IVF/ICSI Support Group

Hi missfairylady,

if I remember correctly I think the sisters here started using hotpacks during er/et stage. But do re-confirm with the rest of them again. Btw, what stage are u in now?
 


nicole,
i got a very bad running nose last sat... partly also due to the airconditioner that i turned on the whole nite and whole morning throughout my sleep.. anyway i think our immune system will be lower than usual becos all our energy is centred on eggs production keke.... i didn't dare to take the flu medicine so i just down raw honey water and slept alot and i was ok the next day... u can try drink manuka honey water to help build up ur immune system and also to give u energy and get rid of some of the heatiness..

i think also these few days is esp hot.... so must remember to drink lots of water ya
 
nicole,
i also abit confused where to jab.. i try to alternate the lucrin n puregon jabs between left and right... luckily i got a big slab of fats bigger surface area.. so a little more space left to jab... i can still see the 'holes' from the puregon jabs the next day but the lucrin ones are usually not visible.
 
Lina
This is so scary.. i can imagine your fear..
After my fresh bleeding previously, i totally can imagine how you are feeling.. esp you have bad experience before. Luckily baby is very active, and bleeding has stopped. What is the jab your gynae gave you? Is it also progesteron jab or a specific jab to stop the bleeding?
You are very fortunate that unpaid leave can be taken till your delivery, so from now onwards, no work stress, continue to rest well.

Bliss
How come your stay is so long? Do take care.. no hurry to come in chat with us, try to settle down first.

Serene
Is your SIL with KKH too? She must feel very eager to quickly start her new cycle since you have BFP.

Dream
Counting down..... to BFP
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lina,
i also think that u are very brave and calm from wat u describe.. i'm sure u'll be a great mummy.. strong pillar for ur bb
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Nicole
I drank Gatorade even though it's high in salt content.. but it really help to ease my OHSS. Many websites on OHSS actually stated to drink Gatorade, but i think we don't drink this often, only during this period for a few days should be ok ba..
 
Nicole & Missfairylady-In fact, hot pack is meant for blood circulation. So you have use it every day even you are at stage 1 or stage 2 or even 2ww.

Lina-Thanks god that your bleeding stop. Have a smooth pregnancy. Job is not the first priority so don't think much and rest well throughout the remaining months.

Bliss-Great to receive your post. Meantime rest and eat well during your confinement period.

Sierra-Great that you can continue to start the program. Jia Yu

Lyn-You FSH level is it more than 10? My recent one suddenly went up to 11.8 so I decide to discuss with Dr Loh should I under Antangonist or normal? What did Dr Loh told you last time?
 
Good morning ladies,

I'm back to work today... Quickly come in to say hello!!
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Time passes so slowly today! It is only 10.30am! Alamak... How to endure till end of the day!! Jia Lat! Yawn!!
 
hi nicole, eskimobaby and boon boon,
thanks.

hi missfairylady,
After ET cannot use hot pack at all.

hi libby,
previous experience helps. I learn not to trust the 24 hours clinic doctor.
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If not would end up staring at ceiling, pray and hope bleeding stops. My gynae gave the same progesteron jab (same as during the 2ww), jab on the thigh. Don't think they have any jab to stop bleeding. All he could say is just lie and rest.
 
Lina
Ya.. agree.. The 24hrs doc don't feel kan cheong at all, make us feel so helpless.. Only know how to say there's nothing we can do..
 
Thanks Nicole and Lina

Im starting the 2nd week of June with Lucrin jab. i'm very nervous as i do not know what is the effect.

i will buy the hot pack for preparation.
 
Hi Serence, congrats on your high high HCG level. Have a smooth 9 months ahead. Your kid must be thrill about the bb, ya?
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Hi zaza, I'm sorry about the result. Please do not give up and your wish of becoming a mummy will be granted!

Hi Lina, when I read your post, I was like panicking for you. It's a relieve that the bleeding had stopped and it's your hyper-active bb inside doing somersault. Think he/she needs more space. haaaa.... Anyway, glad that you and bb are ok.

Hi libby, glad that you are back with us here again. Dr Loh commented that it's not worth trying FET for the balance 1 embryo?

Hi tnt, go and test hpt leh. I'm very excited for you. Hope to catch some of your baby dust to us here.

Hi Bliss, finally finally finally. Must be exhausted. Do take care of yourself during the 1 month confinement period and do send your cute bb photo for me to envy, ya?
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Hi Sierra, glad to hear that you do not have negative response to the one-time lucrin jab. I will be starting in about 2 weeks time with the daily jab. Do remember on the do's and don'ts that we posted before, k?

Hi missfairlady, do not use hot pack after ET as the it might be too warm for the embbies to survive.
 
eskimobaby,

thx for the honeywater remedy, will take it later, just got back from dr zou's accu. Am feeling so lethargic. Dr zou also say during puregon stage our immunity very low so try not to go to crowded places also drinks lotsa of water.

The jabs really make me bruise around my left and right side of tummy.
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Till today when I go for accu, dr zou haven't put the needle in already painful.
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libby,

ok thx!

boon boon,

thx for the info, that's what dr zou says too when I ask her just now!

missfairlady,

dun worry abt it, just take deep breath b4 u jab and pinch ur fat area hard, u won't feel the needle prick. That's what I did, haha!
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Hi ladies,

I read somewhere here that dun take carbo during ivf treatment but take more protein. Then what do you all eat for your 3 meals huh? Can't be jsut egg white, meat and milk rite? Pls help!
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Fresh
Long time no see your posting too.. How are you?
Base on past experience at Care, i also don't think it's worth to thaw the only embryo.. I will go for a fresh cycle, and hopefully this time round can get many fertilized and add the frozen tog for future use..

So fast your turn soon.. jia you
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Nicole
I eat everything in moderation for 2ww, but only increase intake for egg white, else how to survive neh?

Are you taking TCM herbs this period?
 
libby,

I see, I was wondering after I read an article abt it and was feeling puzzled. Like what you say, eat in moderation.

No, I just go for accu. Btw, hv u startedivf, sorry I am lost!
 
and westerners says it's good to take water melon and pineapple during 2ww whereas asians don't encouraged cos it's cooling.

Really confuse me! But after I spoke to my family members, my sis thinks bcos ang moh eat a lot of beef hence their body more heaty whereas we dun eat as much as them. Seems to make some sense, heehee! What do you ladies think?
 
Nicole-Yup, I got the info from her too :>

Eat more Green Veg and go for less oily food.
In fact, beside protein other Vit and Mineral foods are important too. So, since can't move alot during 2ww so just take more nutrition foods (buy many type of green veg, fish, fruit) and try your own like way to mix & match)
 
Nicole
Not giving up, cos my dream not fulfilled yet.
Only see Dr Zou for accu during my 2nd cycle, no herbs.. But most likely will take her herbs to tiao my body this time..
 
Nicole-Yup, like Jap they drink Green Tea and eat Winter Melon during their Pregnancy. Because of weather and food we take-in differently, can't compare and follow the same method. so best is listen to your own body.
 
boon boon,

I dunno what to do now cos I seems to be having flu, bad headache and feeling very lethargic now. Just took some honeywater like what eskimobaby says and resting now, doubt I can go for tuition later.
 
Nicole-Best to rest. To have enough sleep (rest) is important too. BTW, pls try to rest during 5-7pm (was told Kidneys play an important role in reproduction. They may quickly become depleted of energy during IVF program. And Kidneys are particularly active during that time.
 
Hi lina,

I got a shock when i read about your bleeding. Thank goodness you are alright now. Yup i agreed that KK 24hrs clinic cannot make it..they only take wait and see attitude. Luckily u gone back to see your gynae and he gave u the jab. Oh i read b4 that lotus root is used in chinese medicine for "stop bleeding".

Take care and rest well!!!

Hi nicole,
I not in any stage now. heehee I was refering to my 1st try in ivf during Mar 09. May be going for FET end of the yr or maybe next yr.
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Hi ladies,

Update of my delivery since last Wed:

20/5/09
4.10pm
went for my 39weeks appt at kkh, doc sadhana did cervix check for me, I was 1.5cm dilated only, bb was estimated to be 3.5kg. Doc suggested induction since I had been experiencing lots of early labour pain for the past few weeks. I agreed too coz I really want to end the daily contraction pain and sleepless nights too.
But there was a bit confusion when doc’s nurse arranged me to have the induction on 2am next day, then changed to next day 6am again… after I left kk, she called again saying that she had made a mistake, it should be 6pm on that very day! Luckily I brought along my hosp bag, milk pump that day, so hubby and I drove back to kkh to be admitted to the delivery suite str.

6pm
I had very light dinner at the kk fdcourt and had baby’s heartbeat monitored for abt 40 mins before induced.

8..15pm
The induction tablet, prostin was inserted near to the neck of my cervix thru vagina. It was painful! After that, I lie on the bed to rest and wait for labour contraction.

10.15pm
I was still feeling ok, no pain though lots of contractions. Was sent to the labour ward to rest first.

21/5/09
12.30am
Started to feel intense contractions. But I tried to bear with it as I did not want to use the pain relief so early, I knew it would be even more painful later one.

5.30am
The labour pain was already very intense, I asked for pain relief jab on the thigh. So was pushed back to the delivery ward to get pain relief. Was told I was only 2cm dilated at that time!

6.30am
Injected pain relief on thigh, was feeling much better after that, and sleepy and drowsy. Managed to sleep during this waiting period.

7.30am
Anasthetist and midwife came in to give me epidural as doc sadhana gave instructions that I could take epidural even only 2cm dilated. The epidural injection was painless and smooth. I lie on bed to rest and wait.
8.15am
Doc sadhana came to check on my condition, I was 4cm dilated then. She burst my water bag and wanted to see how the dilation after that, hoping I would be ready for delivery soon.

9am to 11am
Baby’s heartbeat slowed down certain time and went back normal again. The inconsistent heartbeat showed distress in baby. I was only 5cm dilated that time.

11.30am
Doc sadhana came in and told me that it was a bit too long to let bb stay inside after water bag has burst. She told me to have c section delivery since I was still 5cm dilated, it was not advisable to wait longer since my dilation was very slow. Without any choice, I agreed and the nurses all in very fast motion, getting me ready for the procedure. The feel of emergency made me feel bit stressful when I was already quite disappointed to end up having c section after 15 hours of labour waiting and 5 hours of intense labour pain. I requested for hubby to be with me during the op, but was not allowed coz mine was an emergency one.

11.45am
I was pushed into the operating theatre. My epidural intake was increased in order to feel painless during the op. I was totally conscious thru out the c section delivery. I could feel the incision made, layer by layer… but without pain. However the thought of it was quite stressful. I felt the docs opening my tummy and pressed very hard on my tummy to pull out baby.

12.06pm
Within seconds, I heard bb crying very loudly! Doc pulled out my bb and showed to me immediately, he was opening his eyes widely, looking at me. Then bb was carried away to get cleaned up, I could still hear his crying while docs were stitching my tummy.

12.34pm
My bb was cleaned up and wrapped nicely. A nurse carried him to let me look at him while I was still on the operating table. Baby was looking at me without blinking his eyes at all… the feeling was so amazing and indescribable. Nurse then carried bb to show my hubby who was anxiously waiting outside the theatre.
I was cleaned up and pushed to the operating resting lounge for half an hour.

1.30pm
I was pushed back to my labour ward and my hubby and baby were already there waiting for me. I was shivering for a few hours due to the side effects of epidural. My lower body was totally numbed and I could not feel the existence of my lower body until the next morning.

22/5/09
I started total breastfeeding my bb. I had him latch on without any supplements given. As I am only producing colostrum only, the amount was very little, my bb was crying almost every hour for milk. It was very tiring and stressful. Late at night, I started having very painful engorgement. It was so painful that I cried a few times and could not sleep at all.

23/5/09
I had a lactation nurse to help and guide me on how to massage my breasts and ease the engorgement. It was a long and painful day for me. I was spending whole day massaging and pumping out my milk while bb has to be on formula at the same time.

24/5/09
I was told that bb could not be discharged this day as his jaundice level has risen and near to high risk level. So he needs to be under observation one more day. Hubby and I decided to stay with bb one more stay too, hoping he would be alright to go home the next day. I continue to latch on at times and pump out my milk for bb. He was having formula too, as his demand was really high. Drinking more milk will also help to clear his jaundice, so I decided to let hime have a mixture of my breastmilk and formula.

25/5/09
I had very bad constipation ever since after the delivery. Had been given 3 types of medication to ease constipation and soften stools at the same time, but seemed not effective still. I had such painful constipation in the early morning that I need the doc to dig out and remove all my hard stools ‘manually’! It was terrible experience and so unpleasant. Finally, my constipation was resolved. But my bb was not allowed to go home still, his jaundice level has risen again! I was so upset and worried. Hubby and I decided to go home first. We had already extended one more day with bb on Sunday, so we couldn’t imagine how high the total bill will be, as I had induction, epidural, c section and also extended stay for me and bb in A1 class ward.
I was quite upset when leaving kk. I know it is quite common for newborn to have jaundice, but I still cried when I carried my bb in my arms before discharging from hosp with bb home with me.

So here’s my long long delivery story and hosp stay in KKH last week.
I would like to thank all you ladies here for the best wishes and blessings. Thank you so much!
Jas, thank you so much for the hamper sent to me and bb. Very sweet of you, I was very surprised and touched. 
Humbug, it was so nice to have you visited me and bb too! Thanks for the gifts too. Thanks for taking the time during lunch time to come all the way from workplace to kk to visit me. I really appreciate it. 
Juju and babymaking, thank you so much for the beautiful flowers. Juju, thanks for coming to bring me the flowers and best wishes!
 
Libby-Talked to HB and Dr Zou, so now waiting the green light from Dr Loh, will be seeing him this Thursday. Now my concern is whether should I under normal or skip the Lucrin since I also look like to have low ovary reserve...
 
libby,

actually I was going to ask you to try go to 1 place for prayer as my mother in law always goes there and seems very "ling". She also goes there to pray when she knows I am going to start ivf and pray for smooth ivf, so far so good.

Actually in our almost 10 years of trying for a bb, we have consulted them and they always tell us to go seek western doc opinion.

Which we din until now. Hence, I believe very much in them now. I hope our prayers will be answered soon!
 
Bliss
Was reading your post.. very touching the moment bb is out, but very traumatic throughout as well.. Pls take good care of yourself, worried you get depression.. everything is fine and under control now, so don't worry and do your confinement well.. Take care

Nicole
Where is this prayer place? I'm desperate liao..

Boon Boon
Hope Dr Loh gives you green light to start soon. Good luck.
 
Bliss-Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. Now, I hope you can have a good time to rest and hope you very soon your baby will join u to rest well at home.
 
libby,

it's at ngee soon near thomson, I will try to get exact address for you the next time I go there.

boon boon,

yes I am having morning appt not sure abt sierra though.
 
Lina: Hope u r feeling better. Got a shock when i heard abt bleeding.. Did the doc say if this will affect ur pregnancy??R u on Complete Bed rest?? Pls rest well n dun move ard ya.. can understand how scary it must have been for u.. Do continue eating the receipe given by Dr Zou since it helps u..Has bleeding stopped completely now??

Bliss: So wonderful to hear ur experience.. The feeling of seeing bb for the 1st time beautiful. Do rest well n eat well ya.. take care n congrats once again.
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good morning everyone!

lina,
rest well, great to hear that your company is so understanding!

going for my 2nd scan today.... so nervous!
 
hi bliss,
congrats! i think all of us are working hard here so that we can experience what u have during 1206pm and 1234pm.. i'm sure it's magical... i really really hope everyone of us here can get our wishes come true...
 


ekimobaby, itjabi,boon boon, libby,
thank you so much!
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I will rest as much as possible, sorry if I cant post much and visit here as often now. I will still pouring lots of baby dust and giving lots of supports and prayers for all of you here! It has been such long journey for all of us here.

Lina,
take gd care ok? Hope you are feeling much better now.
 

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