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hi bf mummies, anyone uses the avent isis manual breast pump? do you know where to get the spare part for the petal shape massager thingy? help is appreciated...
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hi jen,
believe u can call cannon avent and check if they hv the spare... think the number is listed somewhere above.... 63919191.... wat happened to the petal?
 
soyabean... thanks... they do sell it...

lil prince, thanx for the number too... hehe... btw, the valves you were talking abt is the isis pump the little white "star" thing isit?
 
jen...
oic... no wonder... btw, did ur fren use sterilising tablet for the pump? if yes, tell her beta not to.... i heard it will spoil the rubber parts over time.
 
hi all mummies,
i'm back, quite tired after the trip. HK is really a place of eating and shopping. Didn't buy much stuff coz now is winter season... so many postings.. trying to catch up now.

littleprince
yeah me somewhat feeling okay with stopping BF but mixed with some reluctant feeling. nevertheless I tell myself got to stop some point and this is the best time for me to stop and get on with my diet plans.. me want to be pretty mummy too.. and not fat fat ah soh mummy...

you have done well in BF too. just do your best and take one day at a time.

giggler
I started to stop gradually one week before reducing to pump only once in the morning. I totally stop pumping on 4th day, 2 days before coming back. So now I don't pump anymore, but will still use hand to squeeze out some to relieve the hardness, maybe by end of this week my breast should be normal, no hardness feeling.

angelia
my mum did gave my boy some herb stuff mix with porriage water but I don't think is 'pao sheng'. I think my boy didn't take gripe water till 4mth when he's started to show signs of teething, but also not on daily basis.

masshiro
I also did study japanese during poly time but gave up after 1 yr...

so next time I go japan must seek your advise on the good places to go.

mini
my mum gave porriage for my boy solid. I will give brown rice or cereal or porriage when I brin him back on weekends depending. Sometimes I also gave him 'chwee gwa' for breakfast too.
But seems like my boy don't like cereal, he only take little and will fuss. He's fine with porriage and brown rice.

sharon
like QHL mentions, I also experience leaking initially, but now I hardly had it except for the few days when I change and reduce my pumping sessions.

mon_mon
so you also stop BF to start diet? me too.. you not so bad, only 4kgs.. me got 20kgs... oh boy...
 
Hi everyone,
Is it alright to use underarm deodorant when I'm still BF my baby? Does the deodorant get into the milk?
Don't know why but my BO became very bad after giving birth... and I don't dare to use deodorant cos of BF.
 
hi all,

i just bought the dec issue of Youngparent it come with a mummysmilk's calenda . so amusing that some of mummies still bfing their 6 yr old child. but when i show it to my hubby, he gave me that kind of "ah" expression ...
 
prince, the petal thingy cost $8...

soyabean... i dunno... did not ask... i assume it turned yellow after a long time as she has not used it for 3 years...
 
hi, mummies
thks for all yr encouragement ..

jen
thks, i thought of buying one for spare coz the curled up area to fasten to the pump seems to be uncurling leh .. dunno if i am torturing my breast pump, this and that seems to be breaking down ..

haiz .. my bm ss seems to be remaining stagnant for the past wk, abit depressing leh .. somemore, i am so busy with work these few days tt at times, i can only pump during lunch time and after i finish work, stay back to pump in office .. so shacked ..

the other time when i said i think i got blocked ducts, i tried clearing them when i shower today and all the milk were spurting out at all directions .. how come when i pump i dun see them spurting like this?
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need to ask, the part tt i pressed is in between the aerola and nipple whereby got a few small lumps .. i press them while showering and milk can spurt at the top .. is this where blocked ducts appear? thks ..
 
Giggler
Ya, for me, one of the plus pts of bf is no menses.
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Jas
U went HK? Must be fun. My boy also dun like cereal leh. He does not even want to open his mouth to take. Are u still bf?

Littleprince
U might hv a dried up milk clot in the nipple. Do u see any white dot on ur nipples? If so, need to remove the white dot, if not no matter how u massage, it still wun solve the problem totally. Can bk an appt with Mrs Wong of TMC to remove the white dot.
 
hi desert...
u r so lucky.... my menses came back when i was into my 3rd mth... so sad... nw every mth i hv to go thru a horrendous ss dip 2 weeks b4 my menses come.

littleprince...
using warm water on your breasts actuali help to stimulate the flow... dats why u cld see spurts.
yes... i think where u described is usually where blocked ducts appear.
 
desert
no white dots on my nipple, just the lumps btw the fold of the nipple and aerola ..

soyabean
thks, think maybe i shld get a hot towel to put on my breasts then to stimulate the flow better ..
 
Hi Jas,

Glad you enjoyed your trip. The weather there must be nice now. So you really hanging up your pump. I still dun know when but probably latest by end Dec when I go Bangkok..can't bear to stop leh, esp the thought of having to prepare milk in the middle of the night. Latching on is so much more convenient..

I can't wait to go Tsukiji in Japan again..love the fresh sashimi there. Haven't had sashimi for a long time, ever since I got preg. yum yum.

Hi gals,
My boy has been having cereal for close to a month now. Is it alright to start brown rice already? Am thinking of starting brown rice now and introducing porridge later. Any advice? Tks.

Hi Soyabean,
My menses came back less than 2 months after I gave birth..so I'm worse than you. I also experience dip in supply whenever I have menses.
 
littleprince...
yes! dat will help.
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i used to diligently use a hot towel and massage b4 i pump... but nowadays very lazy liao.

masshiro...
yeah... if i were u, wld start brown rice 1st... porridge later.
 
Hi Jas, so you didn't any pills to stop the milk? So you eat a lot in HK?
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Hi aloe, I think 6yrs old is quite extreme leh.

Hi desert, but me didn't enjoy that benefits leh. I got my menses last mth liao.

Hi Masshiro, I gave Vane both rice cereals and brown rice at the same time. Prob, I'll intro porridge to her next week. I also feel sad to stop bfg. Still prefer to latch bb on directly in the middle of the nites hor?
 
desert
yeah, went to HK and just came back on Monday. I have stopped BF just before I left for HK last Tuesday.

masshiro
yeah the weather there now is pretty okay, not too hot and not too cold. Yeah, me hanging up the pump for good for now. Will be doing some packing up in Dec to put away those preggie stuff and bb's clothing now longer needed.

Too bad I don't take sashim so can't really appreciate them.

You can feed brown rice for a change and see whether he likes it.

giggler
nope, didn't use pills to stop the milk although I had the pills. I stop gradually which I think is better than using pills. Me eat a lot in HK? Okay lah... normal three meals but quite big portions lah.. hee hee
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giggler/masshiro
your bb still wake up middle of nites for feeds?
 
Hi Jas, heard that it's not advisable to take pills to stop the milk flow rite? My gal still wake up abt 2-3x in the middle of nite for feeds. So it's more convenient to bf her lor.
 
Masshiro
You know wat? I just brought up Tsukiji to hb again, just talking about it becos of Japan Hour...looks like you and I can invade that place one day..we eat sashimi together.. but Japan is so ex hor....
You still have not eaten sashimi, becos of b/feeding is it?

Giggler
You are so strong, can still wake up 2-3 times ..
 
HELP!!
i just came bk fm my milk expressing and got a big problem .. i only manage to pump till 3oz then no more milk, not even droplets .. then when i feel around my breasts, got a lump .. i tried massaging and even a hot compress but it just dun go away .. manage to get some bm spurting out in some directions at first but after tt, no more again and the lump is still there .. think i also dunno how to massage myself too hard, so can't get rid of it .. what shld i do? shld i see a LC this pm?
 
giggler
I also heard about such sayings, but there are cases whereby some just need the pills. Wow you can still tahan waking up middle of nite to feed.. luckily my boy can sleep through now, else I don't think I can tahan..

stylobb/masshiro
taking about japan now huh... actually I like to visit Hokkiado, is it a good place to go? there's also a place with lots of hot spring, any idea where is it?
 
Jas,
welcome back! did u try different brands of cereal on ur boy? think they just dun like cereal since sick of getting it. my boy dun like those cereal with flavouring. bot banana cereal n he even dun like.
so u finally stop bf. yar must get on to normal life again since motherhood is more than bfg.

giggler,
so have u intro fm to van yet?

masshiro,
can give brown rice from 4mths onwards so ur boy already after 6mths should b no problem giving. more varieties is good too.

littleprince,
u r experiencing blocked ducts. best is to ask bb to clear it. else can use warm compress n tried pumping again. sometimes my blocked ducts can be cleared after a few pumping sessions.

mommies,
my dept closed down n i m retrenched. boss only told me on this mon afternoon n my last day was ytr. only 1day notice. so now staying at home. can experience being a housewife for the time being. like tat can continue to bf too. just tat MIL been taking care of my boy n i dun really like to stay in her house for too long. but if i bring my boy back with me dun think i can handle alone. dunno how yet. this wk i will rest n run some errands. MIL going china tour next wed so from there can try to get used to spending 24hrs for weeks with bb again. last time was during maternity leave.
 
Thanks Soyabean, Giggler,
Guess I can start brown rice already. Which brand are you all using? Saw quite a few on the shelf.

Hi Giggler, Jas,
Me too. Still waking up at night to latch baby on. Good times just need to wake up once, bad times, can be 2-3 times. After I latch, I'll leave baby to sleep with us, so when he makes noise we'll try to pat him to sleep again. but if really cannot, got to get up and latch again.
Very tiring, but still better than having to prepare bottle feed.

Can't bear to give up..but think maybe I'll bf till end of the year before I go for a holiday to Bangkok.

Hi Stylobb,
You like Tsukiji too? Ya..didn't eat becos of bfg. I dun eat a lot of sashimi, just salmon, tuna and maybe some prawn, etc. The last time I went, it was freezing cold and I was trembling waiting in the queue outside.

Hi Jas,
Me haven't been to Hokkaido yet. Went backpacking to to Kyushu and Shikoku..lovely places. No chance to visit Hokkaido yet. Would love to visit that place one of these days, but it's so expensive.

Hi Mini,
So sorry to hear about the retrenchment. How come so short notice? Enjoy your extra time with baby...these moments are so precious.

Hi Littleprince,
Think you better try to massage harder. If the lump persists, better go see lactation consultant or doctor. Maybe let your baby latch on and see if that can help clear the lump. Babies are such good pumps.
 
mini
O dear! What a shock it must have been to you!!
How are you taking it? Thanx for telling us. Hope we can give you moral support and listening ear. You used to travel right? What happened to the department? How come so sudden? So terrible, never prepare staff. Any retrenchment package? Did you see it coming? Sorry, so many questions...hope you are ok.
On the positive side, can have more time with bb.
 
masshiro
chk with u, if let bb latch on, do we hv to massage our breasts at the same time? i tried doing it before and my boy got distracted and refused to suckle properly ..
 
Hi styloBB, guess my body already used to it liao.

Hi Jas, I think lucky thing is Vane doesn't fuss when she wakes up for milk in the middle of the nite, so still ok.

Hi mini, me haven intro fm to Vane yet as my milk still enuf for her now. Huh? Your co only give u one day notice? Did they give u any compensation? I think you can handle bb alone lah, just need time to get used, that's all
 
hi masshiro..
i hvnt start semi-solids yet... edi oni 4 and half mths old.
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littleprince...
why nt try massage a bit then latch him on?
 
mini
yeah, me back... and yes finally stop BF.. indeed me getting back to my normal life and 1st thing is to start dieting... can't wait to get rid of those fats.... if you had seen me, you will know what I mean and why me so desperate to loss weight... I didn't try different brand of cereal on him though, so far only let him had Dumex apple cereal and banana cereal. He used to like it when I gave him the sample pack, so I bought a big pack, who knows he don't like it anymore.

was really a surprise indeed... you can make use of the time now to try being a SAHM, if don't like no problem to go working again. For me, I know definately for sure cannot face bb 24hrs a day for long... me not cut out to be a SAHM.
 
hi soya

u remem me? our edd was 1 day apart... my edd was 18jul but i delivered on 5jul... n life has never been the same again
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littleprince,
my boy is 8.5mths old.
i dun have the habit to massage my brs before latch on/expressing. dun know is it neccessary or not?

masshiro, stylobb, giggler, jas
thanks for your concern. boss supposed to give 1mth notice but he only give 1day as he paid me 1mth in lieu instead. he said better than let me waste 1mth in office.
I was working in a jap firm n we have been supporting japan all along. japan side is not doing good n had a major restructuring. after that they just dun need spore help anymore n so boss have to close down my dept. since sept i sent report to japan side but they can take 1mth to reply me. so can see tat they not urgent. hardly have any updates from them... so v lost touch n guess this is the hint? but they will ask me to do extra things so i din suspect. yar there is some retrenchment payout. luckily boss still give me aws n some bonus. actually intend to quit in feb so not too bad impact to me. will take some time to rest first.
 
Hi,

I'm new here, have been my 1st day back home and I'm really stressed out already.

I wanted full breast feeding, but seems that my confinement lady are very against it..... It really stress me out, especially when my Baby cry and she keep saying BB is hungry and I got no milk......

Found this forum and hope to get some support and info frm experience mother... hope u all don mind!

I'm in my 2nd day after labour, have been trying very hard to feed BB, my nipples are sooo short that my BB is very frustrated when breast feed.... I'm soo afraid tht she will be hungry...

Will my milk really come after 3rd day? Can my BB really wait that long if my milk doesn't come in, is she hungry?

.... I'm so stress, Thks for listening though.
 
mini
Thanks for the sharing. At least you already had the intention to quit so not so bad altho I believe you still get affected no matter what. It's hard to go after being in a place working. So take time off to space out and relax. Maybe you can ask mil to look after two days and you look after three days.

wooof
Welcome here.
Did you manage to put her to the breast? IF so, should be ok. My opinion would be I still try to b/feed her, the bm will only come in after the third day or so, so dun give up. Bb has reserves for three days, however if you feel she is hungry, I see no harm in giving a bit of fm. You try to express and start 'production' hehe... just dun give up.
I feel the CL has no reason to be against your b/feeding, it's your bb after all. You have to decide and if you want to continue to b/feed, then tell her firmly you will do it. I think the CL maybe feel 'useless' cos got nothing to do if you tbf mah...just my observation.
FYI there are cases of my friends who did give fm initially and after the milk supply is established, they go on tbf.
So dun give up. And dun stress yourself out, ok!
As for short nipples, I think there is a device from Medele that helps to pull the nipples out.
 
QSG/Giggler, been to the pioneer mall, super more people, food court very dirty too..i had the "poh fan" the other time, quite okie la..

waiting for the giant to open, but not sure if the store ll be big...recently, we go giant at imm late at nite, still quite many people, but at least can shop...normal hours is terrible.

masshiro, u might wan to try rice which is plain first, the brown rice form nestle is sweet...

Jas/masshiro/stylobb, think hokkaido ll be much diff from tokyo, more like a europe town, cos many structure very european...i love japan, been there once for hols, few short work trips..hmm...when can i go on hols again...hiaz...

mini, sorry to hear abt the bad news, but everything has 2 sides to it, think on the better-side, take a short break and enjoy the time spent with ur little one...
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hi hi mommies...

sigh...so fast ..time has passed ..it time for me to return to work...but me hope to continue bf my baby boy...hence need a few tips from you all to express at work

currently i only expressed when i missed 1-2 feeds...mostly i direct latch on demand...

below are my queries for expressing the milk at work..

1.how many bottles should i have prepare for express ?

2. how to increase the supply ? once i express out during one of the feed but only get 2-3oz which is not enough for my boy....
 
wooof,
can fire ur CL. She wants her job to be easier, cos she has to tend to bb... BM bbs feed more frequently abt 8-10 times daily, so means she has to work more. Whereas FM bbs just feed 6 times daily and then are conked out most of the remaining time.
But since u pay her $, why should she discourage u from bfg, just to make her job easier? Your milk will come in as long as u latch, and bb does have enough reserves, just that bb will cry more/ need more cradling and soothing (that's another factor why it makes CL's job harder).
 
I clarify... bb will cry more in the BEGINNING, later on when BM comes in (after a wk or so, if u latch totally no supplement, ur BM usually will exceed demand), it'd be fine, just that u may have to lose some sleep to wake up to latchbb frequently
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wooof,
yes... pls dun listen to ur CL. do watever u deem is best for u and bb. its ur bb, not hers. like stylobb said, bb got reserves so can "tong" until ur ss comes in. u hv to get ur bb to latch as and when she wants to... wld be frustrating for her cos nothg comes out yet... but dun give up. and some bbs takes a while to learn how to latch properly... so dun give up.

when bb now latching, u can try to pump abit to help stimulate the ss.

hi piggy!
of cos i rembr u...
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hehe... so now how? life turned upside down har? mine oso leh... my boi drives me nuts most of the times... my edd was 17jul, but i gv birth on 19jul. hehe....
 
Giggler/soyabean
I think my menses still not back yet, coz my boy still taking a lot of bm. He still wakes up 2-3 times at nite, though more out of habit than need. So, there's the minus side lah, I am not able to sleep thro the nite.

littleprince
Then, I guess shd be blocked duct, massage with warm compress b4 expressing or better still, latch on bb.
For bf problems, better to see lc. Gynaes are not so gd in helping.

Wooof
I think stylobb answered most of ur queries. Most impt is to get ur latch rite, and dun introduce the bottle too early. Once u get these correct, just feed on demand. If u really want to tbf, dun bother abt what the confinement lady says. I did not hv much milk in the 1st mth too, ss only established at ard 6-8wks. My ss all along not a lot, but still enuff for my boy, tt's why he's 10 mths and I am still bf. Just follow the rule dd=ss.
 
melody, which part of jurong west you staying?

I went to the food court 3 weeks back, looks okay then you mean now its very dirty? Floor or tables?
 
soyabean / mini / desert
thks for the advice, i called the LC at ESH yest and she cfmd it shld be blocked ducts .. told me to go home and hv a hot shower and try to massage the milk out but i tried and cannot work .. so painful leh .. beared with the pain for the whole nite and when i woke up this am to express, tried massaging the lump again and managed to make the lump smaller .. expressed close to 7oz bm but had to stop as need to prepare to go for work ..

think will still go and see LC in the pm to get her help coz i dun want the lump to start swelling again later .. the LC was also quite surprised why i dun use my medela dual electric pump but use the avent one instead .. told her i find avent's suction better, so she offered to chk for me the medela pump if i can bring it down ..
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.. so will get her to help me chk also ..
 
Hi woof, maybe you can get help from the lactation consultant from the hospital abt your short nipples. Also, it's your bb so you got to make decision on what you want to feed bb and it's not up to the CL to decide.

Hi melody, I still haven been there before leh. Maybe I'll wait for the Giant to open first.
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Hi adeline, I prepare abt 4 glass bottles to express at work. Also, I standby some disposable bags. To incr ss, I tried drinking lots of water and milo. During lunch, I usu eat fish soup with rice.

Hi desert, me too my gal still wakes up 2-3times in the middle of the nite. But I think I got used to it liao.
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Hi littleprince, so it's blocked ducts lah. Think it's better to seek professional's help.
 
Thks all for yr advise,

Sigh... last night was very tedious, BB cry when ever she comes near my breast, cause I really don know how to get her latched on.

In the end, at 6am in the morning, we finally give up after 3 tries. We gave her formular
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I feeel soooooooo bad, but seeing the BB hungry even worse......

Now I'm still trying to see if I can let her latch on, but now I'm having only colustrum....
Can we pump columtrum into something to let her lick? If she still can't latch, I see my colustrum go to waste when I pump, soo pity leh...

Anyone ever try pumping the colotrum and maybe let BB lick off a cup or something?


Thanks.
 
Hi wooof,

In order not to let the baby get used to bottle, which may make it difficult for you to bf next time, what the lactation taught me was to pump and then feed baby with a spoon. You'll see that the baby will know how to lick the milk from the spoon. This can be an interim solution unti your supply comes in. Maybe when baby not so hungry, you can try latching her on again.

Hi Littleprince,
Hope you're feeling better already. Maybe the LC can use their hospital grade pump to help you remove. It's difficult to massage when baby is nursing, cos can dislatch and baby may get distracted. What I do is to maybe compress the breast to try to get the milk out when baby is sucking.

Hi Stylobb,
Really heartpain to throw away my ebm yesterday. Almost 4 ounces. So forgetful, this is the 2nd time I forgot to put in the fridge after expressing.

Hi Melody,
Would love to go Hokkaido one of these days..dunno when. It'll be nice to spend winter there though it'll be freezing cold.
 
giggler
will be going later in the pm ..

masshiro
thks .. going to get LC help later .. now not so painful but can feel still got lump .. can't seem to massage off the whole lump, only part of it ..
 
Hi woof, I think you can get from Medela something to extend your nipple so that bb can latch on you directly leh.

Hi Masshiro, feel heartache to throw the EBM away, esp now the ss decr hor?
 
Hi soya,

i hv no life now, my life now revolves around my boi... he's coming to 5 mths now, little rascal. I was quite depressed in the beginning cos i failed to tbf, no matter how hard i tried. After a while learn to kan kai, now still partial bfg hope i can tong past 6 mths. Now i suffer from chronic lack of sleep
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Day time work night time take care of boi + housework. But when he smiles n plays w me i tell myself its all worth it
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HI wooof,
i had the same problem with CL in the beginning..so against me bfg. Finally got through my 28days of confinement, counting down everyday.
Actually if we bf, their job is easier as they just need to bring bb to us when they cry, no need to make formula or whatever.
Initially the amt expressed will be low, and they'll say you cannot bf, blah blah.
But dun worry, supply will come in if you continue feeding!
Whatever it is, perservere! Dun give up.

You can try feeding through spoon, alternatively can try NUK bottles...i did initially cos CL and my parents insist on giving water...thankfully bb no nipple confusion!

You can store the colustrum for feed at a later time, meanwhile can seek help from LC if need be. Do you need a contact of LC? i have one who's very good and friendly.
PM me if interested
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