Childless Not By Choice Group

rostrum,
mine is a bb gal. I would say only embark on another new cycle when u are really ready for it, be mentally and physically. When i tried my 2nd cycle, i was totally not ready be it mentally or physically. But dh keeps asking me to go for another cycle as my fil was critically ill at tat time. At the end, i can't even finish the whole cycle as the egg din grow at all. I was very devastated.
I decided to give myself sometime to heal before boarding for the 3rd cycle. Having a healthier lifestyle and really forget about ttc. Unexpectedly i strike naturally, which i never even think of.
Btw, I'm having a bb gal
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Babyg,
gynae do the urine culture for me. The result will be out today. Hope it's nothing serious. Actually I had infection as well when i'm week 5, but no cramp only itchy at that time. I can't remember which bacteria it is, but the gyane told me it won't cause miscarriage if left untreated but it may cause premature labour. I was only asked to use feminine wash more often, no medication given.I'm not sure whether the infection this time is the same as last time. I have to check with the gynae today
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Ur ms started to kick in? Hope everything goes well for you. Btw, may I know where u do ur yoga? thinking of sign up for prenatal yoga.

Gan, big big congrats to u
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Have a smooth pregnancy ahead. Take good care of urself, ok?

Lyn, I also believe healthier lifestyle helps a lot. After my cancelled 2nd cycle, i did try to change my lifestyle although not as comprehensive as babyg's. I choose healthier food, routine go for accu twice a week, no matter how tired i am. I also go for foot reflexology once in 2 weeks. I din know whether it has effect but when i had foot reflexology purely for destress only. I never think of strike naturally instead my mind is to prepare myself to embark on the 3rd cycle. I only hope for the next cycle my body will response better and if failed, at least i can do FET. Meanwhile, just relax and take off ur mind from ttc, ok?
wish u all the best and looking forward to your good news
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Gan

Firstly I want to congratulate you on your BFP!

I had my BT today and unfortunately it was BFN. I am still not reconciled to it and am emotionally drained. I am so disappointed...I had a very good lining and good embryos. I do feel however that I gave myself too much pressure to strike this cycle and I was very tensed during the 2ww. Can I ask you what you did to be more carefree during 2ww?
 
miraclebaby, i am really sorry to hear this.. It's really tough to accept a bfn after putting our best, making sure everything is done right. i can really feel ur disappointment.. Dun bottle up ur emotions ok. Talk to ur dh, close friends whom u can confide in and come to forum to share with the sisters. *hugz*
my 2ww this time, i guess whatever stress i shld have was experienced during the scans for lining. I was really stressed and desparate then as i tot i have to abort the cycle due to the poor lining. So when i really get to do et, i was very thankful. Not sure if i shared before i was thankful the sonographer wrote 8mm on the form though 3rd scan my lining was only 7.8mm. And during et i see that i thaw 3 and got 3 embbies. I was thankful they are toughies to survive the thaw. I guess being able to go for the et was big achievement to me then.
It's natural that we stressed during 2ww coz we all want success. dun blame urself that the bfn was due to ur stress. It's easy to tell pple to relax but honestly during my 2ww i have my jitters and 'what if' tots. But this time i will remind myself the 3 embbies are toughies to survive the thaw so i shld not worry.
Take a good rest, do things u enjoy like retail theraphy or hols or facial, when u r better, u can decide if u want to start a fresh cycle. U have plans for that?
Thanks. I went for another bt today since i was at kkivf to buy more cyclogest as they gave me 2 days less. Today is D14 but my hcg is 82.4, doubles but not high enuff. I have to go for another BT on thurs which is my actual bt date, they want at least 200. To be honest, now i feel stress coz i am not sure how the baby is doing.
Miraclebaby it takes alot of courage to accept a BFN and move on. U r a very brave girl, i will spread buckets of babydusts on you. I am sure ur next cycle will succeed.
 
miraclebaby, for this cycle i didn't try to see what symptoms i have though i hang around forums and heard diff symptoms from diff sisters. Coz during my fresh cycle i was analysing every symptoms and that stressed me out. So this time i just take whatever symptoms as they r and not check if it's normal or af coming. The only thing that scared me was the bad bloating i had on d10
 
Miraclebb, so sorry to hear about your BT. Take time to heal, especially emotionally and spiritually. Then after review with Dr F, see if you can be ready to try again. Miraclebb, God knows our heart and desires, if we dont give up on ourselves, He wont give up on us too. We will have our babies in our arms one day. Lets work towards that.

Gan, great news! As long as doubling or minimum 66% increase, its good, dont ease on your progesterone supports!
 
Gals, i got my Dong Quai already, last bottle from GNC. Actually the herbal ones from medical hall better but i wont have time to make soup so i resort to the pill ones. Now CD10, another 4 days to O, can take now right? After O then stop correct?
 
Lyn,
I m going to Dr Loh in end of May..

Gan,
Yes, I m grateful tt he is interested in the whole process. Bt he is like getting more paranoid making me v stressful..in fact my last cycle, he is also v paranoid...so I tel him tis time round, if he is behaving this way, I shall not start on it till he can calm down..

Tigi,
Perhaps u can try the protein drink from GNC
 
elle,
Ya, I tink u mention u hv bb gal...OMG, my memory is failing me..
Thanks for the advice, I also agree on yr point tt I must be prepared mentally and physically for the next round.
 
Gan,
Mabbe yr implantation is later part of the cycle...so HCG seems low now...dun worry, it will double up this Thursday.
 
rostrum, i have brougth ensure milk le... although i havent start injections, i make one cup liao just for taste which i find still ok. Any one got idea what the link between bloating n protein?? Why need to increase protein intake? Just curious...

miraclebb, dun give up, jia you!

Gan, could be still early for bt to spike... you have a good start... dun worry, jia you!
 
Tigi,
Protein intake will prevent bloatedness....I find ensure milk v fattening...u can take a lok at the contents....tt time I take for 3 weeks and I gain abt 1kg...
 
Tigi, may will be soon already...

Rostrum, dun knw yet... U seeing dr loh end may? I m thinking how long is the ivf quene now..
 
Lyn,
I m also not sure abt the queue...perhaps u can make an appt wif Dr Lohh first, he might slot u in the queue...meanwhile take this period to tiao yr body for the next try...

My AF bleeding is usually heavy flow for 2 days oni...other than tt is spotting for the other 4 0r 5 days...I realised as I grow older, flow is not so much like before..
 
Rostrum, ya me the same heavy for first 2 days only and spotting for 2-3 days then thats it. I m thinking to go for womb massage and the auntie ask me how many days is my menses i told him 3 days she is like so surprise... i told her 3 days its coz i feel that spotting not counted right?
I m thinking of seeing dr loh in early june to get DHEA and see wat he say...
 
Lyn,
Yr womb massage is from Malay lady? I m interested too...do u mind giving me the contact?
U shd tel her 2 days more, the rest lesser...
Ya, go c Dr Loh first and c wat he say abt yr failed cycle...bring along all yr reports...tt is my intention too...
 
Lyn,
Yr heavy is hw heavy? I eva told Dr Zou abt my AF flow, and she says its too little..she is expecting 3 days heavy flow for my age
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Rostrum, my contact also gotten from a lady in the ivf thread. Havent start yet, gtg for first time next thrus.. how abt i try already then i give u her contact coz juz now when i call she ask me who reccomended me and i cant tell the name so paiseh.. after i try i will try her i will reccomend a frd,ok?
My heavy is like full pad, 3 pads a day.. dr zou also say my age menses shld be more coz she say the amount of bleeding affects our linning thickness but all the while i dun have linning problem thats what dr f told me..... U r right as we grow older menses becomes lesser, my 2 kilo also agrees.. they r in their fourties
 
lyn, ya using this cycle.... now day 2 menses. My menses also not a lot leh... same like rostrum, as i get older... less n less heavy... especially when i took pill to induce... very little only
 
Rostrum, ya thats a malay lady coz i feel malay they like got some technique to help u with the womb.. like those spa they dun focus on that.
 
Sure Lyn, No problem
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Mine is like 3-4 a day also...for 2 days. Bt when I went for my scan for O last mth...gynae mention my lining is great...sometimes quite disheartend to hear -ve comments esp from TCM....I find gynae and TCM holds different views...Sometimes I myself also v confused...
 
Tigi,
I find its normal for AF to be lesser when we grow older...I find TCM's expectations is higher than gynae's...

Lyn,
True true...I nvr tried Malay masseues before...bt heard great comments abt them...
 
Rostrum, gynae say menses average of 3-4 days is normal but tcm say 7 days is good. Coz tcm feels if menses is more it shows that our kidney is strong or something like that. But on the other hand if u tell a western doc that ur menses is heavy and more days they will suspect u got cyst or some growth..
 
rostrum, ya lor i find tcm expectation very high too leh... always said my kidney or smthg no good... very disheartening... then tcm med takes effect so slowly wa piang... ai...
 
i recall, too thick could mean the old cells lining present no good for implant if i dun rem wrongly where i read before...
 
Lyn,
I never ask gynae before wat is the no. of days of AF we shd hv...so I duno from the western pov...bt definitely TCM says mine is quite less...
 
Lyn,
Yr lining is good!!!
I told Dr Zou tt my lining on my OR day is 12mm, she says these lining are induced by injections..therefore not accurate....to find out our real lining is to go scan before our O during normal cycle....
 
Tigi,
Ya...it takes a while to see the effect of TCM and for impatient person like me, I definitely cannot stand it...bt it did strengthen my body I must say...last time v scared of cold, now v scared of hot...and my bbt improves alot upon seeing Dr Zou...
 
rostrum, good for you when you see the results. But tcm din improve much for me... except for the ginseng pill recommended by the sinseh i last see... my feet don't see so cold now and i feel more energy too..
 
Tigi,
TCM might suit me bt might not suit the others...not everyone is suitable...like BabyG, TCM dun work for her...and she chg her diet, living lifestyle and on supplements....she strike naturally even without TCM...
 
Rostrum, must tell ur dh to keep a positive outlook, he should encourage u and not stress u. Tell him in this process, it's like both of u dancing, u will take the lead but he should support u with a smile.
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Lyn, my menses is usually heavy for 3 days then light for 2 or 3 days. but is this related to lining coz my lining is usually 8mm.
 
BabyGalore

I recall reading in one of your postings that we shouldn't eat too much papaya. Why is that so? Too cooling? Also, I am not E2 challenged. In fact, I have a history of mild endo, so would taking royal jelly helps or make me for E2 inbalanced? My TCM physician tells me I have liver conjestion, dampness and yang deficient.

Gan

All the best for your BT tomorrow. Hope it doubles nicely.
 
Gan, sigh! Actually we argued before after my failed cycle...and he promise me he will not be so paranoid again...which I doubt...tts y i always v hesitant to start the cycle again cos I scared history repeats itself...will take yr suggestion to talk to him again...
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Wah, Gan, u still hv 3 days full ah...me no more le..oni 2 days...
 
rostrum, when we start our fresh cycle we had a counselling session with the social worker, which u wld have too if do ur next cycle at kk. The social worker said we shld let our hubby know what is our expectation of their support in the ivf. She said discuss openly, so that dh will know what to do and give us the right emotional support.
During my fresh cycle, i also upset with dh, i had cramps during 2ww and told him, instead of asking how i am, he asked 'got blood?' waa that got me very mad then lor but guess he always link cramps to menses. *shake head* he didn't think that blood is the last thing i want to hear in 2ww.

My cycle now 50 dats to 60 days 1 af, maybe that's why 3 days full flow. Hmmmm

miraclebaby, how r u?
 
Gan, my last counselling session is not by a social worker, bt is by a nurse cos I done it at NUH.
Actually I did tel dh openly abt my expectations in my last cycle and even now before going to Dr Loh,
I m already telling him seriously le...I cannot ctrl hw he react if I start on my cycle..so I guess I will push the book tt
u post to me to him to read....

Hw is yr BT today?
 
rostrum, happy with my bt today. Hcg 380.9
showering u with lotsa babydusts!! Jia you! My 6 weeks scan on 21 may but having some brown spotting now...must take things alittle easy.

Babydusts to meow, lyn, tigi and miraclebaby!!
 


sunny want to thank you for the encouragement when i had poor lining growth during my scans. Thanks sister! Showering u with lotsa babydust and all the best for your fet!
 

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