ANY MALAY MUMS HERE?

Oh dear.. i can almost see ic rushing off to Bangkok like superhero....

I went to watch nemo last saturday.. it was better than i expected bec i always thot ikan berkaki is so salah... but my all time favorite is still sesame street la...

my boboi slept ten minutes before the intermission and all the way thru the intermission, then he woke up and continue watching. so funny, it was loud and he slept so soundly.. penat na dia, macam la dia jalan kaki pegi sane
 


Lani, MBK tu ada ke halal food court? Twice we went there, kite makan KFC je. hahaha.. Tu pun tak tau halal ke tak. Tgk org pakai tudung makan, kite pon ngap je ar. Then i know yg tmpt wholesale market tu, ape name dia- Pratunam Ctr, tu ade satu halal stall jual beef noodle. Pun ok jgk. Maybe kite da lapar sgt, ari2 makan KFC, sume sedap ar. :p

Da lame tak pi BKK. Miss the pasar malam la. Tu je lar tmpt yg bole haggle over the price. Best. Shiok lar shopping. hehe Tp memang la baju2 budak obit. hehe.. Tapi kasot2 pat sane murah2!

So, i put a list for sesape yg interested for gathering ok.
Nak bawak apape tak? Bola ke, bubbles etc
Sape yg nak pegi, pls PM contact to Sharena.
Venue: Botanics Gardens
Date: 17th March 07
Time: 3pm
1. zu and adam
 
k, so far Zu and adam je ke? Termasuk I and Farah.

As to nk bawak apa, mmm... I tk tahu pasal Farah pun masih kecik so I bwk dia punya rattles je.

Makanan nk bwk? Sandwiches ke, air ke... Kita potluck skali lah...

K then, dah penat lak...
 
ic,
alamak you! MBK got until 7th floor lah! on the 6th floor got big food court, got some more shops and then got a whole area all full of handicraft and household shops lah!! and then the 7th floor got cinema, arcade centre and a few more shops.

zu,
alamak to you pun! ada ke pergi BKK abis makan kfc aje! yes, the food court on 6th floor of MBK got at least 5 Halal stalls. all certified halal lah. you know lah, thailand kan also got quite alot of muslims now, so they make sure got halal food in the food court also lah. luckily my fave beef noodles there is halal!

actually, even if you go to chatuchak market they also have some halal food stalls, but i dunno exactly where they are, cause when i go there i tak makan. i pergi pagi immed after b'fast, then quickly shop until ard lunchtime, then i balik hotel room, keep all the things and go for lunch. cannot stay at chatuchak past lunchtime lah, cause the place SOOO panas really cannot tahan.

i know chatuchak got halal food stalls cause one of the shop owners we spoke to happen to be muslim and he told us there got muslim food, he even showed it to us on the map, but then i am not good at deciphering maps lah, so he explain pun for me macam masuk 1 ear keluar the other ear...hee....

nora,
kelakar lah you, describe how ic will fly there like superhero! hahaha!!

ic,
then maybe your next hols you can plan to go BKK lah. murah, esp with all the budget airlines nowadays. i pergi naik airasia my tix was just S$30 per person! return tix pulak tu! their airport tax was more expensive, came up to S$110 per person. and then now you don't pay for BKK airport tax at the airport anymore. you will pay for the tax tog with your air tix. maybe you can bring arshad along too....
 
Zu,
Yang i pergi, level 5 kat MBK, the entire food court is not halal. But got 1 stall that is halal. The name of the stall, "Muslim Food". So obvious right? Orang yang jual all muslims. Salah tengok, ingat makcik mana..but no..they're thailand muslims. Kat sana, nak identify muslims easier. Majority of the thai muslims pakai tudung. Then the rest is like "Singapore Food", "Japanese Food", "Italian" etc.. It's like a all-come-one nationality foodcourt.

Nora,
Heheh..hai..kalau got $$, sure rush like superhero.

Lani,
Wah i didn't know so cheap lah. The last time i went there was for a business trip. So wherever i go was with my colleague. Tak berani wander around. Moreover, pergi sana kena kerja..so didn't have chance to go to chatuchak market. Cuma dapat pergi MBK & Siam paragon. My colleague ni pulak asyik nak balik hotel to go gym aje..workout. Apa nak buat...these guys..

My darling boy with my parents. So tadi dapatlah pergi "date" dgn hubby i. Punya lah lama kita tak berjalan dua-dua. Semenjak my son born lah! So i was so excited. Dapat pergi hajah maimunah makan dinner. Only disappointed, tak de sotong hitam. But overall enjoyed my outing tonight. Hai...unlike you, every week ada allocate outing time with your hero.
 
hey
i baca korang bebual psl BKK mcm best je eh? But I really serik lah gi sana. Agaknya psl i went with my colleague. Both of us first time there. Didn't really enjoy the shopping except the shoes, bags and bras...

I gi chatuchak pun panas semacam, MBK pun i tak nampak stalls yg halal. I tk bnyk mkn pun. Kekadang tu pun tutup sebelah mata! Tapi tu dulu lah..

Nantilah since tix dah murah maybe cn go there again and c if it'll change my impression... I love the massage there though, murah sgt!

I ni kaki spa kalau u nk tahu. My hb pun sama so sometimes our date is to go for massage session.

Klah, gtg for my extra class...
 
ic,
shiok tak go for date night with your hubby? must make more effort to do it more lah, it really helps the r'ship. anyway, now arshad dah besar, easier to leave him with your parents.
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sharena,
yah the food court in MB got a few halal stalls. but must really open eyes big-big to see lah, because they are not very obvious. you gotta go right up to the stall then they will have small signs there somewhere saying they are halal or muslim stall. also you can tell they are muslim stalls cause these stalls will have ayat-ayat pasted on the wall of the stall.

yah, shopping there good for accesories and undergarments! baju not so nice. if you like spa then stay in a nice hotel that has a good spa lah. i know Pathumwan baru buka a new spa. when we stayed there they gave 1 free 15min massage session for every guest. but i tak pergi, cause no time! so busy shopping & eating! haha....
 
Lani, dats y lor. Hb nie kaki makan tp kite pi san sume mcm takle telan so duit tu abis pat shopping ar. Even Mac dorang ada pork! Okie, now i know. Lain kali le pi BKK lagi. Like u say, tix pun da murah. Tapi kalo pi shopping bawak si Adam nie tak shiok. Cos dia slalu bising. Kena tunggu masa when i cn learn to let go of hi ru la kite le pi holiday together-gether!
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I know Chatuchak ada halal stall tp kite pusing2 pat situ tak jumpe pon satu tmpt makan. Sesat tmpt anjing2 ada lar. hahaha... I love Chatuchak, byk bole bli pat sane. Tapi kene tahan dia nye panas je lar. Tapi shoppingnye pasal, sume bole.

ic, pi Hajah Maimunah! meleleh air liuh. hahah... i suka siput sedut dia la dgn ulam2 and sambal belacan. hahahaha... Makan mcm nenek2!
 
Sharena,
I think now BKK a lot of changes. So i think your perception might change. In the beginning you will feel like some things are modern, some are not. Macam malaysia. Not sure about last time. Coz when i went last month, it was also my first time. No worries. Got halal food.

Zu,
I prefer yang kat joo chiat. Pasal tak de those orang gila lah or those you know lah. But joo chiat close on monday. So semalam, i had to go the one at jalan pisang. Hopefully the next time, i can go to the one at joo chiat. Dah lama tak pergi seh..

By the way, any mummies tried 2HotHalal cafe at VivoCity / esplanade? Is it really good ke? And mahal tak? Dari luar, nampak macam mahal? What they serve? Kalau serve those makanan melayu which can get cheaper price macam kat hajah maimunah / east coast, then i rather go for cheaper ones.
 
The only thing i remember abt BKK on the whole, was that it was super duper PANAS... my brains like want to melt...but i dun enjoy travelling la. i dread the journey. so usually by the time i reach singapore i aleady forgot what i do overseas...

ic
i dah pegi si 2hothalal cafe yg kat esplanade.. macam tak hot sangat, maybe bec i went after i watch puteri gunung ledang, banyak org, staff pun da penat agakye. if i remember got satay, western dishes, not ur hjh maimunah fare la. Hjh maimunah lagi best la...

You all remember halal joe grill tak... long time ago kat joo chiat jugak. that place i like.. selalu pegi tapi they close shop...sigh

Sape da try Mad Jack kat Jalan Kayu, best tak?
 
sharena,
me & my brood(hb incl boleh?) will be there for the gathering. but do you think we can push the timing arnd 30mins later cause my bujang slalu nap time arnd 1pm-3pm lah...food wise, i can bring some cakes i guess...tengok lah how many of us. nanti seret-beret kang....i hv Pm you my number k?

ic,
i've been to the 2hothalal cafe kat esplanade quite a few times since they open. oklah the food, pedas tu bolehlah jugak. depends on your taste i guess. but my opinion is that banyak choice/variety lah esp for the little ones...kesian gitu if i go there wt my kids.their food macam fusion gitu lah. hjh maimunah lagi best, lagi value for money!
 
Hi ic

I dah try 2hot kat vivo.. ok ok aje lah. Q ex jugak for something that u can get outside at a cheaper price.

I dah lama nak mkn hjh maimunah tapi asyik takde chance je. Tak pernah try pun! Kesian betul. Time bulan puasa slalu pack so always tak jadi mkn sana. Lagipun lagi best beli dari bazaar then mkn while jln2.
 
hey sasha

kalau u bwk ur hb then i can bring mine as well lah. That day dia off so kena tinggal kat rumah sorang2 kesian jugak but ur hb blh ckp melayu? He's nt local kan?
 
sharena,
yeah great. at least they hv kaki also. he's nt local, mcm mane u tau ni ;)his mly boleh lah jugak. he faham sikit-sikit lah. can sort of make out what we are trying to say.

alah, they'll come uo wt their own language to communicate wt..hehe

eh, no one else joining the gathering ke?
 
i'm interested in the gathering. as i tot most of u won't bring ur hub so i told my hub juz sent me there only...for the place n time at abt 3.30pm willbe fine for me too...lookinh forward 4 the gathering...

i seldom log on cos @ofis cannot log in to the forum so i just update by reading the emails.....

zu, if ur going 4 the meet up ..can bring my bowl along...thanks.
 
Hi mummies. Sorry, can't make it this Sat cos my little prince has a class around that time. It's really a great idea, though. You guys enjoy yourselves!
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Hi Lani, understand u getting a 3D Elmo cake for your dd. Initially tot of getting a 3D cake too but comments from others is that they use buttercake hence its not as soft as sponge cake. Anyway, i'm sure ur dd is gonna be bowled over.
 
Hey Lani,
Where you bought the cake from for your daughter?

From you mummies said,
Kalau gitu, macam 2hothalalcafe take best aje. Like that oklah, i save my money. Mad jack kat jalan kayu? Exactly near where? I tahu kat situ banyak kopitiam mama jual roti prata. This Mad jack kedai melayu jual apa?
 
waah.. so many updates..

BKK - another place tt sells superb thai halal food is at Mak Yah's Restaurant. can't remember the exact road but its walking distance from Asia Hotel punye mrt station.

Gathering - wah love to join the fun.. but don't think I can make it.

Mad Jack - sells mainly western dishes. They are famous for their fish n chips which is quite good and its def cheaper than 2hothalal cafe. chicken chop sells about $6 plus onwards..and got nice cakes/desserts also. Their baked rice is not so nice btw...
 
ic
da tentu nama dia Mad Jack.. takkan la dia kedai Melayu. Kalau kedai Melayu, name dia Kassim Gile..hehhehe

Anyway good review from pumpkin, so bole la try....
 
hi everybody

just came back from my weekend getaway with my kids... boy it was such a mean feat enduring 2 highly dependent kids on a long drive hols.. I really got to really learn to detach myself from them and really have a good hols alone with hubby only.... sigh... (must die-die convince myself I deserve it.. hehehee...)

so you mummies planning a meet-up.. so sayang can't join coz dd got class & later dh already got tixs to the zoo... another family outing.. aaahhhh...
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ic,
the usual place lah, ecreative. last yr her bday also from there. hubby's family liked the cake, very nice design and taste quite ok lah, so this yr i stick to them again lah, but different design. last yr Pooh, this yr Elmo. all these according to what my dd is crazy abt at the moment lah. next yr tak tahu apa pulak will be her craze....macam2 lah budak-budak sekarang....dulu kita punya turn i tak ingat ini semua...
 
Hey Lani,
Is the cake at Ecreative halal? Was just wondering. How much fo you pay for it? What's the size? Do they have any Thomas / CARS 3D cake? How about Dora/Hello Kitty? My 2 kids' bday are coming really soon so need to scout for cakes. Thanks.
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Eh this thread is goin so super fast than I expected.. so many things goin on ah!! The GATHERING!! Ala been waiting for it sekali got to know u gals are doin it on this Sat?? Sayangnya tak boleh join!!! DS ade class around tht time la!! Ishhh What a waste kan...
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Kak Boo
apologies for my ignorance, I tak tahu tht cake ade yg halal ke tak.. all I know kan if takde liquor or wine or watsoever yg tak halal means its halal to me. When I called ecreative last yr to order a cake for Sharf, they said they tak pakai all tht so I ordered for him a 3D aeroplane. U can try call them up or tgk website dorang..they have so many designs..
here's the website www.ecreative.com.sg

RMS
No wonder when I scroll up didnt see any of your postings..Will be going for our short getaway with DS nxt wk..tak tahulah mcm mana nanti..hopefully tak banyak rewel la si kecik ni..The last time we went he was ok so we shall see..
 
blackraspberry,
Got!
1. Swensen, 2. polar puffs, 3. blossoms, 4. secret recipe are all certified halal! That's so far i know. Any mummies tahu lagi, please add on to the list.
E-creative tak certified halal. Actually kan, depends on individu. Ada very particular, ada tak.
Tapi kalau i celebrate dgn my parents, selalu, my parents celebrate birthdays lah..kitanye family macam gitu (excuse untuk gathering & makan), so i mesti beli kek halal. Hmm..kalau tidak, sure kena from my daddy. My hubby pun gitu, kalau boleh, dia kata beli certified halal. So my choices kan limited. But so far, nasib baik now got more selection of choices to order cakes daripada dulu.
 
Boo, u can try Blossoms. Cake dia very nice!! I tak ingat cake ape i ordered utk Adam tp sume ckp v nice. But i know it was chocolate cake. Secret recipe nye cake more utk adult nye selera.hahaha... Polar puffs not nice. I dun like. Maybe kalo tkde cake cartoon from them i dun tink i will buy from Polar.

Swensens ada Cars nye cake. I baru blikan my nephew. Cost ard $40+. Quite ex lar.
 
Any mummies tahu tak kalau secret receipe ada those cartoon keks for children? Or cuma normal? Coz selalau i belikan untuk my parents, i just buy off the shelf from the rest.

I tengah excited ni.. telefon studios tanya pasal harga..nak ambil gambar dgn my darling son...
 
Hi Shermin,
Yup! What I meant by Halal and 'tak Halal' is exactly like what ic mentioned. Whether it's certified Halal or not. I normally will go for the one that is certified Halal although I know it narrows the choices very much. Kadang it's some of the other ingredients used that is not Hala. Well, this is what I have been told. Also what I found out when I read about Hala and Haram ingredients. So became 'was-was'. Hence, decided to forego such itemslah. But, now Hubby and kids somewhat get the hang of things. Even my dd dah pandai reject offers of marshmallows given by some of my friends or strangers cos she says that she doesn't know if they are certified halal or otherwise. It's true also what ic says about people's preference.
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Harlow Zu,
Thanks for the info about Blossoms. Where's that anyway? Will check it out. Do they have Hello Kitty or CARS/THOMAS' cakes? Otherwise, maybe Swenson's is a good idea. Thanks for reminding me. The thing about my son is that, the last time I bought him a Thomas cake (a small one, Thanks Heavens), he refused to eat it cos he wants the cake to stay in its original look. Lol. Kan kelakar..

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ic,
Where do you stay? I know there's one really popular studio in the west called BRIGHT studio. Very good photography and has won many awards. Have you also checked out the one at Forum? At the ground floor? Sound like great fun. Ambik gambar dgn darling son ajeke? What about sweetie hubbie? Hehehe...
 
Cakes:
I tk so particular. My fave still Angie's or Swensens ice-cream cakes. Lucky for me, my family members semua tk cerewet lah except one of my aunts who is quite devout lah. But she tk kisah or offended, if the cake nt halal, then she tk mkn lah.

So who cfm going for the gathering this Sat then?
 
boo,
Oi..jauhnya. West side terlampau jauh for me. I dah buat decision mana satu nak pergi. Hari ini, busy shortlisting and telefon studio tanya pasal harga. So sekarang dah decide. Go for it lah! Tak ler.. mesti with hubby jugak. Satu familylah.
 
boo,
i pun tak tahu cake ada halal and non-halal! i pun sama as shermin, ingat asalkan takde alcohol, then can eat.

anyway, ecreative cake not certified halal. the 3D cakes are $180, but very very big. can feed 50-100 ppl lah! last yr my dd's b'day almost 40+ guests still had some leftover cake - the pooh head! pooh punya badan, kaki, tangan all dah makan!

ic,
i think secret recipe don't have any cartoon cakes. as for polar cakes, they have, but the tast really not nice lah! i just bought a small hello kitty cake for sarah a week ago and the taste not so nice. we all makan pun tak habis. i think you should try either swensen's or blossoms lah.
 
Wah! Cakap pasal 3D cake sounds so exciting. Kita dulu pun tk pernah ada gitu. Kalau I my mum asyik beli garfield... pasal suka sucing tu. Now pun i ada pet garfield (betul nye tau)!! hehehe

Hey ic

the studio yg i ambik package korea and studio, also does family pics tau but i dunno how much lah they charge.. Can call them... Style Bridal 65471993, or u can ask my photographer, she's v gd. Her name is Lily 96960728. She's now at another bridal shop kat thomson but dunno if they do family shots.

I pun nak buat but then tunggu my daghter besar sikit, tapi nanti takut ada second one pulak.. hahaha

At the moment cuma sasha, me and ryatie aje yg can make it for the gathering..Btw, my hubby ada pool competition (company punya) so tak dpt ikut lah.

Shermin, ur dd's class habis kul brape.. u can always join us after that lah..
 
oh ya lupa nak tanya, you guys pernah nampak toy Elmo yg boleh ketawa terbahak2 sampai boleh fall and get up himself tak? I saw it in you tube which someone recorded.. cute lah. My dd pun suka tgk elmo...and my hb too! Let me know eh..
 
Sharena, dat Elmo isit yg anniversary special nye? If yes, then i nampak pat Toys R Us pat Jurong Point. Mahal seh! $99! Then limited to one per customer only. By the way, me pon gg, pon sorang jgk. Hb keje lar. U nak go with me tak? I stay pat CCK, dekat je.
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Boo, Polar ada jugak cake Thomas. Tp mcm Lani cakap, memang ak sedap. The same amt le bli kek sedap pat secret Recipe. Yg Blossoms tu tak ingat la. U kene pi dorang nye kedai tgk catalogue. Tp dorang le 'tampal' yg hero nye gambar atas cake. Jgn dia sayang nk makan sudah. :p

So, i put a list for sesape yg interested for gathering ok.
Nak bawak apape tak? Bola ke, bubbles etc
Sape yg nak pegi, pls PM contact to Sharena.
Venue: Botanics Gardens, Visitor's Centre
Date: 17th March 07
Time: 3pm
1. zu and adam
2. sasha and family
3. sharena and gal
4. ryatie and family

Hm... takde lagi ke?
 
Sharena,
I nampak your msg dah terlambat. I dah confirm dgn studio lain. That's one thing settled.

Lani,
Err..i don't really like blossoms. I saw polar ada sesame street. Not sure kalau dia orang boleh buat 3D. Ok lah..polar puffs kek pada i ok aje. I suka dia punya mango kek. Tapi kalau tak 3D also nevermind lah. Asalkan ada kek. Tak payah pampered my son too much lah.
 
Sharena
Tak boleh pegi la..gathering starts at 3pm,DS's class starts at 4.15pm..takkan nak hang around with u mummies for only 45mins..so boring kan..duduk belum panas then nak kena rush off to the school. Its ok lah sure to join the next time round,insyaallah..
U mummies have fun ok..

Lani
Where is blossom? Is the cake nice,maybe can put in the list for his bday this yr. Ecreative won the designs, the taste wise not that superb eh..
 
WAH! BESAR NYA KEK TU!!!

So dlm aeroplane tu is it hollow? Or filled with sponge cake??

Lawa tu lawa but ecreative punya mahal lahh
 
WAH! BESAR NYA KEK TU!!!

So dlm aeroplane tu is it hollow? Or filled with sponge cake??

Lawa tu lawa but ecreative punya mahal lahh
 
Wow!!! Besar betul. Hehehe...Can definitely fit lots of mouths. Do they have various sizes? Definitely expensive but the design is extremely beautiful. I'm sure my ds would LOVE it...especially if it's a car or a train.
 
zu,
i will bring my usual things when i go botanic gardens: tikar (maknye boleh relaks
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, bubbles, inflatable balls & all their stuff lah...

sharena,
u mean the Elmo TMX or smthg is it? the one yg last yr sold out tu? if thats it, i saw it the other day at toys r us, united square.

shermin,
i think blossoms got one at singapoer post ctr, paya lebar...B2. nut i may be wrong ah...cant remember.

gosh the cake is so gigantic. kalau i just hv 1 child, ok lah jugak to spend so much on the cake, but wt 4 of them...terbakar jugak pocket their daddy
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lani,
how was the zoo?

cakes: i am quite particular abt taste, therefore rather stick to smthg i am familiar wt. then juz give my kids the options of designs that the cake company have...

gathering: eh, i harap-harap weather is gd that day!
 
i show your sarah's Pooh b'day cake last yr from ecreative:

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shermin,
blossoms is at B2 of S'pore Post Centre. they are actually a bakery, but also sell cakes.

sasha,
oh we had LOADS of fun at the zoo today! will definitely go back again very soon, cause we missed some of the exhibits, and also did not manage to catch the shows.
 
zu i'd pm u my hp no...i cannot log in at ofis..so seldom reply to forum...so any changes can sms me...tentatively be abt 3.30pm...
 
Lani

Lawa lah pooh cake...

Ya i was looking for elmo tmx.. so far i think toys r us aje ada and it's ex too, $99. My hb and I suka and it's v entertaining.. can cheer anyone up dgn gelagat dia tu.

I also ordered from amazon which is abt 10 cheaper than here incl shipping and handling..

Hopefully i can get it soon lah...
 
Hi mummies,
I'm trying to establish a listing of halal certified cake shops. i think this will be very useful especially for those who are particular or have any muslim guests that are particular.

Halal certified cake shops:
1. Swensens
2. Polar puffs
3. Secret Recipe
4. The Royals
5. Eatzi(halal branch of Jack's place)-they can do 3D.
6. Blossoms

Please continue the list if you know anymore..
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Lani, u pi zoo tak ajak? haha.. I tink Adam pon quite bosan asyik pi sane je. Tapi the playground he definitely enjoy. Zoo byk new devt now so quite interesting.

Yo sharena, u tak accept private message la.
u PM my yr number je lar.

ryatie i gt yr number liao.
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By the way, Sharena now afternoon slalu hujan. So if tmr weather dun permits, amacam? Cancel yah? Then u must make sure u hv everyone number so u cn sms them in case outing is cancel ok.

Shermin/Lani, lawa lar kek bday korang! Mesti sayang bile nk kene potong eh!
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Kalo Adam gt bday kek like day, mesti dia say Mama, WAH!!!!!!! hahaha.. Tp dia da bilang da dia nk kek Mcqueen!

ic, ada lagi satu halal cake bakery. Yg buat kek durian tu. Lupe lak nama dia. Tp dia ada outlet pat Bukit Panjang Plaza. Mak2 yg tinggal BP tau la gaknye. Tapi kek durian, a bit overwhelming for kid bday la. hehe..
 


Mummies
The cake is big tapi nak potong very leceh..

Sharena,
The aeroplane is not hollow, its sponge cake but the wings,tail and silver small aeroplane are all chocolates thats why punya la susah nak potong!!Or should I say sayang nak potong!! Hahahah!!!

Sasha,
I agree with u, the taste of the cakes should be top of list when searching for one. My guests and family members said the cake is delicious but I don't think so la..Not up to my standard. Overall Ds yg cant stop scrutinized his cake!

Lani
Sarah's face so cute!!!Mcm terperanjat pun ada bila nmpk cake pooh dia!!! Mcm mana u potong? And I can also see a bit off the agar2 beside the cake, u ordered those from one of the muumies in the forum ke? Is it nice?

Ic
I think that cake cost over $100 agaknya..cant really remember exact amount.

Btw, can u all believe it that my ds belum pernah pergi Zoo??!!! Too hard to believe eh..I think he's 3rd Bday should buat kat sana ah..Nak bawa at early age, dia masih belum tahu apa2 so maybe now is about time la..but he knows all the animals la just that have not seen the real ones..those wild ones I mean..
 

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