IVF/ICSI Support Group


Happy,
Thanks for sharing your experience. It's really give all of us lot of encouragement and never take thing for granted.
 
Babygalore,
I like to eat and more enjoy food aft meeting my hubby. Used to know how to order chicken rice when I was out :p Dun hv to think, everytime just chicken rice!
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eskimobaby,
Good luck for your BT, it's nxt week right?

Btw, dun cry... be cheerful and positive ya...

Are you feeling better from your OHSS now?
 
Dear All,
I have a friend who has conceived problem as well. Her menses only come like 2 or 3 times a year. She tried clomid, eat a lot each time still cannot conceive. Then she told herself, let's stop for a while and relax and she manage to conceive aft that.

And aft the first child, her menses back to regular every mth and manage to conceive 2nd time.

And have some friends, manage to conceive naturally for the 1st time, and try for years, cannot get it for the 2nd.

So for us who are still trying and going to try, don't give up. It's js the matter of time. If we give up,it's 0% chance then.
 
nicole,
hi hi! *wave wave*
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glad to see u back! how are u feeling?
were u only on jabs after ur progesterone BT or rite after ET? I guess doesn't matter what we are using ba.. as long as there's enuff hormone support to sustain the pregnancy
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vinwee,
thanks! it's on 22nd june..
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i'm feeling much better.. that's why mind is straying abt dining out... haha.. maybe next week when i regain more strength...

jude,
i heard from fren too that shang is good.. ok will try it out one of these days... heee

babygalore,
yummy! i love mushrooms too... love all types of mushrooms.... mushrooms good for health too
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green muffin,
ohh... i ordered tingkat for lunch and my mum would cook for me for dinner except for weekends where my hubby will buy food for me.... basically, i'm not doing any housework.. just fold laundry only so far and wash a couple of dishes during day time kekeke

babydream,
brazil nuts contain selenium which is good for implantation...
 
hi develyn.... glad to see tat U r getting better now. perhaps the worst is gone and now u r on the journey to enjoy pregnancy. Stay healthy and cheerful, u babies can feel yr feelings too.

fond.... i agreed with Dream that U should cry yr heart out. It's not very healthy to keep everything in yr heart. Though u do not want to upset yr hubby, family or friends but i feels that u shld give urself some quiet time, all of us are make of fresh and blood, it's definitely hard to digest all these sorrows alone. I'm sure U will feel good after tat

hi ladies, it's 1 wk past my d&c and strangely the urge of doin another round of IVF is even stronger. BUT i noe i cant do it now cos i nid to tiao my body and nid to 'repay kindess' in the office as my colleague was doin my work when i was away for so long.

Good luck to all sis on 2ww
 
hi develyn.... glad to see tat U r getting better now. perhaps the worst is gone and now u r on the journey to enjoy pregnancy. Stay healthy and cheerful, u babies can feel yr feelings too.

fond.... i agreed with Dream that U should cry yr heart out. It's not very healthy to keep everything in yr heart. Though u do not want to upset yr hubby, family or friends but i feels that u shld give urself some quiet time, all of us are make of fresh and blood, it's definitely hard to digest all these sorrows alone. I'm sure U will feel good after tat

hi ladies, it's 1 wk past my d&c and strangely the urge of doin another round of IVF is even stronger. BUT i noe i cant do it now cos i nid to tiao my body and nid to 'repay kindess' in the office as my colleague was doin my work when i was away for so long.

Good luck to all sis on 2ww
 
Tomatoes

I'm sorry to know about your D&C.

Can I ask u this very cruel qn : how many weeks/ months was the preg?

I had 2 D&C performed - once in July08 and another is Feb09 - both BB heart beat stopped at week 8 and 11 respectively.

I'm still very very sad .........
 
Tomatoes,
Please take good care of yourself.

Tiao your body first. Btw, u hv to wait your AF report? I think aft your 2nd AF is more stable, the first one normally a bit haywire.


Take care
 
Hi all

I have spotting this morning, so rush down to KK to have early scan (suppose to scan on 16/6)

Just back from KK, unable to detect heartbeat at the moment, maybe too early (hope so).

Able to see 1 yolk sac and another faint cystic structure, so still dunno singleton or twin.. sigh..
Thanks god that doctor checked and said the spotting is normal, no big issue, I was so scared when I saw red @ toilet paper..

Baby heartbeat can be detected at how many weeks? Anybody to advise?

And, week of pregnancy should calculate from ER or ET date? The weeks I got from this website http://www.ivf.ca/duedate.php and weeks given by KK is different.

Just to check, is it alright to change doctor, meaning that my IVF doctor (ER & ET) is A, but I wan to change to doctor B after BFP?
 
Hi tomatoes,
do tiao body first and when you are mentally prepared, then try again. I used to be very eager to try immediately after failed cycle. I could not wait for AF to come for FET, started eating pineapples daily, drank cooling stuff to stimulate. As was told to rest 2 menses before trying. However, body was still weak so that cycle didn't work. I used up all mc and annual leave to try ivf and felt bad that colleagues have to cover up for my work.
 
hi axjess,
Hope you are feeling ok now. how heavy is the spotting? if sac is seen, then no worries. Heartbeat can only be heard around 8 weeks, so you are still early. Now you should be only 5 weeks plus right? You can calculate base on ER date but it could still vary with hospital as they use the size to measure the EDD.

Yes, no problem you can change doctor. I changed to my previous normal gynae as Dr Loh has a very long queue. You may even go to other hospital, not necessary kk gynae. But you might like to re-confirm if is singleton or twins first. As some people feel that ivf doctor will be more experience with multiple birth, instead of a normal gynae.
 
Hi bunny,

I am also worried that I may be genetically defective that is why cannot produce good quality eggs.....but not sure whether there is a test for that.
 
Hi die,

thank you! Howz ur tuition issue? Settled?

Jude,

Initially my follicles were not growing very well also, some of the ladies here advise me to drink chicken essence everyday and it worked.
I must thank the ladies here cos I was here as reading abt what the rest of the ladies do and I try to use whatever is suitable for me.

Prior to starting IVF:

#I try to jog 5X a week, or at least 3x a week(must thx my hubby for pushing me. Then gradually change to walking after I start puregon cos the ladies here say dun over strain our body cos hormones are being suppress.

#Then I go for accu @ Dr Zou's twice a week before I start ivf, 1stly is to "train " myself not to be scared of needles haha, cos ivf journey requires us to do a lot of injections oursleves. 2ndly of cos is to tiao my body before start of ivf. But I chose not to take tcm med cos the ladies here say dr loh do not encourage and quite ex, I find it if accu and med.

#as for the dos and dont's, I follow religiously what the ladies says. Dr Zou says strictly no cold drinks as here I am doing accu to keep my womb warm, there I am drowing down cold drinks, it will defeat the purpose of accu. Besides accu is done so as to keep our womb is warm and get it ready for baby/babies for the next 9 months and I stop. As my husband and I always drink a lot of plain water, hence, it is not really an issue for me. I totally cut out all cold things.

Dos and Donts
Stage 1 (Lucrin/Suprefact)

- Cut off cold drinks
- water intake 2L/day
- drink DOM to build up the body
- chicken essence X 1 3x/week
- egg white x 1 daily
- Gentle rotation in circle motion clockwise after you have jab your abdomen.
- If painful - try to sooth the area you are injecting with hot towel, the skin will become less tense


Stage 2 (Puregon / Gonal-F)

- Ensure milk or Anmum milk
- chicken essence x 1 alternate day
- Soya products (high protein food)
- egg whites x 2
- water intake 2L/day
- Brazil nuts

Stage 3 (2WW)
- increase egg whites intake
- Ensure milk or Anmum milk
- 2-3 pieces of Brazil nuts daily, some take 5 pcs per day.
- can also take sunflower seed, pumkin seed, and flax seed
- water intake 2L/day
- No pineapple and water melon
- No squatting or carrying of heavy weights (anything that stresses the abdominal muscle)
- No hot sauna or soaking of lower half body in bathtub
- No intercourse
- Do not stand or sit in a position (infront PC)too long. Good to walk a bit to promote circulation
- No raw food and avoid oily and spicy foods as it may cause an upset stomach. High hormone levels cause bloatedness and hence add to discomfort
- No strenuous exercise
- No other medication (eg. TCM) other than those given by your Dr.

#lastly, always tell myself to have faith in GOD and he knows what's best for me. If I remember clearly Serene mentioned positive visualizaton helps too! Everyday, I will talk to my embies and go thru the stages of their development to assure myself everything is going well.

Thx and best of luck to u!

Hi ladies,

I tot brazil nuts was sold at $3.90/100g, how come some of u say $5/100g still promo? Has the price gone up?
 
Hi Nicole ,

One step at a time.. i am counting down for 1st trimester also.. but is longer than 2ww.. zzz..
Anyway, worth the wait for BFP okie.. come back to the forum.. i will be here for u okie..
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Hi Tomatoes ,

Rest well first before rushing to 2nd cycle.. i failed my first and went straight to 2nd cycle straight after 2mths.. it is exhausting by then when u are pregnant.. so rest and tio body.. pray that the baby which is gone will come back to u healthily and stay with u till u deliver.. my 1st IVF was twins.. 2nd IVF is also twins.. so i feel that god answers my prayers.. my next scan is next friday.. i really hope thing goes well for me and sail a smooth journey.. U Jia you okie.. tio body is very important after a tedious journey.. u must jia you !

Hi Axejess,

I am using the same IVF calculator as u
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I do have fresh blood spottings off and on.. and KK 24hrs also says ok and give me a jab at my thigh.. singleton/twins are both ok.. as long as u are gtg to be mummy soon..

My babies heartbeats detected 6weeks 3days.. but gynae says depends individual.. some ppl 7weeks plus then can detect.. dun add on stress toyour bao bei.. Hang in there..

Btw, why not trust your own gynae.. the one who does everything for u to BFP.. i am thinking of switching but somehow or rather, i find that bbs and me have some bondings with dr loh as he brings my babies hope to realistic.. and of cos IVF gynae is more experience on multiples delivery.. think abt it la.. just comment only :p

Hi Meow ,

I am still hanging here :p
 
Boon Boon,

dun worry! Just follow what the ladies here say and u will get BFP too! I personally feel that accu at Dr Zou's has a lot of effect. You shld try to do it twice a week and start soon b4 u embark on IVF, that's my personal opinion.
 
Nicole-Yup, I do that twice a week. But I don't have your determination to jog for 5x a week. Anyway, will continue to work toward my dream and thank you for your advice..
 
Hi Nicole ,

U have bought at carrefour if i am not wrong.. Carrefour more expensive but i find it taste nicer.. their usual price is SGD 5.90/100gram.. So indeed u bought at promotion price.. the rest at kiosk is SGD 3.90/100gram.. no matter wat.. u get it and eat it will be good.. haha.. But remember to drink lots of water cos it can be quite heaty...
 
Boon Boon,

u hv a gd weekend too! Must enjoy more now b4 IVF starts cos seems like kind of difficult to proceed wif whatever plan for esp in 2ww. Go shopping, maybe short trip with hubby. Enjoy 2 ren shi jie 1st and imagine it is ur last moment b4 bb joins u in 9 mths time! Remember positive thinking, haha!
 
Develyn,

no, I bought mine at parkway parade @ $3.90/100g. I meant some ladies here was mentioning $5/100g. Anyway, the last time I bought 200g, eat until now still haven't finish. Cos 1 day only take 2 or 3.
 
Hi Nicole ,

Mine ar.. honestly only eat 2pcs thru' out whole 2ww.. cos forgotten but nvm .. still stick... so dun force to eat too many.. :p
 
Develyn,

u mean 2ww still nd to eat brazil nuts? I din cos esp after pregnyl jab, feel very bloated but seems hungry every 2 hrs. Feel like eating meat all the time. Is it bcoz my baby/babies may be born in the year of tiger if everything goes well, haha!

Btw, can I add u to msn so sometimes when we r free we can msn. Faster there, haha!
 
Develyn,

some of the ladies here say they only start having stomach crampy feeling after last week of 2ww, but I got it rite after ET until today, u think it's normal?
 
Hi Nicole ,

I thought 2ww is the time when need to eat brazilian nuts.. hmm haha.. anyway, good to feel bloated as u will not tat the pregyl jab is doing a good support :p As for the cramp , dun worry.. sometime cos the nurse/doctor might press too hard on your tummy.. keep mind open to accept your BFP soon okie..
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i just had buffet lunch last wk at the mushroon pot. very nicE! esp if u like mushrooms.. cos the soup base is boiled mushrooms too. very fragrant.

i just called CHR, tmr i need to do FSH test wor. tdy spotting ler.. shld be starting superfac 2 jul. anyone her i can cycle with?
 
Dear Nicole,

Thanks for the clear instructions. Will increase my exercise regime (now doing weekly yoga and Boxercise although I stopped when I started stage 2). Will boost it up by going to the gym or playing tennis. Anyway, I seemed to have gained weight after the 2ww....just eat and sleep...so must loss some weight.

Next time round, I will follow the dos and don't religiously. Only bump into this site during my 2ww....hai

Nicole, were you on the long or short protocol? Take care and best of luck for your 2ww

To the other Ladies, have a nice weekend and take care!!!
 
Hi Lina
KK said I am 6w pregnant, the website indicates I am 6w3d pregnant.
I have bit of spotting only, seems it's stop now. God blessed.

Emm.. I will only consider the gynae issue on my next scan. Thanks Lina

Develyn
You are really a pillar of this thread. Hope we will have a smoother 8-9 mths ahead.

Right, singleton or twin is ok for me, as long as the baby is growing & healthy.

Actually I am not with any gynae now, they referred me back to Clinic D as subsidised patient, so maybe seeing different gynae/ medical officer on each visit.

I was with Kelly Looi during IVF stage. Thinking to stick to 1 gynae, so still consider whether to stick with Dr Kelly Looi or Dr John Tee.. but seems like male gynae is more caring??
 
Babygalore,
Thanks for giving me excuses to enjoy my massage! Seems like I have to start exercising again if I want to have good eggs like Nicole and Develyn...used to play tennis once a week...but stopped everything last month for IVF...

otherwise, i dont have any frozen embryo! so, will have to start from scratch again. From what I googled, natural IVF is IVF but without using drugs. Hence, aim is to grow only one egg (instead of the many eggs with traditional IVF with puregon/Gonal F) naturally (or with some Clomid help). Some Drs. believe that the body would choose the "best" egg for that cycle and hence, the egg should be of better quality (at least that's what I hope). The drawback is of course that there is only one egg! and there is a chance that the follicle don't have egg and then that the egg don't fertilize...so, a lot of uncertainty...

Anybody heard about this natural IVF?
 
Hi Axejess ,

Honestly, i was pillar by many ladies here.. they pillar me thru' out my cries in my 1st ivf.. if not them, i will not be in this stage now.. So same to u, u are being pillar by others and reach your mtb stage.. now u have to be the pillar of the rest.. giving them big supports they need.. I hope this forum continues .. ppl come back after BFP to support each other..

As for your gynae, if twins .. pls go and book appointment with Dr Sadhana or Dr Loh.. If singleton , u can stick with Dr John Tee or anyone else.. as for Dr Kelly Looi , i dun have good remarks for her.. many here also dun have good impression on her due to her quickie action and blunt words ! Think twice ya.. :X
 
Meow,
Heard it is best not to do accupuncture while having AF as it would prolong AF. But that was not with Dr. Zhou so she may have other views.
 
Develyn,

I have added u to msn. C u there somtime!

Jude,

I was on the long protocol.

Despondent,

I saved it under words and some websites that I find useful under favourites so I can refer as and when I need to refer.

Dream,

somehow I feel accu is the main thing that helps with good eggs. And now at 2ww I am taking Dr Zou's med to really secure my pregnancy.
 


Doing ivf with kkh dont get to see gynea during each appt? Only get too see during er n et? Then who will give instructions on injections n if got qns ask who? Nurse?

May i ask the ensure milk is to drink one cup everyday during stage 2? Chicken esscense one alt day? Cant drink one everyday? May i knw the milk is it to help the eggs to grow? Cos i knw chck esscence helps the egg to grow..
 

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