(2014/08) August 2014

waiwish said:
Hi Jo Lin, how old are you? NT2.3mm to me is amazing, yet it returns with 1:13 risk ratio.

With my NT3.3mm, I am preparing for risk ratio of 1:5 at best. I am truly preparing myself for the worse, and having said that, I am lost as to what next....I held some hope for blood test result next monday but after researching pretty intensively, all points to negativity. I need to really wake up and start considering options.........
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Hi Waiwish, I'm 37 this year. I am also thinking abt other options aredi. Hope for the best, plan for the worst
 


Jo Lin said:
Hi Waiwish, I'm 37 this year. I am also thinking abt other options aredi. Hope for the best, plan for the worst
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I like to keep the baby come what may, and I know I will love him/her all the same, in all shapes, sizes and states. However, I've been thinking long and hard about the child's survival, the child's position in society, the child's opportunities (we have to admit this is still a very material world), the child's growth path....and most importantly, my hubs and I will pass on one day leaving the child to fend for himself/herself. Will the child have the ability to do all that? How does society provide for him in terms of placement and fair opportunities? Am I being responsible by ignoring all these factors just to satisfy my own selfish desire in wanting a child in my arm??

So many considerations...I also question why would God gives only to take away and if He gives in this manner, should I intervene?

I may be thinking far ahead, but I need to responsible for what I bring to this world.

I'm pretty sure my risk ratio will be 1:5 at best, and to prepare for 1:2 given that I am 38yrs old.
 
Waiwish, Didy and Jolin, a big hugs to u ladies.
Will continue to uphold u ladies in prayer and ask God to give u and ur hubby peace while u wait for the result.
May ur babies continue to grow healthily and continue to be safe in your wombs.
 
waiwish said:
I have deep concerns coz i am 38 this year, with 3 miscarriages last yr. In fact, the current pregancy is an amazing miracle from above, given that it was not planned and I have yet to start another cycle of menses after my D&C. First two miscarriages were really early in its stage. First one was at 5 weeks, natural passing. Second one was very low HCG to being with, yet to see anything on scan even, not even sac and then menses started a week later. So more like a chemical pregnancy but my then gynae classified as miscarriage too. Third miscarriage in Oct, already in 8 weeks when i did the D&C but sac stopped growing and it was blighted ovum. We didnt get to see even yolk sac within the gestational sac at every scan and waited till 8 weeks just to be sure tho gynae encourarged D&C much earlier.

And now with NT measuring sky high at 3.3mm, i am at total loss.

I continue to pray for His mercy and grace, and have faith that this miracle of life he has given us will continue to be blessed in His plans. I cried myself to bed last night, and it actually felt better after I let it all out. It takes time to sink in, while waiting for blood test results next Monday. The days are getting longer it seems. Come what may, I will garner strength to walk the journey in His guided ways.

bbjourney, all the very best and I trust that yours will turn out very well. The chances of high risk are very low really, I just happen to be chosen to face obstacles in my trying journey.

Beneath all that, I know I have been loved and blessed in many many ways still.
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Be strong waiwish! Jia you! God will bless you and your little one..
 
Sad to hear that a few of the ladies here have poor results. I just did my Oscar test today but will only know the result when I see my gynea next week. Keeping my fingers cross. Anyway it seems like the Oscar test is often not very accurate. Go for another test and hopefully everything will turn out fine!
 
I took the Oscar test 2 days before CNY and came back igh risk for trisomy 13 ... Had a bad CNY and feeling very dejected. Went for CVS last week which was freaking painful... The 14 days waiting time to receiving the results is indeed a long wait... :(
 
waiwish said:
I like to keep the baby come what may, and I know I will love him/her all the same, in all shapes, sizes and states. However, I've been thinking long and hard about the child's survival, the child's position in society, the child's opportunities (we have to admit this is still a very material world), the child's growth path....and most importantly, my hubs and I will pass on one day leaving the child to fend for himself/herself. Will the child have the ability to do all that? How does society provide for him in terms of placement and fair opportunities? Am I being responsible by ignoring all these factors just to satisfy my own selfish desire in wanting a child in my arm??

So many considerations...I also question why would God gives only to take away and if He gives in this manner, should I intervene?

I may be thinking far ahead, but I need to responsible for what I bring to this world.

I'm pretty sure my risk ratio will be 1:5 at best, and to prepare for 1:2 given that I am 38yrs old.
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As much as I would want to keep, I have to consider for the child's future. Society has no patience for people with special needs. The child will be ostracised by almost everyone. I can't expect my son to look after his younger sibling after I'm gone. And sadly, it costs plenty of money for special needs therapy and insurance doesn't cover. For eg. For intensive speech therapy, it costs about $6k a month. Not to mention occupational and educational therapy. All of which is necessary to try and provide basic life skills. Don't get me wrong. I'm wreck with guilt just having to consider termination. And if I have to, is my burden to carry. But at least I know the child will not suffer the cruel facts of life.
 
Jo Lin said:
As much as I would want to keep, I have to consider for the child's future. Society has no patience for people with special needs. The child will be ostracised by almost everyone. I can't expect my son to look after his younger sibling after I'm gone. And sadly, it costs plenty of money for special needs therapy and insurance doesn't cover. For eg. For intensive speech therapy, it costs about $6k a month. Not to mention occupational and educational therapy. All of which is necessary to try and provide basic life skills. Don't get me wrong. I'm wreck with guilt just having to consider termination. And if I have to, is my burden to carry. But at least I know the child will not suffer the cruel facts of life.
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Hi Jo Lin

No parents will want to give up on their child but give the best. Your decision shall not carry guilt as you know this decision is the best for your child. Big Hugs
 
Thank you Didy for keeping spirits up. We shall all learn to keep positive as long as no affirmation is made.

Hi Jo Lin, we are very much on the save cognitive platform. Pray this step will not be needed.

Our God is a healing God, and I continue to pray for his mercy and grace.
 
waiwish said:
Thank you Didy for keeping spirits up. We shall all learn to keep positive as long as no affirmation is made.

Hi Jo Lin, we are very much on the save cognitive platform. Pray this step will not be needed.

Our God is a healing God, and I continue to pray for his mercy and grace.
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Amen! All things are possible with our God. Will continue to pray for the ladies. Be rested in His sovereignty! Jia you!
 
Sorry to hear about all the negative results ladies. My prayers are with you.
Everything will be okay as long as we think positively.
 
I went for second opinion with my previous gynae (Dr S F Loh) at TMC, and the NT measurement is still the same. He suggested to dump oscar test altogether saying with NT at 3.3mm coupled with my age, oscar test will return with bad results. No point doing that. Just go straight to harmony test which is non invasive. So i did harmony test yesterday, praying results will allow me to carry the little one to full term healthily.

Next 2-3 weeks will be agonising but I will cast my anxieties to the Lord and pray for his miracle of life to continue in me healthily. It is tough, as I prepare myself for the worse.

I went onto the thread on mid term pregnancy termination in this forum, and read how some ladies had to induce labour and give birth to babies that were still kicking...and i could only cry while reading their stories. I could almost feel the pain just reading their stories...
 
waiwish, I feel you as I read your post.
This morning, I rem u ladies in my prayer and I have asked God to help the little ones grow as He has blessed your wombs.
I know how this little one mean so much to you since you have already come a long way from miscarriages to conception finally.

I would like to encourage you to be strong and hold firm to God's promises to you. This is a crucial time as the evil one will steal away your thoughts and make you sway in faith. But in times like this, be strong and courageous. Put on the full armour of God and remain strong in faith. Continue to pray with the little one.

The little one feels you too and he/she is also trying very hard. So mummy, you must jia you too!
*Hugs*
 
Be positive and believe in your god and believe there will bw miracles. I also did harmony for my age and oscar. I think if anything bad turns out, just have to decide to keep or terminate. If somerhing bad turns out for me, my hubby and I decided to terminate. Reason is b/c the society we live in is not conducive to raise a different type of child. And in the short term we are not thinking of migrating. Plus at our age, I am afraid the child may not be well taken care of when we are gone.
 
hopemiracle30 said:
waiwish, I feel you as I read your post.
This morning, I rem u ladies in my prayer and I have asked God to help the little ones grow as He has blessed your wombs.
I know how this little one mean so much to you since you have already come a long way from miscarriages to conception finally.

I would like to encourage you to be strong and hold firm to God's promises to you. This is a crucial time as the evil one will steal away your thoughts and make you sway in faith. But in times like this, be strong and courageous. Put on the full armour of God and remain strong in faith. Continue to pray with the little one.

The little one feels you too and he/she is also trying very hard. So mummy, you must jia you too!
*Hugs*
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Your post made me teared. Thank you so much for remembering us in your prayers and greatly appreciate the encouragement. Yes, I've started talking to the little one, telling my little life to stay strong and grow healthy. And how papa and mama love this life and look forward to carrying him/her come Aug, in our arms. I even told the baby that he/she has many cousins waiting for her including one cute little che che (my baby niece turning 2 in May) she must definitely meet.

And I continue to pray for God's mercy and grace. He has blessed us with this miracle, like you have put it from miscarriages to conception, and I trust that he has great plans ahead.

Really thankful for having everyone here to share my anxieties with, to hear your encouragement and receive your blessings. Thank you!!!
 
I got my oscar results back, Dr called personally.

Said high risk for downs (T21), low risk for trisomy 13 & 18. Risk ratio 1:50.
I asked if he had seen anyone with this ratio and went on to deliver healthy babies, he said don't take the risk. And stressed that my results are indeed high risk. Proposed to do either harmony or amnio test.

I've done my Harmony test ytd while seeking second opinion, waiting for results in 2-3 weeks. Prayers continue....
 
waiwish said:
I got my oscar results back, Dr called personally.

Said high risk for downs (T21), low risk for trisomy 13 & 18. Risk ratio 1:50.
I asked if he had seen anyone with this ratio and went on to deliver healthy babies, he said don't take the risk. And stressed that my results are indeed high risk. Proposed to do either harmony or amnio test.

I've done my Harmony test ytd while seeking second opinion, waiting for results in 2-3 weeks. Prayers continue....
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Hi dear, we will continue to pray for u and ur hubby.
Meanwhile, dun think too much. You have already done what is needed and now leave the results to the hands of our Lord.
*hug hug*
 
Hi Waiwish,

Just to encourage you, a fren of mine (aged 37) also had not good Oscar results. I don't have details as didn't probe, but she did a Harmony test to check and it was ok.

Oscar is only 80% accurate, praying for you that Harmony will show otherwise. Hold on to God, jia you!
 
waiwish said:
I got my oscar results back, Dr called personally.

Said high risk for downs (T21), low risk for trisomy 13 & 18. Risk ratio 1:50.
I asked if he had seen anyone with this ratio and went on to deliver healthy babies, he said don't take the risk. And stressed that my results are indeed high risk. Proposed to do either harmony or amnio test.

I've done my Harmony test ytd while seeking second opinion, waiting for results in 2-3 weeks. Prayers continue....
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Hi Waiwish, I dun understand why 1:50 is high risk... perhaps seek 2nd opinion?
 
Hi Jo Lin, I'm 38 this year and according to my dr, the std at my age should be 1:250.

You dun reckon 1:50 is high risk?

I've sought second opinion yesterday before receiving my blood test results, and likewise the gyane said with my NT measuring 3.3mm, forget about the blood test coz it will not be good. He was so confident, that is why we proceeded with Harmony test yesterday.
 
Hello everyone,

I just received my Oscar result last week.
As I thought everything will be fine, I went for the NT scan and receive the result all by myself.
Everything seems fine for the NT scan, I can see my baby's form and movement. I was so happy to see my baby seemingly dancing in my tummy.
But nothing prepares me for the news when the doc told me that my blood test result put my baby in high risk for down syndrome.

This is my 1st pregnancy after trying for 7 years and I was totally not prepared for the news.
I was devastated and I was alone receiving the news.
I held back my tears, listening to this consultant explaining to me the options that I can go for.
I was not able to make the decision myself alone, so I called my hubby.
My hubby was surprisingly calm at the news and very assuring. He opt for the harmony test as he doesn't want to risk the miscarriage for the invasive test.
I was a total wreck for that day, couldn't do anything.. just crying non-stop.
It's not good for my baby.. I know..

The next day, I braced myself to do more research regarding Oscar results and where I can seek a 2nd opinion.
I was more hopeful after all the research. While still worried, I am praying very hard that the Harmony test will come back fine.
I am also going for the genetic scan by Dr Anandakumar @ Camden Medical.

It's a 2 weeks wait for the Harmony results and appt with Dr Anadakumar.
Meanwhile, I just continue to talk to my baby and be strong together with mommy.

For all the mummys who are experiencing this tough period, let's stay strong and pray for the best!
 
xlxin said:
Hello everyone,

I just received my Oscar result last week.
As I thought everything will be fine, I went for the NT scan and receive the result all by myself.
Everything seems fine for the NT scan, I can see my baby's form and movement. I was so happy to see my baby seemingly dancing in my tummy.
But nothing prepares me for the news when the doc told me that my blood test result put my baby in high risk for down syndrome.

This is my 1st pregnancy after trying for 7 years and I was totally not prepared for the news.
I was devastated and I was alone receiving the news.
I held back my tears, listening to this consultant explaining to me the options that I can go for.
I was not able to make the decision myself alone, so I called my hubby.
My hubby was surprisingly calm at the news and very assuring. He opt for the harmony test as he doesn't want to risk the miscarriage for the invasive test.
I was a total wreck for that day, couldn't do anything.. just crying non-stop.
It's not good for my baby.. I know..

The next day, I braced myself to do more research regarding Oscar results and where I can seek a 2nd opinion.
I was more hopeful after all the research. While still worried, I am praying very hard that the Harmony test will come back fine.
I am also going for the genetic scan by Dr Anandakumar @ Camden Medical.

It's a 2 weeks wait for the Harmony results and appt with Dr Anadakumar.
Meanwhile, I just continue to talk to my baby and be strong together with mommy.

For all the mummys who are experiencing this tough period, let's stay strong and pray for the best!
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JIAYOU ALL MUMMIES!!! <3 SENDING LOVE ~~~ <3
 
Hi all, I am a mommy who did my oscar and harmony test as I m abv 35 yrs old. I just met my gynae today and my harmony results returned as low risk and i m having a baby boy! Continue to hope for the better mommies.
Many of the mommies probably is only seeing a gynae but I am seeing a urologist too. Today my urologist told me I may need to do an invasive surgery under ga to remove my kidney stone 2 months after I delivered my baby. I am scared of cos but I think it is necessary for long term good. Overall I am taking it quite well.
 
Im 36 this year and received my oscar results when i went for my weekly jab. The nurse told me im low risk but will be meeting my gynea to review my results next week. So far the only concern is that i have a small blood clot on my placenta and the number of fibriods increased after i got pregnant. Will ask the gynea about it when i see her next week. I have already book an appointment for genetic test few weeks ago. I will just go ahead with my appointment.
 
Hi all, congratulations on your pregnancies : )

Am at 14 weeks (due 19 Aug as at our last scan) and decided to check out the forums because we are first-time parents and really quite clueless about shopping and caring for a newborn, so hoping I'll be able to get some helpful tips here from the experienced mummies!

I'm going to an ob-gyn I'm comfortable with (took up a package) and booked a confinement lady for 2 months -- I guess that's the basic? Has anyone started serious buying yet? Am hoping to find out the gender at the next scan so that I can start SHOPPING...
 
Let pray all our oscar test will turn out fine. My Gynae will talk to me further on next appt. He mention to early for me to test till 4 mths .... I am on slightly high side ....
 
Hi mummies my name is kaemii n 36tis yr wiz a no 2. 1st is 2yo gal.. juz got oscar result last couple days n my result all ok except ttrisomy. Me in 13wks nw.. I op for amnio test on 4 of mar. But 25 feb go kkh do nt for baby.

my gf did harmony but she said the result not so gd in e end she did amnio n all goes well. However i am quite curious by that details scans aome mummies did above at camden med centre. Hq diff is that compare to our 20thwk scan?
 
limsbaby said:
Hi mummies my name is kaemii n 36tis yr wiz a no 2. 1st is 2yo gal.. juz got oscar result last couple days n my result all ok except ttrisomy. Me in 13wks nw.. I op for amnio test on 4 of mar. But 25 feb go kkh do nt for baby.

my gf did harmony but she said the result not so gd in e end she did amnio n all goes well. However i am quite curious by that details scans aome mummies did above at camden med centre. Hq diff is that compare to our 20thwk scan?
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I'm going for my amniocentesis on the 4th of March too. At tmc.

Isn't the NT scan part of the oscar test? 20th week scan is a detailed scan where they look in detail at the heart. Harmony is a blood test that gives you a more detailed probability of downs. As for amniocentesis, it gives you a definite "yes" or "no" on whether the baby has downs. The downside of amniocentesis is there's a risk of miscarriage and takes 2 weeks for the results as they will take the amniotic fluid and grow the full set of dna for counting. we have 46 counts. Downs baby has either 45 or 47.
 
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Hi Mummies,
I'm new to this forum but have been a silent reader as I want to wait for my CVS results before joining.
Have done CVS test for my past 2 pregnancies too as both my hubby and I are alpha-thalassemia minor.
This would be my 3rd kid and would be expecting a boy :)

Jiayou for all the mummies here!
 
Hi mummies, I have just returned from Prof Ananda's clinic. He gave me good news, as he said he has found no physical abnormalities in my baby. my risk has reduced from 1:428 (from oscar test) to 1:1019 (from genetic scan with prof ananda). so hubby and I decided to let matter rest here and not proceed with amnio test. it is really a huge relief. and seriously, prof ananda is the most professional and expert one i have seen before. he did measurements which i have not seen any gynae or sonographist do before. mummies who need 2nd opinion, i highly highly recommend him.

oh prof ananda gave me a bonus as well. he scanned and showed us that we are carrying a girl!! :)

i wish all mummies here good luck. thank you for keeping me in your prayers, and i will continue to pray for you and your little one as well. most importantly, please keep positive.
 
Didy said:
Hi mummies, I have just returned from Prof Ananda's clinic. He gave me good news, as he said he has found no physical abnormalities in my baby. my risk has reduced from 1:428 (from oscar test) to 1:1019 (from genetic scan with prof ananda). so hubby and I decided to let matter rest here and not proceed with amnio test. it is really a huge relief. and seriously, prof ananda is the most professional and expert one i have seen before. he did measurements which i have not seen any gynae or sonographist do before. mummies who need 2nd opinion, i highly highly recommend him.

oh prof ananda gave me a bonus as well. he scanned and showed us that we are carrying a girl!! :)

i wish all mummies here good luck. thank you for keeping me in your prayers, and i will continue to pray for you and your little one as well. most importantly, please keep positive.
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Hi Didy,

That's indeed good news!! Congrats! =)
 
Didy said:
Hi mummies, I have just returned from Prof Ananda's clinic. He gave me good news, as he said he has found no physical abnormalities in my baby. my risk has reduced from 1:428 (from oscar test) to 1:1019 (from genetic scan with prof ananda). so hubby and I decided to let matter rest here and not proceed with amnio test. it is really a huge relief. and seriously, prof ananda is the most professional and expert one i have seen before. he did measurements which i have not seen any gynae or sonographist do before. mummies who need 2nd opinion, i highly highly recommend him.

oh prof ananda gave me a bonus as well. he scanned and showed us that we are carrying a girl!! :)

i wish all mummies here good luck. thank you for keeping me in your prayers, and i will continue to pray for you and your little one as well. most importantly, please keep positive.
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Congrats Didy!! That's great news. You can now enjoy the journey and look forward to carrying the sweetest baby girl in your arm come Aug!

I'm looking forward to my scan this Friday. And pray things will look brighter after the scan.

How far along are you now?
 

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