I m back on puregon for this cycle. Which is the same as my 1st. N I m due for ER yet.. Plus I have heavy discharge.. Hope I m on the right track..
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I m back on puregon for this cycle. Which is the same as my 1st. N I m due for ER yet.. Plus I have heavy discharge.. Hope I m on the right track..
Who is ur doc in KKH? Perhaps set an appointment to c him/her to get a reassurance? The 1st scan shd b 6 wks?
ron8129
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I can't help much but just giving a hand of encouragement. Stay positive and as difficult as it is, try not to worry & perhaps cheer the little one(s) to fight on. The worry never ends but i hope you get pass this hurdle quickly.
When is your nxt scan?
Think this is true for me. I took med to induce af before starting fet.
bbfanatic
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Yeah totally understand some pp no matter what they do still can conceive easily. Though dunno how caffeine affects or does it have a part to play in successful conceiving, I think cutting the habit is just to tell ourselves that we have done all that we could and have put in our best so we have no regrets.
hi hopeful78, my doctor is dr tan hh. as you know, it is so hard to get to see him
my fetal viability scan will be on 10th dec.
hi ron8129, thank you for your encouragement, as much as i am trying to keep positive, i think i am breaking down. the wait is just so hard..this is my 2nd cycle. already failed 1 fresh before.
i really dunno why the brown discharge just keeps coming.
my fetal viability scan will be on 10th dec. hi ron8129, thank you for your encouragement, as much as i am trying to keep positive, i think i am breaking down. the wait is just so hard..this is my 2nd cycle. already failed 1 fresh before.
i really dunno why the brown discharge just keeps coming.
bbfanatic
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Yeah totally understand some pp no matter what they do still can conceive easily. Though dunno how caffeine affects or does it have a part to play in successful conceiving, I think cutting the habit is just to tell ourselves that we have done all that we could and have put in our best so we have no regrets.
Can I ask what u mean by some ladies body cannot take it? Meaning the next few cycles after failed ivf will be very late is it?
bbfanatic
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Hi I'm not experienced in this, but I think u heed dr Loh's advice, rest more n dun worry too much.hi hopeful78, my doctor is dr tan hh. as you know, it is so hard to get to see him
hi ron8129, thank you for your encouragement, as much as i am trying to keep positive, i think i am breaking down. the wait is just so hard..this is my 2nd cycle. already failed 1 fresh before.
i really dunno why the brown discharge just keeps coming.
bbfanatic
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Hi my 2nd cycle after failed ivf took me 40 over days before the next af came. Until I worried that body was spoilt. Then the third cycle was 34 days, oso v long. Still trying to wait for return to normal cycle length of 28-31 days.
I think some mentioned before that the meds need to be flushed out from body. For me, i am sensitive to meds effect. They either work too well or doesnt work. Mostly extremes. And plus pcos didnt help in resuming my af. I waited almost 50 days bah before i caved in to take med to induce af.
remembeRainbow
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Am I right to interpret that u mean your cycle AFTER failed ivf? U dun mean that failed ivf cycle itself right?
hi hopeful78, my doctor is dr tan hh. as you know, it is so hard to get to see him
hi ron8129, thank you for your encouragement, as much as i am trying to keep positive, i think i am breaking down. the wait is just so hard..this is my 2nd cycle. already failed 1 fresh before.
i really dunno why the brown discharge just keeps coming.
I know It's not easy to stay calm.. U saw Dr Loh abt 3 days ago? Drop both Dr Tan and Dr Loh an email and see what they say? 1 wk will be a long wait.. I don't think I can stand it if I m in your shoes too.
Try taking chicken essence as well?
Labbitzz
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Before ivf I drank coffee min 2 times a day and I am not a water drinker
But since ivf I stop coffee completely although nurse says once a day is ok. You can do it!
First few days of injections because of my usual bad cramps and migraine, started vomiting so end up I took honey which seems to help. For now, I drink honey, Longan red dates tea etc
im into my fifth or sixth day of injection. can't rem. no feeling.. wonder how is the growth of eggs... pending for my scan now.. yesterday I was blur inject halfway then eh why cannot dispense medicine. turn out medicine is finished and I did not replenish. blur me as was in a hur tty to go to work. then inject 2nd time for the difference in dosage.
Labbitzz
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For me, my ivf starts in nov. But dr requested mock ET for me thus I went in oct. My AF in nov was late more than 10 days (mine usually very accurate thus getting worried and also call up kk) end up dr ask me wait one week before they induce. It came a few days after than. Thus, I guess you need to be prepared it will definitely have some changes to our body.
connie_hopeful
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Hi mrs tann, which doc r u with now? Hoe many scans was done from day 2 till now? Is it go to each scan will need to have blood test? Jiayou!
Labbitzz
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Hi mrs tan, I always ks follow the table accordingly, the nurse help me do a marking so I know when the medicine is finished so not need rejab. Good luck in your scan!
ron8129
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Xylitol, how abt going to get your beta hcg checked every 3 days? Would that give u a better sense of control? sometimes the worst thing is doing nothing coz the mind goes crazy.
I have read many women do bleed (spot pink and red) thru their pregnancies and perhaps rest and the proluton will help.
Keep monitoring but your beta did go up so stay positive! Baby is fighting, you should too, ya!
Labbitzz
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Connie, I only do three scans. on D1 of stimulation (3rd day of AF), D7 and D9. No blood test during your injections and for your scan, until you are ready for ER then there will be a blood test needed. They will also schedule you 35 hrs before ER a jab.
connie_hopeful
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thanks dear for e info!
I scan during 1st visit D1 (thats day 2 of my menses) and now D7 my first scan. Lining 6mm only a bit low right? Follicles various sizes from 7mm to 13.5mm.
Anyone same cycle as me? I'm on short protocol. I estimate myself my ER to be around next Thur/ Fri, ET on Sat-Mon.
Labbit : With Doc Sad
Anyone same cycle as me? I'm on short protocol. I estimate myself my ER to be around next Thur/ Fri, ET on Sat-Mon.
Labbit : With Doc Sad
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rememberrainbow, i salute u for your determination. good job on quitting your 'addiction'! i also quit my fav milk tea 2 months before my first failed fresh, and is now drinking minimum while waiting to do FET in dec ( max 1 cup per week) . i also said goodbye to my fav coke and cold drinks . rememberrainbow, u r 33 yrs old as u mentioned few days back right? what does the 44 below your profile name means ? initially i tot u r 44 hahahah.
hi xylitol, if u r worried , go see dr one mre time before your next scan on 10/12. meanwhile make sure bedrest more . apart from going toilet and for meals, try to stay in bed with things that u need beside your bed . think positive and try to be cheerful for your baby and i wish u a smooth pregnancyhi hopeful78, my doctor is dr tan hh. as you know, it is so hard to get to see him
hi ron8129, thank you for your encouragement, as much as i am trying to keep positive, i think i am breaking down. the wait is just so hard..this is my 2nd cycle. already failed 1 fresh before.
i really dunno why the brown discharge just keeps coming.
lynx_sea
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Xy: as long no more fresh red blood, u shd be,safe. brown discharge are juz old blood expelling out. Was hosp due to this n I had brown discharge for a mth in Oct. I was 10 weeks preg then. Meanwhile, like old aunty said, pls bedrest as much as u can n not walk too much.hi hopeful78, my doctor is dr tan hh. as you know, it is so hard to get to see him
hi ron8129, thank you for your encouragement, as much as i am trying to keep positive, i think i am breaking down. the wait is just so hard..this is my 2nd cycle. already failed 1 fresh before.
i really dunno why the brown discharge just keeps coming.
Labbitzz
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Mine is doc THH. But doc sadhana did my ET as doc THH not around.
Mrs tan, you going back this sat for scan?
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remembeRainbow
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Dunno y my profile says 44, I don't rem keying in birthdate, dunno how to edit my profile.
I didn't juz kick caffeine. I stopped eating a LONG list of stuff which my sinseh advised against (1 of it is chicken!!!). Been eating mainly soupy stuff, no fried..
Hubby got fed up coz I became v fussy w food, say I "torture" myself like that how to b happy in life. But I don't c it as torture, I c it as loving sacrifice for my future bb.
There's only so much diet can do la. I think it's just my genes, TCM didn't change a thing in me. I'm a perfect eg of a guai-guai-follow-textbook gal but still nothing after 3 yrs.
papercIip
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Wah... this type of procedure still got mock test? Serious?
papercIip
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Have you think of changing a new doctor?
Hi remember rainbow,
I also with nuh prof pc wong last 2 years. Did my 1st fresh and conceive successfully. Now my gal already 11 months and turn to 1 year old 3 weeks later.
i will go to see him.again after cny to try my 2nd as i do not have any FET. Remember last time i have 9 eggs but only one fertilised. It was so stressful and disappointed that time. But luckily the one is strong and survive.
Dun make urself too stress. Be positive and relax relax relax.
I also with nuh prof pc wong last 2 years. Did my 1st fresh and conceive successfully. Now my gal already 11 months and turn to 1 year old 3 weeks later.
i will go to see him.again after cny to try my 2nd as i do not have any FET. Remember last time i have 9 eggs but only one fertilised. It was so stressful and disappointed that time. But luckily the one is strong and survive.
Dun make urself too stress. Be positive and relax relax relax.
If no fresh blood continuously, its okay!
I only quitted coffee only when I started stimulation.
Anyone remember why we need to eat eggs at this stage? I cant remember why and I hv not started taking yet. Prevent OHSS right?
Hope I have luck with Dr Sad. Last round I retrieved 20 eggs but have 3 usable eggs and 2 did not bfp. Left 1 frozen. Eventually still depends on luck. Just need 1 to make it work..
Sat no idea yet.
Now I go acpuncture at tcm. Maybe I also apply eo at my tummy womb area.. Dunno help a not..
I only quitted coffee only when I started stimulation.
Anyone remember why we need to eat eggs at this stage? I cant remember why and I hv not started taking yet. Prevent OHSS right?
Hope I have luck with Dr Sad. Last round I retrieved 20 eggs but have 3 usable eggs and 2 did not bfp. Left 1 frozen. Eventually still depends on luck. Just need 1 to make it work..
Sat no idea yet.
Now I go acpuncture at tcm. Maybe I also apply eo at my tummy womb area.. Dunno help a not..
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Archie7
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I totally agree with you that good diet can make us healthier to conceive but there is no guarantee. My friend nagged me for years and years to drink lots of red tea coz she believed her sis conceived on red tea. Very sian to hear. Even now I don't think red tea would have solved my complicated fertility problems.
remembeRainbow
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Don't think so.
Tried 3 sinsehs & was actually at a pte & KK (for all my tests) before switching to nuh.
Every switch is stressful to me cos I'm the kind who takes comfort in familiarity. More doctors also meant more differing viewpts, making me more confused.
Archie7
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I quitted coffee once when I started stimulation.
Anyone remember why we need to eat eggs at this stage? I cant remember why and I hv not started taking yet.
At what stage? Many sisters here advocate eating egg whites during the 2ww to help with implantation. Don't worry if you haven't started. I believe that there is no absolute guarantee of conception by eating something - as if it's so easy, then why do we need all that IVF technology? I did not eat anything special during my 2ww, except the Chinese herbs that TSB prescribed me, coz I was so ignorant (that was before I joined this forum and read the wealth of knowledge here). If it's meant to be, it will happen, and your beanie will stick with you.
Archie7
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How long did you stay with each TCM doctor? For many cases, TCM takes a long time to show effect.
Think when start jab can take Ew or protein drink. I recalled its to counter the OHSS.. to battle the build up of fluid in the body due to over stimulation. (just goggled) Esp for pcos can be easily over stimulated. I feel quite lax for this cycle. My dosage has dropped compared to last cycle. Last cycle I felt over stimulated and v uncomfortable towards the end. Those days I took 10 eggs a day. Luckily I love to eat egg whites.
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pinkfuchsia
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Hi hi, I'm with prof too. Failed 2nd fresh in nov. What's the interval to proceed with FET after failed fresh? I was planning in March...
remembeRainbow
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Sinseh #1: 1.5 yrs
Now I feel I totally wasted my time on her cos I gong-gong believe her though my condition didn't improve.
Stopped then did 4 IUIs
Sinseh #2: 2 months
Her expensive meds made my cycle v long (34days) so no thanks.
Sinseh #3: 9 months
My condition still same, sinseh finally said mayb it's my genes.
So that's it... Stopped then straight to IVF.
I only haven't tried accupuncture.
Anyone thinks TCM still got hope for me after reading this?
kymkym
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other than coffee /tea what else cannot take? green tea / chilli? tomyam ok mah?
pinkfuchsia
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Hi mrs tann! It seems 3 mths gap is the bare minimum in between failed cycles and mc hor.
bbfanatic
Member
Yes. U got what I mean.
Oh I see
Thank u girls for the clarification
No wonder Dr loh was telling me my menses will be late this cycle.
papercIip
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@remembeRainbow I would
You should try things that you haven't try before. Don't give up. I would say, you have not find the right doctor yet.
You should try things that you haven't try before. Don't give up. I would say, you have not find the right doctor yet.
Archie7
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I agree with paperclip in not giving up hope. Before I returned to SG to start on IVF, I already started fertility treatments in Sydney. Went to a TCM doc specialising in infertility who was recommended by a friend. The sinseh was unhappy that I was doing IUI/IVF as she grumpily said it "complicated matters" for her, since my body was weak and needed time to build up. Rubbish! I conceived with IVF in less than a year after returning to SG.
I can only recommend TSB in Chinatown as I've been seeing her almost through out my IVF journey. At least she did not advise me against doing IVF while taking her herbs, instead, she accommodated my IVF schedule.
It's hard and even disruptive to change doctors. Even Western doctors have different opinions on the same patient. Sadly, it is inevitable for some of us IVF-ers. If you feel better (e.g. less tired) and your menses are more well regulated after taking a TCM doc's herbs, he/she is probably good for you so you can stick with them longer.