IVF at NUH--feedback pls
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thks jamp
i know my own body well. everytime b4 AF comes, will hv some symptoms. these symptoms started during the wkend so sometimes hv to face reality. no strike means no strike. the other ladies who r more 'experienced' than me in iui understand y my attempt this time will be failure as they commented that day 19 to do IUI is too late. somemore i'm not given medications to control AF.
Dear Sisters
Need help!!!
My ivf failed, menses report 16 Nov, full menses for 4-5 days, follows by spotting for 5-6 days, after clear for 5- 6 days, the spotting is back again, these few days (from day 15days), tummy slight pain, see spotting 2x yesterday and this morning.
And anyone encounter this?
Is this normal?
Very worry
Need help!!!
My ivf failed, menses report 16 Nov, full menses for 4-5 days, follows by spotting for 5-6 days, after clear for 5- 6 days, the spotting is back again, these few days (from day 15days), tummy slight pain, see spotting 2x yesterday and this morning.
And anyone encounter this?
Is this normal?
Very worry
hi lookingforward,
For my 2 ivf, i have full af for 3 days, followed by spotting 4-5 days. then few days later the spotting came bk for another few days. But i dun hav tummy pain. Mayb u wanna to call CHR to check with the nurses. It is better to go for for a us if the pain persist to ensure no cysts on the ovaries.
For my 2 ivf, i have full af for 3 days, followed by spotting 4-5 days. then few days later the spotting came bk for another few days. But i dun hav tummy pain. Mayb u wanna to call CHR to check with the nurses. It is better to go for for a us if the pain persist to ensure no cysts on the ovaries.
soulasylum
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Yay Andreanie!!! Congrats to you!
I can't wait to know mine! I wonder if Dr Su will be able to see my baby's gender next Tuesday.... I'll be 16+ weeks then!
soul - i tried to know the gender during 16 weeks but end up Dr Chew didnt do any scanning but only hear heartbeat via doppler hehe.. i asked my cousin who is with Dr Su, she said also same, 16 weeks visit just listen to heartbeat. Lets see if you're lucky!
Thanks Jamp!
Thanks Jamp!
soulasylum
New Member
@Andreanie: Hmm... If in that case, I'll ask her for a scan. *wink* I'm really dying to know! Lol!
bluenosebear
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Andreanie- congrats. K start shopping
Andreannie, yeahhh.. Congrats on the boy boy in your tummy
Talking abt week 16, I think around that week I had appt with Dr Su. I think it's the routine to hear heartbeat only. However we requested for the scan. She willingly obliged and when we asked abt gender she said may be a girl as it was not clear.
Talking abt week 16, I think around that week I had appt with Dr Su. I think it's the routine to hear heartbeat only. However we requested for the scan. She willingly obliged and when we asked abt gender she said may be a girl as it was not clear.
Thank you everyone! Hehehe.. yes Blue can start shopping already, infact i went to shop already once i left NUH yesterday haha...
Doramee - When I was 17 weeks, my tummy still not big. But when I turned 18 weeks, it starts to get big even my sis and my colleague notices! I still have abit of B shaped tummy, and slowly turning to a D shape now at 21 weeks. I only feel my baby kicking during the late days of my 17 weeks. Once its 18 weeks, full force already can almost feel him every other day. Most times when sitting down, lying down, early morning and at night.
Soul - what tub said is true. Boys will be easier to identify cos it was very clear for us yesterday. No need for the sonographer to say, I shouted myself "Its a BOY!" and it was caught on video haha... If baby gal, normally gynae will confirm again at the next scan. SO happen that a friend of mine, all the way her gynae tot its a baby gal from her detailed scan right up to her other visits but end up at her 35 weeks scan, ITS A BOY! lol! She had to give away all the girls clothes and start shopping again for her lil boy hehee...
Jamp - Im so sorry! I totally forgotten to ask him. Infact I only see him less than 5 mins yesterday cos he said everything is fine and then thats it, see me again end of the month and gave me mc and then i can go home already. My next appt is on 29/12, i hope i'll remember to ask him for u yeah!
Doramee - When I was 17 weeks, my tummy still not big. But when I turned 18 weeks, it starts to get big even my sis and my colleague notices! I still have abit of B shaped tummy, and slowly turning to a D shape now at 21 weeks. I only feel my baby kicking during the late days of my 17 weeks. Once its 18 weeks, full force already can almost feel him every other day. Most times when sitting down, lying down, early morning and at night.
Soul - what tub said is true. Boys will be easier to identify cos it was very clear for us yesterday. No need for the sonographer to say, I shouted myself "Its a BOY!" and it was caught on video haha... If baby gal, normally gynae will confirm again at the next scan. SO happen that a friend of mine, all the way her gynae tot its a baby gal from her detailed scan right up to her other visits but end up at her 35 weeks scan, ITS A BOY! lol! She had to give away all the girls clothes and start shopping again for her lil boy hehee...
Jamp - Im so sorry! I totally forgotten to ask him. Infact I only see him less than 5 mins yesterday cos he said everything is fine and then thats it, see me again end of the month and gave me mc and then i can go home already. My next appt is on 29/12, i hope i'll remember to ask him for u yeah!
soulasylum
New Member
@Andreanie & Tub: Haha! All the better for me then! Hubs and I are hoping for a boy
. But Andreanie... I really pity your friend! She had to give away baby clothes after she had spent money on them?? I wouldn't want that to happen... I guess, I'll start shopping for clothes at the later stage then. Haha!
@Looking Forward: Yes, Dr Su is from NUH.
@Su: I remember you mentioning that Dr Su obliged to your request for a scan at no cost! Well... I don't dare to hope for freebies. I'll just prepare the $$$, just in case.
My hubs and I are willing to pay extra to see the "goods". Hehe!
@Looking Forward: Yes, Dr Su is from NUH.
@Su: I remember you mentioning that Dr Su obliged to your request for a scan at no cost! Well... I don't dare to hope for freebies. I'll just prepare the $$$, just in case.
Soul, maybe that time they had forgotten to bill me for the scan.. Hehe.
I think when we go thru this ivf journey, boy or girl it does not matter as long every thing is fine. I want a girl so when dr su mentioned maybe it's a girl, I was delighted but still waited for detailed scan to confirm again.
I only shop when I was abt 6 mths. That time, bought quite a number of pinkie stuff. I asked a friend if diagnosis can e wrong and she said its posible. So after that I tried buying neutral colours though there are still times where I bought dresses. Luckily no need to give away
I think when we go thru this ivf journey, boy or girl it does not matter as long every thing is fine. I want a girl so when dr su mentioned maybe it's a girl, I was delighted but still waited for detailed scan to confirm again.
I only shop when I was abt 6 mths. That time, bought quite a number of pinkie stuff. I asked a friend if diagnosis can e wrong and she said its posible. So after that I tried buying neutral colours though there are still times where I bought dresses. Luckily no need to give away
Su - i bought gal clothes even before i was preggy and start on ivf haha..hoping to give to my friends as presents or keep for my own but since its a boy, i'll keep them cute stuff for our 2nd/3rd baby! Now i start to shop and look for matching outfits with the daddy hehehe...
Soul - if boy, it will show up really clear. can see the shape of the balls and penis hehehe so u can start shopping once u see those shapes! if girl, just wait some more for the next scan to confirm again ok!
Soul - if boy, it will show up really clear. can see the shape of the balls and penis hehehe so u can start shopping once u see those shapes! if girl, just wait some more for the next scan to confirm again ok!
soulasylum
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Su, I get what you mean. All my friends said the same too, "as long as the baby's healthy". I believe this not only apply to IVF journeys, but to regular pregnancies as well. Women who got pregnant naturally hope for the same thing too. But I'm sure at some point, those women hope for something extra too, be it gender... Or better IQ even! Lol! But I can't say to them that, it doesn't matter if he or she has better IQ. Because what matters to them, only they know. And that's perfectly fine. One thing I learn through life is, what matters to you, might not matter to someone else and vice versa. Just my humble opinion.
soulasylum
New Member
Andreanie, I bought a few baby clothes and socks for boys right before I started IVF! Lol! My friends called me kiasu, but I call it "positive thinking" *wink wink*. Lol! I like those with catchy words on them, like "If you think I'm cute, wait until you see my dad". Haha! How cheeky!
But like Su said, my baby's well being comes first. Really really can't wait for Tuesday! I've been driving myself crazy with online baby gender predictor! Lol!
tub
Active Member
Gals, do u take Tcm from suprefact to et? I feel a little insecure with no Tcm med to take now. Only tcm stuff i take now is cordyceps soup once or twice a week. Do u take after the et? If so, how soon after?
Can I also ask how many egg whites to take during stim and how many after er and et? Thanks so much for advise!
Can I also ask how many egg whites to take during stim and how many after er and et? Thanks so much for advise!
tub
Active Member
Haha soul, andreanie and su, u hv to keep reminding yourself that well being and not iq is the most impt as they grow older! ;p it's inevitable that we tend to forget about how difficult it was for us to conceive as they get bigger and focus on things like how fast they talk, speak, write, play the piano and so on. It's not ez but I guess thus journey is a constant reminder of what's impt in life. Perhaps Ivf is a blessing in disguise when we look back. 
soulasylum
New Member
@Tub: While I was under Prof Wong, he strongly advised me not to take any TCM. Even CHR nurse Jane, who was originally from China I think, told me, "no TCM". I don't know why either, but I followed their advice religiously. Maybe Western medicine just don't blend well with Eastern ones?? I started increasing my protein intake during stimulation stage (Ensure milk, 2-3 egg whites and Brazil nuts daily) up until my 2ww was over. That was to prevent OHSS. I had 16 follicles, so there was a risk of OHSS.
Our children's well being is most important, I agree
. I just hope that I will not be one of those mothers who place too much emphasis on our aspirations for our children, instead of paying attention to our children's own aspirations. To me personally, the challenges I faced during IVF is nothing compared to the challenges I will face as a mother to my baby. The responsibility is big, countless to list here. Will he/she grow up as a responsible, kind, generous, considerate person? I have to prepare myself for that, because like it or not, as parents, we play a huge part in our children's development. Frankly, seeing today's teenagers and young adults' behaviours don't give me much hope . But I will keep on doing my best
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Our children's well being is most important, I agree
. But I will keep on doing my best
soulasylum
New Member
Thanks Tub! You jia you too!!
I will keep reminding myself not to be the kiasu parents.
I want her to grow up according to what she can. So far I'm able to do so. The only kiasu thing I've done is to buy and but clothes for her. Some even when she's 12 mths
They are just to pretty la to resist.
One funny thing abt gender.
As I'm the mummy carrying the baby, I've got no dream to the gender. Not sure if I've got my ivf result or not, hubby cousin dreamt ive given birth to baby girl. When she told hubby abt her dream, I just confirmed BFF but she did not know abt it. Only know much later. So when the scan confirm the gender she was proud to claim het dream was reliable
I want her to grow up according to what she can. So far I'm able to do so. The only kiasu thing I've done is to buy and but clothes for her. Some even when she's 12 mths
They are just to pretty la to resist.
One funny thing abt gender.
As I'm the mummy carrying the baby, I've got no dream to the gender. Not sure if I've got my ivf result or not, hubby cousin dreamt ive given birth to baby girl. When she told hubby abt her dream, I just confirmed BFF but she did not know abt it. Only know much later. So when the scan confirm the gender she was proud to claim het dream was reliable
Wow ladies, plenty of bb talks here.
Yep, I remember when I was carrying my firstborn, the implantation was very low, I was on bed rest the first tri and all I prayed for was tat the pregnancy stablised. Didn't even buy any maternity clothes until 1st Tri ov, dr gave permission to go bk to wk.
Then I started to worry abt gender, I knew hubby wld love to hv a boy, was so worried when mil said she felt mine ought to be gal.
After he was born, I worried abt his size as he was a small bb, birth wt was jux 2.765kg. He was always the shortest in class, but the most active & mischievous!
Then I worried abt which kinder childcare to send him to, Shld I send him for music lesson n tuition so tat he'd hv a good start in Pri sch, do tat he'd not 'lose' to peers who had been to those classes.
After I lost him, then I realized tat nothing is eternal on earth, the fact tat we can lose someone so dear in jux a day. I've learnt a painful lesson, tat time is of essence, we've got to cherish the time we hv w our love ones, not falling into the lie of rat race. Hubby till this day still blames me for sending our precious boy for those extra lessons which he could otherwise stay hm and rest. He had led a hectic life w us in having to wake up early and sleeping late as we hv to send him to childcare early morning & fetch him from my mum's place aft work at nite.
Given another chance of becoming parents again, I'll make sure I do not repeat the same mistakes I made. 1st child usually has to 'suffer' a little as parents learn from trial n error.
Different stages different worries, this is normal. Relax ladies!
Soul, hope u'll hv a bb boy. But u must hv a gal later ya, to inherit yr beauty!
Andreanie, it's ok, doesn't matter, I understand. Enjoy yr shopping!
Tub, prof told us reason behind not taking TCM during ivf treatment n after confirming BFP is tat the contents of the TCM med is unknown, 'we dont know wat is inside' he said
Yep, I remember when I was carrying my firstborn, the implantation was very low, I was on bed rest the first tri and all I prayed for was tat the pregnancy stablised. Didn't even buy any maternity clothes until 1st Tri ov, dr gave permission to go bk to wk.
Then I started to worry abt gender, I knew hubby wld love to hv a boy, was so worried when mil said she felt mine ought to be gal.
After he was born, I worried abt his size as he was a small bb, birth wt was jux 2.765kg. He was always the shortest in class, but the most active & mischievous!
Then I worried abt which kinder childcare to send him to, Shld I send him for music lesson n tuition so tat he'd hv a good start in Pri sch, do tat he'd not 'lose' to peers who had been to those classes.
After I lost him, then I realized tat nothing is eternal on earth, the fact tat we can lose someone so dear in jux a day. I've learnt a painful lesson, tat time is of essence, we've got to cherish the time we hv w our love ones, not falling into the lie of rat race. Hubby till this day still blames me for sending our precious boy for those extra lessons which he could otherwise stay hm and rest. He had led a hectic life w us in having to wake up early and sleeping late as we hv to send him to childcare early morning & fetch him from my mum's place aft work at nite.
Given another chance of becoming parents again, I'll make sure I do not repeat the same mistakes I made. 1st child usually has to 'suffer' a little as parents learn from trial n error.
Different stages different worries, this is normal. Relax ladies!
Soul, hope u'll hv a bb boy. But u must hv a gal later ya, to inherit yr beauty!
Andreanie, it's ok, doesn't matter, I understand. Enjoy yr shopping!
Tub, prof told us reason behind not taking TCM during ivf treatment n after confirming BFP is tat the contents of the TCM med is unknown, 'we dont know wat is inside' he said
Jamp, what you had shared is really an opener to me. Thanks for sharing though it may be hard on you.
It is true, all the material aspect that is nothing. I really hope I will not change my way of direction as what I already have now.
I know of someone already signing up pre school though the child is only 3 months old. SOme are already thinking of where to put their child for their primary school education.
At this point, i believe any school is good. I will put her in any school that is near my home. I really hope this will continue to the day i need to register her for primary 1.
Have a nice evening ladies.
It is true, all the material aspect that is nothing. I really hope I will not change my way of direction as what I already have now.
I know of someone already signing up pre school though the child is only 3 months old. SOme are already thinking of where to put their child for their primary school education.
At this point, i believe any school is good. I will put her in any school that is near my home. I really hope this will continue to the day i need to register her for primary 1.
Have a nice evening ladies.
soulasylum
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@Jamp: Hi Jamp
! How are you? And thank you for your kind and wise words! As to having a girl to "inherit my beauty"... well... *blush* I really do not know what to say to that! Lol! But I'm worried that my hubby might have to ground her until she's 30. LOL! I think he can imagine situations where she starts dating, and the kind of men she will be dating... I was once a teenager too... So, I do get where he's coming from! Lol. Speaking of teenagers... I don't know how relevant this is to this thread, but I think it's only fair for me to share this, since most ladies here share their backgrounds and heartbreaking stories, like yours. I'm not a first time mother, I have a 15 year old teenage boy, whom I am so proud of
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I have my reasons for not revealing this earlier on, but my intention was never to mislead anyone. I conceived my son naturally when I was 15, and his biological father was a better magician than Harry Houdini when it comes to disappearing acts. It was a tough and dark time for me. And I do not wish to talk more about it in a public thread
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Reading your story, I sincerely felt for you. And no parents should have to bury their children. And what you said above was totally right. Time is of essence. Live life to the fullest, that's what I've been telling my son. Personally, I do not prefer to be a working mother. Although, I do understand the necessity for some women to have jobs. Considering the standard of living in Singapore, who can blame them? But this also cause the need for helpers or grandparents to look after our children. I do not believe in all that, nor do I believe in joining the rat race. Why have children if we're just going to let others take care of them? But then again, I understand fully.
I always tell my son to be the best that he can, and live without regrets. There are more important things in life than academics. I believe that it is important for him to learn to be kind, generous, forgiving, honest, trustworthy, humble, strong, helpful, respectful toward others etc. When he got home from school one day and told me, "Mama, I got first in class, and also in standard!!". I was so happy for him! But the thing that made me happy the most, was when he was awarded "Student of the Semester", due to his conduct in school. Especially the part where his teacher mentioned how helpful he was toward his teachers and peers, even without being asked. That was when I really believe.... Yes... I have done my part
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It is not my place to say that your hubby should not be blaming you, because I'm sure he had suffered the same pain as you did, and maybe that is his way of coping. But I do pray that he would stop, because there is no need to add more pain. It is also not my place to tell you, stop blaming yourself. You have done all you can, and what you thought was best for you and your family. But I do pray that God will help ease your pain and help you move on. I really do admire your strength and patience Jamp
. If you ever need a friend, my door is open
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Being a single parent was not easy... I thank God daily for the blessings he has given me... A wonderful son, and a wonderful husband who could accept and love my son as his own.
God I talk too much!!! LOL! I better stop now before someone starts to throw virtual shoes at me. Take care Jamp! And remember, you have a friend in me if you ever need one
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I have my reasons for not revealing this earlier on, but my intention was never to mislead anyone. I conceived my son naturally when I was 15, and his biological father was a better magician than Harry Houdini when it comes to disappearing acts. It was a tough and dark time for me. And I do not wish to talk more about it in a public thread
Reading your story, I sincerely felt for you. And no parents should have to bury their children. And what you said above was totally right. Time is of essence. Live life to the fullest, that's what I've been telling my son. Personally, I do not prefer to be a working mother. Although, I do understand the necessity for some women to have jobs. Considering the standard of living in Singapore, who can blame them? But this also cause the need for helpers or grandparents to look after our children. I do not believe in all that, nor do I believe in joining the rat race. Why have children if we're just going to let others take care of them? But then again, I understand fully.
I always tell my son to be the best that he can, and live without regrets. There are more important things in life than academics. I believe that it is important for him to learn to be kind, generous, forgiving, honest, trustworthy, humble, strong, helpful, respectful toward others etc. When he got home from school one day and told me, "Mama, I got first in class, and also in standard!!". I was so happy for him! But the thing that made me happy the most, was when he was awarded "Student of the Semester", due to his conduct in school. Especially the part where his teacher mentioned how helpful he was toward his teachers and peers, even without being asked. That was when I really believe.... Yes... I have done my part
It is not my place to say that your hubby should not be blaming you, because I'm sure he had suffered the same pain as you did, and maybe that is his way of coping. But I do pray that he would stop, because there is no need to add more pain. It is also not my place to tell you, stop blaming yourself. You have done all you can, and what you thought was best for you and your family. But I do pray that God will help ease your pain and help you move on. I really do admire your strength and patience Jamp
Being a single parent was not easy... I thank God daily for the blessings he has given me... A wonderful son, and a wonderful husband who could accept and love my son as his own.
God I talk too much!!! LOL! I better stop now before someone starts to throw virtual shoes at me
. Take care Jamp! And remember, you have a friend in me if you ever need one
tub
Active Member
Soul and jamp, thank u for sharing. Your stories put many things in perspective. When my daughter was born with neonatal lupus, i used to tell myself I just wanted her to be normal. She came into this world with a big red butterfly patch on her tiny grouchy face and 3 distinct holes, yes holes on her forehead. Like someone had used a spoon to dig into those delicate skin. I cried every night after her birth and I remembered thinking that I just wanted her to be like any other kid, just look like any other baby and I'll be happy. But she didn't. Nd I learnt to accept her condition. I learnt to love her for what she looked like, not what i wanted her to look like She may hv recovered after so many years but the memory of her birth and all the comments i got are still deeply etched in my mind.
We may hv dreams for our kids but what is impt is that they lead a happy normal life, guided by morals and values. Soul, I would be v proud of your son too. It's not ez to get the student of the yr award and good job, mummy!!!
We may hv dreams for our kids but what is impt is that they lead a happy normal life, guided by morals and values. Soul, I would be v proud of your son too. It's not ez to get the student of the yr award and good job, mummy!!!
soulasylum
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@Tub: Thank you Tub! You're a one hell of a mummy too
. People can be cruel with their comments, God knows I had my fair share of those. But you have handled them courageously and choose to look forward instead of letting them affect you. I read a- what I believe to be a Chinese saying, which goes "There is only one beautiful child in the world and every mother has one". So celebrate! For your daughter is also the most beautiful child in the world
. My son has lazy eye on his left one, so he can only see through his right. But that never stopped him from enjoying what life has to offer
. So don't worry Tub... I believe your lovely little girl will be just fine
. And thank you for sharing your story too
. God bless!
Soul, thanks for sharing yr story. It took me some time to decide to share mine w u ladies. I feel that I've gotta share my thoughts eg. to start fam planning early & to hv more than one child, to cherish every moment we hv w our love ones, to nv let career get into our way of fam planning etc. I'll nag at u all as time goes by. This r things I feel I gonna share from experience of a sorrowful mum who has lost her most precious. Yes, Su, the wound is still raw n painful. But I'm glad that he is now safe in the arms of our good Lord.
Soul, u've gone thru' a lot, thank God that yr life experience has thought u to be so full of wisdom. Kudos to u for bringing up such a fine boy under such tough circumstance.
Thank you do much for willing to be my friend. I'm so touched. May go knock on your door some day
. R u working now?
Su & Tub, am sure both you are/will be great mummies! Su, if we r still in contact in 6 yrs' time, & u r stress abt w branded sch to enrol yr gal, I'll remind u abt what u said abt enrolling her in the sch nearest to hm ;p hahaha
Good nite ladies, sleep tight, God bless all of you!
Soul, u've gone thru' a lot, thank God that yr life experience has thought u to be so full of wisdom. Kudos to u for bringing up such a fine boy under such tough circumstance.
Thank you do much for willing to be my friend. I'm so touched. May go knock on your door some day
Su & Tub, am sure both you are/will be great mummies! Su, if we r still in contact in 6 yrs' time, & u r stress abt w branded sch to enrol yr gal, I'll remind u abt what u said abt enrolling her in the sch nearest to hm ;p hahaha
Good nite ladies, sleep tight, God bless all of you!
Soul, kudos on you for bringing up your boy in the right direction. Under your circumstance, you have done well.
All mummies will want a perfect child. However there will be some that may not be able to have it that way. After giving birth to my girl, constantly I hope things will turn out ok.
I'm a teacher so I see lots of children. Perfect n not so. It's an opener to me. The rat race n spore do affect their childhood. This is what I feel. They attend so many classes that I feel they are busier than me. So far in my career, I only came across one whose mum is very relaxed towards her child's study. Another extra activities which are not so important she will be the only one that will opt out.
Jamp, pls remind me in 6 yrs time what ive posted earlier
This thread is indeed an enrichment avenue for me to learn about things which I may have not think about in the past.
All mummies will want a perfect child. However there will be some that may not be able to have it that way. After giving birth to my girl, constantly I hope things will turn out ok.
I'm a teacher so I see lots of children. Perfect n not so. It's an opener to me. The rat race n spore do affect their childhood. This is what I feel. They attend so many classes that I feel they are busier than me. So far in my career, I only came across one whose mum is very relaxed towards her child's study. Another extra activities which are not so important she will be the only one that will opt out.
Jamp, pls remind me in 6 yrs time what ive posted earlier
This thread is indeed an enrichment avenue for me to learn about things which I may have not think about in the past.
soulasylum
New Member
@Jamp: The pleasure is all mine
. No Jamp, I'm not working. Haven't been for almost 4 years now
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@Su: Thanks
! And my boy did it all without any tuition or extra enrichment classes. So, it's entirely possible to have a balanced life in Singapore
. Being the youngest parent among his peers', can be unnerving sometimes. I always worry that my son's teachers might not take me seriously. He also said, having a stay-at-home parent makes a lot of difference
. We retain a healthy mother and son friendship too, which includes sharing his interest in music, video games, girls.... I believe that to be very important in parenting
. I feel perfection is over rated. If everyone and everything is perfect, there will be no room for creation, evolution and improvement right ? Imperfections make life perfect... That's what I believe
. So celebrate! For everyone is perfect
. Just my 2 cents
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@Su: Thanks
? Imperfections make life perfect... That's what I believe
Su, I will
Soul, yes, if I can turn back the clock, I'll definitely choose to be a stay home mum for my precious son. He had been asking me time and again to stay at home for him, to wait for him to come back from school, to help him with his homework. He mentioned this desire before his passing too. My heart is bleeding as i write this post. But hubby all along felt insecure w single income, even more so after little boy fell sick. How I wish I had resigned earlier to spend more time w him. But we didn't know he'd leave us so suddenly. We let him led life as normal as could be, he was still going to sch the week before his passing. I even packed his notes to hosp for revision.
He loves babies, yearns to have siblings. He goes to my bro's place aft sch everyday, his playmate is my niece who is 2 years older. I thought 'it's good enough' that he gets to play with the cousin, but she'll show him 'colour' every now and then. Will ask my poor son to get out of her house if she's not happy. I felt guilty about this, and also that I didn't let him hv a chance to be kor kor. :'(
Sorry sistas, think the gloomy weather is affecting me.
Soul, spread yr happiness to us often on this thread, k?
Soul, yes, if I can turn back the clock, I'll definitely choose to be a stay home mum for my precious son. He had been asking me time and again to stay at home for him, to wait for him to come back from school, to help him with his homework. He mentioned this desire before his passing too. My heart is bleeding as i write this post. But hubby all along felt insecure w single income, even more so after little boy fell sick. How I wish I had resigned earlier to spend more time w him. But we didn't know he'd leave us so suddenly. We let him led life as normal as could be, he was still going to sch the week before his passing. I even packed his notes to hosp for revision.
He loves babies, yearns to have siblings. He goes to my bro's place aft sch everyday, his playmate is my niece who is 2 years older. I thought 'it's good enough' that he gets to play with the cousin, but she'll show him 'colour' every now and then. Will ask my poor son to get out of her house if she's not happy. I felt guilty about this, and also that I didn't let him hv a chance to be kor kor. :'(
Sorry sistas, think the gloomy weather is affecting me.
Soul, spread yr happiness to us often on this thread, k?
bluenosebear
Active Member
After reading the stories, really Kudos to jamp, soul & tub.
Yr went thr so much.
But is really opener to me after reading them. Yr are so strong to have gone thr so much.
Yr went thr so much.
But is really opener to me after reading them. Yr are so strong to have gone thr so much.
soulasylum
New Member
@Jamp: Oh Jamp... How I wish I was next to you when you typed those words so I could give you a hug... I feel your sorrow. I can only imagine how hard it is, but like you and I said before, he is in a very good place with the Lord. I can't tell you not to be sad, nor can I tell you things will be okay. I know you miss him daily, and you carry that pain with you every minute of the day. But I can say one thing... Try to forget the sad things in the past, instead... think of the happy memories you've had with your precious boy. When he was happy, and laughing... being his cute little self. And also, try to imagine how he feels if he sees you sad everyday? I believe he is happy and loved where he is at now, waiting for you to reunite with him one day. But seeing his mummy sad... I'm sure he feels sad too. I'm sorry if I crossed the line by saying this. My intention is to show you perspective, as a friend
.
I have had my fair share of cruel treatments by my own family members. To this very day, my own mother and relatives view me as nothing more than a 15 year old girl who gave birth to a child out of wedlock. No matter what kind of achievements that I've gotten for myself, to them... I will always be that girl. My son and I have become a stigma. It's pathetic when I think of it, how some people are just so ignorant. I used to be so affected by their verbal abuse, that I had forgotten how to live my life as I should. As I grow older, I understand why they do the things they do. I can't change them, but I can certainly change myself and be better. So, who cares what they say? My son and I know who we are... That is all that matters
. What they do or say, can no longer harm us. There's only power in injustice only if you let it.
So Jamp... Rejoice. For life is still beautiful, and full of opportunities for us as God intend it to be. Life does not stop when a tragedy happens. Only you can fill back that gaping hole in you. Look forward to the future, with optimism for God will not neglect those who needs and asks for Him
. I believe so
. Because He never neglects me when I need and ask for Him
.
Go for another cycle. Try again. But this time, go forward with optimism. State what you want out loud, with 100% confidence, determination and conviction. See what happens
. I have learned that when things "fail", they do not necessarily mean that they were wrong or bad. There are good reasons behind everything that happens. It all depends on how you view them
.
I should stop now before I risk myself sounding too much of a preacher. I wish you well Jamp. Please do not hesitate to "knock on my door" if you need to. Let me know how we could get in touch with each other
.
@Blue: Thank you Blue
. We are all strong women, including you, no exception. It's just that we have gone through different things.
@Nilla: Thank you Nilla
. I wish you all the luck in the world. And may you be blessed with a beautiful baby in the near future
.
Although it rains, always remember... behind those dark clouds, the Sun will always be there
. Baby dust to all!!! Smile!
I have had my fair share of cruel treatments by my own family members. To this very day, my own mother and relatives view me as nothing more than a 15 year old girl who gave birth to a child out of wedlock. No matter what kind of achievements that I've gotten for myself, to them... I will always be that girl. My son and I have become a stigma. It's pathetic when I think of it, how some people are just so ignorant. I used to be so affected by their verbal abuse, that I had forgotten how to live my life as I should. As I grow older, I understand why they do the things they do. I can't change them, but I can certainly change myself and be better. So, who cares what they say? My son and I know who we are... That is all that matters
So Jamp... Rejoice. For life is still beautiful, and full of opportunities for us as God intend it to be. Life does not stop when a tragedy happens. Only you can fill back that gaping hole in you. Look forward to the future, with optimism for God will not neglect those who needs and asks for Him
Go for another cycle. Try again. But this time, go forward with optimism. State what you want out loud, with 100% confidence, determination and conviction. See what happens
I should stop now before I risk myself sounding too much of a preacher
. I wish you well Jamp. Please do not hesitate to "knock on my door" if you need to. Let me know how we could get in touch with each other
@Blue: Thank you Blue
@Nilla: Thank you Nilla
Although it rains, always remember... behind those dark clouds, the Sun will always be there
Blue, I admire you for taking the failures in stride. Sincerely hope you'll strike the nx round, or even naturally very very soon.
Niila, all the best. Waiting for yr good news in 2 weeks' time.
Soul, u made me teared. Thank you so much for all the kind words.
You are right, we shouldnt be affected by what others say about us. Anyway, the mouth is theirs, we cant stop them. but I've also learned to be really careful to whom I share my story with. There are nasty pple out there who cant wait to make life more difficult for pple like us who have gone through real tough situations. I'll tell them to get out of my life, anyway, there's nothing else on earth I'm fearful of after losing my precious son.
I'll pm you my contact
Niila, all the best. Waiting for yr good news in 2 weeks' time.
Soul, u made me teared. Thank you so much for all the kind words.
You are right, we shouldnt be affected by what others say about us. Anyway, the mouth is theirs, we cant stop them. but I've also learned to be really careful to whom I share my story with. There are nasty pple out there who cant wait to make life more difficult for pple like us who have gone through real tough situations. I'll tell them to get out of my life, anyway, there's nothing else on earth I'm fearful of after losing my precious son.
I'll pm you my contact
Jiaxin, just bring along whatever test results you have from other hospital, if any.
You'll be asked a series of questions, prof will then check you and order series of tests for yourself and your hubby & a review date will be fixed after the test results are out.
You'll be asked a series of questions, prof will then check you and order series of tests for yourself and your hubby & a review date will be fixed after the test results are out.
soulasylum
New Member
Jamp, I have changed my profile setting. I should be able to receive private messages now.
Jiaxin, below is summary for ivf process
1. Suppression jabs for 2 weeks
2. Scan to check, if no cyst and all else ok, Stimulation jabs (gonal f) for another 2 or more weeks (depending on individual response)
3. Eggs Retrieval
4. Eggs Transfer on 3rd day
5. 2ww
Whole process takes about 6 weeks based on long protocol
1. Suppression jabs for 2 weeks
2. Scan to check, if no cyst and all else ok, Stimulation jabs (gonal f) for another 2 or more weeks (depending on individual response)
3. Eggs Retrieval
4. Eggs Transfer on 3rd day
5. 2ww
Whole process takes about 6 weeks based on long protocol
soulasylum
New Member
@Jamp: I've replied
.
@Su: Thank you
.
@Su: Thank you
Su, thank you! but now still waiting for menses to come, already 9 weeks after d & c!!! dr zou says could be due to scraping too deep during d & c, dunno whether there's scientific backing for this claim? Prof says do hysteroscopy after 2nd mense, so now cannot do anything
Soul, received already, tks!
hahaha, This is also what my boy loves to do when he communicates on face book/msn, happily typing away funny faces ;P
Soul, received already, tks!