... I'll email him n ask since i wont see him till next yr. i think he wont want me to take
love_is_all_around
Member
Just for your info, I was told by Dr. Loh to take DHEA although I do not have quantity issue but he suspects that I've quality problem after 2 failed IVF.
That's why I asked my sister in the US to send DHEA to me.
Hope this helps.
That's why I asked my sister in the US to send DHEA to me.
Hope this helps.
Prosepina less than 10k.
Asiafrighter 6months now. R u still taking dhea now? For me I had a block tube n ex endo n low ovarian hence doc loh suggested natural ivf for me. Guess now aft ur lapo, he wants u to try naturally and if u hv no pro producing more follicles, reckon that he won't recommend natural ivf to u.
Chris yup I m still working. Do lower your stress level. It's important to be relax n positive.
Asiafrighter 6months now. R u still taking dhea now? For me I had a block tube n ex endo n low ovarian hence doc loh suggested natural ivf for me. Guess now aft ur lapo, he wants u to try naturally and if u hv no pro producing more follicles, reckon that he won't recommend natural ivf to u.
Chris yup I m still working. Do lower your stress level. It's important to be relax n positive.
reddesk
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Tahope: don't worry too much. I read that there is sometimes a drop during implantation. I guess as long as it does not get below your baseline should be ok. There are many factors that affect bbt and ivf is a time it might. If this is stressing you then perhaps it's good to just chill by not taking it.
love_is_all_around
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Reddesk: So far nothing else has been detected, Dr. Loh thinks that it could be quality issues. My AMH is very high, I had more than 20 eggs in my last 2 IVF.
Dr. Loh asked me to try taking DHEA to improve the quality of eggs.
Dr. Loh asked me to try taking DHEA to improve the quality of eggs.
asiafrighter
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Sade
Yes, I am still taking DHEA, now more diligent than last time. Oic.....well, wl be still interesting to find out fm dr Loh what he wl adv me
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Chris, I'm yet to cnfm after consulting dr Loh. I still have 2 frozen embbies but was thinking to start fresh cycle. So, u only start your cycle next year?
Yes, I am still taking DHEA, now more diligent than last time. Oic.....well, wl be still interesting to find out fm dr Loh what he wl adv me
Chris, I'm yet to cnfm after consulting dr Loh. I still have 2 frozen embbies but was thinking to start fresh cycle. So, u only start your cycle next year?
I'm back fm post ET review. Super fast. Prof juz press my tummy twice lightly, hold me up & say that all. I even ask him that all only...ha ha... Juz glad to be able to go out for awhile.
Chris & bb journey > yup mayb shld heed your adv & stop taking... Super bored & tend to tink here & there even thou tis is my 3rd fresh....
Chris & bb journey > yup mayb shld heed your adv & stop taking... Super bored & tend to tink here & there even thou tis is my 3rd fresh....