IVF/ICSI Support Group

Develyn, Pari, Zaza, Serene, Itjabi
Thanks ladies. I feel much better knowing that most people do D2 transfer and there are successful cases!

I am not even on 2WW and (bed rest) and I already find it so hard. Hope I will get used to it. Serene, you are right...suddenly feel so free and don't know what to do with my time! Hubby was at home with me but he is going back to work tomorrow (as expected ET to be saturday)...just now, my boss called and I could not even remember which day it was! felt like it was friday and could not even remember my ops was yesterday. time really moves slowly.

I will create a FB account tomorrow or next week.

Otherwise, how was ET? is it really uncomfortable to be on full bladder? How long is the procedure?

Pari,
any possibility to put 4 embryos? tried to look for MOH regulations but could not find it. Anyway, will ask tomorrow Dr.

Ashqhee
I think most people are taking multivitamins. I dont think there is any harm taking them. Just make sure they contain folic acid.
 


dream - Mine is day3 transfer
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Hi dream,

R u taking govt subsidy? If yes, can put 2 embies only wor... If not youcan put 3. I think max is 3.

ET very fast one... about 5 mins and its done. The only uncomfortable part is full bladder. Try drinking water only after you leave the house... By the time you reach hosp, bladder should be quite full already.
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dream,
serene is rite. 2 embryos to get subsidy from govt, 3 embryos max by MOH regulations
mine was a day 2 transfer as well
 
For Dream and other future IVF ladies,

Manage to find some infor obout the difference in transfer

What is the difference between an embryo, morula, and a blastocyst transfer?

Embryo Transfer: An embryo transfer is done 2 or 3 days after retrieval. A day 2 embryo usually contains anywhere from 2-4 cells. A day 3 embryo is usually around 8-10 cells in size.

Morula Transfer: A morula transfer is done 4 days after retrieval. Morula transfers are not as common as embryo or blastocyst transfers. A Morula usually contains at least 30 cells, but as the cell numbers increase the morula compacts and the cell borders become less distinguishable.

Blastocyst Transfer: A blastocyst transfer is done 5-6 days after retrieval. A blastocyst has so many cells that individual cells are no longer recognizable.
 
Zaza,
You are reading my mind. Was actually typing a question to the sisters to ask them how many cells did their embryo have on day 2!

thanks for the information. How many cells was your 3 day embryo?

What about the ladies who had 2-day transfer? How many cells were your embryo?
 
Ladies,
Thanks. Would most likely put 3 tomorrow if embryos survive till tomorrow. When I asked Dr whether I should put 3, he says "definitely". I think the insurance is much higher for 3 embryos, so hope it will be worth it!
 
dream - there is no way to control the full bladder ... Juz for guide, urine seconds b4 leaving home and bring along a water bottle with about 500ml of water... the trick is not to drink all at one go but drink a bit bit along the way to hospital and the final ml shld be finished seconds b4 u reach the door of your centre ...U cld hold ur bladder till after the procedure
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Jus some tips from my DH
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Thanx. Really need time to prep myself b4 stating again. Tot only those who are <40 allowed to trander 3?

I did a D4 transfer but no success :-( and had 1 frozen at D7. Will consider doing the FET maybe end of the year.
 
Dear Ladies,

I think u can relate to hw I feel.. My Mother's day celebration was a very bad ones.... My SIL said I shouldn't have join the celebration because I'm nt fall under "Mother" catergory &amp; giggled away ...Was very pissed off... Told DH about it and he said I'm just being over sensitive! Well, am I????
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Had discussed with him regarding IVF but he reluctant to undergo the procedure as he need to "force" his sperm out which he felt it's a stupid thing to do loh.... May I know hw does the procedure of the above like?
 
Dream,
Thanks for tips. So, 500 ml should be enough?

8-cell
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really happy for you..dont move too much so that your embryo sticks to you!
 
Well Lynnette, ur SIL is really too much!! To go thru' IVF both of u need each other support. Maybe u can try sweet talk him slowly...
 
lynette- it is impt to try ivf with an open heart and not being forced into .... discuss with ur hubby and mayb there is some underlying reasons on his reluctance .... have an open communication and only when bth agreed then to proceed with the procedure
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Hi Libby
Stay on and have positive thoughts. AS long as your reading increase, there is high hope. If possible, bed rest and dont move. Tat time when I pregnant especially in early weeks, I have bleeding and was told to have bed rest. After which the bleeding stopped.

Hi Itjabi
How's your cuttie baby? Dun worry too much, let it natural, the blood clot will be disappear. In addition, try to rest as much as possible especially dun walk to much

For those who are in 2ww
Rest well and do watever you like but avoid carry heavy things and always in happy mood
 
Ash &amp; Zaza

Thanks for the advices &amp; comforting words ...
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I kept brooding over it this past few wks ..

Does DH needs to "force" out his sperm? Hw is the procedure like ? Need to gather some infor before I can sweet talk him ......
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thanks ladies

Lynette-that was really mean of your SIL but only people who are going through infertility would understand how we feel. As for IVF, sisters are right that you should only embark on it when both of you are ready bcoz it is emotionally very tough. Have your hubby done SA analysis yet?
 
Ash, I strongly agreed!! Whenever I mentioned about IVF, he'll try to side track ... I agreed with what Zaza had mentioned not to force him but I can't possibly wait ... My biological clock is ticking ..... I guess at times I'm just being selfish ... Sigh .....
 
zaza,
not realli.
i did mine @ kkh &amp; transferred 3 embryos. dat time i din qualify for the subsidy so no diff to me &amp; hubby
 
lynette -

Both urself n hubby would have to go thru blood test for HIV and others... you wld also need to have your FSH level tested during day 2/3 of your period to provide the amount of gonalf/puregon needed and hubby will have to provide sperm sample for morphology n motility tests ....

Once the above has been cleared, then your doctor will allow to start the procedure with the start of injections for lucrin, then puregon/gonal F then will be egg retrieval then egg transfer
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Your hubby only had to provide the sperm twice and the rest will be on you
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zaza - ops my wrong..40 then can tranfer 3.

lynnette - DH nid to masturbate. They hv private room for him to do it there. Even got videos i tink.
 
Dream, not yet. Hw to? He reluctant to go for any checkup .. He said it'll be embarrassing to undergo IVF ... What's there to embarrass? It's a common thing ...
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lynnette - best to get medical review b4 deciding. Maybe u can try other options be embarking on ivf. Its really draining wif all the daily jabs, scan &amp; blood test. And if u r working u nid to be away frm work for 3 weeks at least.
 
Lynnette,
I feel quite sad reading your post. You are not being selfish..but he is! How long have you been trying? The best is to find out where the problem lies..whether it is with you, him or both. Is he afraid that his soldiers wont be so strong. Is he smoking and drinking? that will affect sperm quality a fair bit. As for him being "embarrassed" about IVF, it can be your "secret". There is no need to mention it to his/your family if he is not comfortable with the thought. Hope you can talk to him. May I ask how old you are? Fertility declines with age and it is also the same with his soldiers...
 
lynnette - i guess pron video...i dun ask details frm hubby..;-) Actually both need to go for medical review not juz hubby. May i ask...how long hv u been trying?
 
Lynette,
Yes, just make sure that the lab receives it within an hour. So, your hubby does not need to feel "embarassed". You can drop the bottle for him at the lab.
 
true...well even wif ivf...there's no 100% success. All we can do after ET is pray hard &amp; rest well that everything goes well till 9 mths later. Its a loong journey
 
Lynnette, Very sad to read your post. Hope you can talk to your husband and convince him. As the sisters here say you can see and doctor and do the necessary tests to determine whether you need IVF or there are other options for you. Hope you will overcome your hurdles and become a mum fast. Hang in there girl. Please ignore SIL and dont let such things bring your spirit down.
 
Dream, I had a miscarriage Jan last yr.. Been trying 4 mths after that ...
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He's neither a smoker nor drinker ...
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I'm going to 30 soon ...... DH is 35
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My MIL been pressurizing me to quickly bore her a grandson ..

Ash ... heheheheheheheh ...
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Zaza, u on 2WW? Doc gave 3 wks MC?
 
develyn - glad to see you back.. how are you feeling??

daffodils - glad to see your post.. you better take care and relax a bit..
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lynette - promise him that you will 'give him a helping hand' lor..
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no choice one mah.. btw, tell your SIL to go *ding* *ding*... what a meanie..
 
Dream

I just have my ET today.
When I reached KK, it was about 10am, (my scheduled appointment was 930am). I waited till 1035am until cannot hold already, no choice, I went to pass urine, after passed urine, I drink abt 3 cups of water, and still not my turn, waited until 1120am, my bladder already very full. lucky 5 mins later was my turn.

Nurse said you can pass urine if really cannot hold but muz drink water after pass urine and you may have to miss your turn once if your bladder is not full.
 
Libby
you have come a long way...please hold on and never give up. But as what Dr Zou has said before, "if its a good one...it should stick"
all the best.!
 
Hi Serene ,

Yupz.. haha.. started posting again :D ...
My BHCG is on 22/05/09.. but i can do home preggy test on Monday or tuesday liao..
Dunno leh, maybe MC before on 1st cycle..
So, i think i will only feel safe after i see heart beats this time.. Haha.. but mentally prepared for any result.. Of cos hope positive la.. but really bfn , i will rest and try again.. at least like that i wont feel so stress bah.. Keke... btw, i dun have facebook.. will resgister after 2ww.. hee..

Hi Lynette,

Do not feel u are alone.. i have super @$%!! SIL too... just ignore them.. DH also say i sensitive too.. and says SIL just joking.. then we quarrel over it badly.. But think about it , is it worthwhile to quarrel ? SIL just hope to see it mah.. The next sarcastic remarks from my SIL , i became smarter.. ACT KE LIAN and DH ask me what happen , i told him that he wont want to know... then haha i related my saddness.. What u want is BB and ignore those ILs..

For ladies who knows my MC stories related to ILs , Fyi .. they do not really dare to contact anymore !! DH also doted me more more more !

As for IVF journey , how long did u try and what did u try so far and age ? Some guys have ego on
self-m. so have to understand too.. but if this is the last option u have.. try your DH on soft and hard side.. note that u need full support before going ahead although suffering are more on ladies.. chat about it slowly.. let him know how common is it and why did u choose that..
 
Hi Mel ,

I am good.. haha.. funny hor.. like i very long didnt post long long story liao.. keke.. :D
Your babies doing good? Hope they are..
 
lynnette - well u still can catch the boat..u hv yet to hit the BIG "3". Try boosting ur health wif multi-vits or tcm. Since u r able to concieve earlier maybe tts y ur DH not keen to try ivf.

The problems tt we face wil ILS!! They can be so *@#%$%.
 
Hi Develyn,

you are finally back. Miss your advises, jokes and positiveness. Howz everything with you already? Everything ok?
 
lynette
wat a XXXX SIL! anyway, the best way is to ignore her!

since you have conceive before.... maybe you should start by seeing the gynae or a chinese doctor to find out more about where the problem is? maybe it's jux that your body is not well prepared to conceive after the miscarriage, maybe chinese medicine can help you?
 
Hi Nicole,

Yupz Yupz.. i am back.. finally finish the OHSS problem.. eekkk experience.. haha.. how are u &amp; which stage are u in now ? Sorry huh, blur liao..
 

Hi Develyn,

I have just started lucrin on same day as Sierra on 5/5 last tue. We almost can't start as per scheduled due to swine flu, but luckily the alert was changed from orange to yellow. Hence was able to start again. She took the 1 time lucrin jab whereas I have to do the daily jab.
 
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