(2009/09) September 2009 MTBs

hi mama to 5js,
Thk u so much 4 ur advise. But i am working,how can i tell boss that i need to go 4 confinement? Later whole office know, make me more upset if they asks..
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in a mini confinement, wht food shd i eat to bu my body? Cannot bath oso?? Didnt know that only 6wk oso need to do confinement.. Menses will come alot this period rite? Hope i can be like u.. Pregnant again after 3mth shortly,is it bec we r more fertile like jus give birth?.. So envious..
Hi lilac ,freesia and waiwah,
Thk u 4 ur console.. Waiting 4 my bt result.dont think will seek 4 2nd opiniön.. Going make me more upset.. Sob..
 


joanne,
any tots of 2nd opinion...
i shared my case, now sld b 9 weeks i guess, but last week, we cant find the baby, although the waterbag is growing... changed another gynae opinion, my gynae gave me 1 more week, this fri going back to c him...
alot of ppl, even the gynae tells me that, its the act of nature, we cant do anything... if the seed is not healthy, it will automatically stop growing with time, or ur body will reject it...
not nice to hear that, but sometimes, we got to learn to accept it... jia you... i noe its tough, but try n stay positive...
 
Hi joanne,

Sorry to interrupt here ... If u need to do D&C, u can ask your gynae to give u mc, most prob 2 weeks. If your colleagues ask, just say u r sick.

Those food which u shld eat for confinement are those with alot of ginger, like sesame chicken, pig trotters in vinegar etc .. and drink red dates tea. As for bathing, it depends on you. Some will do it very strictly and dun bath. But I cannot tahan so I bathed everyday oso.

As for getting preggy again, of cos there are pple who strike immediately after giving birth/D&C, but it took me 1 yr to get preggy again. So, it depends on the individual.
 
joanne,
i m working in a big co... and hv been either on mc and now on hospitalisation leave...
but i only told my immediate boss and my hr manager... and those closer colleagues who will keep stuff... worst of all, my hubby n i working in the same co...
 
hello all the mummies
thanks for the advice on the morning sickness and vomitting. i counting down to 4 more weeks hopefully by the 12th week it goes away. my gyane did give me some medication to stand by in case i need it badly but i try not to take any meidicaiton else its like pyshcologically im addicted to it and if i dont take it i will fall sick.

i try to go to work as often as possible so it kinda distract me and make me forget my morning sickness.

and also i realise i got insomnia. at night i cant go to sleep.

hiaz..... its really so tough being pregnant.. i also dont know if i should be really so happy although i did wish i had a baby but when it came to me and when i start to experience all these uncomfortable symptoms its just put me off totally. maybe im just not so motherly. even i went for the scan and see the baby image, i also not so excited and im more worried about being so terribly sick all the time.

my gyane did kinda suggest i may have very mild prenatal depression which is now a very common illness. she ask me to monitor and see if i really get worst.

really hope to hear if someone have any good advice or how i can reduce the discomfort of morning sickness.
 
Joanne *hug hug*,

If you need to rest, let your boss or lady colleague know. I'm sure those who have children will be understanding enuf to let you rest.

Be positive, you have our support in the forum and people around you will be supportive too.
 
hi joanne,

my heart goes out to you. like what the mommies here have mentioned..eat more "bu" things. perphaps if u can, drink some dome too. it helps to let your body recover fast. take care.

hi waiwai,

we r comrades!
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my gal was born on 30 jun 08. very very close to urs! i'm taking a step at a time.. actually i have sounded my nanny out if she is okay to cope with another newborn early next yr. she is taking care of another 2 yr old gal other than my daughter..she mentioned that the older gal might be enrolling in full-time childcare next yr. if so, then it will be good news for me.

i had a relatively easy pregnancy for my gal. hopefully it stays the same for #2 but every pregnancy is different.. wish for a boy this time
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Hi everyone

I like to join you gals in this exciting journey ahead! I am currently 8 wks. Going for my 2nd appointment next monday. I am very excited and at the same time worried!
 
Hi I'm new here. Firstly, congrat to all MTB. A little intro on myself... 20th Jan I tested +ve on home kit. 2nd Feb I did a scan and was told my baby is 4 weeks old (can't hear heartbeat yet) but my EDD is ard end Sept. This is my 1st pregnancy and I'm so envious of those who can hear their baby's heartbeat, I'll be going for another scan in 2 weeks time.. hopefully all will be well.
 
joanne
i have a frd who just did a D&C and is able to get 2 weeks hospitalisation leave. u ask ur gynae how this can be done? 1 weeks also better than nothing. my previous gynae told me that d&c is actually more harmful to our body than actual delivery so we also must rest and build back our health. yes, if a foetus is not normal or growing well, our body will reject so its part of nature. im sure u can conceive again after that. mini confinement is just like doing confinement but shorter period. i took confinement food for a wk plus plus drink whatever i suppose to drink but of course i bath everyday.
 
<font color="ff6000">Joanne</font>
*hugz* hunny... if can, seek a 2nd opinion. If really the affinity with your BB is not there yet.. I know its not easy.. but gotta keep an optimistic mind..My buddy had the similar BB no heartbeat at 3rd mth..so she gotta do D&amp;C &amp; according to her.. her mum helped her to do a mini confinement. She had a hard time getting over it la.. called me &amp; another fren many times crying.. but she picked herself up..gone back to her cheery mind..den after about 5mths.. she got preggie again..
 
joanne,

so sad to hear this news... you must 'bu' ur health back.. i oso had a m/c and concieve again after the 3rd month. As for bathing, you can buy those herbs from medical shop. Take gd care of urself...
 
Hi Joanne,
Listen to chris chong from gleneagle from love 97.2 just now. There's also a listener ask if whether req'd to do mini confinement in early mc. He says below 12weeks , no need. He says above 24weeks then req'd . In between , didn't really hear liao. heehee. Like some of the previous mtb says, eat healthy, take some tonic etc.. Definite can bath lah.. He also say no tcm for the first three months as this period very crucial. He says not that tcm no good, just that sometime don't know what things are inside etc...
 
Hi mummies,

Long time dint post here, MS was bad for me, everyday not well, and vomited every evening, dint enjoy my cny at all
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Seen my gynae yesterday, bb 8wk 15.6mm and could see the shape already! told gynae abt my MS he ask me to endure for now, coz if he give me medi to stop MS will make me very sleepy, that make it worst at work, so I decided to endure
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Any remedies that will help to stop MS for u gals?
 
hi all ladies,
Doctor jus call me say my hcg level only thousand plus. No chance liao.. Now he gives me 2options.
1)take a bt again this sat to see whether level got continue drop? If yes, then no need do d&amp;c as menses shd come itself by another wk time.. If no means got to do d&amp;c.
2) No need do bt,jus wait for the menses to come.
He discourage me to do d&amp;c if can. As thats another 2k plus and is consider an operation. Though menses will reduce alot as mostly clearup thru d&amp;c. If wait 4 menses to come, i sure encounter more menses with clog and cramp 4 1wk.. But save the $. he asks me not to worry even if didnt do d&amp;c, menses come oso can clear up everything inside. Do u think shd i do bt this sat to see the level again?
 
hi feire,

i dun have MS but NS (night sickness). no appetite and feel feverish for the past week in the late evening. maybe u want to try having some hot milo or sour tibits? it works for me
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Hi joanne,

Sorry to hear abt that... nw u just try to get ur health back in gd shape then try for another baby ya.. better to 'bu' back ur health 1st then try again ya..

actually i'm not familiar w d&amp;c but from what the doctor says.. if it's consider an operation, it'll do more harm then if u let ur mens come naturally? Just that u'll experience clogs n cramp for 1 wk..

talk to ur hubby and get support and encouragment from him ya..
 
hi crystalz,
Thats fast 4 u to get pregnant again so fast.. Hope i can be same as u. Wht did u take to bu ur body back after d&amp;c? As so fast u manage to conceive again.. Envious.. Kindly advise me..
Hi all ladies,
Thk u thk u for didnt give up on me though i cant continue the journey with u gals.. Thk u 4 all ur hugs and console.. Very impt 4 me since no one know abt my pregnancy so no one to confide with..except u gals.. Reading ur comments make me want to cry more jus like the weather outside now.. Sob.. Oso makes me want to strive to get pregnant soon again..
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thk u gals 4 all ur advise and encouragement..
 
hi freesia,
Ya,sure bad as doctor say my lining is thick.. Think got to take mc for the 1st 2days.. May i know how to ease cramp? Can take panadol?will help?
 
joanne
i think since gynae encourage u to just let menses come, then its good to listen to him. cos d&amp;c is actually no good for health, it thins ur walls also and not to mention the addtional expenses incurred. after that u can do u/s scan to make sure all is clean lor.

i think the menstrual cramps will be quite bad so take painkiller if u need to. gosh i cant imagine how difficult this must have been and will be for u. pls cheer up ok *hugs* i been thru it, im sure u will be strong like me too.

dun think so much ok. most impt is to keep a positive mind and know that u will conceive again.
 
hi rosycheeks, i oso hv 'night' sickness instead of morning sickness...my nausea feelings will strike ard evening time...and it's damn torture...cant sleep or even watch tv...haiz...
 
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dun worry... jiayou &amp; bu till strong strong...stay around for us to give u our strength &amp; support! We'll be here with u thru it...who knows.. in no time.. we hear good news again!!!
 
joanne, i'm not sure coz for my case, i did d&amp;c. But i remember my gynae gave me some painkillers to stand by just in case. Maybe you can ask your gynae for painkillers too to ease the cramps.
 
Hi rosycheeks, mine was night sickness too, tummy was super uncomfortable in the evening and feeling like vomiting all the time, and feeling cold even with thick blancket, sour tibits dont work for me
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Hi Joanne, so sorry to hear abt ur lost, pls be strong and try again after your body recover, I understand how much you want a sibling for ur son, Im also getting this #2 for sake of my daughter too, she need a sibling to play with, now i just have to endure all the misery of MS.
 
joanne,

*hugz* really sorry to hear what you're going thru. i don't really know much about d&amp;c so can't really contribute any advise there. regarding painkillers, you can ask doctor if he can prescribe Ponstan and if its safe for you to take that. if your cramps are really bad, i don't think taking panadol will help at all as its too mild.

you should tell your bosses the truth in your office. i'm sure that when they know the truth they will be more understanding and supportive towards you. during this period take a good rest and clear your mind of all unhappiness. juz remember that everything always happens for a reason.

take care ya!
 
oh dear... i suddenly had a session of tummy cramps again. Was quite bad, i had to stop what i was doing and bear through it for about 5 mins. Now the cramps has stopped completely. This is the 3rd time already over the past 2 weeks. Hope everything is fine...
 
Any mummies know if i can still go ahead for neck/ shoulder massage? Cos it's included in my facial package and I think I need it badly.. but my sis say cannot go for massage at all.. was wondering since mine is only neck &amp; shoulder.. doesnt touch tummy it shld be ok? Forgot to ask my gynae..
 
hi Katherine Goh, i tink cant go for massage even neck or shoulder leh...cos i rem i went facial 2 weeks ago and i told my beautician im pregnant, she told me cant do any forms of massage...
 
katherine,

personally i feel its ok leh. but i dunno if its really ok or not ok. anyway for me, my hb want me to stop going facial for 1st trimester, so i juz pls him lah. if not later anything happen he will blame me. hee...
 
sob.. then i find myself so lugi lo.. missed out on e massage.. haiz.. then i dun wanna go facial for the rest of the nine months liao...

but i read in book say one way to relax is to go for massage.. maybe they meant massage specially for pregnant lady...
 
To all mummies,
I eat anything except crabs or mutton (can cause epilepsy), sharkfin, mayonise and take little chilli. I took cold drinks once in a while (coke, SARSI) and also yogurt(this can take or not??). I try the yogurt mango smoothies its very nice. I still take burger, KFC and even pizza. I think take moderate is ok la. I took milk almost twice a day. One in the morning and one before I sleep. I have frequent urine too at night two - three times a day and I feel tired and sleepy during the day. On top of that I took six hormone pills hahaha. I stop taking Enfamama milk powder these few days and switch to MEJI full cream and HL milk. The strange thing is I dont really puke or having headaches in the morning, only a mild naseous. So I think the Enfamama might be too heaty to me or my body has get used to my high hormones in my body
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By the way can take mackrcel fish or not??
 
People told me don't eat crabs, sashimi, raw meat, coffee. For me, i still eat chili coz i really love spicy food. Now i'm taking marigold high calcium milk, 1 glass every night.

I read from somewhere cannot eat mackeral fish..i dunno why is it so. Otah and fish soup uses this kind of fish right?
 
Hi Katherine, i think there are some massage there are suitable for preggies... cos i know some spa does pre and post natal massage. Maybe you like to check those out... i know True Spa has something like that.
 
hi joanne,
u take care yeh. don't keep thinking abt it. cheer up.

hi wifey,
u went to see wk tan? i went yesterday. Just now went toilet, still got a bit of pink blood with my discharge. very worried.
 
Hi Joanne,

sorry to hear about your situation. I encountered a similar situation in Apr 2006. Hubby and I were TTC for 2 years and were so happy when I got pregnant naturally. However, at week 6, cannot see heartbeat, then week 7 still no heartbeat, doctor also told me no hope already coz foetus was not growing and advised me to do D&amp;C if it still doesn't come out on its own by week8. I'm quite an optimist so I actually took it quite well. My thoughts then was at least I could conceive naturally. Hubby was more sad than me.

Actually, the chances of miscarriage at early stage is very high, I think 20% if I remember the stats correctly. It is the body's way of getting rid of an unviable pregnancy. Most of the time, it is probably due to a bad egg or bad sperm (very layman terms). I think many mummies here have also had MC before. If your doctor hasn't diagnosed some medical problem that makes you infertile, it means you can conceive naturally again.

As for mini confinement, at that time I also didn't know what to do. I went back to work 1 day after D&amp;C. But I would advise you to rest at home for at least 1 week. Don't take anything "liang". Drink some chicken soup. As for confinement food, use sesame oil and ginger in your cooking to remove wind. Avoid seafood for a few weeks.

Many people also tell me that you can get pregnant very quickly after miscarriage as the body is already conditioned for pregnancy but I've read somewhere to wait for 1 or 2 cycles for the body to recover. I started trying after 2 cycles (I think). I also went to see a Chinese Physician after that who diagnosed me with Polycystic Ovarian Syndrom (PCOS) which my gynae never discovered. When I told my gynae the Chinese doctor's diagnosis, she confirmed it with a blood test and gave me medication which will help me with my condition and was pregnant again in Dec 06 and delivered in Jul 07.

I'm crossing my fingers this time for a smooth pregnancy too. Am so thankful I don't have to try for 2 years this time. We only tried for a few months as my period only came back around May 08 after I stopped breastfeeding my #1.

Sorry for the long story. Hope it helps.
 
yoyo....aiyo.. been a busy day for me...

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fish like mackeral, shark, swordfish..all their meat have got a higher mercury content which is harmful la..so best is to avoid..

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hmmm... I'm asking a fren who is a mama herself &amp; a massager what sorta massage can or cannot be done.. waiting for her reply...cos i know she helps woman who gave birth do massage... will keep u all updated!
 
Katherine,

in my #1, I went for back and leg massage coz the whole body aching in late pregnancy. The masseuse claims she is trained in massaging for pregnant women. My friend's sister recommended and also went to her. However, I had frequent contractions from 28 weeks of pregnancy and I delivered prematurely at 35 weeks.

This time round, I don't want to massage anymore coz I'm afraid the contractions may be due to the massage.

As for facials, i think can still do it until 5 months. After that, it is not advisable to lie on your back for too long. Neck and shoulder massage should be quite safe since not that many accupoints but better check with your gynae.
 
Hi Bryest, yes I went to WK Tan yestd morning. Had cramps since sunday nite till quite uncomfy on monday aftn. Called clinic and was told to go see WK Tan next morning. I reach about 9am and was surprised it was still quite empty. Need not wait too long to see her, even my hubby was surprised. For future appt, I tink i'll just pay the surcharges in the morning to see her at 9am.

Wat time were u there ?
 
hi wifey, i was there yesterday at 9.30am...wat time did u went in to see her? i was in the waiting area since 9.30am to 11.30am. might have seen u there. wat did wk tan say?
 
Oh bryest, u might have seen me leaving b4 10am. I was wearing a pink top wif pants. Long wait for u huh?

All is well for me, the cramp was probably due to irritation of feotus in uterus or expansion of uterus. Was prescribed dasphston and to see her in 2 wks time.

Did she say anything about your condition yestd? No worries, I'm sure you are in good hands. If it is s'thing not so good, WK Tan really take it very seriously. When is your next appt to see her?
 
were u with ur husband? i was wearing a red t-shirt and bermuda, was with my husband. was given another jab yesterday and had to be on the same pills as u. Will be seeing her again on 21 feb. when's ur next apptmt? but juz now, when i went toilet, got pink blood discharge. very worried. sigh
 
yes, I was wif my husband. R u quite petite wif long hair?

If you still worried on what u have observed, can call the clinic and tell them your concern. They will pass your case to one of the experienced nurses (who help to make appointment, one of them is sister Han) to return your call, and give you advice over the phone. They will tell you wat to expect in the next X hours. If need be, they will ask you to return to clinic. Just call them to set your heart at ease.
 
Hi MTB..
tis morning i woke up with some lower ab cramps.. ard 10am.. i encountered dark red blood stains on my liner.. (more than spotting amt)

i was so shocked!! i rushed to see gynae.. ard 6ww now (from LMP) gynae gave me a jab on my butt to stabalise preg.. luckily can see bb's heartbeat.. is ard 15mm.. so glad i din lose it..

but wat makes it stable or not? is there anything i can do to stablise it?? doc told me to up my dosage of folic n duphaston.. *worried*
 


I just went to the site that I've previously shared.. http://www.cowandgate.co.uk/
tried their live chat &amp; they really response immediately!.

I asked an adviser about the massage thingy.. her reply regarding that is haveta let the massues know u are pregnant &amp; massues must be trained to massage preggy ladies.

if u ladies have more doubts can chat with them too... the time in UK is 10:07am.. their livechat is frm UK time 10am - 5pm...
 

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