Thanks vm!
Thanks vm!
I don't mean to ask silly questions. Sorry ladies. I apologise because that was what shared with me. I will exit this group. Have a good day ladies.
Sigh.. I think there are many ignorant ppl out there. Don't be hurt by their remarks. I'm lucky to have very supportive friends and family. And you know what? They think IVF babies are actually smarter Coz they are specially picked from the best egg and sperm! And I do feel my first born (conceived thru IVF too) is quite intelligent and I am so proud of himI agree with you. It's quite a lonely journey when people around you are not understanding enough. I sounded my parents out before I did my first IVF and as traditional parents, they also don't understand why need to do IVF. So I actually didn't share with them at all and went ahead quietly. And when I gave birth to my firstborn, I actually banked his cord blood cos I was afraid that being a IVF baby he may not be as healthy as those who were conceived naturally (see, I have been influenced by the same mentality as those disapproving people) plus it was a popular thing to do. When a friend gave birth to her first child, I actually asked her if she has intention to do bank her child's cord blood cos I could refer her. She replied to say "Don't think so since mine is not through IVF". Her response really hurt me deeply as though my child is some alien just because he was conceived with help.
It's really a tough journey so I hope we continue to encourage one another because only we know what one another is going through. Jia you and baby dust to you @DawnBB .
Sorry ladies, maybe because i haven't shared my background. I have 2 boys already and nurse for 8 years until my breast has some issues. Have a good day ladies! So Sorry everyone. Didn't mean to be insensitive. I miscarriage twice after my 2 kids trying for third...and asked my gynae about IVF. she said gender can be determine by XY sperms. That's why i was asking... Have a good day!
My wife is not with any hospital. She's with Sincere IVF Center - Prof Ng Soon Chye.
Don't worry, don't have to exit - this is a support group where we see how best we can help one another. Since we know you are not here to pull pranks (from the way you put your sentences so casually, it gave us the impression) yeah, so in , we cannot choose the gender.Sorry ladies, maybe because i haven't shared my background. I have 2 boys already and nurse for 8 years until my breast has some issues. Have a good day ladies! So Sorry everyone. Didn't mean to be insensitive. I miscarriage twice after my 2 kids trying for third...and asked my gynae about IVF. she said gender can be determine by XY sperms. That's why i was asking... Have a good day!
Yeah, I think it's not a good idea to share that the kids are via IVF as it may create probs - the older folks & ignorant peeps may think that they are weaker and worst if the kids may think they r different just becos they are via IVFI agree with you. It's quite a lonely journey when people around you are not understanding enough. I sounded my parents out before I did my first IVF and as traditional parents, they also don't understand why need to do IVF. So I actually didn't share with them at all and went ahead quietly. And when I gave birth to my firstborn, I actually banked his cord blood cos I was afraid that being a IVF baby he may not be as healthy as those who were conceived naturally (see, I have been influenced by the same mentality as those disapproving people) plus it was a popular thing to do. When a friend gave birth to her first child, I actually asked her if she has intention to do bank her child's cord blood cos I could refer her. She replied to say "Don't think so since mine is not through IVF". Her response really hurt me deeply as though my child is some alien just because he was conceived with help.
It's really a tough journey so I hope we continue to encourage one another because only we know what one another is going through. Jia you and baby dust to you @DawnBB .
Hi the_spinsterella, I totally agreed wif u...thumbs up to u. 'How a child behaves is from the upbringing from their parents, not how a child is conceived.'I don't think you read our thread. If you do, you would know how precious a child is to us here and we definitely wouldn't choose a boob job over a precious child. And that question! Why do you have to label them 'ivf kids'? It sounds like an insult. Children from IVF still come from egg and sperm. They are the same as other children. How a child behaves is from upbringing, not how a child is conceived!
Are you taking prenatals or folic acid? My Dr told me to start on Folic acid before my IVF.
Sure, after dawnbb use it I'll pass to you. Actually the CD is for downregulation, stimming and post ET.
Do you mean hcg for pregnancy test?
DawnBB, are u referring to the HCG or Beta reading ?
My dr did not do any progesterone BT at all for my FET. However, I was asked to come for the PIO shot 3 times in the 2 weeks after ET. This is on top of twice daily crinone.
I am only taking folic acid ley...take more healthy natural food like fish and veggie? should help better...
This time round, i jab myself. less stress wor...the previous cycle, my hub jabbed me and aiyo, it was so damn messy..
Hi ladies, Did a a Beta HCG on Monday and today, it is BFP of 160 & 320 respectively despite of my earlier posts regarding having bleeding & abdominal cramps. I couldn't believe my ears and was vey much not convinced of the results until I went down to the clinic to see the results. Need to be on proluton & pregnyl injections twice per week each on top of the crinone insertion, duphaston,folic acid & Multivitamins consumption.
Spreading my baby dust to all ladies !
Sigh.. I think there are many ignorant ppl out there. Don't be hurt by their remarks. I'm lucky to have very supportive friends and family. And you know what? They think IVF babies are actually smarter Coz they are specially picked from the best egg and sperm! And I do feel my first born (conceived thru IVF too) is quite intelligent and I am so proud of him
I agree with you. It's quite a lonely journey when people around you are not understanding enough. I sounded my parents out before I did my first IVF and as traditional parents, they also don't understand why need to do IVF. So I actually didn't share with them at all and went ahead quietly. And when I gave birth to my firstborn, I actually banked his cord blood cos I was afraid that being a IVF baby he may not be as healthy as those who were conceived naturally (see, I have been influenced by the same mentality as those disapproving people) plus it was a popular thing to do. When a friend gave birth to her first child, I actually asked her if she has intention to do bank her child's cord blood cos I could refer her. She replied to say "Don't think so since mine is not through IVF". Her response really hurt me deeply as though my child is some alien just because he was conceived with help.
It's really a tough journey so I hope we continue to encourage one another because only we know what one another is going through. Jia you and baby dust to you @DawnBB .
Wow, did we all just got trolled?!
Thank you DawnBB, Towkayneo,Jas249,FaithBB, dramaqueenie,twinkle tot & babyluck for your wishes. Really hope my pregnancy journey will be a smooth one... May the baby dust catch all of the ladies TTC-ingHi et2180. Congratulations!! Grabbing your baby dust
Take care and I wish you all goes super well and have a smooth sailing prig journey. Hugs
I have the same thots as u gals. Ivf babies are so precious. But when we first told my mil abt my bfp, she asked Isit natural? My whole mind went blank. My hub just said yes. Din want to elaborate more. Totally dun understand the relevance of her qn. My mum on the other hand was sooo thrilled that we finally succeeded. Who cares whether it's ivf or not right! Ivf babies will never be inferior in any way!!!
Anyway I wanted to share my ivf journey with u gals as well. I only succeeded at my 5th try. Did 3 fresh n only made it at my 2nd frozen. For my failed cycles I tried almost everything. Endo scratching, intralipid infusion, dr zou tcm med & acu, tcm tsb, blastocyst. Ate pineapple core, Brazil nuts, egg white, red bean soup, chicken essence, etc.
For my bfp cycle I continued with tsb, had red date longan tea everyday, rested my legs in half a pail of warm water. Also i went bk to work the day after ET. I had bad cramps at ard 9dp2dt and thot all hopes are gone cos I had it for all my bfn cycles. I even went to the gym. Only when I missed my period then I tested with an expired stick which showed a positive! Next day immediately bot a new one with the same result. Really couldn't believe my eyes.
So ladies pls continue to try and don't give up!! We must continue to be hopeful and I believe all of us will succeed. Just a matter of time but continue trying!! I hope my story has inspired and encouraged u
I did think that we got trolled too! It seemed so cavalier, the way she went about saying those things. No offence, but if having an 'IVF kid' who is harder to handle is a deal-breaker for her, perhaps she should not even embark on this journey.
The injections, the bloatedness, the pain, the hassle, the stress from the treatment were all difficult to endure, and I could endure all these only because the pain of longing for my child is much more than that caused by the jabs. Most of us here just want a healthy child, come what may. Without undermining the pain of her miscarriages, I do not think that dolly_81 appreciated how painful it is for us to not even conceive. Anyone whose been through the same pain would be slow to resort to such insensitive comments.
Sorry, but I am taking her comments quite hard.
hi dawnbb thanks for sharing! i believe all of us feel the same way, at least for me too!
im still trying for my 1st and will be doing jabbing in Nov.
also have same issues, and confirm only option will be icsi already.
in fact, i didnt share with my parents that i will be going thru this.. and i have ignorant friends telling me ways, postures etc to strike gold and it made me more frustrated instead.
hopefully we will all have one to hug in our arms one day! the sacrifice we are going thru, only the ladies here will understand.
let's jiayou together!!!
actually it was a miscommunication. Dolly_81 wanted to know more abt ivf as she wasn't successful trying naturally. but she probably relayed the questions from many man on the street who are ignorant of ivf. I too hear myths from friends who assumed ivf kids are 'different'. but in reality I've never found ivf kids any different.@littlemonkies, hi! Don't understand what's going on with this dolly_81. Got me a bit too.
How are you getting along and has your ET been confirmed?
Hi to all sisters from KKH,
Anyone has go through Dr. Tan Tse Yuen, Dr. Sadhana or A/Prof Tan Heng Hao? What is your experience with them?
And what is the different in price for the IVF between a subsided and a private patient in KKH?
Shoot her!!! Shoot her!!!! ARGHGHGHG!!!!!That post just reminded me of an incident.
About 2 yrs ago when my 1stborn was 6 mths old, a lady (my brother-in-law's mother-in-law) casually remarked "Come i see the ivf baby. Got difference or not?" right in front of my face. Luckily my son was asleep then so i decided not to be rude and ignored her. My hubby who heard her answered, "samelah like any baby. 2 eyes 1 nose 1 mouth 2 ears"
I swore i was fuming up over tat comment. I mean how different can a baby look like right? Even if he is special in any way, he is mine.
And yes thank God, my child is just like any other boys. Active, cheeky some days, obedient some days, naughty some days. I believe all this are part of growing up no matter what gender, methods of conceiving or birth etc..
@littlemonkies, hi! Don't understand what's going on with this dolly_81. Got me a bit too.
How are you getting along and has your ET been confirmed?
You are very brave, my dear Your kids are really lucky to have you as mummy!I have the same thots as u gals. Ivf babies are so precious. But when we first told my mil abt my bfp, she asked Isit natural? My whole mind went blank. My hub just said yes. Din want to elaborate more. Totally dun understand the relevance of her qn. My mum on the other hand was sooo thrilled that we finally succeeded. Who cares whether it's ivf or not right! Ivf babies will never be inferior in any way!!!
Anyway I wanted to share my ivf journey with u gals as well. I only succeeded at my 5th try. Did 3 fresh n only made it at my 2nd frozen. For my failed cycles I tried almost everything. Endo scratching, intralipid infusion, dr zou tcm med & acu, tcm tsb, blastocyst. Ate pineapple core, Brazil nuts, egg white, red bean soup, chicken essence, etc.
For my bfp cycle I continued with tsb, had red date longan tea everyday, rested my legs in half a pail of warm water. Also i went bk to work the day after ET. I had bad cramps at ard 9dp2dt and thot all hopes are gone cos I had it for all my bfn cycles. I even went to the gym. Only when I missed my period then I tested with an expired stick which showed a positive! Next day immediately bot a new one with the same result. Really couldn't believe my eyes.
So ladies pls continue to try and don't give up!! We must continue to be hopeful and I believe all of us will succeed. Just a matter of time but continue trying!! I hope my story has inspired and encouraged u
Hi ladies, when i first read dolly_81 comments and posts, i felt angry at one point of time.Shoot her!!! Shoot her!!!! ARGHGHGHG!!!!!
Yes dearie... 24 eggs were extracted today. Now waiting for hubby's soldiers to do the job. Fight soldiers, fight!!!
It was quite sobering to hear Dr. Sadhana say that even though I have 24, the rates of fertilisation means I may only get about 10 - 11 embbies, and out of which, only 3 to 4 blastocysts. She will only proceed with blastocysts and I will only have 1 implanted inside me. Think about it... 24 eggs = 2 years natural fertility lifespan! But you know what.. if I get a baby by the end of all this pain, it's all worth it!
Hi @babymilo, you can consider getting your husband to do it for you =)Hi, can anyone share with me the link on ivf procedure pls? How do anyone overcome self jabs? Thanks.
Hi @babymilo, im sorry i dont have any link on ivf ..Hi paranoid
He is afraid of needle, do you have any link on the process? 3 failed IUI, think next will be ivf.
Hi ladies, when i first read dolly_81 comments and posts, i felt angry at one point of time.
To be honest, ivf route is not easy. Having to conquer all fears within us, be it from stimming period, to oocyte retrieval to embyro transfer..each stage takes alot of courage from each and every one of us.
Its a hurdle after another. Even after embyro transfer, we still need to worry that the beanie will stick and implant successfully. Even so, aft one gets their BFP, one still have to go worry abt maintaining the pregnancy and hope our baby is growing well n healthy in our womb...
dolly_81 comments r indeed insensitive to us who are going through the process but well..she alr apologised..
Why not get it over once and for all? Remember staying positive is one big contributing factor to our success! Let the negative energy be gone, ok?
Just saying out my thoughts...all the best to all the ladies trying to conceive! We will haf our bfp and our bb in time to come! Haf faith, stay positive! =)
Thank you dearie. All the best to you 2ww also! I'm getting so bored just staying at home waiting for the punctured wounds to heal. It's kind of painful but not as bad as what some sisters experienced - for which I thank God!Jia you! now focus on recovering your body. Since you are doing blastie transfer, you have more days to rest and recover.
Will be praying for you and your embies. Love lots
baby milo, I found the 'Infertility Channel' on YouTube very useful as a means of getting information on IVF. It's hosted by an infertility doctor called Dr. Randell Loy. You can go take a look if it suits you. However, do take note that each hospital has its own SOP and the protocols may also be adjusted according to the make-up of that specific patient. Ultimately, your doc probably the best person to give you the details. If you, like me, are undergoing IVF in KK, you can take a look at http://lavenderbaby2013.blogspot.sg. This lady is very detailed in her experience and I drew a lot of guidance from herHi paranoid
He is afraid of needle, do you have any link on the process? 3 failed IUI, think next will be ivf.
Ladies any natural ways to cure my flu n sore throat before I embark my IVF on 30sept. Seen Doc already completed the whole course of med. but don't seem to be getting better
Hi, can anyone share with me the link on ivf procedure pls? How do anyone overcome self jabs? Thanks.
Hurray! =)Ok Roger that.
Ok Dolly_81, we ladies on this board hereby declare that bygones will be bygone. You've said your piece and we've said ours. Peace to all and let's focus on baby growing!
Ladies any natural ways to cure my flu n sore throat before I embark my IVF on 30sept. Seen Doc already completed the whole course of med. but don't seem to be getting better
Hi @piglet02, haf u started yr stimms yet? Were u given antibiotics?For the jabbing part. I prefer to do it myself. Better control. Scared DH too rough n is not jabbing on them. They wouldn't feel the pain. At one stage I jab until bruises. Show to him. Make it feel my pain. Hahaha
Hurray! =)
Jiayou to you too! •~ wat stage r u at now?
Dear all, thanks for sharing your experience and advise. Yes I am scare of jabbing myself, I trying to overcome it and I have to admit is easy to say than do. But still if I want to take this forward, I have to do it. And i am working and doing in office toilet with limited time is not easy but have to have faith.
My gynae told me whether IUI or ivf, these are just method to help woman get preg. This make me overcome the thought of perusing ivf in near future. These are just methods to help woman and other than that, everything is the same.
Now then I know the Long and short cycle.
This is a journey we embrace through together on board. Jia you to all <3
Well, the nurse will make you try self-jabbing. KKH provides a step by step tutorial on how to use the puregon pen & jabs. Quite pro - thought I couldn't do it but I canHi, can anyone share with me the link on ivf procedure pls? How do anyone overcome self jabs? Thanks.
Actually, with the benefit of hindsight, I wished I had taken leave once the treatments started. This was what I wrote to myself in my own diary 'If you are going to bomb $15k on the treatment, abuse your body with all those chemicals and the needles, sacrifice years of your natural fertility lifespan, you might as well give it your best shot. That entails, I think, resting and readying the vessel which may be carrying your child for the next 9 months.'
In my case, I don't have much leave but i eventually decided to take leave from Day 10 onwards... because otherwise super disruptive for my colleagues. I realised that I was a lot less stressed and could rest more. The Puregon made me quite tired and jumpy when I was still working. Then I stressed over getting stressed.
So, sister, if you can afford to do so, take leave in the week your treatment starts ok. In any event, whenever you go back to clinic (which will be quite often once your treatment starts), you can convert your leave to medical leave because they do give MC for the scans.