(2009/09) September 2009 MTBs

Hi ling/ Gerald,

Me and hubby also planning on who to take care Baby once he or she is born...

First option is Infant Care, 2nd Option- Nanny around the neighbourhood, 3rd Option - Employ a maid (but nobody is at home to supervise), 4th Option- I quit my job and become a SAHM...

Till today, we still havent sort out which option??
 


Hi Shirley,

I hv only 2 options..nanny or infant care.. i hv shortlist 1 infant care center. As for the nanny, still hv not found a suitable/trustworthy one yet.
 
berrypie
Thanks for the link! Will discuss with my wife tmr.

Just to share. My son was so cute this morning. As my wife was being Ultrasound, she coughed to move him and he flapped his hands in front of his face in annoyance. It's in times like these that somehow makes all our sacrifices worth it.

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Hi Gerald...ur baby so sweet
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Hi Berrypie...we too havent found any suitable nanny, in fact have not started looking around. Will need to work harder to look for a suitable infant care...
 
michelle: u bot e royale? i saw tat too.. looks comfy but worried it might take up too much space in e car.. haha

princess,milkyway, jess: u r all attending mrs wong's class tis sat? hee.. i'll b too! exciting.. wonder wat we'll learn..

as for EDD, it's an estimate so dun worry too much la.. mine oso got push backwards.. now it gets pushed forward fr 25sept to 21sept..

recent gynae visit, gynae measure bb's thighbone.. he is sup to be 23w during scan.. but e thighbone is est 21w! i was q worried.. does tis mean my bb will *touch wood* hav short legs?

recently i tink God has been v efficient in answering my prayers.. i was sup to put on 2 kg a mth.. nw only early jun i hav put on 3kg oredi.. gosh~
 
Gina
I ordered confinement food catering from NewBaby and took care of my #1 myself. My hubs took 2 wks paternity leave to help out, so I can rest from my C-sec.

Jul
It's not Braxton, not indigestion. Just that my tummy is super big and super heavy. I've taken to wearing the maternity support band again, and so far it seems to help.

Gerald
The subsidy will be offset directly from the monthly fees if you & your wife are eligible for it. For more info, refer here: http://www.childcarelink.gov.sg/ccls/home/faq.jsp
 
<font face="Comic Sans Ms"><font color="#C71585">Sept-09 MTB 2nd Meet Up

Date : 16-June or 30-June

Time : 6:30pm

Location: (Just some suggestions from me, final decision depends on majority vote)
<ul>[*]The Rice Table, #02-09 International Building <LI>Bird's Nest Cafe, #01-13 Orchard Point <LI>Hibiki, Cuppage Terrence <LI>Edogawa Teppanyaki, The Central @ Clarke Quay[/list]</font></font>
 
I should be ok with both 16 and 30 June, location wise, it's fine with me as long as it's central and accessible by MRT.
 
Hi shelled
my tummy always feel extreme tight and heavy in the evening.. for my case, I think i'm just bloated with lotsa gas.. stomach fighting space with womb.. i'm always bloated even before getting preggie state.

Care after delivery
I'm also still considering to wk or nt and who to look after.. since this is #1, i feel very very wanting to take care of him myself. So right now.. decided to request to take the 4 mths full maternity leave + 2 mths no pay leave to work out the options. Cos hubby say i might go crazy and nt want to stay home and lose connections to the world outside. By end of 4th/ 5th mth i think i should be able to have the answer... i hope...

Hi cho! yes yes.. exciting! hope to see u all.. but i have nv seen u all before... lol...
 
gerald, shirley and berrypie,
since i've got the time to type an ultra long post, i might as well share my two cents worth abt babysitters and infant care services. i work full time and i've tried both. my boy was cared for by a sitter between 2 months and 1 year old. subsequently we sent him to an infant care centre when he was between 1 year 1 month old and 1 year 6 months old. he's on full day childcare now. okay, here goes the ultra long post ...

what i liked about my babysitter:
1. flexibility: before my boy turned 1, i worked mondays to thursdays only, and frequently took half days to bring my boy out for PD appointments, meet friends etc. sitter allowed me to pay her less on days that i didn't require her services.
2. helpful: she volunteered to cook dinner for my boy daily, so that we could feed the porridge to him after we've brought him home. extra service that came in real handy, because if you're working full day, you won't want to have to rush home to prepare dinner for the kid. didn't pay her extra for the dinner, but she provided anyway.
3. proximity to my mum's place: stayed a block away, so whenever we ran out of breastmilk, my dad could just deliver a frozen pack to her place in a jiffy.
4. convenience: she does laundry for us and washes the miscellaneous things (cutlery, milk bottles) that we leave over at her place.
5. two for the price of one: she had a twin sister who's not working, and who visits her daily. helps to babysit my boy too at no extra cost!

what i didn't like about my babysitter:
1. watches a lot of TV: a lot of children who are cared for by home sitters and grandparents inevitably spend a large chunk of their daytime glued to the TV
2. speaks chinese: i had to use an online eng-chinese distionary whenever i needed to pass written instructions to her (on my boy's diet, breastmilk instructions etc). my chinese is atrocious.
3. far away from my own home: we stayed at my mum's place on weekdays so that i could sleep with my boy every night. we missed our own home, even though my mum's place was a much bigger and cleaner home

what i liked about infant care services:
1. environment: love the full length windows at my centre - i like it that my boy can walk over to the windows and oversee a road/stretch of trees whenever he's in the play area.
2. social skills: he gets to interact a lot with a whole host of people at the centre - infants, parents, toddlers, teachers, cleaner, cook, principal. infants and teachers at the centre come from all over the world, speak different languages, have different ethnicity etc.
3. age-appropriate activities: infants who can't walk yet are on rockers, and can observe the older infants flip, crawl and walk. infants who are able to walk have age-appropriate toys that allow them to play-pretend, and age-appropriate activities like reading. as they are nearing 1 year 6 months old, school will encourage them to drink from a straw/cup and self-feed.
4. meticulous: the centre that we go to jots down every single thing about the child, right down to how many diapers he changes in a day, at what time, how much milk he took, at what time etc. this is actually for the teachers' benefit, since one teacher cares for 3-4 infants at a time, so jotting down ensures that the teacher will not forget to change/feed anyone. but lists/information is useful for parents like me, who need to supply an exact amt of breastmilk for consumption.
5. hygiene: definitely tons cleaner than the sitter's house, my mum's place and my own house.

what i didn't like about infant care services:
1. a lot of barang barang: bathing towels have to be changed daily, 6-7 sets of clothes have to be readied daily. mattress covers and blankets have to be changed weekly. milk bottles have to be changed daily ... etc etc list goes on. day in and day out, i'm lugging a big bundle of things to the infant care centre, and back home.
2. inflexibility: once the child has the slightest fever/cold, you've gotta leave the workplace immediately to bring him home, even if it's right smack in the middle of your workday. no ifs and no buts. sitters will gladly care for sick children, but infant care centres won't.
3. falling sick often: infant/toddlers who start school for the first time get sick very often. my boy's sick period lasted for 2-3 months. he wasn't sick for the entire duration, but would get a fever/cold etc etc every other week.
4. price: when i placed my boy at the infant care centre, the $600 subsidy hasn't kicked in yet. i think i paid abt $1K a month thereabouts. $300 more expensive than my sitter
5. food is salty: i've tasted it before, and it's too salty for my standards.
6. nearer to workplace/home: i used to pop by the centre at lunch times (abt 15 min walk from my office) just to look at him nap, refill his supply of breastmilk, or just chat with the teachers. i also got to move home when we stopped going to the babysitter's!
 
jess: me too! my tummy's like bigger in e evening.. gynae says coz intestines tends to bloat at night.. nt coz bb is bigger at nite.. lol..

wow.. so lucky u take 2 mths no pay leave extra.. i tink i'll go bonkers w bb alone.. will u hav anyone at home w u? my fren who juz delivered in jan almost got post natal depression taking care of 1st born alone.. bb keep crying, din noe wat to do etc..

so mayb even if ur mum/ MIL cant help u, at least u can go to their place so at least u hav some company while taking care of bb?

aft 2nd mth i tink i'll go over my parents' pl (since juz next blk) on alt days n bring bb there.. at least my dad's home so gt some company..

then 3rd n 4th mth will "part time" leave bb at babysitter's place so he can get used to bbsitter..
 
Infant care $600 is for full day. I checked out the infant care next to my block. Half day is $300 subsidy only. The infant care has a limit of 10 infants max, with 2 assigned teachers. Not sure if it is so across the island though.. They are encouraging full day for that particular centre... $1000/mth for full day. $700/mth for half day. But after subsidy, its $400 for both full and half day.

I see that they have a timetable for infants also lo.. like every 3 hours change of diapers etc.

Ooo will check out the cots again soon. As for pillows, i will alternate with those sarong spring cot. It is said to help shape the baby's head
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There seems to be quite a lot of shops along JALAN PEMIMPIN eh..

Babysafe mattress is selling @ kiddy palace for $175. So i think the 15% discount is good! hahaa just that i cant find a suitable cot yet.. boo!

Hmm.. prenatal classes i also interested but hubby only can attend weekdays, me on weekends
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sigh. I signed up for aqua fitness under KKH though. hehe so you mummies all signed up for the TMC de mah? The lady at the motherhood fair told me i am a bit late since i am already going on 24weeks. Haha..
 
Hi Ling,
pls add me on the list, am new to this thread. Thanks!

Mummy's Nick: Infinity_star
Status : FTWMTB
EDD : 12 Sep
BB# : 1
BB's Gender : Prince
BB's Name : TBA
Gynae : Fong Yang
Hospital : Mt Alvernia
Location : Khatib

Thanks!!
 
Hi all. Thanks for the info! I'm over whelmed!
Btw... are 'boys' allowed at the MTB meetup?

Gina, Shelled, Sandwich
Thanks for the the info! I think it's really great esp with the subsidies! I'll be at home when I'm not flying around so will not always leave the kids at childcare. Think that'll be my preferred option. My dad's also retiring next year so that'll be another option. Which childcare facility were you using?
 
hi cho!
ah i see! intestines bloat too!
no choice lo.. at least hubby agreed to "yang" me for 2 mths without my pay... i wish i could have a longer period :p haha..
anyways, my boss dun like pple to take leave as and when (even though he signed approved), and urgent leaves, so i thought thru to take a longer period of disappearance.
I just cannot bear to leave my bb alone or let my MIL take care (afraid conflict with her)..
mostly i heard the first 6 months of bb are critical and will be easier for me to breastfeed if possible..
both our parents stay nearby, I could find my mom to chat sometimes.. but I think she will come to look for me after her part-time wk.
i could think of a lot of stuff to do :p lol... watch tv, surf net, chat online (chk out SMH forum), plenty of hsework and just watching bb... and nap with bb when he naps... i will try to be bz.. hohoho
oh dear I hope ur fren's fine.. i'm afraid to get it too..

Hi sandwich.. totally agree with what you shared.. have been thinking thru all the options, and have surfed and read thru all other's opinion on the care options.. each options weigh with pros and cons either way.. it is very difficult to make a really good choice to leave bb to these cares options..
 
Gerald
I've been staying at home even before I became a mom.
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Hey, I don't think the subsidies apply if you don't use full-day or half-day leh. I had wanted to put my #1 into adhoc infantcare, but it's not valid for subsidies, which makes it quite expensive. So I had to can the idea of joining a gym and toning up while they watch my kid.
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shelled
no no... dun get me wrong. I will pay up for whole month, but won't send him in everyday lor. I don't think the centre will care actually. As long as I pay?

My wife intends to take another 2 mths of NPL after the 4 mths maternity. I'm not sure my pockets are that deep! But I'm sure we'll manage to strike a balance with some luck.
 
Gerald
If you and your wife are willing to give up some luxuries and spend smartly, I'm sure it's doable. I only wonder how her employer will feel about it!

I guess you'll have to do your research on the centres available in your area (there are hidden costs for infant/child care like deposits, uniforms, materials fee and even mattress purchase!), work out the sums, and discuss with your wife.
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Cho,
yah mine class is this sat 2-4pm. so i'll see u, princess and jess then... i think i have u in my FB rite.. hope i recognise u too...

jess,
wow u can take another 2 more months of NPL? i wish i can too... really hope to spend the first 6 months with bb as i heard it's very impt.

Maternity leave:
When i told my boss i wanna take 4months straight plus clear up this year annual leave in btw, she almost peng san. haha... i still have some annual leave left which i dont think i will be able to clear by sept. So i intend to take 2 months ML straight, clear annual leave then continue with the last 2 months ML. I read that the last 2 months can be flexi and dont have to take straight. So this is wat i intend to do lor. mayb can extend my ML by 1-2wks depending on how many leave i have left.

Infant care/child care/baby sitter/parents:
I have the luxury of my mum offering to take care of bb for me. She will be doing my confinement too. But i'm worried that she might have to give up her leisure of going out, and also marketing, cooking and cleaning the house. She has been a housewife since i was born. But i don't want her to tire herself now when she should be enjoying. So in a dilemma although she has kindly volunteer and i also feel safer with bb in her hands rather than outsiders. So i guess this is my only option at the mom.

I would also like to ask FTWM whose kids are taken care by mum/mil, how much do you give them for taking care of your kids? I give her monthly allowance still but i think i still need to top-up if she's taking of my bb rite?

going to have a busy day ahead... hope i have time to check out the forum later
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Good morning!

gina

My CL is Msia. $2k for 28 days. Dun think she is pro-BF, more like she will do what u wanna do. She asked me to stand by a can of formula milk in case I got no milk, but I will not do so. In case she secretly feeds Babylet FM in the nite hahaha.

princess, ling

No need to worry too much abt EDD. B/c at this stage, the EDD of the BB will no longer be accurate, coz they r too big. The most accurate EDD is done before 3 mths.

gerald

U r totally opposite from my HB! Last weekend was the first class. And all the other couples were sitting therev listening attentively. Guess what mine was doing? Making jokes at everything the instructor said &amp; kept making me laugh until I couldn't listen properly. Hiaz.. yue4 bang1 yue4 mang2! haha
 
good morning all!

Just received bad news from mum that the CL which she has helped me engage say she cannot make it liao cos the husband suffered from stroke &amp; she got to look after him. =( Now I got to start scouting around for another CL. sigh.

Anyone has good CL or CL agency to recommend?
 
rach

I saw the Huggies wipes. Looks fine to me. Besides, $3.20/pack is quite cheap, so no harm getting lah.

shelled

Me too! In fact, I have been experiencing almost painful soreness at my pelvis. Think it's the weight of Babylet pressing down. And I have not stopped weraing the support band since I bot it, except when I'm gog out only for a short while &amp; not walking too long. So glad I bot 3 leh haha.

Sometimes when walking, the pain comes.. And I have to stop, &amp; "ow ow ow" a while, then continue after it goes away. Think Babylet likes to squirm &amp; push hard with his limbs now rather than kick. Sometimes can see &amp; feel my tummy being pushed machiam like Samson is onside haha.
 
Maternity Leave
Am thinking of taking 4mths of ML straight but after looking at the calendar hor, there're quite a few holidays at the end of the year. If take 4 mths straight like a bit bo hua cos holidays are factored into the 4mths. Or should I just forefit the public holidays? Hmm..
 
Sep Meet-up

So far, 16 or 30 Jun is ok with me. I also want town area haha. Other suggestions for food :

1) Crystal Jade
2) Swensens....
 
milkyway,

yup u need to top $$ for ur mom for bb-sitting...
like a 1-2 hundreds more loh...
all the consumerables will be bought by u...
eg. diapers,milkpowder(if bottle fed),wipes...etc...
and of course clothings too...

i not paying $$ to mil but my hb is paying the $$...and he add $$ on top of the monthly allowance
we just prepare the consumables and clothings...
 
mrskoh

Uh oh.. At this stage, dunno how to find "recommended" CL. Maybe u may have to consider getting from agency?
 
Gd morning to all.

Long time no post msg liao.

my prenatal class is also starting this sat at 2 or 2.30pm (forgot the exact timing) at AMK hub.

I should also be available on 16 and 30 Jun for Sep meetup.
 
<font color="0000ff">RE: Infant care vs nanny</font>

Agreed on what Sandwich has shared. But of course, there are some differences for different infant care centre and different nannies, somehow based on how lucky you are to get a good one, either the infant care of nanny. Government subsidy for infant care is ONLY for full time working mum. Nanny no subsidy at all, cos it's not a "formal" care.

I would like to share from my own experience. My son is sent to the infant care since he was 2 months old till now (17 months). But my #2 will be sent to a nanny instead.

I like the infant care a lot, cos the teachers are genuinely loving the kids and that's very important to me. My son developed very well and fast, which some main effort has to go to the teachers as they taught/coached him well. My son walked at 10 months (in fact, almost every infant at that centre walked before turning 1 year old). And all his motor skills also developed very well. Very sociable and active boy. Also, it's pretty discipline in the centre, as in they take bath, eat and sleep according to a pretty much fixed schedule, so that helps the child to grow healthily cos sleep and food are apparently the most important things in their early year. And like Sandwich pointed out, the infant care has planned activities that are suitable for the kids at the certain age, which are not available from the nanny.

The downside, as many believed, that the child falls sick often. But to me, I don't link that to the infant care. In fact, when I compared my son, who is at full time infant care, to others children who are taken care by SAHM/IL/own parents, the rate of falling sick is about the same. Children at young age is easy to fall sick in general after the fist 6 months or so. Sickness helped them to build up immunity.

Totally agreed with Sandwich about the watching TV part. Many people missed this, but it's true, most of the nannies' favourtite past time is watching TV drama, and guess what's the kid is doing while they watch TV?

Having said that, my #2 will be sent to a nanny. Reason being we are not Singaporean, so we won't get any subsidy at all. Sending her to infant care is too expensive. And the teachers of my #1 has kindly introduced a friend to me. This nanny worked in the infant care before and she is certified. Visited her house and it's clean and tidy and she looks like a very nice woman.

Finger-crossed that she will be a good one. But we are not worried, as if the nanny doesn't work out right, we will just send #2 to the infant care, just have to fork out more $$$.

In summary, at the end, doesn't matter if you are going to send your child to either infant care of a nanny, the most important thing is to find a good one, that you can trust and you are comfortable with. Once you put your child there, build up the good relationship with the teacher/nanny, so that you can follow your child's development closely.
 
Sandwich/Gina/Kam

Thanks for all your info. The infant care center which i shortlisted cost $850 b4 subsidy. After subsidy cost me $250 p/mth and if there is baby bonus, i only have to pay ard $190-$200 p/mth. The intake is 12 babies. There will be 3 caretakers, each will take care of 4 babies. There is a deposit of $850 and $100 admin fees. One of these days 1 will go down personally to look at the environmt and talk to the caretakers b4 confirming. Didnt know the mattress have to buy, will find out fm them


mrskoh,

You may want to check out this confinemnent agency. They offer 12 month free interest instalment too
http://www.pemconfinement.com/index.php
 
berrypie,

$850 is a very good price. My infant care is charging $1200 before subsidy and I have no subsidy at all :-( Ratio of 1 to 4 is good. Don't think you need to buy mattress, but it's the bedsheet that you need to buy, so each baby using his/her own bedsheet to minimize passing the germ among them. A visit to the infant care is a MUST! And yes, talk to the teacher. Best thing to do is to visit them without notifying them in advance, so you can see the "true colour" of the teachers. My advise to you is also look at other kids in the centre, if they all look happy and smiling, then you got the right centre, but on the other hand, if the kids look rather bored/unhappy/grumpy, then you will be better off looking for another one :)
 
berrypie
Why with babybonus u pay lesser ? me too thinking who should take care of my #2. #1 is in childcare. Her school does provide infant care, but did not find out the details yet.

DH was thinking to let his mum take care but she is not staying near us. The fetching will be quite tiring but it will be cheaper than infant care.

Jul04
Me too, pelvic very sore whenever i sit too long or walk too much. Dun remember to have this soreness with #1 leh

Shelled
The confinement food from NewBaby nice or not ? Cos thinking to order one meal as MIL will prepare dinner for me
 
RE: infant care...

me also decided to get my #2 to a infant care while #1 goes to Child Care...cos same school better...

the one i visited is not bad..except it's non aircon and all infants were sleeping when i visited the center...
so didn't get to see the activities that infants suppose to be doing...
but the old toddlers were just waiting for parents to pick them up...

maybe i should go and visit them in the afternoon instead during my maternity leave...
so can see what they do in the afternoons...
 
haiz...so envy you gals...can have the option of putting your bb in infant care...can imagine for my area near my hse, dun even have a single infant care centre..
 
Hi Kam,

Thanks. I will take note.

Hi Hui Chern,

Im not sure abt the BB bonus yet. The teacher told me with bb bonus will be cheaper. My bb has to be under either OCBC and Standard Chartered bank. I will find out this in the later part. Now its still early. I still doing my research and comparison.
 
Haystack,

im still taking my folic pills.

Hi Moojenn,

My infant care center is some distance away fm home but its between my office and home so this is consider quite convenient for me liao..
Heard tt more carecare and infant care centers coming up this year. Perhaps you can check with your town council.
 
Hi mommies,

Sorry for the interruption.

Siemens Healthcare Sector (Ultrasound Division) is providing free 3D ultrasound scans for ex pectant mothers. A total of 4 mothers are required. So bring along your friends! A free CD with your baby's 3D images will be given after the scan.

Details:
1) Preference: 24-33 weeks pregnancy
2) Date: 10 Jun 2009 (Wednesday)
3) Time: 1500-1545 hrs, 1545-1630 hrs, 1630-1715 hrs &amp; 1715-1800 hrs
4) Duration: 45 mins
5) Venue: The Siemens Center, 60 MacPherson Road, S'pore 348615
6) Contact: Jessie Wong, ofc 6490 8076 or hp 92959189

Please be assured that for the Siemens free scan, you are not guinea pigs, and Siemens is not testing the machines. They are selling these machines to OB doctors in the region, and worldwide.

Please refer to this thread for one of the earlier scan for Dec 2008 mommies.
http://www.singaporemotherhood.com/forumboard/m essages/578191/1742857.html1222314404#POST5865189
Recently, we have also invited some 2009 mommies for scan early this year in Jan, March &amp; Apr 2009
 
hi everyone

Haven't had time to come by here in a while.

Am keen to read more about infantcare centres. We haven't decided what to do after the baby comes, so am interested in hearing about all options.

Kam and Sandwich have given very insightful comments - thank you
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Has anyone tried the option of half-day Infant care? As in, leaving the baby there for morning or afternoon only? What is the experience like?
 
Morning ladies! Just got back from the gynae. Baby's a healthy 800g!

berrypie
Think what you're referring to is the CDA account. The money in the CDA account can be used for childcare and medical expenses.

http://www.babybonus.gov.sg/bbss/html/index.html

haystack
Yes. The gynae advises that the folic acid pills be taken to term. She is currently on 'Obimin'.

shelled
Yea. My wife spoke to the HOD already so that's kinda like the plan. She'll take 2 mths of study leave to prepare for her exams so I don't think I want the kid to distract her during that period if I can help it.
 
Thanks Gerald and Berrypie

Wondering y my clinic told me that I can stop taking that... The nurse told me since the multivit has folic, i no need to take anymore
 
not to create any scare here. but i read from two sources saying excess folic acid is not good.

anw becos our daily intake of the formula milk &amp; multivitamin has folic, so dun need to take folic acid.
 
haystack:
After my 1st trimester, my gynae switched my folic pills to a multivit that has iron and folic acid. Huishan is right, no need to take too much.
 


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