(2009/08) August 2009 MTBs

bear,

Ok, joyful sms me this morning le
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Tks!
 


Piggy, pls pass my Ts to Bobo will do will arrange wif her separately. thanks ya.

Sharon, thanks for your coordination on the bash-T
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oh gosh.. but glad that zhaozheng is doing better now le.

errrh.. the parenting congress i mentioned earlier was the one by mediacorp de woh. wat abbott de u all memntioning abt? sounds interesting erh.

TEEs FOR WESTERNERS:
yup..since piggy already collected from sharon today le... pls those who wld like to collect frm me let piggy/me noe so we can correctly arrg who to hold your tees. thnx.
 
fat Bobo (jumbobo)

i collect from u.

mashy
yea... i find it tiring too. but i did for my elder one, so now i hv to be fair... so must do it one more time.
 
Hi Sweetmama,
there are 2 types of fever medicine - the mild and the strong type.
Mild type : paracetomol and progesic for fever below 38.5 degress
: take every 4-6 hours.
Strong type : ibufuren and neurofen for fever 38.5 degrees and above.
: take every 6-8 hours.

We can alternate fever medicine every 4 hours if fever keep going up and down. Means, give strong medicine, 4 hours later, give mild medicine, 4 hours later, give strong medicine.

From what i recall from my PD, there are different groups of fever medicine. If the baby is immune to one group of fever medicine, try to take another group of fever medicine.

There's also voren, used when fever is 39.5 and above, which is inserted to the anus, which will let the child poo poo and bring down the temperature.

After giving medicine, the temperature will normally go down for a while before rising again. When it goes up, try to sponge the bb's armpits, groin areas, neck, forehead, behind the kneecap and arm joints. Sponging is not good when bb is sleeping, cos we do not want to disturb bb's sleep. Another method is to let bb sit in the bath tub for a longer time to cool down the temperature, use warm water is ok too.
 
piggy,
i'm collecting from the west too. did you collect mine from sharon ? can i collect from you ?

hi mashy,
do share your pics.
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mine is next sunday ...
 
Re: maid
First, she show me a black face when i ask her to things, but since she do it, so i ignore.
Second, when i ask her to do things, she wants to follow her style and give lots of reasons for doing her style.
Third, ok, i don't ask her, i tell her to do things. I say 1 sentence, she rebutt me 10 sentences ! Then when i talk loudly and tell her don't give me all these reasons, she starts to cry ... don't think i can trust my bb with her ...

I think i'm going to change her sooon ...
 
joeey
I am a bit confused about "alt fever med every 4 hrs if fever keep going up and down".

Awhile ago PD gave me both paracetomol and neurofen. What I heard from the cashier/clinic nurse was to alt fever med like what you said.

But a day later, I called the clinic again as his temp did not decrease and found out that I did it wrongly. was told by Dr Ong's clinic nurse that I must feed paracetamol all the time. If temp go above 38.5 degree then add neurofen but must keep it atleast 2 hrs apart.

Then she also added that neurofen must "work" together with paracetomol.
 
mashy, I totally understand! Which is why after the 2 girls and their bday parties, I can't bring myself to do another one for Isaac. Told my hb we'll celebrate his bday differently -book some hotel and stay one night or something like that.

reira, hope Zac gets well soon.
 
hi mummies,
Nanny versas infant care: I thou of putting my bb when he turns 1 years old in infant care but after hesitation, we decide to put him when he is 18months but turns out my nanny told me recently she cannot take care of my bb anymore. My mummy recommended her friend to us and we thou fine at least could find a replacement in such short notice but when we visit her place through our conversation, she like to go jalan jalan and put bb in her old pram, she will put bb in her playpen and bath bb in her bath tub, and she is expensive (basic 650, 50-100 depends on what food bb eat?? = so its about 750, with that price think i could put in a reputable childcare with half day sat), we also found her not so flexible in terms of milk schedule. She even recommend me an old malaysian milk bottle to use? and some cream she can put on my bb's skin if rashes..i was like if i put him there, my bb will be using all old stuff leftover by the previous bb, ok not?
 
Mummies, my baby has a cough with phlegm. it was runny nose last week but now mostly cough only. it's not very bad. no fever at all.

any natural remedies on how to get rid of the cough? (i think the docs here won't give meds since no fever)

we're flying back to Singapore on Wed. hope she'll be completely well by then...
 
Date: 4 Sept (Saturday)
Venue:Yishun Sapphire (Regg's condo) - Back-up Vivien's condo Hillview Green
Time: 1-5pm

Attend(PLs indicate the bb name u want on the cupcake):

1) donkeymami & hubby (Jovia)
2) SBB & hubby (TO BE CONFIRM) so u want the cupcake?
But not eating as we are vegetarian
3) piggytoh & HB (Kyler) 11-5pm
4) mystifiedjan & hubby (Ethan)
5) april(ferrariswift) & hubby & elder son (Edric)
6) joyful & Hubby (Denson)
7) DolceVita & HB ( Natalie )
8) fatBobo & hubby (Mattea & Keona) - ok for 11am - 5pm
9) joeey & hubby & elder son (Edeline)
10) Joia (Sophie)
11) BBnGG & Hb & elder son (Janessa)
12) vivien (Alyn)
13)weishy(Lucas) ill pay even if in case i cant attend
14)patricia(zelia) will pay if last min not coming cos planning to go msia. Haven confirm going on 4th or 5th
15) kikilala (Kiiron) - ok for 11-3pm or 1-5pm
16) Regg & HB(Regan) - ok for 11-5pm
17) Mich (Isaac)
18) Puroland & Hb (Charlotte)
19) Michelle & Hb (Jeremiah)
20) irene & hb & Joshua (Jayla)
21) Reira & hb (Zachary) - ok for 1-5pm
22) daph & hb (Seth)
23)happi & Rachel (Rayes) - 1pm to 5pm
24 Babys & bb (Shayna) KIV hb. ok with any time.
25) Lawshe & Hubby & BB (Ernesta) - 1pm to 5pm
26) Eunice & hb (Lucas) - ok for 11 - 5pm
27) Karen Toh & hb (Elise) - 11 to 5pm
 
Babiesmeme,
i have no experience too but from what u describe, maybe it is good to put in infant care now if u have the intention to put your bb in childcare. it's just a matter of sooner or later unless u really find someone that u trust to leave your bb with if not, u will be thinking of him all the time while u r working. i won't take risk when it come to my children.

joeey,
i like my previous maid very much, i tot i am so lucky. my kids like her, she have the intiative to do work, her english is gd (she even read to my 3yos girl) and most imptly, my dog likes her too. (my dog is very very fierce, and we so worried he will bite the maid).

my maid told me that she can take care of my toddler n bb at home just herself and she dun want to go over to my mom's plc. i told her, you have only 1 choice (but i phased it nicely). you choose to leave or go to my mom's plc. she choose to leave. i send her back to agent that day. and she is just with me for 2 days. she negotiated such term.... these days maid are really too smart.
 
Hi peg,
nanny verses infant care: i just came back from "crusing" the potential infant care centres - sparkletots(pap),my little skool(ntuc) and montesorri..

any mummies have any experience in putting to those above??
 
Re infant care

I had bad experience putting my boy there and that's why I quit my job and looked after them ever since. The infant care itself is ok, altho the staff turnover is quite high. The main reason we left was coz my son kept falling sick there. He had 2 times ear infection, numerous bronchitis until he was declared asthmatic. I think if he was given time to recover for each illness, it wouldn't be that bad. I think it had affected his overall health and growth. I withdrew him when he was 15 mths. My gal has been in my care all this while and when I compare the 2 kids, can tell that my gal is generally healthier. Altho she is small size, she is growing steadily. My boy kind of stopped growing for a long period then.

I think it depends on the state of your bb's health. If your bb recovers quickly from illness and is very fat and healthy then I think can try infant care. But otherwise better go to nanny.
 
Babiesmeme

check infant teacher ratio. Very important coz if short handed, by mcys stds it's 1:5. Most go by 1:3 but sometimes not achievable when there's High staff turnover. I think pap usually quite high ratio. I won't consider them if I were u.

Next consider total no of children in sch and if there's Close contact with older children. The older ones are the ones who pass the germs. Too many children also means high chance of infection.
 
Sunshineg

try the double boiled pear. ESP since it's summer over your place. Double boil pear with Nan xing bei xing, chuan bei and let bb drink.
 
infant care: just now go peep see see look look at little skool and pap. They have separate rooms for toddler, playgroup and infant care, think should be quite safe. got to check on their infant ratio. saw one website shows 2 to 11 months is 1:3 and 12 months -18 months is 1:5.
 
mashy:
can share your party experience.

joey :
share with us also after yours next week..
btw is yr maid from phili?
if maid talk back, better to change them, they r not afraid of employer at all
my mum maid also wanna faint, she always do thing wrong or either forget,but she always say sorry sorry.
haizz..now 6mth liao still can forget to clean here n there, when ask her y so dirty, she jus sorry sorry..
told my mum this maid will make u crazy but she say lazy to train new maid.

bobo: thank u so much,t shirt deliver almost right to my doorsteps.
 
babiesmeme: Infant care slot is hard to get... I practically call up all the infant care around my area and found 3 with slots.. of which 1 has very bad review... another one capacity is too high.. 20 babies! Can imagine the spread of virus... and I got 1 which the review is not bad (I email a fellow mummy whom son is in the center)... I am going for the 12 days trial class... I am keeping my finger cross... I think the main concern all mummies have over infant care is the spread of virus and baby falling sick...

My personal view about nanny is... they can sometimes be worse than maid... they have "more views of their own" than maid... putting at nanny home is comparable to put ur baby with a maid... the child only interact with the main caregiver... watch TV at home... unless u really get a very good nanny... same goes to maid...

I still haven really decide if infant care is better than maid... But since there is a slot... I wanna give it a try to see what goes on from there...

From what I know for my first skool, everyday have to bring 2 to 3 sets of clothes, 1 towel, 3 to 4 hankerchief and a matress cover... the milk powder and diaper can keep at the center.

If the baby is younger, I dun think infant care is a good choice, given that the teacher is not be 100% on the child. But now that our babies are mobile and start to get very active... infant care might be a good choice.

Have u manage to get a slot at the infant care? Some of the waiting list is really terrible... I dun know isit because of the area I am staying or it apply to the whole of sg...hahahah
 
babiesmeme,
i agree with Puroland. n personally i have seen how unprofessional nanny harm an infant which result in worse than bb gettin sick more often.. so u really gotta chose sumthing which u feel comfortable at.. maybe from the ifc u visit u can chose 1 u find n feel comfort with.. at least u will feel more at ease.
 
Sunshineg,
i gave my bb the EYS hou ning for his cough n phelgm n i find it pretty gd he really v fast but ex thou u may wan to consider..
 
babiesmeme> putting with baby with nanny, dey usually got their old traditional method of bringing up baby, ifc usually better. in terms of learning, ifc learns more, cos got more playtoys n tools for teaching, but kids at ifc fall sick easily, cos many kids ard, etc etc. more question abt ifc can ask me. cos my boy was at ifc since 5mths+

depending on if u find a good ifc. my boy love his teacher in ifc so much sometimes he refuse to go hm when i go pick him up from sch.

oh ya, my boy's ifc is sparkletots, run by pap. wat i like is their enrolment is smaller. only 10-11babies. so can ensure less virus running ard. so main thing is u know wat u r looking for when looking for a ifc.

mashy> not quite leh. my boy's ifc is runned by pap, not very high turnover. the teachers are actualy aunties who stay ard the area n they really love kids. from the way i see my boy sticking to them, refusing to go hm when i pick him up, i know how much fun he have in sch.

the sch is more enthusiastic than me in teaching him new things, feeding him new food, all with my approval. i remember it was them who introduce porridge to my boy when he turned 6mths. telling me, my boy is big oredi, can eat porridge with chicken or so or not etc

also they have a facebook acct where they update parents on the babies activities in sch. really heartwarming to see all these n to see how my boy is progressing in sch. every 3mths he bring home a portfolio with pics of him engaging in the activities in sch, to show his development as well.

his enrolment in infant care have also made him not so afraid of people he do not know. wun cry the moment he see strangers, but know how to behave quiet n observe in the presence of people he did not see before, n if he sees these people talking n chatting wtih us, means they are friends, n he'll open up to them too.
 
Celine,
have drop u a PM regarding the collection of the tee...

<font color="0000ff">Anymore mummies?</font>

Date: 4 Sept (Saturday)
Venue:Yishun Sapphire (Regg's condo) - Back-up Vivien's condo Hillview Green
Time: 1-5pm

Attend(PLs indicate the bb name u want on the cupcake):

1) donkeymami &amp; hubby (Jovia)
2) SBB &amp; hubby (TO BE CONFIRM) so u want the cupcake?
But not eating as we are vegetarian
3) piggytoh &amp; HB (Kyler) 11-5pm
4) mystifiedjan &amp; hubby (Ethan)
5) april(ferrariswift) &amp; hubby &amp; elder son (Edric)
6) joyful &amp; Hubby (Denson)
7) DolceVita &amp; HB ( Natalie )
8) fatBobo &amp; hubby (Mattea &amp; Keona) - ok for 11am - 5pm
9) joeey &amp; hubby &amp; elder son (Edeline)
10) Joia (Sophie)
11) BBnGG &amp; Hb &amp; elder son (Janessa)
12) vivien (Alyn)
13)weishy(Lucas) ill pay even if in case i cant attend
14)patricia(zelia) will pay if last min not coming cos planning to go msia. Haven confirm going on 4th or 5th
15) kikilala (Kiiron) - ok for 11-3pm or 1-5pm
16) Regg &amp; HB(Regan) - ok for 11-5pm
17) Mich (Isaac)
18) Puroland &amp; Hb (Charlotte)
19) Michelle &amp; Hb (Jeremiah)
20) irene &amp; hb &amp; Joshua (Jayla)
21) Reira &amp; hb (Zachary) - ok for 1-5pm
22) daph &amp; hb (Seth)
23)happi &amp; Rachel (Rayes) - 1pm to 5pm
24 Babys &amp; bb (Shayna) KIV hb. ok with any time.
25) Lawshe &amp; Hubby &amp; BB (Ernesta) - 1pm to 5pm
26) Eunice &amp; hb (Lucas) - ok for 11 - 5pm
27) Karen Toh &amp; hb (Elise) - 11 to 5pm

Only joinin for mass photo taking and want the cupcake:
1)celine
 
Dear all mummies,
regarding the BB BD Bash, anyone can come early? so that help on co-ordination/deco etc...
Since the Booking will be 11am-5pm, i will be there ard 11am. anyonce ?
 
reira/joeey > rgd the fever medication.. my PD clinic oso follow the "feed paracetamol all the time. If temp go above 38.5 degree then add neurofen but must keep it atleast 2 hrs apart" method...

vivien > not at all la.. 'omoz at doorstep'...but u did walk out n back.. bahaha~


RE: MAID
haiz..talk abt maid agn... my no.2 maid oso making me crazy!!! so angry with her all the time!!!!! waste 'resources'..do extra work..like hokkien say "kiang lo ho..mai geh kiang"..wah lao...smtimes she tink she do certain tings will get praised arh.. PUI..extra, brainless...irritating n frustrating lor. alot of scenarios la.. but latest one..juz last nite.... wah lao!!!
we came hm frm dinr at my in-law's..den at the door niah.. my dog like whinning..abit ke lian like dat. we went into the hse..whole floor full of fur! my poor boi whinning like crying help.. den scratch n scratch... then i asked no.2 whr she brought him for his biz before we left hm..did he walk into bushes or wat? (cos might be allergic to some plants or wat mah..) she said no.. FINE.. den i tink tink... i asked her.. did she give cadbury eat the ikan billis frm the porridge (normally we boil the soup base with some ikan billis, den give cadbury boi eat de mah).. BUT ystrday, we tried agn with chicken instead of pork (cos my girls dun eat chicken the other time..so we wanted to try agn..).. no.1 maid said she warned no.2 before cadbury is allergic to chicken..so DUN GIVE HIM ANY CHICKEN.. den no.2 said 'no..no i din give chicken!" wah lao aeh.. ver xin tong for my cadbury n very very angry with no.2! (many times i feel like killing her liao!).. i asked her.. "do u eat pork?" she said "no" (cos she indo..muslim mah). i said "ok..but if i cook vege with pork..den can u eat the vege?" she shaked her head, said "no..cannot!".. i was like "THEN??? WHY U GIVE CADBURY EAT THE IKAN BILLIS? U DIN GIVE THE CHICKEN, BUT ALL BOILED TOGETHER.. IS IT THE SAME???"
darn angry lar!!!!

kns.. early mrng i tink tink oso angry!
 
LUNCH @ TG PAGAR / RAFFLES PLACE on WEDNESDAY (14 Jul)
Time: 12:00pm
Venue: (errh..no idea yet)

1) fatBobo
2) april (tees collection)
3) bbngg (tees collection)
4) happi (tees collection)
5) joia (tees collection)
6) eboey ??
7)
 
Hi Reira,
Yes, I agree, giving the fever medicine is confusing to me too.
What I did was : for high fever (>38.5), give neurofen, 4 hours later, if fever still high (>38.5), give paracetomol. 4 hours later, if fever still high (>38.5), give neurofen. We can’t give too much neurofen as it is very strong.

piggy,
thanks thanks. How about Wednesday/Thursday evening at Pioneer or Boon lay mrt , whichever is convenient for you ?

hi sunshine,
when bb have phlegm, I usually give cough medicine, rhinathiol , to help to dissolve the phlegm, so that bb can either vomit out or pass into the stomach. I’ll stop or reduce the amount of fish, pumpkin, banana, biscuits for 1,2 days, give less sweet foods. Milk will cause more phlegm but I do not dilute the milk.
If bb cough at night, try not to on the aircon, put some ruyi oil on the chest, stomach areas. Keep the chest and feet warm. Try not to give cold food, feed bb with warm porridge, warm cereals, warm milk, warm water. But I know sometimes also very difficult to have everything warm but just try our best lor.
 
peg
the maid that u like.. and well liked by the kids and dog onli stayed with u for 2 days.. how abt now?:p

all maids dun like to go to ah-ma's house!!!!!! i came to a conclusions.. maids are interview smart nowadays.. say yes yes yes to everything during interview.. just to land themselves a job in sg. once they come here, not happy or dun wanna go to ah-ma's house, can simply go back to agency.. why? coz of the loan they owe agency or employers, they know agencies will push them to get transferred out instead of being sent home... even if the agency punish them with an additional 1 or 1.5mths, it's alright to them.. it beats waiting in phili/indo for another 3-6 mths or even more, of not doing anything... but waiting for another potential employer to call them up for interview.
 
REGG~~
i wanna hair clip. but me not going to birthday bash :pPPpP

mashy
yes yes.. sh are with us how is ur birthday party for lil hayley? so exciting, all our babies starting to have their 1st party now.
 
hi babiesmeme,
it's hard to find a trusthworthy nanny or a maid. If you are not comfortable, it's safer to put in ifc. If you put bb in ifc, be prepared to take leave when bb falls sick. If you get a maid, you'll need someone to oversee the maid. All options have its pros and cons. You may have to try different options to see which one suits you.
 
Celine,
yes NP can they be at home...

Joeey,
i will passby Boonlay MRT daily for wkday. but wat time will u be reaching? i can only wait till 6.45pm is tt ok?
 
hi babiesmeme,
it's hard to find a trusthworthy nanny or a maid. If you are not comfortable, it's safer to put in ifc. If you put bb in ifc, be prepared to take leave when bb falls sick. If you get a maid, you'll need someone to oversee the maid. All options have its pros and cons. You may have to try different options to see which one suits you.
 
Many thanks piggy,
630~645 is fine, so we meet this wednesday ? my hp is 91250388. could u sms me ur number, just in case ?
 



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