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panda: any idea the day of that lady BT? Normally in Care, which day is the BT?

nm: ur BT is earlier than mine leh. Mine is on D17 n 2day is only D10. my appetite has not been good for the past 2 days. Din really eat much for dinner. 2day seems better.. yeah..go test lah...me kancheong for u heehee
 
tzac: my BT is day 14/15 ..i cant really remember..jsut remembered that its sat and be there by 10...haha tats all...

now want to test but no pee feeling...hahaha maybe later..
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how come u go for bt on d17?
 
baby..can understand ur feeling.. i woke up 4am today..hehe..partly coz 2 excited to see the babies. i tink oscar scan is to check for DS. my gf says dr will measure the neck of bb...

update us after ur scan later...hee...excited for u too..
 
tzac..i dunno which day is tht lady. usually care will test us on d14 after ET.

nm...waiting for ur gd news! i hv gut feel u will join the multiple mtb club.....
 
nm: dunno too leh. for my earlier cycle, it is osso D17. Mayb that's the day for kkivf to do BT? i shd be there by 7.30am n hopefully before noon, will knw the results. u start work already?

live: i hope so too :)
 
nm, do you think its normal? Is it because i drank cold water?

anyone here, did u experience slight discharge during stimulation?
 
lubna: slight discharge is ok i guess...try not to drink cold water...ladies here suggest warm water but i drink room temp water at home but warm water when outside (in cafes/rest)

tzac: i am not working yet..if bfp i dont wanna work till end of first trimester....

panda: multiples? i am happy with any option...hahah
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but multiples sounds fun too...imagine 3 of you u plus u hounding yr hubby...hahahha
 
Lubna, buy a vacuum flask in office, so that you can drink warm water anytime. I have been doing that ever since my TCM advised me not to drink cold water. Its also better for general health. Our body and organs are room temp, so if any sudden change in temp may trigger some responses, in long term, it is no good, esp for woman.
 
nm, congrats!!! very happy for u. remember to bring the hpt to CARE on sat....
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ur hb oso knows right?? hee...

i just had chicken rice lunch... whole morning since i got home, feel very hungry... had 2 pieces of bread before the rice... now still dun feel full.......
 
he still sleepy but woke him up to see the hpt... he still blur and sleepy mode..haha

must bring for angela to see? will it fade by sat? still must bring urine sample for them?

u finished the whole chicken rice?
 
faith/tzac/panda: thanks for the well wishes....
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tzac: i see whether can take max ML/HL leave then if need be take no pay leave lo....

tzac: dont envy yrs is up and coming in a few days time
 
nm, by sat will not fade.. bring for angela or ning to see. no need bring urine sample liao. they will not do urine test again.. u can go there directly for BT. save $15. :p

my two hpt still shows very clearly the + signs until now.
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i never finish all the rice.. 1/4 of the rice plus a drumstick...
 
NM, congrats!!!! PandaWife wants you to bring the hpt there so that you dun have to test on hpt again. Can straightaway go for blood test. Heehee... happy for you!!!

So far, only my parents, MIL, hubby and kapo helper know. Will announce after 1st tri.
 
yup..urine test $15..

bt must wait for ning to call u back with the results. i was told hpt is accurate enuff.. bt is to check the hcg level....see if need hcg jab and mayb can tell if single or multiple.
 
just faith: thank u..
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heheh i told granny cos she stay with me and tomorrow she got to chk up so must tell her why i cant go with her and must have aunt to go with her...
 
nm, can share ur sympthoms n what u do with us?
I feel I getting depressed by the day cos I dun feel anything.
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Tzac, u testing today?
 
faith:i have very good appetite (as observed by hubby) cos i eat alot now which is the opp of previous. dont despair cos not everyone is the same. sore bb were on and off ...light headed at times (not always)

popy: i had 3 embbies transferred.
 
Wow, congrats nm!
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Yes, cannot tell others yet, chinese pantang one. But I told my family, my husband's family, a few of my close colleague and my direct boss, coz at least the bosses will not give that much of work knowing that I bfp. :p
I am doing fine, not much symptoms even after bfp. My mum also told me when she had me, she didnt have morning sickness or puking etc, but I thot its still early to know. Now only week 5.

So happy for you, nm! Must take more rest.
 
rose: good to hear yr doing well...
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by the way is it ok to drink chinese herbal soups so early in the preg ? some say ok some say too early?
 
Thxs nm for sharing. For me, my apetitte still abt the same, sore boobs on & off, kind of suan suan feeling ard the jab area on & off, last few day & ytdy go out a while I feel light headed (Cos I low blood pressure so didn't feel is a sympthoms)
This morn, i was telling DH I used to my 2 darling embroys inside me n I dun wan them to leave me. He jus reply leave it to fate loh.
 
NM, I was eating very well during my 2ww and btwn 4 to 6 weeks. Everything become haywire after that. Hope you get high readings this saturday.

Rose, glad that your mum dun hv MS. My mum had it all the way till 4months. So I know what to expect.
 
My advise is better not. I did some research, ginseng and dan gui is a no no in 1st tri, risky.
In fact, in 1st tri just eat healthy and balanced diet, dun eat tonic coz its the time where the foetus developed its organs etc. Crucial period.

My mother in law wanted to brew me shi san tai bao and I told her not to, coz too early to drink such tonic, maybe 2nd tri see how.

Or if you got TCM doc, can seek their advise too based on your body condition.

I only drink essence of chicken, 1-2 time a week to boast my energy. Lately slept quite a lot, dun noe if its me plain lazy or the symptoms.
 
nm,
congrats on yr bfp!!
it's ok to take herbal soup but must make sure u know what herbs are inside, dun take like those dang gui etc. it's ok to drink in the sense it's bu and provided u know what's in it. it's too early in the sense that u drink now it doesn't go to the bb directly, it will just go to u. if u want it to go the bb then 2nd tri drink is better.
 
thanks rose for the advice...i will ask the doc abt it cos granny being granny will want to boil soup...
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just faith: hmm...lets see how my adventure will be..
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this is the beginning of a new chapter
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i will take one step at a time
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nm.. angela told me ok to take some ginseng n cordyceps...but nt too much.

my tcm an tai med oso has these two herbs...n they both advise to stop all herbs once clear 1st tri...dun want bb to be too big too early.
 
found this on the internet:


Is it safe to take Chinese medicine during pregnancy?

By Seah Ai Wei, TCM Physician
Thomson Chinese Medicine

This is a question often asked by first time mothers or those who have had experienced multiple miscarriages and are anxious to do everything possible to ensure a smooth pregnancy. One of the most common alternatives that surface during the quest is to take Chinese medicine, or what is popularly known as “安胎药” (An Tai Yao).

An Tai Yao refers to a group of prescriptions that have been specifically formulated to secure the womb. This is in line with the Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM) belief that the womb, also called the “child’s palace” plays a primary role in nurturing the fetus. During the 10 months of pregnancy, the uterus also depends heavily on other organs to supply the “气”(Qi,vital energy), “血”(Xue, blood)and “精”(Jing, vital essence)via the Extra Meridians to nourish the uterus that provides nourishment for the fetus. Only when these organs and meridians are functioning well, then can the uterus work normally.

Over the thousands of years, many prescriptions have been formulated and the different treatment objectives include nourishing the Kidney (responsible for storing the vital essence), Spleen (that governs the blood), Liver (organ that stores blood), strengthening the vital energy (Qi), warming the uterus, clearing excessive heat, tonifying the blood etc. As a result, many concoctions were developed to meet the different needs and some like 寿胎丸(Shou Tai Wan)and 杜仲丸(Du Zhong Wan)are still prevalently used today.

It seems reasonable then to conclude that all mothers should consume An Tai Yao for the whole duration of pregnancy, or at least during the first trimester when the risks of miscarriage is higher. Following this line of thought, some might even make use of this period as an opportunity to devour ginseng and other tonics to strengthen one’s body and womb.

The truth however is this – women who are pregnant should be careful with ALL medication and this applies to Chinese medicine as well. Especially during the first trimester when the body is adapting to rising levels of hormones and many may be experiencing symptoms such as nausea, vomiting, sluggishness, fatigue, poor sleep and mood swings, taking tonics at this point will not help but may even aggravate the situation.

The guideline for taking Chinese medicine during pregnancy is this – it should not be taken as a prophylaxis (for preventive purposes) but as and when the situation warrants the use i.e. when there is a threat of miscarriage or if symptoms are severe and affecting the mother or baby’s well-being. The provison here is that you should stop using these herbs as soon as the symptoms go away. Even then, there is a long list of herbs that are contraindicated in pregnant women. Thus it is crucial that mothers-to-be do not randomly take these medicine but rather, under the strict supervision of a qualified physician.
 



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