!!!!!!!!!!!!!!******Can anyone advise for the children Penis******!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sadsinglemummy]

Hi Mummies/Daddies,
May i check with you, do you let your child do the operation by taking out the skin while they are young? How old do you advise? Do you think they are able to take it?

 

[kimkurek]

Hi! My son was circumcised on the 2nd day after he was born. When I was pregnant, my OBGYN told us the best time is 3 years old, but she did a check with the pediatrician who recommended on the second day. Apparently, the younger they go thru the surgery, the less painful for them and hence, easier on the care giver.

There are more parents here who opt to have their son circumcised whilst in USA, there are more parents who opt not to do so. However, in my experience, it is alot easier to care for the little one's penis.

Additionally, circumcision has nothing to do with UTI. But with ease to care for the private area, it is definitely more hygienic.

My son has hi done in Raffles Hospital and it's a newer method where a ring is pushed upward to push out the extra skin before the cut. So you need not be worried by some news (from Malaysia) where baby' penis was cut off.

Hope this helps.

 

[sadsinglemummy]

Hi KK,
har....second day from birth? So the baby can't have any painkiller for him right? Won't it be very painful?
In fact, my son is 3 yrs now...so do you think it is the best time for him?
just worry he will be very painful whenever he wants to pass urine.
May i know what's the difference for cutting it away and not cutting it?
Stress

 

[mirai]

Coral,

You may find the answers at http://www.birthjourney.com/circumcision.php

We did not circumcise our son cos our families do not have the history of doing it.

 

[tchloe73]

hi, both my boys are circumcised, one was done around one year old, the other about a few months old. My first one had UTI and was diagnosed with phimosis (tight foreskin) which led to the UTI, he had GA but they are mild so he woke up immediately after the surgery. 2nd one was done in the specialist clinic while drinking his milk from bottle! 2nd was done because we thought it was more hygienic and because DS1 was well and no recurrence after the surgery...
so is there a specific reason why you want to do it for your boy? and 3 yrs old is fine, they heal very fast, only sting on 1st 2 days...

 

[bakaholic]

KK,
How much did you pay for it at Raffles hospital?
My gynae also advised us to do it right after birth by a pediatrician surgeon. It's probably expensive to do in hospital compared to clinic but we feel they get better care since they will be staying over in the hospital till i discharge.

 

[kimkurek]

Happy public holiday in Singapore!

RE: Pain killer during circumcision
I believe my boy was given l.a. before the surgery. But we were not given any pain killer, like said, I guess it's because the young baby hasn't feel anything there yet.. *???*

RE: Surgical fee
bakaholic, sorry, I can't find the med bill anymore, they were all sum up with the rest of the med bill incurred for the child birth.. You can always call RH to check. The doctor that performed the surgery is an older male doctor.
My OBGYN gave us 2 names which we simply picked the first, but the PD recommended this one.

For those who intend to have this surgery done after birth like my boy, do take note that after the surgery, the area will look very raw and can be very scary. We were advised to apply some topical antiseptic cream (using cotton buds) for the first 7 days.. The ring fell of around the 10th day after the surgery. This mom here had so many cream to apply for the baby and myself, I forgot what the cream was for until finally my CL asked is that was for the penis.. *atoosh*!!

 

[kimkurek]

CheLim, wow, so circumcision do have a part in UTI... When my gf's son had UTI (quite serious some more!), the PD in KKH told her it's got nothing to do with it!!! He said because UTI is common bcos the urinary tract is short therefore more prone.

Coral, is there a reason you want to circumcise your boy now? Seriously, most Chinese do not have this practice. It's only recent years that the westerners preached so much about it, and that some of our boys were found to have too much foreskin at the physical chk before BCG at 12 years old that Chinese parents are "receptive" in cutting the extra foreskin.

Like said, there are now more parents in USA that do not circumcise their boy.

My reasons to circumcise?
1. Hygiene, especially when the boys started to bath themselves, I always think boys are no matter what less careful in cleaning themselves.
2. Pain, watched a documentary on the Muslim circumcision before and understand it's more "painful" when done at older age.. guess it's because they understand "pain" more than a baby.
3. Some (stupid) reason my doctor sis-in-law gave: in case baby and dad bath together and wonder why their penises looked different (to be honest, this is the most ridiculous reason I heard when I was researching on this topic! and coming from a doc?!... *fainted*)

 

[jessa12]

Hi mums. I m also thinking of circumcise my 8 yr old. Its more for hygiene sake. He aready had 5 episodes of infection since he was 5 when he learnt to bathe by himself. Headache!! Every time ve to c doc to get cream to apply. The infection takes about a few days to clear up! My husband is very against it though. He's more of teaching son the proper way to wash. For me is to end the heartpain n nitemare n jus go for it. haiz..I jus tell myself, if it happen again, it is really under the knife he goes. So far so gd, guess as he grows, he is more aware of washing properly.

 

[sadsinglemummy]

Hi KK,
In fact, i really got no experience to take care of boy since i was young, so i heard that doing GTI will be better for them, that was why i am asking all expert mummies advise.
Hi Erjie,
May i know how do i know is urine infection? I really worry because my son loves to squeeze it and play with it at times...which i don't know is it normal.
Please advise.

 

[xsun]

coral,
i did when my boy was 3yos! he got infection cos doc say all the bacteria trapped under his foreskin,difficult to clean. aw, his foreskin is tight, unable to pull back the skin to clean well. tats why i decide to Circumcise.

else he evtime get infection, itz very heartpain to see him in pain.

the whole ordeal is exactly wat it is...an ORDEAL!

nitemare and guilt towards my son for making him go thru it. i cant imagine the pain on such a sensitive area.

KUDOS to my son for being such a BRAVE BRAVE boy. till now im still very impress by his resilience and +ve attitiude.

 

[kimkurek]

Just a note, recently, I found a small part of my boy's penis turning red and it's at the joint of the foreskin and the head of the penis..

I applied the antiseptic cream we got from his surgery and it got better. PD advised that it's a nappy rash and to make sure the foreskin doesn't get pushed upward and exposing the head when pulling up his diaper pants. And to continue applying the nappy rash cream will do.

He added that this is also why some parents do not want to circumcise the kid at a young age. However, I still think it was a right decision I made.

 

[nana09]

hi

not sure if dis thread still active. I circumcised my boy @ two mths old. The ring dropped off on his fourth day. Best decision made. I think its hygienic.

 

[sadsinglemummy]

Hi,
Thanks for your suggestion.
Now i really very scared. Got blood coming out. I really dont know how to handle it. If i let him go through the circum, i can tell you, he will really scream like hell....which i dont really want to see him to react in this way. As mummies, we will be very sad and hurt for making him go through this at this kind of age, esp now he is 4 years old....sure very painful.
Is there anyway to solve this problem beside getting him circum?
Please advise.

 

[lemlynn]

I circumcised my boy when he was 2 days old and glad I did that!

 

[dirtifish]

I hope parents who considering circumcise their baby do not make the same mistakes as what I did.

I circumcise my 6 weeks' old baby just last saturday. and i would say that is a regret decision.

My eldest son suffered from penis infection last year. He is 5 y o due to never know need to retract the foreskin and wash after each pee. My brothers were circumcised when they were 10 + and my mother did ask me to consider circumcise my son but we did not.

Thus, when I pregnant late last year, remembering how my eldest son was suffered from infection, husband and I decide to circumcise the baby at birth. So he started to search for a famous yet with reasonable price doctor for baby's circumcision.

Mistake 1
I never know there are chances of getting complication after/during circumcision. I always tot that is just a simple cut with zero risk. I did not browse the image of circumcised penis and i totally had no idea what would it be after circumcised. Basically, other then the benefits of circumcision, I know nothing about it. After my son's incident last saturday, then only i get to know most extreme case for cir. is death, which might not ever happen in singapore, I am not sure. If you browse, you can easily find some cases of death after circumcision and that happened in developed countries such as US and canada. And based on the statistics, complication of circumcision is only 0.2%. And guess what, my son had complication, I dun think the doc ever reports to MOH or does any record for his complication. Obviously, this statistics are somehow understated!

Mistake 2
We might have chosen wrong doctor although his is famous, experienced and I can see a few mommies in this forum ever mentioned his clinics' name.
-I called the clinics for appointment and preparation of pre-cir. The staff told me no appointment is required. And they will explain to me the after care of circumcised baby. sounds hassle-free huh!
-When we were there, the staff 'explained' to me the after care based on a small slip with a picture of before and after cir. THe pictures are so blur! And I never seen a circumcised penis! I can't even see which is the plastibell or where is the circumcised part etc.
-so baby were brought to his room. I wanted to be there but they asked me out. That one I got no comment as some people might not be able to watch that.
-after 5 or 10 minutes. The cir done. They returned me the clean baby with all well-dressed. I should insist to see the wound before i leave the clinic. But I din't. That's my mistake.
-baby was calm and sleeping all the way home. since he was not fussy, we had our breakfast and took MRT home.
-When we reached home (3 hours later, I told my husband that we should let baby wear napkin instead of diaper so that we can see if he is bleeding. Haven't finish my words, when I took out the baby from my dark blue baby sling, I almost faint. The blood even soiled his long pants. The blood volume I could see when I opened his diaper were more then my menses. We quickly called the doc and rushed back to his clinic. Even we changed him a new diaper, the blood even soiled my blouse and jeans when I carried him.

Mistake 2
- doc's assistance seems to be an experienced one, she comforted me that the baby would be alrite.
-They spent about 15 minutes or half an hour, I didn't check, inside the room to treat the baby. Again, they asked me out. I tot bleeding due to the plastibell which supposed to attach the penis till it drops after a week was dropped before it should be. I looked at the bloody diaper again but couldn't find anything. In fact I dun know what the plastibell looked like. I hate I never opened to check before i left the clinic just now.
-Again, when they done, they returned a clean baby to me w/o further explained what happened. When I asked, the assistant just said, basically the cap (plastibell) drop, and doc has stitched the foreskin to stop bleeding. I told her that I couldn;t find anything in the diaper. She just took away the diaper and thrown it w/o saying anything. I was so stupid to let her did that. The doc din't even say a word. Just smile and went off! I just dun understand why didn't we insist them to make a detailed explanation on what actually happen. We re so stupid, again!

We supposed to bring back the baby for checking 2 days later, which was Monday. I passed the sunday miserably, regrets, worries, and started to blame each other for the decision and for being quiet in front of doc.

There came monday, I brought baby to the doc. the doc as usual spent his saliva as little as possible. "Hmm, It looks clean". When I saw him has no intention to explain to me what actually happened last saturday. Here's our dialogue:
me: we saw greenish discharge in the diaper this morning.
doc: that's...normal. then he kept quiet again.
me: He lost too much blood, didn;t him?
doc: that's only 1 or 2 hours rite?
me: I am not sure! Actually I still dunno know when the cap dropped!
doc: nope, the cap actually din't drop. (stopped again)
me: then?
doc: huh?
me: so why was that?
doc: err..basically it's complication. it happens. so I need to remove the cap and sewed it (he again kept quiet, this is why I say complication statistics are understated!)
me: so? I let him continue the antibiotics until finish?
doc: no, no . just 1 or 2 more days will do.
me: so 1 day or 2 days?
doc: (kept quiet).
I need to mention, I was all the while so humble and patient when I spoke to him. But I just feel weird how can a doctor communicate with his patient this way. I totally lost confidence.

Baby was tired and sleepy the past 2 days. I asked my doctor frenz tht this is becos losing blood. THank god he is fine now, drinks well, smiles, pees, poos as usual. I can still see puss-like underneath, I think I will go to the clinic again tomoro to check whether it's infection or just normal recovery sign.

We feel so sorry to the baby. We shouldn't have circumcised him! If I were to know there is complication, any , even 1 out of 1 million, I will not put him at risk!!