(2009/09) September 2009 MTBs

Oh ya Shelled,
i jus recall, the difference between premiere single bed & normal single bed, i think premiere singe bed their charges are itemise/Al Cate unlike normal single is package?
 


Princessxiaomei - I think i might sound bad saying this lah...but ur FIL and MIL really nonsense leh...dun help out still say this say that...then this cannot that cannot. Poor you
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Dun be depress okie, not good for bb...for bb must tahan...also hope ur hubby recover liao then he can give u the emotional support
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Dun everything keep inside okie...
 
michelle: that's y i really wonder if he really base on my pelvis size/birth canal.. if that's really true, then no chance for natural lor... He didn't tell my other friend to c-sect at all leh.. wierd..

Shelled: **faintz**
 
<font color="aa00aa">michelle</font>
How i wish i can move back but there's no space for me. Before i officially(as in traditional customary wedding!!!) married off, i was sharing my room with 4 people..... :)

<font color="aa00aa">sheryn/girlygirly</font>
I sort of got confused with you 2 yesterday! Cos both of you had similar situation... now i am not confused already!

I have not done my Strep B yet and i hope i will pass the test!!!

<font color="aa00aa">ning</font>
Don't care ah.. i also find them bad... each time my hb so bek chek with me complaining about these to him, he get so irritated and we 2 ended up quarrelling..... he say his whole house all ill treat me la blah blah blah (sarcastic leh!).... but well, i am really victim leh!

My hb recovers liao... but back to busy at work.. so he very stress now... that weekend he sick we even more problem cos it's H1N1 thingy... his friend at work got H1N1, my hb 90%.. then i 70%... confirm H1N1..... can you imagine the stress we had.... then Fil added on thos shit craps.....
 
princessxiaomei> hais. really feel so bad for u. dunno how to help u too. but seriously only u can put up with them. heng my hubby is like king at hm. he say one word, nobody will say anything. but i m de queen tat rule over him. haha. so i got the biggest say =x

n best is, i m staying alone with hubby. hoho. no one to control me. yippie!! =)

sherry> nvm la. if ur gynae really think its better to csect, den csect. nxt time try anotber gynae =p
 
<font color="aa00aa">michelle</font>
ya loh. that's why i think i very patient with them le... they always give me problems... nothing but problems... even during my rom in 2006 and customary in 2008... nothing but tears for me, quarrels between hb &amp; i.... all bcos of them.... especially fil.... i am the princess..i want means i want... my hb will try his best give in.. but he got to answer to the emperor and empress dowager!
 
Baby weight: dont get too stressed about their weight as long as they are healthy. My 1st born was only 2.3kg - otherwise a healthy, happy baby which is more important.

princess: *hugs* to you...
 
princessxiaomei
Open door to sleep then they'll keep coming into the room, how to sleep? Sigh... really feel for you but dunno how to advice or suggest to you. Hang in there lah.. u're getting your own place right? Just keep thinking of that and u'll feel better.
 
<font color="ff0099">flower4</font>
Eh, no matter what type of ward @ TMC also got package one lah. Then the miscellaneous charges that are not under package are all itemised.


<font color="ff0099">Sherry</font>
Emergency c-sec. The operating theatre charges are slightly higher, and got some "callback fee" for doc's fees. That's the only diff between elect and emerg C-sec, me thinks.
 
princessxiaomei> hais. some pple juz dunno how to treasure deir dil. u so nice willing to stay with them, dey still niao here niao there. zz. if me i sure move out!! den i ask hubby. u wan move or not =p

shelled> wah. for ur emergency surprisingly not very costly.
 
<font color="aa00aa">beans</font>
Thanks for your HUGS. :)

<font color="0000ff">Clean baby's nose</font>
Anyone bought this item to clean baby's nose? Is it neccessary for us to get this? I think i saw this stuff is PIGEON brand. How do we actually use it and when do we have to use it? Anybody to 'enlighten me'? LOLS.

<font color="0000ff">Rubbing baby's tummy</font>
I understand that some people will rub some oil or what on baby's tummy... which direction do we go? Clockwise or Anti-clockwise? I forgot what Mrs Wong had taught, OMG~! Faintzz....
 
Princess,

*Hugs* Your MIL &amp; FIL are probably still in the " Don't know what era "

I understand how upset you can get. Partially the same issue for me here, Just that they don't really interfere with my privacy and offered to do my confinement for me. Just that she told my HB to tell me to bath the BB myself? And that my dog was kind of a threat to the baby's health. ( His 7 mth old niece and mine soon to come ) I can't and don't wanna move home during confinement because my Mom is a lame piece of **** who wanted me to PAY HER for looking after me during that one month, And she said that I cannot bring my clothes back to wash because I am " poured out water " So who will wash my clothes for me? My HB will have to bring bags of my clothes to the Self washing laundromat to wash... And SPEND MORE MONEY!!!

The HB sleeping with you part, Kinda lame... I only heard cannot go out during the one month because those "dirty things" will follow us or something ( Especially now going into 7 mth yea? ). So you have to talk to your HB to let his parents know what the both of you want to do and whatever consequences you both will bear it. My HB says he will bath BB everyday for me before he heads to the salon. ( Pray that BB don't perspire if not I will have to do it after he leaves home ) I have my fears that my MIL will think I am lazy too ( But I am NOT ) >.<

So yea.. Staying with in-laws... This kind of shit happens.
 
<font color="aa00aa">itsy</font>
Precisely loh. Everything is just for their own CONVENIENCE i can say. It's always like that. I have gone through so much hell, buckets of tears, tons of heart attack with them. And i have not open my mouth to SHOUT or SHOOT back directly! YEARS already... i tolerate! I teared, i argued, i complaint..... all behind close door to my hb! I am still very filial and respect them. But yet people staying in the same house could say i am NOT RESPONSIBLE etc!!!! Even say i 没有家教!!!! ROAR! Close door already cannot sleep well with my MIL frequent banging on my door, twisting the door knobs, coming in when i never lock door...... she did that is to SEE if my hb is at home..... see one time not enough, must see at least 5 times within few hours! This morning, 7 times within 30 mins!

Nobody can help me except HDB and the contractors doing the entire house. >.<

I'm dying to shift out. So everything i think of that, i am happy. Making me MOOD SWING like shit. LOL!

<font color="aa00aa">michelle</font>
Yeah man! When i shift out, they will regret! I felt that i am already very nice as in i don't scream/shout/argue with them even they say me, accuse me. Most of my clothes i wash myself, even with my big belly! Before i was pregnant, i even help to iron everybody's clothes, fold everybody's clothes!!! ( i did that even before i got ROM!!!!!!! willingly~) Now pregnant, my hb say don't do. PHEW! Haaaaa....

Not i don't want to move........ my flat still not ready! Sobz! Waiting to get hold of my keys! I really hope i would get my keys ASAP! DYING to shift in! That kind of dying-attitude! Hahahahaaaaa......
 
princessxiaomei> keke. think dey say if wan clear bb's nose when he got flu, best is suck out n spit away. although it sounds yucky. but tat's de best way.

ren abit. soon u get ur house n move out. hoho. no more naggin =p den deir turn beg u bring their grandson back to see them. haha

pamelia> omg. if hubby dun sleep with me during 7th mth, i will get nightmare =x
 
shelled

may i know why the breakdown have 'Accomodation $546', as u were stauying at premier ward for $488 per nite? isnt the px including in the $2315?
 
<font color="aa00aa">pamelia</font>
Precisely! I feel they seemed to come from ancient years like that..... the weather FREAKING hot... they think don't bathe ONE MONTH and live without any minimal cooling temperature is NOT PROBLEM. Basically they're not us, they say until SOUND so EASY. He could even tell me, "忍一个月就好了。没什么大不了。" And said my MIL last time also like that. How true, i cannot be bothered. LAst time police wear shorts, now police wear long pants. @_@ *rOLLmyEYES*

Usually he don't really interfere in my privacy but each time very near the important date, he will say and demand stupid things. I gone through so much.. really so much.. even life &amp; death things before wedding, i also kena! I will never be able to forget loh. Not say i very un-forgiving or what. But it's really very ridiculous! -.-

Your case and my case similar. Problems are really created by these elders rather than ourselves. Don't know what their brain are made of! Seriously making us even more frustrated! Thinking we are in the modern generation... will harm their grandchild like that! Stupid thinking and stupid reasoning!

Yah, i also heard about the dirty things follow us etc... i went back to ask my mum.. and in fact, she said why am i so pantang... not this kind of dirty lah.. see lah.. duh! Usually we don't really go out like normal days during confinement period.. but i know i sure have to get out of the house for few hours. To go ICA and do birth cert, maybe i need to go back to gynae's clinic for what check up? Maybe i need to go back to mum's place just to do massage? ALso not go shoppingggg.... so if i step out and FIL kpkb... i act DEAF and ask hb to settle. I am not going to settle. I keep my COOL! I must try to keep my COOL! I don't want to get postnatal depression because of my ignorant &amp; problematic FIL.

Staying with in laws really is a shit! Out of 10 friends, only 1 will tell me they love staying with their in laws because their in laws really treat them good! ENVY right! This is only 1% out of 100% loh. Hahahahaaaa.....
 
<font color="aa00aa">michelle</font>
Suck it and spit away? Suck that time won't it goes back into our throat? Don't know if i know how to do it or not... omg~

Yes, they will then beg us to go back... sorry ah.. it will then be my turn to do the saying! I am too busy working... need to work and earn money.. then so tired... need to sleep.... so no energy no time!

7th month - i am always scare one lor. That's why i insisted my hb to stay with me when i'm at ESH. That time when i was admitted to KKH, i was so scared and tramatized even it's BROAD DAYLIGHT leh! Last few days when my hb slept in the living room and i alone in the room, i was already scared and kept thinking there's ghost and monsters around! Wahahahahaaa......
 
Princess,

It's now a different generation but if they cannot accept our ways sometimes we just have to " Orh Orh Orh " But behind them do it our way and try not to let them find out lo. =3

Another way is you ask your HB to negotiate with them. That's what my HB does ( Though he will blow up at them if they don't give in ) Which I dislike him to. =3

Meanwhile... Just swallow a little.... Endure a little... We will have our own haven soon.
 
princessxiaomei> i dun think will ba. my colleague tell me to do it tat way. cos its one of de best way to clear bb's nose.

haha. we same. very scare of ghose n monsters. tat y i olways need hubby to accpy me -_-"

haha. ya. when u move out. haha. deir turn beg u to go back. lallaa. not tryin to teach bad stuffs to u. but some pple juz need to learn things de hard way =p
 
*shelled* *michelle*
low fat milk low carb oso mah...coz i cannot take hi carb drink and food...

*princess*
u jiayou too! wah really tong bue tiao ur FIL leh...think his idea of nt closing door is TOO MUCH leh...gt wear bra or nt is one issue la...bt nt nice of FIL seeing DIL sleeping lor...even for a father who has seen 'EVERYTHING' of his daughter when daughter is young/small, it wldn't be nice when daughter has grown up and daughter doesn't close door while sleeping with father around the house...
AND WAH...ur FIL nt PAISEH one meh when asked u nt to close bedrm door...ya if u breastfeed hw? he wanna watch oso??

I think u are really a beri nice/good DIL...and ur hub beri filial son...If my hub hear all these rubbish fr his parents, they r waiting to get scolded mann...anyway my FIL nt around le la...bt i noe my hub won't be able to stand all these 'rubbish' oso...

if i were u, i'll simply locked the door liao...I beri bad i noe bt coz they r worst!! Sori arh...to criticise them...hope ur hub don't get to see these, heehee..

*sheryn*
wah so long never hear fr u le...oh ya our bb abt the same wt then and their mommies r of the same ht n sz oso, haha...

bt i luv coconut leh...esp wif this kind of weather...if u dun like the taste, can juz haf at least 1-2times per wk? coz since u 38 weeks le, at most drink 3-4times if u gonna delivered exactly at 40wks...so that bb will be cleaner and less heat rashes...

And i haf passed the B strep test. Juz a lil yeast infection which are gao tim wif a single dose of medication inserted into the V...
 
girly> keke. den like tat really hard to gain weight. keke. but nvm la. as long as u r healthy. think de weight gain is not impt =)

same. i oso pass de strep b test, but got some infection which haf to use de insertion medication.
 
*princess*

cleaning of bb's nose...actually i find using the 'kiap kiap' thing easier...haha...actually it look something like the eye brow tweezer and we can actually pinched out the nose dirt. I had tried using the 'kiap kiap' and 'pump pump' bt personally find the tweezer like thing is better for extracting the dirt...

the oil u r refering to izzit the lu yi you?? some bb tend to haf colic or wind in the tummy after a milk feed coz might haf swallow air during the process...juz haf to pour a lil bit of the oil on ur palm, rub ur palm till they turned warm then gently rub on bb's tummy with an up to down motion...
 
shelled: for emergency c-sec is not expensive leh.. ur gynae fee is 2400??


anyone has any idea how much isit to b in mt.e single bedder??
 
re: loose stools
i'm oso having them leh.. i tot preg more vulnerable to constipation.. but instead i am "outputing" v well these days..!

as for heartburns.. i tink u can actually visit ut GP to get some med.. juz saw a GP today.. gave me some acid reflux med tat starts w "N"..
 
wah lao... i type so much all never post -.-' wonder what's wrong with the system.

Anyway, forgot what i typed also haha

Still thinking whether to choose B1, B2 or A1 wards heh. I don't think i want funny people assessing and poking me with some weird stuff.

Guess my bb's weight average eh, since gynae say not too big not too small, just nice. But like what they all say, HEALTHY is most important! We can always plump them up after giving birth
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pamelia: think i wanna drop by your saloon very soon :D

oh and mummies who have popped, do post &amp; share pictures of your precious on fb or here k? i want see!! hahhaaa!!
 
Shelled,
tat strange cuz dr wong nurse told me any room above normal single room , bills will be Ala carte leh,

now i refer to TMC website for various package, they did notmentioned wat is include wat is not include
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http://www.thomsonmedical.com.sg/maternity_pkg.htm

so end of the day is upto them to say tat tis not include tis not include &amp; charge separately one ah..
 
HEART BURN.
Yeah i have recover been taking "Gaviscon" its works.

Me jus back from late nite HK Dim Sum feast
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... soo satisfied
 
<font color="ff0099">jan jan</font>

If you refer to the TMC Maternity Package rates: http://www.thomsonmedical.com/maternity_pkg.htm

C-sec with Epi + 3 days stay = $3183, for NORMAL 1-bed

Mine is slightly customised bill due to staying in Premier Ward, so it's:
C-sec with Epi + 2 days stay = $2135
Premier Ward charges (Accomodation) = $546
Total = $2861

So even if I had stayed 3 days, my total would still have only come up to $3349 for Premier Ward. So it's still somewhat correct?
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<font color="ff0099">Sherry</font>
Yah, my total gynae fee for the whole hospitalisation is $2400. Maybe cheaper cos she's the gynae for the Katong branch of Thomson Women's Clinic? So got "friend friend" price for delivering in TMC?


<font color="ff0099">flower4</font>
What exactly do you mean by "ala carte" billing?? If you referring to itemised billing, like stating VE how much, pads how much, this kind of thing hor, last time when I stay TMC 2-bedded also have itemised billing leh. That's how I found out they charged me $20+ to shave my pubic area! That's why I told mommies better to go BW before delivery.

I think the maternity package price only includes room rate + medical procedure fees (ie: in my case, cost of C-sec).

So late you just come back from dimsum feast?!
 
Shelled,
hee hee..sudden crave for dim sum, u still up ah , feed baby K isit ?

oh i mean Ala carte billing is there is not package for 1 bedded room &amp; above.. erm. maybe i check further with my gynea nurse la, i dun wish to convert 1 bedded to 2 bedded room jus because they shortage of 1 bedded room when during my delivery... and pay the same price.. wait treated like 2 bedded room std and im payin 1 bedded room price. your hubby make a right choice to jus pay the diff to upgrade to a better one, Premeire single bedded room
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.. i will note to my hubby
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..

Here TMC website mentioned DAILY RATE for various Room Type for Premeire is SGD522.17 (Include GST), yours add your hubby stay then higher

http://www.thomsonmedical.com.sg/fees.htm
 
princess/michelle: wun e nasal cleanser work for clearing bb's nose? i nt confident of sucking fr bb's nose leh..
i oso scared of 7th mth.. dun tink too much la.. hopefully tis 1 mth quickly pass

re: bb massage
i oso forgot e massage moves tat mrs wong taught us.. only remember e "i love u", cupping of e hands to "scoop" e wind from chest downwards n walking of e fingers fr left to rite (i tink) to "break" e air bubbles..


flower4: is Gaviscon safe for preg? i din dare buy to take so i went to see a GP to get e med..
 
princess: juz read ur posts abt ur PIL.. calm down la.. older generation folks tend to b like tat.. cannot let them get to us.. muz remain cheerful for bb's sake!!

re: hospital bags
btw, can anyone share wat to pack for hospital bags?? clueless on wat to bring leh
 
girly: wow.. u're only 49kg.. i tink i'm gg to put on 15kg at least.. oredi past e 60kg mark..
but nevertheless, dun worry abt bb's size at full term la.. small oso nt a "bad" thing.. if u stop dieting nw, with ur GD, bb might b big n nt healthy.. no gd for bb oso..

cheer up!
 
<font color="ff0099">flower4</font>
Eh? But they got listed maternity package for 1-bed mah. So should have? But like you said lor, the package never state what is included or not. Better to check with your gynae lah.

Yah. The Premier Single rate is correct lor. $488/day is before GST mah. After GST then $522.17 lor.


<font color="ff0099">Huishan</font>
Yes, they do accept credit card for payment of deposit upon admission. Visa &amp; Mastercard lor. For deposit amount, you can check here: http://www.thomsonmedical.com.sg/maternity_pkg.htm (pls scroll to bottom of the price chart)
 
Princess
wah ur Fil really one kind one hor. but its weird cos usually its the MIL v v troublesome n fussy one but ur case is ur FIL? why would he wanna meddle into so much of his son's family affair? i think he got nothing better else to do is it? go ask him to join the senior citizen club in CC lah and take his mind off all these nitty gritty stuffs which he shouldnt even have a hand lor. so petty leh. and abt ur hub cat sleep with you cos u r dirty? tell him then might as well quarantine u and everybody move out for time being cos u r dirty woman for the whole mth. LOL

patient patient ok! just do what u think is correct lah. most impt is, ur hub is on ur side. this is his family, not his family's family so he is right to stand up for u lor.

Shelled
hey hey hw is the feeling now that u r a mom of 2??? ur confinement catering came already?
 
morning mummies...i'll be delivering nxt fri at TMC..scheduled c-sect...will be taking 1 bedded..this is my 2nd delivery..1st was emerg c-sec as i stop dialating at 3cm..this time rnd doc advice me nt to try VBAC as baby is bigger this time...

kinda sad also..want to try normal birth so much..
 
oic.. i also going to c-sec cos my 1st one was emerg c-sec too cos dialted until 4cm then stop liao. So this time round, the gyane advised me to opt for c-sec. I choosing 8days before my EDD date and haven told my gynae but wondering the date I chosen too near to EDD date.
 
Shelled,
got according to my gynea nurse normal single bedded got package but above tat no package one, so is Ala carte lor..

later i try to call thomson medical &amp; check.

Yes, The Premier Single rate $488/day is before GST mah. After GST then $522.17, but you state your accomodation SGD546.00, then i was thinking maybe becos of your hubby stay or additional meals for him..
 
moojenn, it's ok to choose a date 8 days before..even if the baby wanna come out earlier they still wont charge u as emerg c-sect coz u already plan to c-sect...anyway which date did u choose? which hosp r u gg?
 
oic relieved to hear that cos I haven ask my gynae on that too. I've chosen 20 Sept and I will be delivering at Mt A. What about you, which hosp you going?
 
i've asked my gynae tat qn before..coz heard some ppl labour at 37 wks...just in case my son wanna come out at 37 wks..

im gg to thomsom medical centre...

btw i've been having painful braxton hicks for 2 nites already...anybody experience a painful braxton hicks..i tot it's not suppose to be painful..
 
Are you not suppose to drink Black Chicken Herbal soup at this point? Because my MIL made it yesterday and I drank it and felt awful after. Hot, my belly hurt but I managed to rest a little and even went for my walk.

But before I went to sleep it started again 12mn, soooo hot, thirsty and when I woke up at 1.30am again because it was sooo hot and I had to drink lotsa water before finally falling asleep again.
 


tasha,
From dumex webby ;
Coping with Braxton Hicks

If you find your Braxton Hicks painful then maybe you're doing too much? Try having a sit or lie down on your side (not your back). If that doesn’t work try gently moving around a bit or relax in a warm bath. It's also possible you could be a bit dehydrated, so drink plenty of water.
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im in 39 week, haven experience any braxton hicks til now.

wat is your bb weight now tat your gynea suggest u go for c-section?

my gynea haven advise me whether my will be C-section or Natural yet
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. my bb head is down but not down enuf yet and gynea is yet to do VE on me. my next gynea appt is next monday..

the last Gynea visit last wed, she say i still got alot of water bb still able to move around, tat all. oso my bb weight still ok..

so am not sure wat bb weight then mus go for c-section?
 

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