(2009/09) September 2009 MTBs

<font color="0077aa">shelled</font>
welcome back!! great to be home hor :p
ya how's ur stitches and wound?

share ur story leh.. when u free! and i wanna see ur new little prince pics :p share share!


<font color="0077aa">girly</font>
jiayou.. as long as ur minnie gal is healthy rite.. and cute.. doesnt matter how tiny she is.. jia you!!
 


<GIRLYGIRLY

Wah, so nice, put on so little...i've put on 14kgs and at 36 weeks baby was only 2.4kgs!!
Somemore, at 36 weeks discovered my amniotic fluid is very low, so this whole week on MC, drinking lots of water to monitor level. If still low, she has to come out earlier than expected!

>MICHELLE
Is the infant care you were talking about PCF sparkletots? Am thinking of going over to take a look at their infant care too!

>SHELLED &amp; JUL
Congrats!! Wow, i thought c-section must stay in hospital for 4 days 3 nights?!

>JENIFUR
I guess with Jed back at home, the most convenient way to collect the nipple cream and babymall stuff is from your home? But I can only collect it this wkend as as hubby comes home late on wkdays....provided i don't need to induce birth this wkend, that is
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michelle, new MTB :

bb last week weigh 3kg.. so i guess this week ard 3.15?? i am oni 1.55....

true.. it's better to do elect c-sec rather than to end up emergency c-sec.. but i dun understand y ppl ard me of the same size as me can give birth to a big bb eg.. 3.5/3.6kg... and my gynae keep thinking i cant...
 
<font color="ff0099"><font size="+2">THOMSON MEDICAL CENTRE - Breakdown of Hosp Charges</font>
<font size="+1">Package Type - C-sec with Epi / 1-bedded 2 days stay @ $2315.00</font></font>

(For Premier Ward, Level 5 @ $488/day)

<table border=1><tr><td> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font size="+1">OUT OF PACKAGE ITEMS</font></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Companion Charge (1 night only)</TD><TD>75.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Labour Ward Services (Use of Labour Ward)</TD><TD>275.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Operating Theatre Charges</TD><TD>100.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Drugs/Medicine</TD><TD>231.25 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Medical Supplies</TD><TD>148.10 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Procedure</TD><TD>162.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Use of Equipment</TD><TD>287.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Facility</TD><TD>45.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Accomodation</TD><TD>546.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>TOTAL HOSP CHARGES:</TD><TD>4184.35 </TD></TR><TR><TD>MEDISAVE CLAIM:</TD><TD>-2500.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>SBI DISCOUNT:</TD><TD>-100.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>GST:</TD><TD>285.91 </TD></TR><TR><TD>TOTAL INCL GST:</TD><TD>4370.26 </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font size="+1">DOCTOR CHARGES</font></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Dr Loo (anesthetician) [non-medisave]</TD><TD>750.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Dr Geraldine Tan (gynae) [medisave]</TD><TD>1450.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Dr Geraldine Tan (gynae) [non-medisave]</TD><TD>950.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>TOTAL PROFESSIONAL FEES:</TD><TD>3150.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>SBI DISCOUNT:</TD><TD>-100.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font color="ff0099">GRAND TOTAL:</font></TD><TD><font color="ff0099">7420.25</font> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font color="ff0099">TOTAL MEDISAVE CLAIM:</font></TD><TD><font color="ff0099">3950.00</font> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font color="ff0099"> ANTENATAL MEDISAVE CLAIM:</font></TD><TD><font color="ff0099">600.00</font> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font color="ff0099">TOTAL CASH PAYABLE:</font></TD><TD><font color="ff0099">3470.25</font> </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font size="+1"><font color="0000ff">FOR BABY</font></font></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Baby Package - 2 days</TD><TD>338.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Medical Supplies</TD><TD>41.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Procedure (Newborn Hearing Test)</TD><TD>75.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Drugs/Medicine</TD><TD>15.10 </TD></TR><TR><TD>TOTAL: </TD><TD>469.10 </TD></TR><TR><TD>SBI DISCOUNT:</TD><TD>6.56 </TD></TR><TR><TD>GST:</TD><TD>32.38 </TD></TR><TR><TD>TOTAL BABY CHARGES, INCL GST: </TD><TD>494.92 </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font size="+1">PD CHARGES</font></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Dr Low [medisave]</TD><TD>100.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>Dr Low [non-medisave]</TD><TD>114.00 </TD></TR><TR><TD>SBI DISCOUNT: </TD><TD>21.40 </TD></TR><TR><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font color="ff0099">GRAND TOTAL:</font></TD><TD><font color="ff0099">687.52</font> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font color="ff0099">TOTAL MEDISAVE CLAIM:</font></TD><TD><font color="ff0099">558.54</font> </TD></TR><TR><TD><font color="ff0099">TOTAL CASH PAYABLE:</font></TD><TD><font color="ff0099">128.98</font> </TD></TR><TR><TD></td></tr></table>

Hope this helps!!
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<font color="ff0099">mama to 6Js</font>
Ya lah. Hosp stay is terrible for me. At least this time round 1-bedded, so slightly more bearable. But nonetheless, I always just wanna chop chop go home lah. Feel so useless and handicapped just "resting" in hosp!

Josh is pretty ok with his new brother. Got sayang didi's head and even kiss him. But he really hates how the grandparents say things like "Now you're korkor, must share everything with didi." Don't say him arh. I hear already also dulan. Who say must share EVERYTHING? If really my person item also must share meh?

My stitches are ok until I stand up from sitting position. Or when I cough. *sob sob* Dunno why, but 2nd time C-sec seems more painful than 1st time. Doc say it's cos inflicting new incision on old wound, therefore the healing will be slower, therefore more pain. I think maybe really need to close shop @ 2 kids liao.


<font color="ff0099">Jess</font>
What story you want me to share wor? Basically VBAC fail cos dilation stuck @ 4cm, then end up C-sec again lor.
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<font color="ff0099">Paige</font>
Minimum 48hrs for C-sec. But usually is 72hrs stay. But because I can walk and move generally well (and I complain like siao to my gynae), once again I go home before 48hrs are up. hurhur. I also discharge earlier after C-sec with #1.
 
sherry,
would you mind sharing how small you are and how big your bb is expected to be? i share with you my experience. i'm currently expecting my second kid. my first kid was 3.5kg at birth, and i'm considered small too, as i'm only 1.54cm in height and an XS-S person before pregnancy. but nobody ever ever broached the c-section topic to me using size as a reason because i was a subsidized patient at a public hospital. i may be wrong about some gynes, but in my personal opinion there are a lot of private gynes who would suggest c-section for the slightest reason because of the fact that they are able to plan their schedules nicely with these scheduled operations. i mean, who likes to be called back to the workplace at weird hours right? i think you should seriously consider if there is a real medical reason for going for c-section before you heed your gyne's advice. there are a lot of small sized women who go through natural birth too.

girly,
i had a colleague who had GD for all three pregnancies (like you, hers was all girls). first pregnancy she didn't control her diet well, so bb came out too big. second pregnancy she controlled her diet too well so bb came out too small. third pregnancy she just ate normally and everything was normal. i think having GD during pregnancy is really hard, cos you won't know whether you've gotta eat or control. but hang in there, cos you're almost reaching full term! anyway, weight is not everything. small but healthy, smart and pretty is a lot better than big and nothing else, hahaa!
 
<font color="0077aa">shelled</font>
hehe.. sorrie la.. :p
i read ur posts, that ur water bag broke in the late morning but then u admitted in hosp in late afternoon, can wait so long meh?

then i showed ur bill breakdown to my hubby and it was scary to us lo.. so exp wor... ur doc charges for c-sect very high issit? we worry not able to pay up liao.. and the option for single-bedded ward is a "regret" choice for now.. sighh

u rest well lo.. i read abt ur wound, i feel aching too.. dunno when my contractions will come or water bag break first.. all my colleagues say my bb not ready to come out yet.. cos top tip of belly still quite high...
my male boss tell me to wk till i am ready to deliver then go on maternity leave -_-"

but i cannot tahan lo.. yesterday morning b4 i leave for wk, my feet had finally reduced back to normal small size.. i was so happy.. but by midday, it swelled doubled AGAIN!.. and foremost i got 2 hours of sleep only.. cos of the itch..
 
*mama to 6Js* *Jess* *sarah* *paige* *sandwich*

thanks for trying to cheer me up...

think all mommies wld luv their bb to be borned fair and bouncy (bai bai pang pang)...

juz wonder if i will fall into depression seeing a pathetically tiny, vulnerable and preemie looking full term bb...

haha..anyway no choice..can oni pray hard for a healthy bb and smooth delivery nw...*hope so*

sandwich..luv ur 'small but healthy, smart and pretty is a lot better than big and nothing else'
wahahaha...
 
<font color="ff0099">Jess</font>
Yup, waterbag broke about 11am, I only reach labour ward about 4pm. Cos even though I reach hosp abt 3+, they had to check with this person and that person cos I having cough + sore throat. So I kinda failed their health check.

I even had to wear mask until I reach labor ward then they let me remove. Cos having contractions + cannot breathe properly thru the mask = very xinku.

I think you have to check with your doc how much your doc's fees are. Different doc, different rates. But the C-sec package is standard price one lor.

The top of my belly also quite high, cos K never engage mah. But my mucus plug also drop, my water also broke. So... (not trying to scare you arh) no guarantee one lor.

My feet also swollen again now. I remember after C-sec with J last time I also had very swollen feet for a few days.


<font color="ff0099">girlygirly</font>
Hey, a baby's size has nothing to do with how healthy they are. But if you don't follow your GD diet, then bb will really be at some risk lor. I know it's always upsetting to think that your child will not be born 白白胖胖, but her health is more important, right? You can always fatten her up with BM later.
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Maybe can ask your gynae if can switch to normal full cream milk instead? It might help "fatten" up your bb a little bit and make you feel better about the situation.


<font color="ff0099">Sherry</font>
I'm 1.68m tall and quite damn big size lor. (You can ask the mommies who have met me.) So it's RIDICULOUS that I have had to go under emergency C-sec TWICE because my 3.54kg and 3.725kg boys won't come out! OK, I admit my cervix probably has a dilation issue as well. But in both my pregnancies, both the boys didn't get engaged, and my gynae cites that as a reason why my dilation always kenna stuck @ 4cm. Because contractions are supposed to slowly push the bb down the birth canal and dilate your cervix, and since both my boys never got engaged, my cervix always got stuck @ 4cm. Gynae now 90% confirm that the reason why my boys don't get engaged is because their heads too big to fit into my cervix in the first place.

But think about it this way, if I'm so much bigger than you and I still have to C-sec twice cos no engagement and dilation tio stuck, then you being at 1.55m, you really might have some problem lor. Although I'd say, GIVE IT A SHOT! It might cost more if you eventually need emergency C-sec, but at least you know you gave natural birth a shot. That's why twice I actually attempted hours &amp; hours of contractions to try for natural before ending up with emerg C-sec. I just 不甘愿, u know? Until I try and it really don't work out, I just refuse to directly take elective C-sec.
 
<font color="ff0099">Some ways to reduce your hosp bill</font>
I went thru the detailed itemised charges for my bill, and noticed this:

Vaginal Examination (VE): $25 each time
Shaving of my lower abdomen pre C-sec: $11
Kotex Maternity Loop Pads: $5.20/pack
[all prices before GST hor]


So basically if you had requested (in your birth plan) for as few VE as possible, no shaving, and you bring your own loop pads, you can cut down on these charges lah.

Personally for me, the shaving of the lower abdomen cannot be avoided, cos it's a pre-operation procedure. But this time round they didn't shave my pubic area, so I "saved" $20+ on that. The I only paid for VE 3 times, instead of the 5-6 times when I had J. Cos I stupid stupid let them VE me without knowing it would cost extra and also hurt so much. So this time round I early early already request minimal VE. By right I only VE twice, but cos my gynae gave me the 1 hour extension to see if I dilated any more, I ask her VE me again after the 1 hour was up, so maybe I could have a chance to go for natural. But... sob sob. *sigh

Also, the nurses REFUSE to use the Kotex Maternity Adhesive Pads that I brought, and insisted to use the loop pads for me while in labor ward. SO die die open 1 pack lah. Then later open another pack without my consent for me to use when I went back to my room. I brought the pads back to use cos I so dulan they force me to pay for it.
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Ok. Cheapskate advice ends here.
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Shelled
I like your cheapskate advices! LOL Thanks!

Sherry
I'm only 1.5 and Gynae est bb will be 3.3kg when due. I asked if bb is too big for my size to deliver naturally. She reassured me twice that being able to deliver naturally doesn't only depend on size of mother and bb. She told me no prob to go for natural birth as long as the conditions are right (eg, position of bb, etc)
 
<font color="aa00aa">shelled</font>
HOw are you feeling now? :) How's K?

Thanks for sharing the way to reduce hospital bill... :) Though i won't be in the same hospital as you, but i think it's still good to know all these...

I just went to buy the Adhesive maternity pads after you told me to get. LOLS. Nvm, later i shall go NTUC to buy the loop ones.. it cost less than $2 there for the loops ones loh... but hospital charge so much! Kaoz! I also advise all mummies to buy 1 pack from NTUC to standby just in case! Every single cent counts lah.... Haaaaa.... I also saw this loop belt at NTUC, we don't have to get that right? We only buy that one pack of LOOP maternity pads will do? I have never wear it before so i have no idea how it looks like and how they gonna 'wear' for us leh.. can describe? HAAaaa.....

I also want to minimise VE... i can't stand such pain!! Awwww.... but so far my gynae hasn't done any VE for me yet and never discuss any birth plans with me yet... Maybe i write down and then let hb know of it. Hahahaa... :)
 
>SHELLED
Thanks for the breakdown &amp; cheapskate advice = very useful!!

>FBI/SBI card
From shelled's list, i can see that the FBI/SBI card comes in handy hor...i haven't gotten mine, how long did it take for them to process the card? Am thinking of applying for it now!!
 
woah. i just saw SHELLED's breakdown of her bills. Making me a little worried how much will my bill adds up for me.... Govt give 4K baby bonus can take and pay all for just delivering liao lor.... -.-"

<font color="aa00aa">girlygirly</font>
Everyone also wants the baby to be out fair &amp; chubby... same like all my relatives.. with the size of mine and the belly size, 90% of them keep commenting that i was on DIET and never FEED my baby well.... i just hack care cos i take their comments on these as ignorant comments... as long as my gynae never say anything about my weight gain, size and baby's health, i don't bother. Last stage liao.. let's all support one another in every way we can... though most of us facing different sets of problems... awww.... let's all jiayou together okay! :) cheers!
 
girly> keke. u oso not fat. y take low fat milk? =p

shelled> keke. cos at hm many things to do, in hospital cant do much things except sleep, eat n surf net ma. how come u csec still can do so much things? not must lie in bed meh?

sarah> keke. mine oso 50per session. but she say doing on consequetive or alternate days will depends on how she see my tummy. so well, since i engage her, i better trust her =p

paige> yup. it's pcf sparkletot. deres 2 privately runned one at my place here. but i like pcf one more. de environment, de teachers. all so much cleaner n friendlier.

sherry> wah. how many wks now r u? 3kg is abit heavy esp if u r only at 36wks. =p but if u r at later stage, den it seems quite normal. but of cos must depend on ur gynae. some gynae more used to csect. n since u choose tat gynae, u gotto trust him.
 
Shelled... i was looking at your bill and mine for last year, TMC has increased their price for almost everything within 1 year!! e.g. VE was $23 (now $25) and newborn hearing test was $70 (now $75) last year.. wah~~

just to share my TMC bill for last year... my package was assisted delivery with epi @4-bedded, but somehow i was staying in 2-bedded room
total hospital charges and professional fee = $3319.69
total charge for baby = $678.64
after medisave and FBI discount, paid cash about $1.3k

another cheapskate sharing: they charge $4 (as of last year) for disposable sheet to prevent staining of bed. stupid me stained their bed and requested extra piece last time, they informed me that i had to pay, but didn't tell me exactly how much per piece. this time i'm cutting big plastic bag into sheet
 
<font color="ff0099">flower4</font>
Total cash payable for MY hosp expenses is $3470.25. $1200 was paid as deposit when admitting to hosp. The remainder $2k+ paid when discharging. Then cash payable for baby's hosp expenses is $129.98. My hosp bill breakdown not clear meh??


<font color="ff0099">itsy</font>
You're welcome!


<font color="ff0099">princessxiaomei</font>
Paiseh, I ask you to buy the adhesive pad, then now like that. Hurhur. But since you're not delivering in TMC, maybe they will let you use adhesive ones?

I think if you don't pick 1-bed ward, and have a shorter labor, and if your doc's fees are cheaper, I think can go under $3k lah. Baby bonus is for show only lor. Can't really cover delivery costs at all, unless you give birth at home without doctor lor.
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<font color="ff0099">bbq98</font>
FBI - First Born Incentive. SBI - Subsequent Born Incentive.
Check out for more info here: http://www.thomsonmedical.com/facilities.htm#firstborn


<font color="ff0099">Paige</font>
They will issue a temporary paper card to you immediately upon signup. You will receive the actual plastic card ard 2 wks later. But I think you sign up now not worth it leh! A lot more expensive when you sign up late! I signed up ard 23wks pregnant, and I paid less cos this is my 2nd kid @ TMC.
 
Shelled,
clear jus wan to double check :p.
first was blur for me later i see, i shld have look at the Pink Font.

Hey shelled, i tot antenatal only can claim medisave upto sgd450 how come yours can upto sgd600 ah?
 
Kotex Maternity Loop Pads: $5.20/pack at tmc hospital.

if we buy from ntuc, then no string to tie will they charge us their string? :p

Shelled,
im one of the sign up late for FBI one. but still worth it la, looking at yours hospital bills total already deducted SGD200 then later part see PD at TMC still got further discount rite and they give alot of freebies leh, 3 books , daipers bag , 6months baby insurance coverage &amp; etc . quite worth it also la, when signing up late
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<font color="ff0099">flower4</font>
I dunno why can claim $600 leh. We passed the person at the counter with our largest amt receipt. 1 piece only. Really dunno why can claim $600...
 
Soo good Shelled
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i tot despite the size of bill as long its exceed sgd450, we only can claim sgd450...

now i duno shld i bring all receipts to hospital :p... kiasu abit.
 
flower4> juz bring ur antenatal package bill. cos usually it's ard 1200bucks++ liaos. den can claim more den 450 or 600. i think 600 was increased sometime in june this yr. heard fr my clinic.
 
>SHELLED, FLOWER4
thanks, thanks for info, i better go fill up the form and send to TMC tmrw! As long as can use discounts immediately can liao...I'm afraid i have to induce birth this weekend!
Late sign up is $188, so yeah, as Flower4 said, still worth it lah!

>MICHELLE
PCF sparkletots is at the new block of HDB flats next to Gombak MRT, right?
Have you received your thermometer? I'm still waiting for mine :p
 
shelled,
great to see u back!
sorry, abit suaku here, wat's VE huh? u mean each time the nurses check for dilation there's a charge?!!?
Wah... very $$$-minded if really like tat leh...
But hor, ur bills is the lowest I've seen for C-sect package leh... I was very worried abt the cost for C-sect too, cos my frens all told me theirs are above 6K, some even go up to 8-9K...

Michelle,
the FBI/SBI card only for TMC, mount A cannot use.
think once apply can start using the privileges &amp; discount, though the card will take 1-2 weeks to process. If giving birth at TMC, they have your FBI/SBI records automatically and auto reflect in bills, so dun really need to tell them.
 
Paige,
i signed up FBI at tmc counter and on the spots i got all the freebies and temporary card.

by mail isit too late for you? why induce ah?
 
>C-SEC BILLS
Ya, my friend who just gave birth in Mt A, c-section, her bill came up to 10K!!! After deductions, need to pay 5K! So, shelled's bill is quite cheap already!

>FLOWER4
My amniotic level is very low, so on MC whole week, drink lots of water (i'm like a pee machine now) rest, hopefully water level will increase, if not then have to induce, apparently not good for baby, during the scan i only see 2 pockets of water!....but my little girl is only 2.4kgs! *worried*
 
itsy: Wow.. it's really assuring that ur gynae is so positive when u opt for natural. I only wished my gynae thinks it that way too... i oways have this evil-ish feeling that it's cos he can manage his time bettter, that's y he ask me to go c-sec. But on the other hand, i may b wrong. I jus harder to b convince over!

Shelled: that's my major fear.. having end up in emergency c-sect... that's going to double the cost!! but like u said.. i oso bu kan yan! that's y i wasn't able to convince myself that i cannot do it! Never try never know.. it's really a battle between cost vs intention!

michelle: im in my 38.5weeks now.. baby is ard 3.2kg on uss.. doc say not engaged not dilated.. When i was in my 34weeks, the doc actually want me to control my milk intake so i can keep the baby's weight at 2.7/8kg (at full term) then chances of natural is higher! But obviously bb's eating alot!! haha!! tomolo going to see doc again.. let's see what he has to say!
 
<font color="aa00aa">shelled</font>
No worries lah. It's just maternity pads... i can use it mah... no worries ok! Won't waste money one lah.. hahahaa... i have no idea how the loops one will look like and worn on us mah.. so keep thinking and thinking... hahahahahahaaa....... very hard to say leh.... mine is ESH... not sure how they gonna do it on me! I have already pick the 1 bedded... because i want hb to be with me.. i very timid and i know nobody except my hb will help me for sure...

the adhesive ones is it like the ones we use normally? that kind of way of wearing it? LOL

I not so power to deliver at home! hahahahaa..... think my gynae's fees not very expensive bah! *pray hard*

<font color="0000ff">Something to share that made me so upset that weekend-</font>
(1)My FIL told me that My HB cannot sleep with me during 1month confinement because i'm dirty and not good for my hb in future. First time i heard of this rubbish shit. No confinement nanny, no maid, MIL &amp; FIL not able to help me with ANYTHING at all but just LOOKING &amp; SEEING my baby.. am i supposed to do every single thing by myself? My mum has to help me to cook lunch &amp; dinner from HER house (partly also in laws house CANNOT cook cos will be oily &amp; dirty then must clean up - mafan for him to do that everyday).. thinking who will bring my food over is another issue. My mum suggested to have my clothes brought to her home to WASH for me on every alternate days. In laws always have their stupid valid reason to shift their responsibilities to my mum each time. Poor mum! AND.....

(2)My FIL tested me with the showering part.
FIL: Do you know you cannot bathe for one month?
Me: I cannot bathe that often but i can bathe, i get the herbs from medical shop to boil and bathe with them. If i don't shower, i fall sick, baby will fall sick with me too.
FIL: Yah. Now can bathe with herbs already. I went to ask.
Me: "What stupid thing he asked me .... trying to test me right! Don't test me man! I know more than you!" - i never say these lah... it's in my mind!

(3)NExt he said.... i cannot switch on the FAN and AIRCON. Firstly, i don't have a fan in my room. Either i open the windows or i on the aircon. I told him i would probably on the aircon with not so cold temperature lah... and i will keep myself warm. *My body, of course i will protect myself too right!* He continued saying.. DON'T CLOSE the DOOR. Open the door. Reason (MIL can come in ANYTIME she wants to SEE baby!) - So i no need rest? No privacy? I don't really wear bra... so FREE SHOW? How to breastfeed? Now i pregnant, i close the door, my MIL bang and knock and come into my room so frequent - today 7 times within half an hour to see if my hb is around!. Can you imagine how much disturbance she created for me? I can't even sleep. I don't dare imagine how often she wants to come in and disturb after my baby is born. NOBODY to help me.. still must let them do what they like... i think within few days, i will open my window and head down first.

<font color="ff0000">RIDICULOUS right! </font>

I was so upset and depressed during the weekends. My hb was so sick and he can't help me and nobody to comfort me etc. All i did was cry and cry in the room. Sigh!
 
paige> u shuld receive ur thermometer soon. cos she told me it's in oredi. i'm picking up from her at her place this fri, since i wk nearby her hm.

ya, pcf sparkletot is at the new block of flats at gombak there.

how come ur fren one csec so ex? emer csec isit? cos i read someone one lady delivered same gynae as me after medisave claim was oso abt 4k cash.

flower4> not too sure. but i remember it's definitely more den 450 now. keke. juz wait n c lo =p

snowyin> keke. den not applicable for me. since i giving birth at mt a

sherry> erms. not sure y ur gynae only so small bb den can do natural leh. mine gynae is ok with any size actually as long as below 4 i think?
 
Paige,
oh dear, by drinking water help ah? Jul gave birth her bb is 2.6kilos. hope your water increase ya.. so u still got more time to build baby.. although for me, i jus hope my bb born ard 3kg only. later then grow bigger can lioa....
 
<font color="aa00aa">bbq98</font>
I cannot shift back because no space. 10 people living in 4 rooms... i have no space. AND in laws &amp; their relatives don't like. They said marry out already cannot shift back.
 
princess.
indeed ridiculars!!! no human rights ah?

still got such pple exist meh, in this generation?

Ur FIL oso not very clear, he still will need to ask around kind, still wan to give advise ah?
 
Hello Ladies,

so long nv post anything here le.. so two mommies of my same edd popped oredi!!

<font color="#FF0033"> Congrats to shelled &amp; Jul &amp; the rest of the mommies who've popped! </font>

I wonder when it'll be my turn...

<font color="#3366FF"> Girly,
we're going thru similar patches eh.. Im at week 38 le.. but at week 37 my princess only weighs 2352gms.. and she only put on a little from her 2288gms previously wor.. then i only put on 100gms from 56kg - 56.1kg in two weeks. I no GD and i've been eating alot.. but dunoo where all the food went.. </font>

My bb's head down le but not engaged yet.. and cervix not opened also.. so does it mean the BIG DAY wun be happening anytime soon?

My butt aching like crazy if i sit down..even awhile.. must be the pelvic bone area stretching or wat..

Only started drinkin coconut juice ytd.. but relli dun like the taste..so i thk i will give tt a miss le..any other alternative for coconut juice? The purpose of it is so tt bb comes out clean n nicely coloured rite? smethg like tt i remember..

Did the strep b test last sat.. but i got a feeling i wun pass the test lo.. haiz.. will noe tis sat when i go for my check up.. now gynae's seeing me once a week le.. =)
 
princessxiaomei
If your hubby cannot sleep with you then who'll help u during nite feeding? And what "dirty" is your FIL talking about?!?! Aiyo, aiyo.. why such backward thinking?! Perhaps u can talk to your hubby after he recovers and see what both of u can do about the situation. If cannot open window, cannot turn on air-con and fan... how to sleep?!
 
Sheryn,
maybe rasberry juice can replace coconut juice? i cant take coconut juice, its cause me to cough &amp; flu &amp; asthma
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<font color="aa00aa">flower4</font>
Have.. my in laws loh!

They think i am A ROBOT! They think they are the EMPRESS and EMPEROR DOWAGER.

tamade! i was really very angry and mad and upset.

Now i think of it.. not so angry but i am going to do what i initially plan to do! WHO CARES! Just don't understand what all these elders trying to do!

He refused to let us go to any baby showers too. OVerLy pantang and SupER selfish! HE doesn't really protect me but protect his own flesh &amp; blood much more. But at times, he doesn't really care so much worry so much for his only son but worry more for his daughters. He love his family and protect his kids... my mum also love her family and protect her kids.. i am still my mum's child right..... plus i am 'old' enough to think what can be done loh. As though i will ill-treat myself and my baby!
 
<font color="ff0099">Paige</font>
If you don't mind getting less discount, then of cos you should signup now! But cos I signup before I went for detailed scan, my detailed scan also got 10% discount or something. I cheapskate mah. Signup early can get more discount.
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I think maybe your friends' bills more ex cos they stay other hosp? And maybe cos they stay longer also? I only stay 2 days leh.


<font color="ff0099">snowyin</font>
Hi!! I am glad to be back too!
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VE = vaginal examination, it's to check your dilation progress lor.
I also think my bill quite cheap. Considering we even "upgrade" to the Premier Single bed ward cos the normal type no more rooms liao. The bill already include topup of $58/day to the Premier Ward lor. So really quite decent price lah.

Yup. FBI/SBI is automatically reflected when you go TMC for anything. NO need to show card de.


<font color="ff0099">Sherry</font>
Money can earn back. But if you live with regret because you didn't give natural birth a shot, it may stay with you a long long time lor. FYI, I stayed 2-bed ward @ TMC when I went to induce (failed) then emerg C-sec my #1 in June 2007 (GST still 5% last time hor), and the bill size came up to $8k+. I think if you go the same route as me now, your bill will probably hit at least $9k.
 
Princess,
Jus like wat michelle say. JUST ignore all their rubbish.. do watever u thik is good for you &amp; your hubb &amp; baby will do lioa... most impt your health manz! with good health then u can take care of bb well mah..
 


<font color="aa00aa">itsy</font>
Oh, good question. ME loh. EVERYTHING also ME loh. The whole family can just rest and relax and PLAY while i do all the feeding, bathing, washing etc. Partly is he thinks i never work for a year plus and i have REST ENOUGH so no need so much rest during confinement!

DIRTY as in i think maybe we will bleed bah... if hb sleep with me.. he will here ache there ache whatever.. no link to me... but he said it's for his own good because he is 'guo lai ren'. And he compared my MIL with me. Oh please, my MIL gave birth to all via csec... my mum gave birth to all via natural. My mum had more experienced with than them loh. My hb will help me, just that we have to bear with the 'consequences' after that. The consequences will be HE and other relatives scolding us niam niam niam all the way.. saying I not filial, saying I STUBBORN, saying whatever shit they can.... etc......... and my hb is the poor hamburger!

OPEN Door to sleep loh. AS if open door, it will be much cooler! I open door... gone liao.... staying here for so many years, i never open door at all....! My door is always close! Whether i on aircon or not... because no privacy.... everybody keep looking at what i do.. if i lie on the bed.. they will say i PIG.. keep sleepin!
 

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