Vivine, the nurse told me to expect the call between 1-4pm depending on the workload of the lab technicians. I received the call at noon. For my fresh cycle, I got the call at 11+am.
Hope2bb, Tks! since your menses are regular, natural fet will work better for u. Less drugs to take. My menses is irregular so dr told me to do medicated.
Bb grin, Tks! Hope dhea will help u strike in the coming mths.
Meiling, my case similar to everylittlethings. Did a fresh cycle in 2011. Had 10 mature eggs but only 4 fertilised. Put 2 embryos in and BFP. My boy is 20 mths now. Did a medicated fet last mth and thawed my balance 2 embryos. Both survived thaw and BFP. The key things I did was take red date tea, red bean soup and wear socks daily. U can see more details in my mon posts. My husband didn't take any medication and had to use frozen sample as he was travelling when we did the fresh cycle. Everylittlethings listed the stuff she did too. Food she took, tcm etc so u can see her post 2-3 weeks ago for details. Believe her blog will hv details too.
For sisters with only a few fertilised embryos, don't despair. Only need 1 beanie to stick each cycle. Have faith!
Vivine, tan1109, all the best for your coming BT this week.
Hi Ladies,
It is officially over for me this round. :_(
AF came at full force (unexpectedly cos I usually have a 35 days cycle. I think the IVF process must have altered the cycle quite a bit.). BT is negative. I won't be posting very much over the next few days. Need the time to try to sort out my emotions before gettig back to work and plan for the next step.
I would appreciate if you ladies (especially those who had BFP) can share your experience on your diet, supplements, alternative treatments (TCM, acupunture) with me so that I can prepare myself better should I decide to go on the next round.
Pumpkin_pie: Congratulations on your BFP. I am very happy for you. Please sprinkle some of your precious bb dust my way. Hopefully, I will be luckier in my next round of trying with your dust magic!
ViVine: I wish you all the very best in you upcoming BT. And in a good way, I hope that I will never have to see you in this thread again... I pray that you will get the BFP that I did not get and 'graduate' to the other 'mummy and pregnant' threads on this forum. Best of luck!
Hi Hope2bb nxt cycle cannot be medicated if your current one was medicated but u can try naturally; my gynea said they will never do medicated cycle simultaneously ; they want the meds to wash off ; can do medicated after nxt AFCongrats pumpkin pie.
Af came right on the dot as my cycle is regular. So didn't need to do BT afterall. How long does the body need to rest before starting the next cycle? Natural vs medicated FET, which is better?
I understand it's very painful I have gone thru this ; we tried for 6 yrs before we had our daughter who is 2.5 now; I completely changed as a person; n tats wen I picked up running; it actually saved me from becoming a complete wreckHi Sonia, thanks for your reply. No wonder doc asked me to rest 1 month and try natural FET in March.
Saw a patient in the clinic today with twins : 1 boy 1 girl. Instead of hopeful, I feel depressed. Sigh...not that I'm not happy for them as they totally deserved the beautiful babies having gone through 4 cycles. Will try to pick myself up again and hopefully be able to cycle soon.
Vivine, the nurse told me to expect the call between 1-4pm depending on the workload of the lab technicians. I received the call at noon. For my fresh cycle, I got the call at 11+am.
Hope2bb, Tks! since your menses are regular, natural fet will work better for u. Less drugs to take. My menses is irregular so dr told me to do medicated.
Bb grin, Tks! Hope dhea will help u strike in the coming mths.
Meiling, my case similar to everylittlethings. Did a fresh cycle in 2011. Had 10 mature eggs but only 4 fertilised. Put 2 embryos in and BFP. My boy is 20 mths now. Did a medicated fet last mth and thawed my balance 2 embryos. Both survived thaw and BFP. The key things I did was take red date tea, red bean soup and wear socks daily. U can see more details in my mon posts. My husband didn't take any medication and had to use frozen sample as he was travelling when we did the fresh cycle. Everylittlethings listed the stuff she did too. Food she took, tcm etc so u can see her post 2-3 weeks ago for details. Believe her blog will hv details too.
For sisters with only a few fertilised embryos, don't despair. Only need 1 beanie to stick each cycle. Have faith!
Vivine, tan1109, all the best for your coming BT this week.
Hi bs1970, I am also seeing tan kian Seng. Did his tcm help yr hubby??? Did yr hubby eat fish maw??I used to be a silent reader of this thread in 2011-12 when I went through the hardest period in my life. I can only find support and comfort when I came to this forum, as only ladies here understand my feeling.
This is my story:
I started ttc in 2007, went for check up in 2008 and found out that my dh has very low sperm count of only 0.8m. Both of us started seeing Dr Tan Kian Seng in 2009. Did 3 rounds of iui in 2010 but all failed. Finally went to see Dr Loh and started my IVF in 2011. To my dismay, we encountered another problem – I have low reserve. I tried 2 IVFs when Dr Loh was still with KKH, long and short protocol. I had 4 jabs daily for my short protocol. Both times, I yield only 1 egg and transferred only 1 embryo. Both cycles failed.
Dr Loh suggested natural IVF for me before he left KK. I did not follow him to Thomson due to cost concern. I tried natural IVF for about 5-6 times in KK under Dr Sadhana and for each cycle, I did not manage to proceed to ER phase as I always ovulated before ER. Feeling so disappointed, I went to see Dr Loh and I finally succeeded. I gave birth last year and I am blessed with a cute baby boy.
Looking back, the ttc journey was so tough. I cried after each failed cycle, after I had spotting, after AF reported. I feel so jealous when I saw pregnant women on street. I even kept a distance from my friend who got pregnant when I failed my iui/ivf.
Ladies, the journey is tough but don’t give up. I will share here what I have done 1 year before I got pregnant.
Please focus on improving your health – quality of eggs and a good womb are very important.
After I failed my 2nd IVF, I did a detox to clear the chemical before I started supplements and TCM treatment. Below is what I ate/did 1 year before my successful cycle:
· Take immunocal 5x a week
· Take conceive-well, CQ10 (150mg) daily.
· Red dates tea at least 5 times a week.
· Red bean soup before ovulation to thicken the lining
· 2-3 pieces of Brazil nuts daily
· Home made chicken essence weekly
· Accupuncture with Dr Zhao of Raffles Hospital before ovulation. ( I took her med for 2 cycles only)
· Soak my feet in warm water before I went to sleep (as advised by Dr Zhao)
· Wear socks to sleep.
· Avoid liang food, tea, cold drinks, alcohol. Cut down on coffee
· Reiki Healing with Md Valencia Tan (yes, I am so desperate)
· Fertility yoga (recommended by a sister here who succeeded in her 1st natural IVF)
· A lot of praying (temples, Novena church)
· Hubby was more cooperative after 2 failed cycle. He went to see Dr Tan Kian Seng every week diligently.
For my successful cycle, I went back to work 2 days after ET but took leave during implantation days (d5-7 post ET). I wear tummy warmer when at home. As I have failed so many times, I did not pin much hope for that cycle. I did not look for symptoms and think too much. Working is also a good distraction. When I was at home, I read my favourite books and watch comedy. To my surprise, I succeeded. When I look at my baby nowadays, I still couldn’t believe it.
Ladies, jia you.
I succeeded through natural ivf. Took med (cant rem the name) on d2-6, d7 i was given puregon and anothrr jab to prevent ovulation. After that, er and et. Retrieve 2 eggs and transferred 2 grade 2 embryo. My best results so far.
Btw, anyone know where can i get brazil nuts? Been finding quite awhile but i dun seems to see any...
Mrscheng, you can buy it at Bugis , basement same level as cold storage, there is a stall sell different kinds of nuts.Btw, anyone know where can i get brazil nuts? Been finding quite awhile but i dun seems to see any...
I'm also seeing dr Sadhana at KKbs1970, so there is a jab to prevent ovulation for natural ivf. Thats good to know. Wonder why dr Sadhana did not use this jab while you were doing natural ivf, wasted so many of your cycles. What is the dosage for your puregon? Sorry for the many question.
cold storage got sell brazil nuts too otherwise know as brazil kennels.
Mrscheng, you can buy it at Bugis , basement same level as cold storage, there is a stall sell different kinds of nuts.
I can't remember what the name of the shop is.
At thomson, grade 1 embryo is the best. Ladies, natural ivf is only suitable for pple with low ovarian reserves who do not respond well to jabs
I see. Thanks!Bb_blue, i cant rem the dosage. Anyway, i just.took once before er.
Which grade of embryo is good? highest is 5 right? So if it is even 1 or 2, chances still the same?
Diff clinic grade differently. Some grade 5 the best n some grade 1 the best.
Btw, my Tcm tsb mentioned b4 that bottled chicken essence is too sweet cos they add caramel. But I took it anyway cos she didn't give me any herbs prior to ET (cos I saw her too late)
Vivine, tsb gave me herbs to take for post ET. Told me to take day after ET, 5 packets of herbs for 10 days. After that, no more herbs. My nx appt with her is supposed to be nx fri. But if pregnant, she told me to just walk in to see her tmr. She will usually prescribe some herbs 'an tai' medicine monthly once pregnant. For my 1st pregnancy, I saw her monthly till delivery. I usu go for monthly gynae check-up, followed by visit to see her on the same day. Her 'an tai medicine' are very mild type like orange peel etc and taste sweet compared to those she gave during ivf which are pretty bitter. I know she prescribe herbs prior to ET (to build up lining) and post ET (to aid implantation) for an ivf cycle.
@bs1970 I also have low ovarian reserve. My first ivf ended at ER because no egg was retrieved. But not sure why doc never mentioned about natural ivf when I went for consultation. Is there any criteria for natural ivf? Such as ovulation? To be honest, I still don't know if I am ovulating every month. The test kit is expensive so I use it only when I "feel" that I might be ovulating, by observing mucus and basal temp, but my temp is very inconsistent and does not show a surge for a few days consecutively.At thomson, grade 1 embryo is the best. Ladies, natural ivf is only suitable for pple with low ovarian reserves who do not respond well to jabs
Hi, did yr hb morph improve after seeing him or remained the same? My hb seeing him becos of 0 morphology...Tsf0205, yes he ate fish maw. Counts improved after seeing him for 1 yr but mophorlogy still low at 1-2%.
Hi, how long after tcm u saw the improvement ? Jus wanted to know if its worth seeing him.Tsf0205, my hubby mophorlogy improved from 0% to.1-2%