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Mine is not diagnosed.. But my FSH was high when tested at Tmc.. So it may mean Low egg reserve
did you test for AMH? I think that is more accurate than FSH. FSH has alot of factors involved, the time you test during which phase and sometimes stress will also cause it to be inbalance. AMH is more consistent, I tested twice.
 


did you test for AMH? I think that is more accurate than FSH. FSH has alot of factors involved, the time you test during which phase and sometimes stress will also cause it to be inbalance. AMH is more consistent, I tested twice.
Ur twice also similar results?
My first result was twice lower than second result.. Don't know why lei
 
Sorry ger to hear abt yr MC. Hope u r coping fine now. *Hugs* Which hospital are u with?

Hmm, coz for short protocol, I got BFN for BOTH fresh cycles and my fertilisation rate decreased from 100% success to only 50% success. So my fav Dr is hoping that things might improve if she changed to long protocol for me next time. :)
It's good that u have a progressive doctor marshmallow, who changes treatment for u to seek best results! I read that long protocols give a longer stimulation period and more medications right? Then it should help u more with producing more follicles :)

My gynae's nurse told me specifically that for my gynae, his FET results are better than fresh, so I decided to take her recommendations.. Hehe. All the best to yr transfer next month and lots of luck to u!
 
It's good that u have a progressive doctor marshmallow, who changes treatment for u to seek best results! I read that long protocols give a longer stimulation period and more medications right? Then it should help u more with producing more follicles :)

My gynae's nurse told me specifically that for my gynae, his FET results are better than fresh, so I decided to take her recommendations.. Hehe. All the best to yr transfer next month and lots of luck to u!

Hi dear, yap long protocol I heard will involve more jabs and the process is more xin ku. I hope I don't hv to proceed to that stage as I hv a super low pain threshold. :p

Are u in yr 3rd fresh cycle currently? Loads of luck to u too. When is yr BT? :)
 
Hi babe, I hv done 2 fresh cycles which resulted in BFN. How abt u? When will u be seeing yr doc for yr post IVF review?

Initially, I oso thought of doing a fresh cycle just like u but Dr Veronique told me that it will be LONG protocol for me if I embark on my 3rd fresh cycle. So I hear liao already siaannnnz half, considering the fact tat I m super scared of needles, hv super looow threshold of pain and the IV thingy during ER. So I thought might as well juz go for my FET next month. Hehehe.

Dr Veronique is good! I like her too!
Who is your dr for ER & ET? Last time I see her, my ER & ET are by dr Matthew Lau.
 
Dr Veronique is good! I like her too!
Who is your dr for ER & ET? Last time I see her, my ER & ET are by dr Matthew Lau.

Dr Veronique is my fav doctor. I m so happy to see her tdy leh. My first fresh cycle ER and ET was done by Dr Jerry Chan. My second fresh cycle ER and ET done was by Dr Jessie Poon.

Are u going for yr fresh cycle too? Is yr designated Dr Matthew Lau or r u a subsidised patient like me? Hehehe
 
I'm s subsidized patient like you.
Too bad this time round I'm not assigned to her. Dr Matthew is on long leave & my assigned dr is Jerry chan. Did FET with him last Dec, BFN. Going for my 3rd fresh this year.

So luckily of you to assign to her. Who's your Dr for ER/ET this time round?
 
I'm s subsidized patient like you.
Too bad this time round I'm not assigned to her. Dr Matthew is on long leave & my assigned dr is Jerry chan. Did FET with him last Dec, BFN. Going for my 3rd fresh this year.

So luckily of you to assign to her. Who's your Dr for ER/ET this time round?

Hahahaha. I see. Actually I prefer Dr Jerry Chan to do my ER and ET leh.. but but but they assigned Dr Jessie Poon instd for my 2nd fresh cycle. :( Actually, I won't be doing ER next mth as itz natural FET with my 1 and only golden egg. Kekekekeke. :p
 
Thanks Dreams...

I actually bought the double boiler just for the herbs and i have so many pots at home so will probably just sell it. The thing is she is supposed to take notes in her computer on my first consult but totally forgotten what i told her in the second consult and scolded me for not taking basal temp. (She did not even give me the chart or instructions to do that). Then when i told her i am here to siao for FET, she said oh we dun target for FET or IVF.. my method is to help people improve to conceive naturally *faint*

It does not matter cos I won't be seeing her again :p As for fertility massage, I did got a lady to come to my place to do it. I like her because she helps to massage my womb back in position. I dunno if that help but instead of acupuncture, i actually opted massage cos it is more relaxing.. She stays at Woodlands and come to my place (near Bukit Batok) for $80 a hour. Quite popular lady cos she does post natal massages too. If any sisters are interested, please let me know and i will share her details with you.


Hi can pm the massuae details.. thanks
 
I'm scheduled for my second cycle in july after the failed ivf in march. Doctor informed that she will change 3 things for the next cycle :-

- 1 week prior to mensus - stretching of uterus to help implantation
- change the night injection to help maturing the eggs better
- change the protocol for sperm selection

Anyone has went through the above and can share their experience. Does it really help to increase the success rate?
 
I'm scheduled for my second cycle in july after the failed ivf in march. Doctor informed that she will change 3 things for the next cycle :-

- 1 week prior to mensus - stretching of uterus to help implantation
- change the night injection to help maturing the eggs better
- change the protocol for sperm selection

Anyone has went through the above and can share their experience. Does it really help to increase the success rate?
Hi which hosp are u with?
What is the change in night injection and sperm selection protocol the doc is talking about?
 
When u start to see Tcm again? I'm still waiting for my bleeding to stop
1 week after my miscarriage. tcm gave me meds to purge out the old blood and tissue. my kkh doc gave me norethisterone to take for 2 weeks, after which when my menses come, it should help to flush out the old tissues. So, yesterday was to go back to check if everything is clear. If clear, then no need to do d&c. thankfully I no need to do. now I'm still seeing tcm, she give me meds to strengthen my body. according to tcm, miscarriage is most likely due to poor blood circulation. according to my kkh doc, my miscarriage is most likely due to abnormal embryo.
 
1 week after my miscarriage. tcm gave me meds to purge out the old blood and tissue. my kkh doc gave me norethisterone to take for 2 weeks, after which when my menses come, it should help to flush out the old tissues. So, yesterday was to go back to check if everything is clear. If clear, then no need to do d&c. thankfully I no need to do. now I'm still seeing tcm, she give me meds to strengthen my body. according to tcm, miscarriage is most likely due to poor blood circulation. according to my kkh doc, my miscarriage is most likely due to abnormal embryo.
Which Tcm are u with? After taking her meds u really got more blood flowing out?
 
Hi all can I check what is long and short protocol?
Hi CTTC
I find this a very detailed read on the difference between a short or long protocol. Hope it helps.

http://www.bubblesandbumps.com/whats-the-difference-between-a-short-and-long-ivf-protocol/

For myself my gynae said he is taking a middle approach.. an antagonist protocol. I took Gynera (birth control pills to regulate my cycle) , then my injections took another 13 days before extraction.

I think there is no best option on which protocol to use, as both has its pros, but trust yr gynae in assessing your condition to decide the best protocol for you. Best of luck :)
 
My supervisor just inform us that she is pregnant with no. 3, at 40 years old, accident some more. Now I find it even hard to inform her about my condition.


Sometimes I wonder why is it so hard for me to get an accident of this kind...
 
My supervisor just inform us that she is pregnant with no. 3, at 40 years old, accident some more. Now I find it even hard to inform her about my condition.


Sometimes I wonder why is it so hard for me to get an accident of this kind...
Sometimes I wished I kana shot gun.. Maybe shot gun after a certain age isn't a bad thing after all.. Lol
 
Hi CTTC
I find this a very detailed read on the difference between a short or long protocol. Hope it helps.

http://www.bubblesandbumps.com/whats-the-difference-between-a-short-and-long-ivf-protocol/

For myself my gynae said he is taking a middle approach.. an antagonist protocol. I took Gynera (birth control pills to regulate my cycle) , then my injections took another 13 days before extraction.

I think there is no best option on which protocol to use, as both has its pros, but trust yr gynae in assessing your condition to decide the best protocol for you. Best of luck :)
Which hosp are u with? Nuh uses mainly short antagonist protocol with norethisterone as birth control pill..
 
Sometimes I wished I kana shot gun.. Maybe shot gun after a certain age isn't a bad thing after all.. Lol

Hai... Infertility can really strike anyone regardless of age... Some more all the treatment we receive is not considered medical treatment like treatment for heart attack or cancer etc... Nobody recognizes it as a medical condition....
 
Hai... Infertility can really strike anyone regardless of age... Some more all the treatment we receive is not considered medical treatment like treatment for heart attack or cancer etc... Nobody recognizes it as a medical condition....
Ya.. It's trial and error with no definite cure.. Just hope we strike one day
 
Hi dear, yap long protocol I heard will involve more jabs and the process is more xin ku. I hope I don't hv to proceed to that stage as I hv a super low pain threshold. :p

Are u in yr 3rd fresh cycle currently? Loads of luck to u too. When is yr BT? :)

Hi Marshmallow.. yeah, I'm at my 3rd IVF try.. did a fresh and 1 FET before this and used up all my previous 3 embies.. so have to redo again lor. Going in with trepidation this time.. quite scared of failure again. I'm only transferring in July, so BT will be then
 
Which hosp are u with? Nuh uses mainly short antagonist protocol with norethisterone as birth control pill..

Oh I'm with TMC.. actually first time hearing this antagonist protocol also. I checked it up online, seems that in some countries they use it to boost chances, for those who have failed before. So Dreamscometrue are u with NUH? What stage are u now at?
 
Hi Marshmallow.. yeah, I'm at my 3rd IVF try.. did a fresh and 1 FET before this and used up all my previous 3 embies.. so have to redo again lor. Going in with trepidation this time.. quite scared of failure again. I'm only transferring in July, so BT will be then

@finesse9702 How are yr 6 fertilised eggs coming along? Any idea why u wan to transfer in Jul instd of May? All the best to u dear. :)
 
Oh I'm with TMC.. actually first time hearing this antagonist protocol also. I checked it up online, seems that in some countries they use it to boost chances, for those who have failed before. So Dreamscometrue are u with NUH? What stage are u now at?
Stage zero now.. Just mc.. What protocol were u on
 
@finesse9702 How are yr 6 fertilised eggs coming along? Any idea why u wan to transfer in Jul instd of May? All the best to u dear. :)
Hi dear, thanks for asking :) Every day passes like a giant bomb ticking and counting down for me. Today we have confirmed 2 good 5-day blastocysts which will be frozen. Tomorrow more update on the remaining 4. According to embryologist they are still splitting, but their progress is slower than these 2 good ones. Praying very hard for them to survive this last lap! If they're all ok, will freeze them tomorrow... Fingers criss cross like mad now. Oh im transferring in Jul coz i want to tiao my body more, and lose some weight haha. i read in one of the online studies that IVF implantation chances are significantly higher for patients who lost weight in the process of the study. Actually a lot of readings and school of thoughts online.. just try my best to follow and put in my best, and hope for the best.

Stage zero now.. Just mc.. What protocol were u on
very sorry to hear that :( . I was on antagonistic, which is a in between of long and short protocol. But this round after monitoring, my gynae decided to increase injection of 2 new drugs, Saizen and Pergoveris, besides Gonal F and Centrotide. Jiayou dreamscometrue.. most important thing is to rest well now, tiao your body, and join this fight again with rest of us! lots of hugs x
 
Hi dear, thanks for asking :) Every day passes like a giant bomb ticking and counting down for me. Today we have confirmed 2 good 5-day blastocysts which will be frozen. Tomorrow more update on the remaining 4. According to embryologist they are still splitting, but their progress is slower than these 2 good ones. Praying very hard for them to survive this last lap! If they're all ok, will freeze them tomorrow... Fingers criss cross like mad now. Oh im transferring in Jul coz i want to tiao my body more, and lose some weight haha. i read in one of the online studies that IVF implantation chances are significantly higher for patients who lost weight in the process of the study. Actually a lot of readings and school of thoughts online.. just try my best to follow and put in my best, and hope for the best.


very sorry to hear that :( . I was on antagonistic, which is a in between of long and short protocol. But this round after monitoring, my gynae decided to increase injection of 2 new drugs, Saizen and Pergoveris, besides Gonal F and Centrotide. Jiayou dreamscometrue.. most important thing is to rest well now, tiao your body, and join this fight again with rest of us! lots of hugs x
Ah.. I'm thinking of asking for pergo next fresh.. How u find the addition of those two drugs? Better yield? I heard saizen is very ex?
 
Which Tcm are u with? After taking her meds u really got more blood flowing out?
I'm seeing Dr Lim Sor San at Time Enterprise TCM located in Aperia. Weird name for a TCM right? I'm not sure if it's the effect of her meds or not since I have no comparison. I did have a lot of blood clots coming out on day 1 and 2 of my menses after I stop norethisterone. One lady shared with me that her flow was heavier after taking norethisterone, so I was prepared for it. Anyway, my tcm specialises in confinement and seems to know IVF well. More importantly, I'm more comfortable with her and it's easy to get an appointment.
 
I'm seeing Dr Lim Sor San at Time Enterprise TCM located in Aperia. Weird name for a TCM right? I'm not sure if it's the effect of her meds or not since I have no comparison. I did have a lot of blood clots coming out on day 1 and 2 of my menses after I stop norethisterone. One lady shared with me that her flow was heavier after taking norethisterone, so I was prepared for it. Anyway, my tcm specialises in confinement and seems to know IVF well. More importantly, I'm more comfortable with her and it's easy to get an appointment.
Oh.. My doc didn't give me norethisterone lei
 
@Mrs Chan00 u r always so kind and sweet. U are also going for yr FET next mth hor? We can be cycle buddies leh. Hehe. Will u be going for Natural or Medicated FET?
Marshmallow_BB...
@Mrs Chan00 u r always so kind and sweet. U are also going for yr FET next mth hor? We can be cycle buddies leh. Hehe. Will u be going for Natural or Medicated FET?
Yup... going for FET in may too!:) will be gg for my 1st scan this coming Friday... FET should be next week if everything goes well.
My doctor ordered natural... coz he say my menses is regular.. but I got short cycle... some month only 25 or 26 days... abit worry but my doctor say it is ok to do natural FET..
 
Marshmallow_BB...

Yup... going for FET in may too!:) will be gg for my 1st scan this coming Friday... FET should be next week if everything goes well.
My doctor ordered natural... coz he say my menses is regular.. but I got short cycle... some month only 25 or 26 days... abit worry but my doctor say it is ok to do natural FET..

@Mrs Chan00 I am also doing a Natural cycle FET juz like u. Any idea how does the whole process work for Natural FET? It's my first time embarking on this. Hee hee. How many embies will u be transferring this time round? :)
 
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Dear sisters

I would like to seek some advices regarding supplements on coQ10.

I will be doing my first fresh ivf on 29 May at NUH under Dr Stephen Chew. I have purchased some supplements from NUH for folic acid, MD3 tablets, CoQ10 for 30mg. The CoQ10 costs $110 which is very costly for me. Dr Chew want me to take the CoQ10 for 400mg daily and the one I purchased from NUH is only 30mg which mean I have to take at least 10 tablets daily. I have sourced few of them from 100mg to 150mg from pharmacies and need advice which brands are the right choice. Thank you.
 

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Ah.. I'm thinking of asking for pergo next fresh.. How u find the addition of those two drugs? Better yield? I heard saizen is very ex?

I did 4 scans in total to monitor the growth of the follicles, the growth chart is much faster than last cycle. Numbers wise, slightly lesser at extraction compared to my last cycle, but more were fertilised. Overall, I feel it's a better yield. In my opinion, all IVF drugs are expensive :( Saizen is $230 per vial.. I was prescribed 2 vials for my 13 day injections (1 vial can last about 10 days).
 
Marshmallow_BB...

Yup... going for FET in may too!:) will be gg for my 1st scan this coming Friday... FET should be next week if everything goes well.
My doctor ordered natural... coz he say my menses is regular.. but I got short cycle... some month only 25 or 26 days... abit worry but my doctor say it is ok to do natural FET..

MrsChan, all the best and lots and lots of luck and stickiness for the embies!!
 
I did 4 scans in total to monitor the growth of the follicles, the growth chart is much faster than last cycle. Numbers wise, slightly lesser at extraction compared to my last cycle, but more were fertilised. Overall, I feel it's a better yield. In my opinion, all IVF drugs are expensive :( Saizen is $230 per vial.. I was prescribed 2 vials for my 13 day injections (1 vial can last about 10 days).
I see, do u still remember the dosage of the Gonal f and pergo u were on?
 
Dear sisters

I would like to seek some advices regarding supplements on coQ10.

I will be doing my first fresh ivf on 29 May at NUH under Dr Stephen Chew. I have purchased some supplements from NUH for folic acid, MD3 tablets, CoQ10 for 30mg. The CoQ10 costs $110 which is very costly for me. Dr Chew want me to take the CoQ10 for 400mg daily and the one I purchased from NUH is only 30mg which mean I have to take at least 10 tablets daily. I have sourced few of them from 100mg to 150mg from pharmacies and need advice which brands are the right choice. Thank you.
Hi Elsieho, before and during my Ivf days, my hubby and I were taking 300mg daily. He bought Healthy Origins brand CoQ10, Kaneka Ubiquinol form, 300mg softgel, from iHerb. They also supply in 100mg, 200mg and 400mg softgel. We prefer Ubiquinol form but it's cheaper to buy the ubiquinone form.
After I bfp, I stopped taking at advice of doc while hubby switched to 100mg daily. After delivery, I intend to continue 100mg daily as it's antioxidant for general health.
It's convenient and cheaper to order from iHerb online, and they deliver within 1-1.5wks.

100mg, 150 softgels at S$88.60
http://sg.m.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Ubiquinol-100-mg-150-Softgels/12109

Above link is for Ubiquinol form, 150 softgels of 100mg each. You can search for other dosage or bottle size.
 
Hi Elsieho, before and during my Ivf days, my hubby and I were taking 300mg daily. He bought Healthy Origins brand CoQ10, Kaneka Ubiquinol form, 300mg softgel, from iHerb. They also supply in 100mg, 200mg and 400mg softgel. We prefer Ubiquinol form but it's cheaper to buy the ubiquinone form.
After I bfp, I stopped taking at advice of doc while hubby switched to 100mg daily. After delivery, I intend to continue 100mg daily as it's antioxidant for general health.
It's convenient and cheaper to order from iHerb online, and they deliver within 1-1.5wks.

100mg, 150 softgels at S$88.60
http://sg.m.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Ubiquinol-100-mg-150-Softgels/12109

Above link is for Ubiquinol form, 150 softgels of 100mg each. You can search for other dosage or bottle size.
Thanks much, will research on it .
 
Hi Elsieho, before and during my Ivf days, my hubby and I were taking 300mg daily. He bought Healthy Origins brand CoQ10, Kaneka Ubiquinol form, 300mg softgel, from iHerb. They also supply in 100mg, 200mg and 400mg softgel. We prefer Ubiquinol form but it's cheaper to buy the ubiquinone form.
After I bfp, I stopped taking at advice of doc while hubby switched to 100mg daily. After delivery, I intend to continue 100mg daily as it's antioxidant for general health.
It's convenient and cheaper to order from iHerb online, and they deliver within 1-1.5wks.

100mg, 150 softgels at S$88.60
http://sg.m.iherb.com/Healthy-Origins-Ubiquinol-100-mg-150-Softgels/12109

Above link is for Ubiquinol form, 150 softgels of 100mg each. You can search for other dosage or bottle size.
Hi, how do u guys decide on the dosage? Is it advice by doc as well?
 



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