IVF/ICSI Support Group

pinkdoll said:
Hi Juzkelle, congrats!! Is this your first baby?

You might want to talk to your KKH gynae first before going to pte gynae. I have just extended a week from SGH after 2WW. Not all pte gynaes are generous with HL and MC. I have heard many experiences from friends that their pte gynaes not accommodating at all. Some worse than GPs.
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Hi pinkdoll,

End up I email dr jerry chan at kkh and he extended my hospitalization leave. Really thankful. So tentatively not switching to pte. :> (thank god)

This is my first ivf actually. Been trying to conceive for the past 3.5years but always fail at implantation stage. Tried different treatment, tcm n change of lifestyle before deciding on the journey of ivf.

To those still trying or in the tww, loads of baby dust and your BFP will be with u soon!
 


juzkelle said:
Hi pinkdoll,

End up I email dr jerry chan at kkh and he extended my hospitalization leave. Really thankful. So tentatively not switching to pte. :> (thank god)

This is my first ivf actually. Been trying to conceive for the past 3.5years but always fail at implantation stage. Tried different treatment, tcm n change of lifestyle before deciding on the journey of ivf.

To those still trying or in the tww, loads of baby dust and your BFP will be with u soon!
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Dr Jerry Chan is quite ok when it comes to hl .. He has been my dr for my first baby and now also .. Don't think I will be changing coz I like his style. And since I'm expecting twins .. I think I better stick to Kkh..
 
Hello everyone, have been a silent reader all these while. I am on medicated FET and today I went for my 2nd scan, lining is only 6.1mm. Is there anything we should eat to enhance the lining? Even with increased progynova as compared to the previous failed cycle, the growth of the lining is much slower this time round. Last round had 7.7mm. This journey is really not easy and I keep telling myself not to be stressed. Doc said I might be stress hence growth is slower...
 
Faith-bb said:
Knottie,

Red bean soup is said to be good to improve lining..
Maybe you can try that..
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I took Brazil nuts and drink raspberry tea, doesn't seem to be working. End up lining worst then last time. Hope the patch that the doc give will improve over the weekend
 
knottie said:
I took Brazil nuts and drink raspberry tea, doesn't seem to be working. End up lining worst then last time. Hope the patch that the doc give will improve over the weekend
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You may try red bean soup as my lining increase and triple after drinking this...
 
Pepper pepper, I succeeded naturally not with IVF. But that time is after a failed IVF. How long u have this condition ? Do u oso have endometriosis?
 
pepper_pepper said:
Anyone has been successful of ivf with edenomyosis condition?
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Me got preggy with endo, adeno and cysts. But i miscarried at week 6 which i solely believe is due to my carelessness tho many sisters felt n commented otherwise. Anyway just be positive miracles do happen and am awaiting for another miracle to happen :)
 
Hope42014 said:
Is your follicles growing slower? Lining grow with follicle grow. You should take red dates with wolf berry tea too.
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Am on progynova, so follicles are small, it should not grow. Yes am taking red dates and wolf berries daily too. Am just thinking that perhaps all these one I couldn't conceive naturally is because my lining is not at ideal thickness that's why have to go through this ivf journey. Sigh
 
mesara said:
Me got preggy with endo, adeno and cysts. But i miscarried at week 6 which i solely believe is due to my carelessness tho many sisters felt n commented otherwise. Anyway just be positive miracles do happen and am awaiting for another miracle to happen :)
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Thank you. Its an encouragment for me :) im 3rd day into my implant.
 
hi gals.. had a good cry last night and now still very affected.
did my bt yday and hcg was only 10.1 at d16p2dt. suspected is chemical pregnancy, hopefully not ectopic.

i tested positive on d11p2dt (sunday) with multiple hpt, even cb digital is pregnant with 1-2weeks. i was cautiously happy but my grave mistake is did not go to kkh for additional support since i have no spotting at all.

who knows, the result turn out like that. still upset with myself for not doing more but soon have to pick myself up for a second try.
 
iamababydreamer said:
i guess the expectation was too high so i fall harder.

maybe i cant save it after all, just have to try harder next time.
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hugs, i know its sad, probably is nt the right time yet. everything happen for a reason. for me too, thot i prepare myself so much that thot this round will success. my hcg also dropped fr 40 to 13 n dr loh say probably chemical pregnacy! sad too!! menses come 1 wk later. so now i juz eat healthy n exercise n tiao my body (seen TSB)
i also questioned n searched y chemical pregnacy w happen n wat area did i do wrong?? sigh!!
meanwhile juz enjoy the blessings we hv w our hubby n family. sure 1 day we w be mother ok lets jia you sis
\^~^/
 
Iamababydreamer, sorry to hear this. Did u see doc regarding yr case? May not be the end. Did ur BT reading drop?

Dun be discouraged. Everyone here has struggles on our conceiving journey.

I was also depressed few days ago when I found out I had only 1 very slow growing folicle. My scan on mon will tell if can proceed or not. Mentally, I'm prepared for a cancelled cycle. Based on my case, I'm not sure if I can even conceive again. But dun give up! Pull yrself together and start over. Chances r out there if u keep trying!
 
hi, maybe ask dr for BT to schedule earlier? Mine is 11dp4dt. My dr gave me duphaston and progesterone jabs after my 1st appt when the BT is done.
Also, do monitor ur hcg level. there is still chance that the hcg level will increase. read a recent case that the hcg increased from level of 12 or 22; and hcg continues to multiply after that.
 
twinklelight said:
hi, maybe ask dr for BT to schedule earlier? Mine is 11dp4dt. My dr gave me duphaston and progesterone jabs after my 1st appt when the BT is done.
Also, do monitor ur hcg level. there is still chance that the hcg level will increase. read a recent case that the hcg increased from level of 12 or 22; and hcg continues to multiply after that.
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the nurse told me at d18 even if hcg increase it will not be a viable pregnancy, worst is ectopic. so i dare not even pin hope, juz hope wun have complication.
she ask me wait for menses to come..
 
knottie said:
Am on progynova, so follicles are small, it should not grow. Yes am taking red dates and wolf berries daily too. Am just thinking that perhaps all these one I couldn't conceive naturally is because my lining is not at ideal thickness that's why have to go through this ivf journey. Sigh
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You might want to consider acupuncture.. Cos it is suppose to increase blood flow to your uterus.
 
knottie. yes, give all those a try - acupuncture, red bean.. the patch might work (or ask the doc abt viagra, inserted not eaten) but I think in the end stress plays a big factor. I have been plagued by thin lining for my FET the last 16months. Had 5 FET attempts aborted due to thin lining. In the end I went for a full natural FET after I gave up hope & stopped stressing over it and that cycle lining went up to 8.7mm on final scan. BFN but at least I wasn't seeing the 4mm 5mm 6mm rubbish lining. That said, very difficult not to be stressed. Jia you & good luck
 
iamababydreamer said:
i guess the expectation was too high so i fall harder.

maybe i cant save it after all, just have to try harder next time.
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Hugs.. :(

The stress when doing ivf.. Thinking we do whatever we can, but still..

Though others say try not to stress, somehow still will.
Tiao ur body and the next one will be a viable and good one!

If can help u to feel better, in a way there's implantation means body is reacting well...

My last ivf in Mar, there's no implantation at all..
 
ron8129 said:
knottie. yes, give all those a try - acupuncture, red bean.. the patch might work (or ask the doc abt viagra, inserted not eaten) but I think in the end stress plays a big factor. I have been plagued by thin lining for my FET the last 16months. Had 5 FET attempts aborted due to thin lining. In the end I went for a full natural FET after I gave up hope & stopped stressing over it and that cycle lining went up to 8.7mm on final scan. BFN but at least I wasn't seeing the 4mm 5mm 6mm rubbish lining. That said, very difficult not to be stressed. Jia you & good luck
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Pm-ed you. :)
 
ron8129 said:
knottie. yes, give all those a try - acupuncture, red bean.. the patch might work (or ask the doc abt viagra, inserted not eaten) but I think in the end stress plays a big factor. I have been plagued by thin lining for my FET the last 16months. Had 5 FET attempts aborted due to thin lining. In the end I went for a full natural FET after I gave up hope & stopped stressing over it and that cycle lining went up to 8.7mm on final scan. BFN but at least I wasn't seeing the 4mm 5mm 6mm rubbish lining. That said, very difficult not to be stressed. Jia you & good luck
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Ron8129, how many days were u in the cycle before the doc suggest to abort the cycle coz it's not at the ideal min of 8mm. My fresh was at 7+mm and I had my little darling, hence in the 1st FET although the lining didn't hit the 8mm min, the doc said it is ok to proceed. tried natural before the 1st FET but lining only reached 5mm and stayed the same for one week, hence doc suggest to cancel the cycle as she feels that even if I do ovulate later, it's not a good cycle anyway. Yes keep telling myself not to be stress but I think somehow the body is reacting to it which is uncontrollable. Yes let's jia you everyone!
 
my fresh cycles were always good > 11mm without issues. so after my LO, it was a real blow to see these low lining.

Most of the attempts we scanned through d14 and a few times my lining, well, crash by ovulation date.
we had a cycle where I was at 4.5mm at d11 and we abandoned.

Try acu since you are already cycling
Who knows it may work for you. Prob too late to start tcm for this round. I am seeing a new tcm myself but TCM takes time yo work.
 
I hope to encourage everyone here not to despair. I had been trying to conceive for many years and so many times with various types of fertility treatments, but they had all failed. Previously, I tried to find comfort in my close gfs but they have never experienced any infertility issues, their support and prayers turned into pity for me every time I failed. I couldn't quite stand it anymore, and stopped talking about it with them.

I am happy to be able to participate in this wonderful community knowing that all of us here know exactly how it feels physiologically, emotionally, intellectually, perhaps spiritually to be going through ivf. I wish to encourage everyone here to keep preparing to move forward, and rely on this community for enough confidence and reassurance that we will all make it to the other side just fine.

Please stay strong.
 
knottie: yes didnt ovulate.. jusr nearing those date as my cycle quite regular. I did progynova 2x2, 2x3, 3x3, saizen, viagra, even did a low stim cycle using purgoveris. only thing didnt try was the patch. acupunture, tcm, red bean, raspberry tea, pom juice hahaha.. so much time and money wasted and nothing to show in the end :)

4.5mm was a progynova cycle.
 
ron8129 said:
knottie: yes didnt ovulate.. jusr nearing those date as my cycle quite regular. I did progynova 2x2, 2x3, 3x3, saizen, viagra, even did a low stim cycle using purgoveris. only thing didnt try was the patch. acupunture, tcm, red bean, raspberry tea, pom juice hahaha.. so much time and money wasted and nothing to show in the end :)

4.5mm was a progynova cycle.
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hihi what patch you referring to huh? how does it helps?
 
yes, now waiting to start another fresh & taking it one day at a time. It's a long journey but, hey, we are all super strong women! We may all face more hurdles than others but if don't try, then no chance.

knottie, hope the patch works and as difficult as it is, do try to find some comfort to reduce the stress. God has made plans for all of us.

happyblossom: speak to your doc abt the estrogen patch. most ladies respond well to just progynova. unless you are also finding body not responding to the progynova?

Have a good week ahead everyone :)
 
thanks to those for the encouragement given to this community. hopefully miracle will happen to those who wishes to have a healthy baby on our hands but hasnt yet to become a mummy yet. hopefully, 1 day we will fulfil our dream to become a happy mummy..pray hard n cross fingers..its just a little dream that we will be grateful n happy with
 
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@iamababydreamer, hugs, sorry to hear. Have faith that god will bless u with a.bundle of joy in bis own timing


Sisters, am actually quite depressed. Did my SIS this morn but it wasnt eventful.
Normally the procedure takes ard 30 mins to complete. Mine took ard an hr juz to try insert the tube for saline infusion becos they say my cervix very deep in. They tried 3-4 tubings of various lengths. The doc also frustrated. And the pain was pretty intense to me. I usually hv pretty high pain tolerance but literally felt like im in labour!! Lol. Then another big setback, after so much efforts n time, e doc unable to see anything much or meaningful becos my uterus was stretched elongated, sitting very high up after previous csects n e scope can only reach that far. :(

If they cant even visualize my womb, then i guess it means that we cannot even proceed w IVF. So depressing...
 
hi all, i have been reading with not much of a posting, as i am still at the early stage of ivf. i just came back from O&G, after reviewing my uterus scan and HB SA report. Doc starting off by saying my tubes look good, when i shared my HSG report i did at my pte gynae, continue to comment that DH soldiers are very good swimmers, but.......its 0 mortality. and started to ask if my DH smokes and if this is his 1st marriage or if he has made another woman pregnant before etc which was rather funny. my HB smokes 1 pack a day!!!!! but doc did analyse with us that this is very common, as it could be due to stress and also by chance, since the analysis is based on 200 soldiers when there were millions of soldiers. knowing my DH, when doc asked him to quit smoking, its like taking his life la, and he asked the doc if this is scientific proven, but of coz it is not..... i guess IVF is our choice now, but it gets complicated since i am a transplant patient, need to go through a series of medication which i need my own doctor to approve. while in the room, we could still laugh and joke, but i know he doesnt feel good, just dun wan me to feel it, and i felt like crying after walking out too. anyway we are going to embark on this, and hopefully my DH got the message that it is time for him to quit smoking, we cant talk about it as we will quarrel, i hope this really wakens him up...

anyway juz wanna rattle about it, im good.....
 
angelbaby924 said:
hi all, i have been reading with not much of a posting, as i am still at the early stage of ivf. i just came back from O&G, after reviewing my uterus scan and HB SA report. Doc starting off by saying my tubes look good, when i shared my HSG report i did at my pte gynae, continue to comment that DH soldiers are very good swimmers, but.......its 0 mortality. and started to ask if my DH smokes and if this is his 1st marriage or if he has made another woman pregnant before etc which was rather funny. my HB smokes 1 pack a day!!!!! but doc did analyse with us that this is very common, as it could be due to stress and also by chance, since the analysis is based on 200 soldiers when there were millions of soldiers. knowing my DH, when doc asked him to quit smoking, its like taking his life la, and he asked the doc if this is scientific proven, but of coz it is not..... i guess IVF is our choice now, but it gets complicated since i am a transplant patient, need to go through a series of medication which i need my own doctor to approve. while in the room, we could still laugh and joke, but i know he doesnt feel good, just dun wan me to feel it, and i felt like crying after walking out too. anyway we are going to embark on this, and hopefully my DH got the message that it is time for him to quit smoking, we cant talk about it as we will quarrel, i hope this really wakens him up...

anyway juz wanna rattle about it, im good.....
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hello angel... sometimes DH just need a little knocking from someone like a doctor rather than their loved ones to remind them about what smoking can harm... hopefully he can heel the advice... By the way, my friend who have difficulty quitting cigs for 15 yrs and finally managed to do it after reading this book Easy Way to Quit Smoking once.... You can get it from Times bookshop and see if it works for your hubby...
 
Hi sisters, anyone done long cycle in kkh b4? Just wondering, is it a standard protocol to jab lucrin for minimally 15 days before we can start stimulation? Would the ovary be over-suppressed and lining gets too thick? Abit worried as my cycle is usually quite short, last mth is 25days only. If I start lucrin today which is day 21, my af will come ard day 28 (buffer for some delay due to lucrin), I will be in day 7 of next cycle when I start stimulation. Wouldnt the lining be too thick?

Previously, I would start stimulation on day 2 of cycle. Even when I visited dr loh few wks ago, he also dun recommend to jab lucrin for so long. He say max 10days..abit scared now. Told myself to trust kkh protocol but at the same time, cant help but to worry. Any sisters have experience and success b4?
 
The men just need a gd reason to quit smoking! My hubby had been smoking for more than 15 yrs. I tried ways n means to make him quit smoking. He even used nicotine patches and sweets. HE just didn't manage to kick it... until... one day, he got a call that his dad who was Healthy had passed on in his sleep. Just the other day before this incident, his dad had askd him for the first time in his life to quit smoking.... he daunted onto him that it was his dad's last wish for him. Fr tt moment, he quitted smoking. He stopped Just like that, without any patches or other means to help him.
 
thanks for all the advice, my DH is as stubborn as a rock. he was the one who donated his kidney to me and he wasnt supposed to be smoking at all, but whatever our doc says, nothing is changing his mind. he usually listens to his parents, even they are not able to persuade him. i can only leave it to him to work things out, as i believe this report sure saddens him, he is not as optimistic as i am in character. i only hope that ivf is possible for us since i have a complicated case
 


Ur hub is gd to persevere!
When my mil passed on due to lung cancer, my hb also quit smoking like instantly but that lasted all of 3mths only then he's back to his usual smoking habits.
Same here, my hub wont attempt to even smoke fewer sticks even if it meant increasing our odds.
Can only keep my fingers crossed n prayed for miracles
 
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