(2008/04) April 2008

tsukushi: yah lor, i know very ex..
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I am buying 1 item a month, so don't feel the pinch. So many items to buy and cost so much - stroller, car seat, breast pumps, cot, feeding items, bathing items, clothes, my own maternity clothes, etc etc!

I can't wait for next week! Want to know baby's gender too!
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<table border=1><tr><td>NICK </TD><TD> EDD</TD><TD> GYNAE</TD><TD> HOSPITAL </TD><TD>CHILD #</TD><TD> Pref </TD><TD> Res </TD></TR><TR><TD>Adeline</TD><TD>24-Mar</TD><TD>Dr Lim T.B.</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD>SK </TD></TR><TR><TD>cheesycake </TD><TD>1</TD><TD> CH Koh </TD><TD>Mt A </TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>XiaoZhu </TD><TD>1</TD><TD>Dr Woo BH</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Tiong Bahru </TD></TR><TR><TD>Jamie</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Dr Gordon Tan</TD><TD>GlenE </TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD>Old Airport Rd </TD></TR><TR><TD>Jgal</TD><TD>2</TD><TD>Dr Ong </TD><TD>Mt E/A</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>Redhill </TD></TR><TR><TD>Poohies</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Dr WH Kee</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD></TD><TD>G</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Cutiebb </TD><TD>3</TD><TD>Dr Sito </TD><TD>GlenE </TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>TLH</TD><TD> 3</TD><TD> Dr Khi</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>cathy</TD><TD>3 </TD><TD> Dr Lim</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD> </TD><TD>B</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Starlet</TD><TD> 4</TD><TD> Dr Poon</TD><TD> Mt A</TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Rain </TD><TD>6</TD><TD>Dr Douglas Ong </TD><TD>MT A</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Ashleyjames</TD><TD>6</TD><TD></TD><TD>MT E</TD><TD>3</TD><TD>B</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>sherin </TD><TD>6</TD><TD>Dr Adrian </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>QooSan</TD><TD>6</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>mushloom </TD><TD>7</TD><TD>Dr HK Ho</TD><TD>Mt A</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Xiang </TD><TD>7</TD><TD>Dr Woo</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD>Redhill </TD></TR><TR><TD>Tratties</TD><TD>8</TD><TD>Dr Sng </TD><TD>GlenE </TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Pasir Ris </TD></TR><TR><TD>Cloudluv </TD><TD>8</TD><TD>Dr WK Kee </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>Jurong W. </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>calamari</TD><TD>9</TD><TD>Dr LC Cheng</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD></TD><TD>B</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Lee </TD><TD>9</TD><TD>Dr Joycelyn Wong</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Stephanie</TD><TD> 9</TD><TD> Dr Lisa Chin</TD><TD>GlenE</TD><TD>1 </TD><TD>G</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>calender </TD><TD>9</TD><TD>Dr Adrain</TD><TD>Mt A/TMC</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Bedok</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Kea </TD><TD>12</TD><TD>Dr Chong</TD><TD>GlenE</TD><TD></TD><TD>G</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Simp</TD><TD>12</TD><TD>Dr AL Lim</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>KL/Tiong Bahru </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>LL77 </TD><TD>12</TD><TD>Dr Fong</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Gail </TD><TD>13</TD><TD>Dr Leong</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>burpy_babe </TD><TD>13</TD><TD>Dr Benjamin Tham </TD><TD>KKH </TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>SK</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Doobie Doo </TD><TD>14</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>tsukushi </TD><TD>14</TD><TD>Dr WK Tan</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Strawverries</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>Dr Benjamin Tham</TD><TD>KKH </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>scubababe</TD><TD>15</TD><TD>Dr Chan</TD><TD>Glen E</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Pasir Ris </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Celine </TD><TD>16</TD><TD>Dr Lawrence Ang</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD> Yishun</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>BabyDust&Luck </TD><TD>18</TD><TD>Dr Lisa Chin</TD><TD>GlenE</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>Dover</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Cherish</TD><TD>18</TD><TD>Dr Jocelyn Wong</TD><TD>MTC</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>G</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>eSthericiious </TD><TD>21</TD><TD>Dr. Devandra </TD><TD>SGH</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>CCK</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>ABC mum </TD><TD>22</TD><TD>D.Fong CW</TD><TD>GlenE</TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Steph </TD><TD>23</TD><TD>Dr Mary Yang</TD><TD>GlenE</TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>AmyQuek</TD><TD> 23</TD><TD> Dr Cathyn Chan</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Jenny </TD><TD>24</TD><TD>Dr Benjamin Tham </TD><TD>KKH </TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD>SK / Pasir Ris</TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>OkieDockie </TD><TD>27</TD><TD>Dr SY Chew</TD><TD> GlenE </TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>jaspire </TD><TD>27</TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD>1</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Starling </TD><TD>29</TD><TD>Dr WK Tan</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Michelle Chua </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD> </TD><TD>2</TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Gemini05 </TD><TD></TD><TD>Dr Jocelyn Wong </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Ann </TD><TD></TD><TD>Dr Tan Hang Yang </TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Bun </TD><TD></TD><TD>Dr Esther Ng</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Sputnik </TD><TD></TD><TD>Dr Adrian Tan</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD>AMK</TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>honeybunn</TD><TD></TD><TD>Dr Wee</TD><TD>Mt E</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Serene123</TD><TD></TD><TD>Dr Kee</TD><TD>TMC</TD><TD>1</TD><TD>G</TD><TD></TD><TD></td></tr></table>
 
<font color="0000ff">morning mtbs...
how are your weekend.....

Kea,
Not too sure about the HR stuff... any HR pple help can help... I think it might be subject to company to company....</font>
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Good morning gals
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a quick check with you, are you all advise to take the flu vaccine for the coming winter ? My gynea ask me to jab if my company does not provide. $65 .. is it exp. ?

Kea : yeah MC depends on company. Unless you earn less than $1.6k per mth, the empolyment act regarding leave is not applicable. My company give 3 mth full-pay and 3 mth half-pay medical leaves per calender yr.
 
<table border=1><tr><td> </TD></TR><TR><TD>Age </TD><TD>五月</TD><TD>六月</TD><TD>七月 </TD></TR><TR><TD>25</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G </TD></TR><TR><TD>26</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>27</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G </TD></TR><TR><TD>28</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G </TD></TR><TR><TD>29</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>G </TD></TR><TR><TD>30</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>31</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>32</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>33</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G </TD></TR><TR><TD>34</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>35</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>36</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>37</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B </TD></TR><TR><TD>38</TD><TD>B</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>G </TD></TR><TR><TD>39</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>G</TD><TD>B</td></tr></table>
check with you gals.. how many of you the prediction in the above chart is correct.. the age refer to mother's lunar age.. and the mth refer to the conceived date. 五月一日is 14 June and 六月一日is 14 July.. most of us shld fall in june/july.
 
abc mum:
I will be seeing doc this sat. hope to see the gender too so that I can buy baby things as I will be going to BKK on the 7 nov.
 
jgal....the flu vaccine so ex....I tok mine in Mar07 n its only $25....maybe the one for pregnancy is more ex? Y dun u chk wif your co. doc.....if they say its the same u might as well do it outside.....

calamari...yup my heart veli pain spending so much $$...now only maternity clothes n gynea fees already pay n pay...can't imagine when it comes to bb stuff....luckily my neighbour pass me her sis's bb cot.....
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Stephanie: Yah lor. So every month buy 1 big item, not so heart pain haha. So for Oct, I will buy Medela pumps, Nov buy stroller and car seat, Dec buy cot. Next year then buy the small items - feeding stuff, bathing stuff.

By the way, anyone did research on car seats?
 
i think i will be getting avent pump.. i heard the isi uno is really good.. it's small for bring to the office + it can remember your pumping pattern.
Dual pump can be very bulky to bring to office.
Medela mini electric , i heard can be painful, if get medela has to get the medela swing which is more expensive. And i like avent's bottle.. Avent has VIA which allows you to pump straight into the bottle and feed frm it.
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No need to pour and waste milk.
 
Hi mtbs!

Jgal mine is the same as the lunar chart which u have cut and paste...my friend's 1 also the same...was thinking maybe quite accurate
 
calamari....u got to check b4 u buy....i waiting for the robinson/JL sale to buy the medela pump leh...sometimes there is 20% disc + additional 20% for members or some special price...so save $$ everymth then wait for the big sale then buy, thk will do the same for stroller n car seat...hee hee hee..
 
Stephanie: Yes I was mentioning earlier in the thread. The Robinsons sale will be on till 11 Nov. I will go back and get the Medela Advanced PIS breast pump. So far Robinsons is the cheapest I have seen. $699 plus Robinsons rebate of 5% if you are a card member..so $659. Usual price is $799 and Baby Kingdom is selling for $719.
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The stroller I want also on 20% now there, so is the car seat. Must save money so buy now! HEHE
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Step - congrats on knowing ur bb gender! My checkup is this Sat, cant wait to see Bb!!!!!! Its been a long time since i last seen bb, 1 mth ago. Hope to clear the NT test also, since no news from them should be good news.
 
Stephanie: Yes I was mentioning earlier in the thread. The Robinsons sale will be on till 11 Nov. I will go back and get the Medela Advanced PIS breast pump. So far Robinsons is the cheapest I have seen. $699 plus Robinsons rebate of 5% if you are a card member..so $659. Usual price is $799 and Baby Kingdom is selling for $719.
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The stroller I want also on 20% now there, so is the car seat. Must save money so buy now! HEHE
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calamari, i think the jgal's chart shows MTB's baby preferred gender instead of the confirmed gender. since some of us had the gender confirmed, it maybe good to add a new column.
 
Ladies,

Want to check with you all, any one know if we can still go for pedicure and facial? And also, anyone changed your usual daily cleansing routine? I using Clinque products, the toner got one kind of alcohol smell but claims to not contain any alcohol dunno can still use or not...
 
Amy - pedicure and facial is very subjective. I still continue go for pedi & Mani and use my facial products.
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But i stop dye hair or do any hair treatment.
 
MTBs who are concerned about skin care during pregnancy and nursing, this article may be interesting! (Sorry for long post :p)

Safe skin care during pregnancy
by Angie Drakulich

http://www.babycenter.com/viewArticle.htm?page=1&articleId=1490031

Most pregnant women know that what they put (or don't put) in their bodies is important to the well-being of their growing baby, whether it's the right kind of protein, too much caffeine, or certain types of fish. But many pregnant women might not know that what they put on their bodies is just as important.

Most of us slather on oceans of lotions every day, but we don't think about what might be passing the skin barrier and being absorbed into our bodies. With a developing baby in your belly, this is a vital concern.

"Everything you eat, apply, or come into contact with may affect not only you but also your baby," says Sandra Marchese Johnson, a dermatologist with Johnson Dermatology in Fort Smith, Arkansas.

"Because some topical ingredients get absorbed into the bloodstream, there are some you want to avoid," adds Leslie Baumann, a professor of dermatology at the University of Miami and author of The Skin Type Solution (Bantam, 2006).

The more powerful and targeted products get, the more we need to be careful about what we have in our skin-care regimens during pregnancy. While most commonly used products are completely safe, there's a handful of ingredients considered potentially harmful to a growing baby. Below, see our guide to what to look for when shopping the beauty aisle.
If you plan to breastfeed, adds Johnson, continue following the guidelines noted below until you stop nursing.


Retinoids

These powerful substances, found in some antiaging moisturizers, are lauded for helping reduce wrinkles and improve skin tone. Retinoids are a type of vitamin A that speeds up cell division (quickening your skin's renewal) and prevent skin collagen from breaking down.

But retinoids are one of the skin-care ingredients that experts, including Baumann, recommend that expectant moms stay away from. Some studies have shown that high doses of vitamin A during pregnancy can be harmful to an unborn child. And oral retinoids, such as isotretinoin (Accutane, an acne treatment), are known to cause birth defects.

If you've been using a skin cream that contains a retinoid, don't panic. Retinoids have not been shown to cause problems in their topical form in pregnant women.

"There is no data to show these retinoids ingredients are harmful when used on the skin doctors are just being extra cautious," explains Baumann.

On the label:
Differin (adapelene)
Retin-A, Renova (tretinoin)
Retinoic acid
Retinol
Retinyl linoleate
Retinyl palmitate
Tazorac and avage (Tazarotene)

Bottom line:
Best to avoid


Salicylic acid

This mild acid is used to treat certain skin disorders, including acne, and you can find it in a number of skin products, such as cleansers and toners. It can penetrate facial oils to get deep into pores and clean out dead skin cells. Salicylic acid is in the aspirin family, so it can also help reduce inflammation or redness. BHA, or beta hydroxy acid, is a form of salicylic acid and is used in some topical exfoliants to reverse signs of aging.

But salicylic acid is another no-no for pregnant women. High doses of the acid in its oral form have been shown in studies to cause birth defects and various pregnancy complications.

Again, doctors are being cautious by recommending that pregnant women avoid the topical use of salicylic acid. Small amounts applied to the skin such as a salicylic acid-containing toner used once or twice a day are considered safe, says Johnson.

But the concern is stronger about face and body peels containing salicylic acid. "This kind of 'soaking' in the ingredient is similar to taking one or more aspirin when pregnant," she explains.

"More product used equals more absorption into the bloodstream," adds Baumann. Always check with your doctor before having a peel treatment. Better yet, she advises, if you must have a peel, have it done professionally at your dermatologist's office. A dermatologist will know how to do it safely during pregnancy.

On the label:
Salicylic acid
Beta hydroxy acid
BHA

Note: Alpha hydroxy acids, sometimes listed as AHAs, glycolic acid, or lactic acid, are safe.

Bottom line:
Best to avoid


Soy

Some moms-to-be seek out natural ingredients such as soy in their skin-care products, thinking that they're free from harmful effects. But that's not necessarily the case, says Baumann.

While soy-based lotions and facial products are generally safe to use, "Soy can make the 'mask of pregnancy' (dark splotches on facial skin) worse, as can oil of bergamot, which is in many organic products," she says.

Soy has estrogenic effects, which can make those dark patches, also known as melasma or chloasma, worse, Baumann explains. "The 'active soy' found in some product lines is okay, however, because the estrogenic components have been taken out."

On the label:
Lethicin
Phosphatidylcholine
Soy
Textured vegetable protein (TVP)

Bottom line:
If you have dark skin or melasma, avoid these products, or choose 'active soy' products instead. Otherwise it's safe to use.


Acne products

Many women have breakouts in the first trimester because of changing estrogen levels, even if they've always had clear skin. If you're dealing with pregnancy-induced acne, a dermatologist can likely give you a safe topical antibiotic, advises Baumann. You can find a dermatologist in your area through your health insurance company or at the American Academy of Dermatology Web site.

But if you prefer to avoid yet another doctor appointment, Baumann recommends using a facial wash that contains no more than 2 percent salicylic acid (look for the percentage on the product label). This small amount is considered safe.

If you want to be doubly sure, ask your obstetrician or midwife before use. As for what to avoid when it comes to treating acne, stay away from leave-on acne lotions, gels, and creams, as well as at-home peels, which can contain salicylic acid or retinoids, says Baumann. And, of course, steer clear of the oral form of the retinoid Accutane.

On the label:
Beta hydroxy acid
BHA
Differin (adapelene)
Retin-A, Renova (tretinoin)
Retinoic acid
Retinol
Retinyl linoleate
Retinyl palmitate
Salicylic acid
Tazorac and avage (Tazarotene)
Tretinoin

Note: Glycolic acid is an AHA, and safe to use.

Bottom line:
Consult your dermatologist, or use mild over-the-counter cleansers only.


Hair removers & minimizers

Lotions that remove your hair chemically (depilatories) or that minimize hair between shaves sound like a dream come true when you can barely reach not to mention see your legs. The good news is that these products are considered risk-free.

"There are no specific ingredients to avoid when it comes to these types of products," says Baumann. "The only risk is an allergy."

Catherine Lynch, director of the division of general obstetrics and gynecology at the University of South Florida, says, "As long as you use [chemical hair removers] as directed, they shouldn't be a problem. It's a topical solution that isn't absorbed into your bloodstream, so it can't have any effect on the baby."

If you've had an allergic skin reaction to hair minimizers or removal creams in the past, then you should avoid these products during pregnancy as well.

Also, some women's skin gets extra sensitive during pregnancy, so you may have a reaction to these ingredients even if you haven't before. Before slathering your whole leg, do a patch test on a small piece of skin behind your knee and wait 24 hours to see if you react.

On the label:
Potassium Thioglycolate (depilatory)
Calcium Thioglycolate (depilatory)
Sodium Hydroxide (minimizer)
Sanguisorba Officinalis Root Extract (minimizer)
Hydrolyzed Soy Protein (minimizer)

Bottom line:
Safe to use


Sunscreens

Just because you're pregnant doesn't mean you can't hit the beach. In fact, feeling the sand between your toes and that warm breeze in your hair may provide that perfect "relaxation point" your Lamaze instructor has been talking about. And as your mom always told you: Don't forget the sunscreen.

Sunscreens, including those with ingredients that penetrate the skin, are perfectly safe when you've got your own bun in the oven, says Baumann.

"[Ingredients] that do go deep into the skin do so in such small concentrations" that they're not worth worrying about, says Johnson. "I personally prefer titanium dioxide and zinc oxide they are powerful physical sunscreens and do not penetrate the skin."

She adds, "In addition to sunscreen, we advise sun-smart behaviors avoiding the sun between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.; using a sun hat, sunglasses and sun-protective clothing; and reapplying your sunscreen every two hours."

And if you have melasma, adds Baumann, you can try a UV protector with a skin lightener.

On the label:
Titanium dioxide
Zinc oxide
Avobenzone (Parsol 1789)
Oxybenzone
Dioxybenzone
Benzophenone
Octyl methoxycinnamate (OMC)
Para-aminobenzoic acid (PABA)
Octocrylene

Bottom line:
Safe to use


Makeup

You may not give a second thought to the kind of makeup you use, but even cosmetics are something to consider when pregnant, says dermatologist Johnson.

Many makeup products are marked "noncomedogenic" or "nonacnegenic" meaning they're oil-free and don't clog pores. These are safe and will not affect the health of your baby.

Avoid cosmetics that contain retinol or salicylic acid (found in some makeup for acne-prone skin).

If you want to be super careful during pregnancy, try some of the minerals-only makeup lines. These products use ingredients that primarily sit on top of the skin and don't cause irritation for most people.

On the label:
Differin (adapelene)
Retin-A, Renova (tretinoin)
Retinoic acid
Retinol
Retinyl linoleate
Retinyl palmitate
Tazorac and avage (Tazarotene)
Tretinoin

Bottom line:
Avoid cosmetics that contain retinoids or salicylic acids. Otherwise, safe to use.


The final word

When you're pregnant, Baumann says, it's important to discuss any product you use on your skin with your healthcare provider.

But if you realize you have used a product that contains one of the potentially harmful ingredients noted above, don't panic, says Johnson. Simply stop using the product now and pick one with known-to-be-safe ingredients.

"Most over-the-counter products by reputable brands are safe," she says. "And if you are applying these products to less than 10 percent of your total skin surface, the risks of systemic effects are very low."
 
Joelle

gosh...so many ingredients...=/...but normally those lancome etc brands don show their ingredients de mah...me using lancome though...haha......
 
kea: I drink twice to thrice a week.

jgal: I realised there are 2 different versions of the chinese calendar gender prediction chart on the internet. 1 says boy for me, the other says girl ...hahah!
 
Kea: Hmmm...actually I dunno leh. I take when I wake up, then eat breakfast, then take my multivits and folic acid. I supposed EOC is natural stuff, concentrated essence from the chicken, so assume should be alright ba. *shrugs*

Jgal: is yours accurate by the chart? Joelle's one is not accurate. I will know the accuracy next monday hopefully
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calamari.. suppose to 90% accurate. Mine is accurate
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most of my friends also have accurate answer..
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maybe joelle's hubby sperm XY is more powerful..can survive in extreme condition.. and make it first :p

BTW , Joelle , yours is natural birth right? not IVF , IUI.. i know those induce birth may not be accurate.
 
kea

i still take multivits & folic acid even if i take EOC.

chart accuracy

i dont tik its very accurate. for me its correct for my current one but different for my #1. i guess dont believe too much lor, otherwise disappointed.
 
the chart u all use lunar month of conception? or the month of conception???

if use the month of conception all come out boy, if use lunar de, 1 of boy 1 is girl
 
hey all...

do u still feel your heart beating very quickly recently.....sometimes when I sit down or lie in bed, I can feel my heart thumping veli scary...
 



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