Skmm sis, dont overwork or over exert in the baking/ cooking process or whatever u do. Stay happy n relax is v impt during the 2ww.
Sista, don't give up hope yet. There is still the BT to confirm.7dp5dt (transferred my last 2 embryos) and BFN on the early predictor HPT.
Tried accupuncture and endometrial scratch this time round.
But still this, feeling heartbroken
Dearie, you need to try your best to stay positive, take good care of yourself so that your body is in best condition for transfer. At the very least, your 4 precious eggies definitely can do with your faith in them. Many sisters like the_spinsterella, Littlemonkies have conceived with their precious only one golden embie. Don't lose hope. Persevere, have faith & jia you!Sisters... i am so depressed since yesterday.
Had my ER yesterday. Last scan before ER shows that i have 23 follicles, but yesterday they only manage to retrieve 4!!! Argh!! This is the worst number retrieved out of my 3 fresh cycle!
Now i also dont know these 4 can make it to ET or not...
Hi sister , don't give up. Sometimes , things come out is not as expected. I remember got one sister , she did strike it when she only got 1 embryo transferred. Good luck to you sister.Sisters... i am so depressed since yesterday.
Had my ER yesterday. Last scan before ER shows that i have 23 follicles, but yesterday they only manage to retrieve 4!!! Argh!! This is the worst number retrieved out of my 3 fresh cycle!
Now i also dont know these 4 can make it to ET or not...
Sisters... i am so depressed since yesterday.
Had my ER yesterday. Last scan before ER shows that i have 23 follicles, but yesterday they only manage to retrieve 4!!! Argh!! This is the worst number retrieved out of my 3 fresh cycle!
Now i also dont know these 4 can make it to ET or not...
Sisters... i am so depressed since yesterday.
Had my ER yesterday. Last scan before ER shows that i have 23 follicles, but yesterday they only manage to retrieve 4!!! Argh!! This is the worst number retrieved out of my 3 fresh cycle!
Now i also dont know these 4 can make it to ET or not...
Assuming you will be on short protocol.
Thank you dearie, all the best to you too
Assuming you will be on short protocol.
The stim jabs may be same or different but all same purpose, ie. to stimulate follicle growth. E.g. common meds include Puregon, Menopur, Gonal-F, Pergoveris
Dosage will be higher as you want to stimulate more follicles so as to retrieve as many as possible but under control to prevent over-stimulation (risk of OHSS).
Mid-way through the stimulation period (about 10-12 days), there is additional jab to suppress LH hormone (e.g. Orgalutran, Cetrotide, Ganirelix, etc) so that you will not ovulate naturally before planned egg retrieval.
In a long protocol, down regulation with LH suppressing med (e.g. Lucrin) is started earlier (about CD21) for 7-10days before starting stim injections.
When at least 2-3 or most of the follicles are at least about 18mm, the final jab (usually HCG horomne) is to be given at precisely 36 hours before egg retrieval to trigger maturation of the eggs so that they will be released and collected through OPU (oocyte pick-up) which is a ~15-20min egg retrieval procedure performed by doctor. For OPU, you will be under sedation.
Prior to the egg retrieval, you will be given oral antibiotics. Some docs may order this to be taken after OPU, so depends.
-If you are at KKH, sisters also with KKH have shared that you need to be prepared for 1/2 day required depending on the queue. At TFC, doc is in only mornings before noon and it is pre-arranged appointment so you may be able to manage with time-off if you have earliest first few or the last appointment. So far have not heard of MC taken, it's just time-off or personal annual leave.
- Average 3 scans (some do only 2 scans and at most 4 scans) over a period of about 10 days
-See above reply to previous msg. Side effects have been seen to be inconsistent across ladies.
I referred to this article many times to mentally prep myself of the potential side effects when starting a fresh cycle - http://www.cityfertility.com.au/wp-...tility-Medications-and-Their-Side-Effects.pdf
As follicles grow, tend to feel increasingly bloated and ovaries areas feel tender. Minimise strenuous activities and no heavy lifting. In my first ivf, I was still working and only took HL after egg retrieval till BT. It is manageable.
The oral antibiotic may cause diarrhea for some people. The sedation drug may cause constipation for some ladies.
To prevent OHSS esp if you have many follicles, you are advised to already start adding more protein rich foods (also good for egg health) such as egg whites, fish, chicken to your diet and drink min 2L water daily.
Good reads on OHSS -1) http://www.kkh.com.sg/Services/Women/KKIVFCentre/Pages/OHSS.aspx ;
2) http://www.path2parenthood.org/article/are-you-at-risk-for-hyperstimulation-syndrome/
- Yes, continue folic acid throughout the IVF and even after. If you BFP, doc will advise any increase in folic acid dosage.
- Anytime of the day is possible so long as same time everyday and works best for you based on your daily schedule. Nurse will advise further and demo on first day when you collect the meds. Only the last HCG jab is given precisely 36 hours before OPU (for TFC, this jab is not self-administered and we have to go to 24-hour clinic for this jab usually night time)
- Injection site may hurt a little and may hurt more or bruise only if you hit a vein. Some meds give a stingy sensation that goes away once the med disperses. Nothing that will seriously affect work. If you are concerned, can take the jabs in evening or before sleep.
- If you are working, I feel work helps to keep me occupied and become oblivious to the side effects. Only thing is that I feel stressed at times due to frequent absence time required and also feel rush and worried at times if we are eating well and taking care of body enough because of the lack of time outside work. Just do your best and rem that staying positive and mental strength is very powerful. Try keeping communication with hubby and getting support from this forum. What best then to get support from sisters who truly get you going through this.
Can find time to start thinking and preparing what you need to get and what you will do during 2ww.
When ever you have any doubts or qns, try to note it and grab opportunity to clarify with doc/ nurse whenever there is opportunity because it is really difficult contacting them unless you meet them at scan or procedure
Hope this helps. Jia you k!
Meanwhile drink more water n continue intake of protein. Good luck!
You r def a show of great strength. Give it your best shot & stay positive.
Thank you DawnBB for your detail advise. But today is my 1st day full flow and tomorrow is my D2, should i wait to call in and go for my 1st scan on D3 or just walk in for my 1st scan? Any ladies got the same situation like me ? What will you do? Go in on D2 for the 1st scan without making an appointment?Assuming you will be on short protocol.
The stim jabs may be same or different but all same purpose, ie. to stimulate follicle growth. E.g. common meds include Puregon, Menopur, Gonal-F, Pergoveris
Dosage will be higher as you want to stimulate more follicles so as to retrieve as many as possible but under control to prevent over-stimulation (risk of OHSS).
Mid-way through the stimulation period (about 10-12 days), there is additional jab to suppress LH hormone (e.g. Orgalutran, Cetrotide, Ganirelix, etc) so that you will not ovulate naturally before planned egg retrieval.
In a long protocol, down regulation with LH suppressing med (e.g. Lucrin) is started earlier (about CD21) for 7-10days before starting stim injections.
When at least 2-3 or most of the follicles are at least about 18mm, the final jab (usually HCG horomne) is to be given at precisely 36 hours before egg retrieval to trigger maturation of the eggs so that they will be released and collected through OPU (oocyte pick-up) which is a ~15-20min egg retrieval procedure performed by doctor. For OPU, you will be under sedation.
Prior to the egg retrieval, you will be given oral antibiotics. Some docs may order this to be taken after OPU, so depends.
-If you are at KKH, sisters also with KKH have shared that you need to be prepared for 1/2 day required depending on the queue for scans. At TFC, doc is in only mornings before noon and it is pre-arranged appointment so you may be able to manage with time-off if you have earliest first few or the last appointment. So far have not heard of MC taken, it's just time-off or personal annual leave.
- Average 3 scans (some do only 2 scans and at most 4 scans) over a period of about 10 days
-See above reply to previous msg. Side effects have been seen to be inconsistent across ladies.
I referred to this article many times to mentally prep myself of the potential side effects when starting a fresh cycle - http://www.cityfertility.com.au/wp-...tility-Medications-and-Their-Side-Effects.pdf
As follicles grow, tend to feel increasingly bloated and ovaries areas feel tender. Minimise strenuous activities and no heavy lifting. In my first ivf, I was still working and only took HL after egg retrieval till BT. It is manageable.
The oral antibiotic may cause diarrhea for some people. The sedation drug may cause constipation for some ladies.
To prevent OHSS esp if you have many follicles, you are advised to already start adding more protein rich foods (also good for egg health) such as egg whites, fish, chicken to your diet and drink min 2L water daily.
Good reads on OHSS -1) http://www.kkh.com.sg/Services/Women/KKIVFCentre/Pages/OHSS.aspx ;
2) http://www.path2parenthood.org/article/are-you-at-risk-for-hyperstimulation-syndrome/
- Yes, continue folic acid throughout the IVF and even after. If you BFP, doc will advise any increase in folic acid dosage.
- Anytime of the day is possible so long as same time everyday and works best for you based on your daily schedule. Nurse will advise further and demo on first day when you collect the meds. Only the last HCG jab is given precisely 36 hours before OPU (for TFC, this jab is not self-administered and we have to go to 24-hour clinic for this jab usually night time)
- Injection site may hurt a little and may hurt more or bruise only if you hit a vein. Some meds give a stingy sensation that goes away once the med disperses. Nothing that will seriously affect work. If you are concerned, can take the jabs in evening or before sleep.
- If you are working, I feel work helps to keep me occupied and become oblivious to the side effects. Only thing is that I feel stressed at times due to frequent absence time required and also feel rush and worried at times thinking if we are eating well and taking care of body enough because of the lack of time outside work. Just do your best and rem that staying positive and mental strength is very powerful. Try keeping communication with hubby and getting support from this forum. What best then to get support from sisters who truly get you going through this.
Can find time to start thinking and preparing what you need to get and what you will do during 2ww.
When ever you have any doubts or qns, try to note it and grab opportunity to clarify with doc/ nurse whenever there is opportunity because it is really difficult contacting them unless you meet them at scan or procedure
Hope this helps. Jia you k!
Am changing to private. Still thinking between 2 private doctors. Am definately no confidence in our qualities n getting very stressed when i think abt it,even now when cycle hasnt even started. Seems like failure rate very high. Sometimes even think of giving up n ask myself to stop wasting time money on this. But as u say,stress will not help. So asking myself not to stress over n leave it to fate n godness up there.
Dearie, what about call in first thing tmr morning let them know it's your D2. If it is crucial to start scan & meds on D2, they should arrange for u to go in no matter what. So do standby urgent leave. If they say it is def ok to start on D3, then they will arrange appt for Thurs. Make sure you find out who you speak to if calling in case anything goes wrong. I know TFC can do same day appt for such cases so I can even turn up without calling & confident I get to see doc, maybe just hv to wait a bit. Not sure if any issues for above mentioned suggestions if consulting at KKH. Maybe fellow sisters with KKH can also advise.
Thank you so much DawnBB.
Maybi u telephone in ivf centre at kkh now
Kkh ivf opens from 730am -1130am for scan. Suggest you call them early in the morning and ask for their advice. Alternatively, if you have the paper schedule for scanning, you can bring it along and queue for scan.
Today is PH, not Sat.
Really?? Can I know why spotting implies good news??Spotting is usually good news. All the best!
Ummm.. because it is not full flow AF.. thats how i stay positive...
You already know this but maybe having someone reminding you helps? So let the nosy me say this - what can you change or achieve from letting feelings of stress and tension grip you?
Yes, I'm taking CoQ10 in Ubiquinol form, 300mg daily. I also took this throughout the ivf (stim, ER, ET, 2ww) as doc confirmed ok.
Thanks. I should be thinking positive like you instead of worrying
- up to u if u want to request mc or go work, I went back to work taking just time chit.
Same here... BT on thurs but I have spotting since Saturday... It's just not normal menses flow..
Hi dear .. aiyo y mine is start suppression first then grow follicles. Anyone with the same protocol as me? Supression jab needle bigger and i ended uo poking myself twice cos the 1st try the needle didnt manage to go into the fats counting down the days thru jabbing to egg retrieval ..Assuming you will be on short protocol.
The stim jabs may be Different but all same purpose, ie. to stimulate follicle growth. E.g. common meds include Puregon, Menopur, Gonal-F, Pergoveris
Dosage will be higher as you want to stimulate more follicles so as to retrieve as many as possible but under control to prevent over-stimulation (risk of OHSS).
Mid-way through the stimulation period (about 10-12 days), there is additional jab to suppress LH hormone (e.g. Orgalutran, Cetrotide, Ganirelix, etc) so that you will not ovulate naturally before planned egg retrieval.
In a long protocol, down regulation with LH suppressing med (e.g. Lucrin) is started earlier (about CD21) for 7-10days before starting stim injections.
When at least 2-3 or most of the follicles are at least about 18mm, the final jab (usually HCG horomne) is to be given at precisely 36 hours before egg retrieval to trigger maturation of the eggs so that they will be released and collected through OPU (oocyte pick-up) which is a ~15-20min egg retrieval procedure performed by doctor. For OPU, you will be under sedation.
Prior to the egg retrieval, you will be given oral antibiotics. Some docs may order this to be taken after OPU, so depends.
-If you are at KKH, sisters also with KKH have shared that you need to be prepared for 1/2 day required depending on the queue for scans. At TFC, doc is in only mornings before noon and it is pre-arranged appointment so you may be able to manage with time-off if you have earliest first few or the last appointment. So far have not heard of MC taken, it's just time-off or personal annual leave.
- Average 3 scans (some do only 2 scans and at most 4 scans) over a period of about 10 days
-See above reply to previous msg. Side effects have been seen to be inconsistent across ladies.
I referred to this article many times to mentally prep myself of the potential side effects when starting a fresh cycle - http://www.cityfertility.com.au/wp-...tility-Medications-and-Their-Side-Effects.pdf
As follicles grow, tend to feel increasingly bloated and ovaries areas feel tender. Minimise strenuous activities and no heavy lifting. In my first ivf, I was still working and only took HL after egg retrieval till BT. It is manageable.
The oral antibiotic may cause diarrhea for some people. The sedation drug may cause constipation for some ladies.
To prevent OHSS esp if you have many follicles, you are advised to already start adding more protein rich foods (also good for egg health) such as egg whites, fish, chicken to your diet and drink min 2L water daily.
Good reads on OHSS -1) http://www.kkh.com.sg/Services/Women/KKIVFCentre/Pages/OHSS.aspx ;
2) http://www.path2parenthood.org/article/are-you-at-risk-for-hyperstimulation-syndrome/
- Yes, continue folic acid throughout the IVF and even after. If you BFP, doc will advise any increase in folic acid dosage.
- Anytime of the day is possible so long as same time everyday and works best for you based on your daily schedule. Nurse will advise further and demo on first day when you collect the meds. Only the last HCG jab is given precisely 36 hours before OPU (for TFC, this jab is not self-administered and we have to go to 24-hour clinic for this jab usually night time)
- Injection site may hurt a little and may hurt more or bruise only if you hit a vein. Some meds give a stingy sensation that goes away once the med disperses. Nothing that will seriously affect work. If you are concerned, can take the jabs in evening or before sleep.
- If you are working, I feel work helps to keep me occupied and become oblivious to the side effects. Only thing is that I feel stressed at times due to frequent absence time required and also feel rush and worried at times thinking if we are eating well and taking care of body enough because of the lack of time outside work. Just do your best and rem that staying positive and mental strength is very powerful. Try keeping communication with hubby and getting support from this forum. What best then to get support from sisters who truly get you going through this.
Can find time to start thinking and preparing what you need to get and what you will do during 2ww.
When ever you have any doubts or qns, try to note it and grab opportunity to clarify with doc/ nurse whenever there is opportunity because it is really difficult contacting them unless you meet them at scan or procedure
Hope this helps. Jia you k!
Hi sister, no worry .... Bleeding does not mean for bad news at least you still know you little one still fighting.... My BT is Fri, I did home test yesterday morning , it was negative , I have no symtoms and spotting so far.... Totally no mood since yesterday , waiting for miracle.... By the way, have you do HPT test at home ?
I will be visiting her as well
I have one HPT to use. But I really have no guts to try. Having disappointment every month of testing.... This time I so scared to use it.... I'm still hopeful but at the same time I don Wan to be so hopeful... Same hear hoping for miracle... 2ww down to 2 days... I keep looking at the calendar...
Hi Dawn, your doc asked you to take ubiquinol 300mg per day? I am not sure about the dosage so I am taking only 200mg a day. I am same age as you
Ha ha ya ya good Luck to your BT. Wait for your good news on Thur , is this your fresh or FET cycle ?
Hi sister , how are you ?
My husband and I both took 100mg of Cq10 daily as read that can improve sperm and egg quality
Good luck to you this friday... This is my first fresh cycle for icsi after fail iui... Wat abt you?
Dearie, I added CoQ10 & dosage based on a book recommended by a blogger, who was battling infertility issues. The book is "It Starts with the Egg" by Rebecca Fett. Rebecca was an IVFer due to diminished ovarian reserve. To help herself, she put her degree in molecular biology and biochemistry to good use to research on what lifestyle changes and supplements would help to improve her chances. Ultimately she became a living example of hope as she succeeded to prove that the focus on egg quality does indeed pay off. She eventually had 20 eggs retrieved of which 19 fertilized and grew to good quality blastocysts.Hi Dawn, your doc asked you to take ubiquinol 300mg per day? I am not sure about the dosage so I am taking only 200mg a day. I am same age as you
Thanks dear, you are like a talking encyclopedia you really know a lot of things about ivf Y(^.^)Y
