What this means? sms from prostitute

Maybe 1 dAY, the ladies should go and visit gigolo and teach the men a lesson.
Y can a man go stray and blame the woman or just a sorry will do ?
Thats not fair at all !
 


this is a good one kungfu.ger! Agree that men can never be trusted, no matter what he said. We,women, must always save $$ and be more independent. When all things fall, we still can stand by our own
 
i didn't know what MILF meant till read this thread. sigh... why so many men still need to play around after having a family?!
 
The site is really an eye opener..U can really read the inner tots no matter how decent they seem to be.
Nwadays there's all sort of actitivities, group swinging, sugar daddies, sugar babes, fatty pros, local pros etc
All sort..
 
Sigh. I believe more women will thrive to cut off their hubs' penis soon. Heeee. Check out laksaboy forum. Similar to sammyboy. Utterly disgusting! If only things happen the other way round.
 
Sigh, Singapore is really sin city huh?! How to keep hubbys' heart? or rather how to keep their other head in check?
 
May I ask the question, why nobody reported this to the police?

Can we not forward this disgusting link to the Ministry of Home Affairs website and let them know that some slutty women are soliciting sex online and its in Singapore.

Solicitating sex online is illegal.

What are your views?
 
I agree with souless! If she is doing this so openly, she really do deserve to be punished, and perhaps this will also prevent the other younger and more naive girls to continue doing this... and for the men as well!
 
If ladies here seriously wana bring these websites down. Stop complaining n do something abt it.

We need to be heard rather than complain in this forum.

I have written to MDA no good response and very lame.

More heads are better than one. But nobody bother.
 
It is hard to bring those websites down, there will always be new ones coming up. If MDA can do something abt it, they would done it long ago. Those websites are using US servers, can MDA stop these websites from running? It would be easier to control if it is using local servers. The people who set up these websites would hv known that it is not easy to shut down websites using overseas servers.

Wives, u hv to be proactive to stop yr hubby from visiting these websites cos it is a threat to yr marriage. Do not be complacent and hope these websites will be banned, the fate of yr marriage lies in yr hands. You either make it by taking action calmly with planning, or break it by being complacent and not doing anything abt it.
 
I do not agree its upto the wives to "look after" your men. You cannot possibly stalk your husbands what they are doing. Whilst surfing online, they will be tempted to see these websites, even if they seriously do it out of curiosity or to conform to peer pressure, they will go and visit the websites. Then they will be "open", expose to the wonderland. Men are men, they are curious like kids, if there is a chance, they may just take their chance.

No matter how their wives treat them, they will find opportunities to strike. You cannot stalk your men 24 hours, and kept trying to talk sense into them, it will not work, but deter only.

These websites are indeed operated from overseas, MDA cannot do anything about it. But the contents to the website are illegal.

I have written to MDA and posed the question to the contents of the email, and alerted the anti-vice and SPF.

MDA latest reply was that they are now leaving matter in the hands of SPF. I asked for a follow-up email, but to no avail.

You see, in Singapore, if nobody makes noise, the authorities will not take action. Our local authorities are not pro-active. If somebody, lose a life and limb, they will then sit up. Don't you all agree?

If we keep thinking that these websites are sited overseas, then you mean to say that unlicenced prostitutes who solicit business online is legal?

These contact numbers are Singapore numbers leh!

Playboy is banned in Singapore, if MDA can forbid this, why can't they clear up illegal prostitutions in Singapore online?

We are not making ourselves heard.
 
Do you think banning it will prevent other new websites from popping up? By all means, make yourselves to be heard. You would need a petition to make yrselves heard. I know our govt is not proactive at all, that's why wives hv to do their part if they know their husbands are "straying" at this websites. I am not talking abt stalking their husbands which is meaningless and a waste of time. I am talking abt dealing with marriage problems constructively. Be it seeking counsellors' advice or dealing it personally, it has to be constructive otherwise it is a waste of time. Wives need to be assertive and make a stand, and not let their husbands disrespect them. I am talking abt respect here, when husbands visits such forums, they are not respecting their wives. The husbands need to know the cause and effect of their actions on the family, which a lot of them are not aware of.

Wives needs to find the root of the problem why husbands are visiting the websites. Be it peer pressure or other causes, the problems have to be addressed. It is not abt wives taking up the problems and to solve it by themselves, it has to be solved by the husband and wife together.
 
When a man stray .... they do not need to have a reason.

Its a fact. Man will not resist women who throw themselves at them.

Such we sites will sprout out, yes. But we need to drive the message that they are illegal, and make known to the public and authorities that such websites cannot be condone.
 
Are you saying every man will stray if there is an opportunity? Not all men will stray, it is the commitment and the sense of responsibility to the family that some men still uphold. It is also the beliefs that make a man stray or not. To simply say that any man will stray if the opportunity arises, it is not objective. Why would there be no reason? There is always a reason for every action, just like in cause and effect. If a man is born in a family which the father strays and the mum just accepts it, this influences and already instil a belief in a young boy who might grow up to be like the father. He also believe that it is ok for the wife to accept it. It would be a vicious cycle for the next generation if this man's wife also tolerate the cheating which is very unhealthy. Whatever the parents does, it has a effect on a child unless the child grows up and knows how to differentiate what is right or wrong. Then this cycle would stop at this child who would not repeat the same mistake as his father.

External factors plays a part in whether a man strays but the moral values which is inculcated from young forms a strong foundation and builds the character of a man. If a man knows visiting such websites is wrong and would hurt his wife and his children, he would not do it. For those who stray, they did not think of how their wives would feel, which is the case for my husband. There are pple who do think of their family, temptations will arise and it challenges the man or woman in the marriage. That is the test of the strength of a marriage and how a couple is able to overcome all obstacles.
 
We are living in a practical world. Its idealistic to think that men do not stray on their free will. What moral values?

I have postedy my story on another thread, frankly, there is no real problem in my marriage, but my husband is tired of me after so many years of being together that he stray.

Yes, of course there are good men around but there are far from few. There is this man by the nickname Confuse. He has my respect.

I read from many marriage websites and learn that a man in a happy marriage will still stray. Moorspa, it maybe consoling that men stray because of problem but that is not the main issue here. I am on Souless side.

We cannot totally eliminate such dirty websites, but to raise them to the authorities and create awareness is the key.
 
Tai tai

How do you know there is no problem? Did you try to find out the reason why? There are many underlying issues in a broken marriage and many are emotional issues which the betrayer they themselves don't even know. Hv you wanted to find an answer and closure to yr marriage? Initially, I thought my husband has a problem and I self pity myself. As I read up more, a lot of problems in the marriages stems from emotional problems in the childhood. Emotional problems are not easy to detect, but I am glad I hv found out the problems within myself and my husband, though he would not admit it. I hv found the answer recently when god answered my prayers. It is important to me that I find the root of the problem cos I want to move on in life and not make the same mistakes in future. I want to become a better person than before.

Btw, when a man stray, he made a choice to do it. Humans are not animals, acting on instinct and without rational thinking. That's why men love to blame on their wives and use the excuses like they hv needs or they are not satisfied by their wives etc. Nobody force them to stray, they choose to do it. However, when their wives condone their actions, they lose respect for the wives and continue straying.

Like I said, by all means create awareness. It takes a lot of time, dedication and passion to create awareness. Instead of talking abt creating awareness, what are yr plans on going abt it? Just talking abt raising awareness in this forum isn't going to create a lot of awareness in Singapore. The authorities are not doing much abt it, if Juz souless and u are passionate in raising awareness to the public, you may hv to do it on yr own instead of depending on the authorities.

You can disagree with me. I do not need anyone to take sides with me. Ideally, it is best that these websites are gone for good. To be practical, I know it won't be cos of the existence of Internet. Internet has become part of our lives. It has helped people to start a small business without paying hefty rental fees in shops or mall etc, however, it has also made porn and online prostitution easily accessible. Everything has its pros and cons, it is how we adapt to it and think of ways to protect our young from the bad.
 
Moorspa

I can tell you are well-read, and you have the courage from your power of knowledge and religion to tide you through. Kudos to you.

Me on the other hand look things superficially and very directly, as compared to you. We are discussing on this issue on online sex forums/websites.

Cause and effect. I know of people of leading healthy lifestyle but still succumb to cancer. I have known people who drink and smoke and still living through their 80s. What is the cause and effect, do we delve deeply into all these. Very scientific and inconclusive most of the time.

Yes, you maybe right there are hidden emotion issues that lead most men to stray. But do you think it is easy to ask a man to come out from his "cave" and talk about it? Are we capable of dealing with them when the truth is out?

These sex forums are convenient avenues for men with problems to vent out their emotional tensions, rather than dealing with them headon and eventually walk into the tunnel leading them to eternal happiness. Men don't like to discuss to talk, they like to solve problems right infront of them with a quick solution, whether it's temporary or permanent.

These sex forums are rampant, it's true that they will not stop. But since we are aware there are laksaboy/sammyboy, some ladies here would like to "get rid" of them. If there are more that sprout out, we know about it, we try to "forbid" it. Yes, the internet is full of porn sites. But they are quite different from the sex forums. As you just watch and get a sense of satisfaction. The sex forums leaves a trail of women with local numbers for the men to contact behind the screens of their PCs.

Souless maybe "fighting a solo" war. But I admire her courage to speak out. I will not say I am passionate in eliminating these websites, but I do reserve my curiosity why they are allowed locally. I did write to the writers of ST and other local papers whenever, such websites are mentioned in their papers to enquire about such forums.

I cannot make a bang out of this, by staging a protest, getting a petition sign blah blah blah.

But instead of whining and grinding over this issue, shouldn't there be a meaningful discussion to tackle the issue? Maybe one of these days, we could write an article to ST Forum, carrying the signatures of many women who are against it, and make the authorities sit up.

That's my simple, straight-forward thinking.

Men and women emotional issues .... they are endless.
 
I do not just read, I hv experienced all these things myself. I hv been through hell, thinking of death and been in depression for a long time. Do you think I find all these answers easily? I tried all ways to find my answers, and there are times I broke down and thinking of giving up. I went through many emotional pain and years to find my answers.

As for cancer, there are many factors. Even if a healthy person who leads a healthy lifestyle but if he is not emotionally healthy, he can succumb to cancer. Healthy means physically, mentally and emotionally healthy, which is not easy to attain in today's society. I hv understood the reasons why cancer is increasing in our generation, and yes I hv read a lot on health due to my poor health cos no doctors be it western or Chinese doctor could tell me what was wrong with me. I make the effort to help myself cos I do not want to be stuck in a rut.

Cause and effect, it is up to you to delve into this things, it is the basis of understanding things at a deeper level. The knowledge you gained is priceless.

This thread was started in 2008, many hv been talking abt the sex forums, it has already created some awareness. Though Souless has made a very important point in creating awareness and bringing it up to the authorities, her efforts to create awareness are limited. She needs to bring it up to a higher level. Like what Shelley lubben has done, she created a website to create awareness on porn. She gave talks based on her experience, and it has gathered more support. Her efforts has not gone to waste, and she has helped a lot of porn stars to leave the porn industry and lead a normal life.

Recently, there are news on men engaging in prostitution with young girls. The laws prosecute the men, but what abt these young girls? Shouldn't they be punished as well? The laws itself are not fair, and will not stop these young girls from selling their body. The authorities do know abt these websites, but they do nothing abt it, even if the online prostitution is in Singapore.

Like what I mentioned earlier, create awareness either by writing a petition or using other means. It is no point saying to write to ST article one of these days, when will that day come? I hv read on people like Shelly Lubben and Barbara Loe Fisher creating awareness on different issues to the public, and I respect them very much cos they have been very proactive to create awareness. They hv been very successful in creating awareness to the public for the causes they believe in, and it takes years for them to achieve that. I admired their determination and dedication to their causes.
 
Moorspa, Taitai

Good exchanges.

But like what Taitai has rightfully point out. The issue here is not to discuss about emotional issues. The issue here is as per the title of the thread. Simple as that.

We can continue to discuss about why men do this do that, emotions got problem, wife got problem, family got problem, the list goes on. I can't solve such intimate problems or issues.

I have taken an interest on sex forums in Singapore, especially, after a string of high-level people in Singapore got involved in sex traces, sex for favour contracts. It just intrigue me. Then this forumer Khanlick came along and gave his theory on the sex forums and made me even more interested.

It's true that this thread has been around for some time. But sadly, most are just closet complainers. Nobody will dare to stick their heads out to do something about such websites.

Shamefully, I am also one of those. I have the urge to pen down my thoughts of such websites, send it to forum. But to have my name, NRIC expose ... a bit hesitant. I believe even if I finally write the article and try to garner sign-offs, where on earth am I going to get people to support me?

The westerners can set up websites to discuss and raise actions against such issues. It's their country, what is their regulations, how it will work ... I think it's quite liberal. In Singapore, sadly, who regulates such things, I don't know.

This is just about the only platform where women discuss about their problems, intimate issues, seek advice etc etc in Singapore. The two people, whom I believe are non-locals, I don't know how they got started. But would logically think that they have a string of supporters behind them to start with.

Here, who do we have? Just me, you and taitai discussing about it.

Moorspa, I am sorry if I am being too direct. No offence please. I respect you, your thoughts, your courage to walk out and live a life of your own. Not many people can do it. A woman like you, is truly courageous, have a very holistic mind. You are a woman of power with great sense of integrity.
 
Watching this thread chronologically is like watching evolution of ppl from 1 era to another
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I'm not here to debate on whether the website should be banned. Playboy was banned eons ago where there wasn't any internet, therefore any of its affiliated publicity channels, later websites are affected because obscenities / pornography materials exist in those channels related to Playboy, it was banned as a company, but not its products. Just like any other banned websites, to my knowledge, SBF didn't exist as a foreign hosted site initially, it was being shut down and shifted due to the regulations here, so I don't think that the govt has not done anything about it. Just that it is hard for our internet regulations to be enforced because this involves cross countries regulatories. If it is that easy as to write a petition and demand a shutdown, online piracy who have ended long ago. Likewise, govt cannot be spending huge revenues to chase after these sites and clamp them down and it is in the millions by today and like viruses, it's impractical and impossible to be putting an absolute control over these sites for as long as there's a demand, there'll be someone to supply.

So saying if someone effectively closed down SBF, you can't stop that same guy or his ardent fans from starting another calling it ABF / BBF / CBF whatever. Just like how terrorists able to keep operating websites for their followers.

You can't pin that they are soliciting for illegal activities either, while they do provide contact infos and even startling enough... reviews... what the heck... =.=" What evidence you have that the real activity took place? They could simply pass it off as sprouting nonsense on web. It is impossible for the local authority to be demanding website conversations from the site too, again cross country limitations.

Therefore it is really hard, unless a victim of that activity catches cold hard evidence and supply them to the authorities. It's really hard to be pinning such internet activities.

Sigh, the best solution will still be domestically derived solution, not as in country level, but home level.
 
Mr Lee

You made a very good point.

In fact, its not difficult to get cold hard evidence. As long as you sign up as a member. The pimps will PM member when new stock arrives.

Hmmmm ... maybe it will be a good idea to supply info to the local authorities.
 
Haha Juz Souless, guess my passage lit up a light bulb in you. I'm not sure if it'll work good enough to deliver any impact at all, still, if you think it could work, I guess it's better than doing nothing at all.
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SBF reported in the Straits Times before.

Unfortunately, they can't do anything about it.

SBF is one of the most successful sex forums in entire Southeast-Asia.

The founder, aka Sammy, migrated out of Singapore.

SBF has legal consultant behind them, MDA has no way to block or close the website.

Reading SBF Sex Forum/Coffeeshop is nothing wrong. In fact, you'll get first hand news.

You got to know some amazing people hiding in the forum!
 
By the way, I almost forgotten to share.

Married men MAY NOT be looking for women.

They are LOTS of married men having gay sex! Believe me or not, lots of married men enjoy having sex with men! It is extremely common now.

If your husband or boyfriend seeing men, you (as wife) should be worrying!

Please share and spread the news among your friends about this posting.
 
Evil triumps when good men do not stand up to do what they believe is right.

I'm not some high horse moralistic person, but I believe that with strategic concerted and the correct lobbying, more concretised impactful action can be done. At the very least, when the SBF "brothers" realize that one after one is getting caught and into trouble, they may realize that a lifestyle of vice behind the ease and cloak of the Internet is not that cool an idea anymore,...

Count me in for action.. Am definitely not the most capable around, but will pitch in to do what I can!
 
Nelle,

I am secretly hoping that someone or something can be done about such forums. However, like what Jolyon said that our local authorities cannot do anything about them.

I hardly think so. If I am a pimp and I send sms to my clients and provide them details of "new stocks" and I have a local contact number, can I report this to the police. I know that this doesn't surmont to an evidence, but I can still report right?

Even if it's via email, I can still forward the email to the police? Will I be so-called providing false information to the policy; obstructing the police from their usual work?

If i receive an sms from a prostitute or pimp on my HB mobile, i will forward the message to myself, take down the number and submit to the police. Similarly, I will do this if there is an incoming email.

Enough of all these crap! If you operate as a pimp, and unlicenced chickens -- this is against local law.

So dun give a f*** damn of SBF or LBF.
 
i feel that it's not the authorities cannot do anything but more on whether they want to do something or not.

Although the website is based overseas, if the anti-vice is dedicated, they would pretend as one of those in the forum and get the hp number of the pimp and prostitutes, and set up a trap to arrest them, as the pimp and prostitutes are in singapore.

After a few arrest, do u think anyone dare to post inside. It's more on the failures of the police to carry out the duty here, as they think prostitutes is a minor offence.

i u go setup another forum to exchange ideas on drug and where to get it, u will see how fast the police will takes action.
 
I caught my ex few years ago, visiting sammy forum and even asking for service from 1 of the girl there.

Luckily we broke off that year.
 
@ janey (janey09), 你想到,人家早就想到了。

SBF has wonderful Singapore retired lawyer. No way to deal with it.
 
Surfing SBF nothing wrong.

In fact, SBF is good in certain ways. Got first hand news.

A network not only discuss on sex but with other issues.

There are pitiful men going through divorce issue and they need valuable advices like women.
 
if u understand what i am saying, if the authorities is monitoring the website on any pimp posting, they setup a trap, then sooner or later there will not be anyone who dare to go there to look for prostitutes.

I agree if some poor men is looking for advice for divorce issues,we are not penalizing them, we are talking about the prostitutes
and pimp advertising their service there.
 
From SBF,everybody got first hand news -

1. who is the prostitute kenna AIDS.
2. who should avoid in Geylang
3. what men is trying to do while dating a girl. what kind of excuse he gives
4. why married men go for gay and ah-gua sex
5. what pedophiles do
6. sex abusing their gf/wife
7. why Vietnamese wives is preferred.
8. what's wrong with Singapore ladies
9. can't have babies
10. why refraing sex with gf/wife
11. why they are seeing different men, why they enjoy sex with men than their wife.
12. which doctor they visit
13. where and how they peep at girls (you'll know their tricks)
14. they found out that their children are not biological
15. husband is depressed being a cuckold
16. how to be more sexually energetic with wife/gf
17. how members console each other.
18. where is Yaw Shin Leong hiding
19. who is the lady to help them win in gambling and etc.
20. where they buy viagra, where to buy drugs, where to have ONS
21. what married men have in their mind.
22. why young punk loves old women
23. female teachers who had sex with (minor) male student.
24. who are the high Gov't officers charged with underage prostitution law suit.

There are thousands of reasons to keep SBF alive!

Singapore Gov't NOT dumb. They crack down lots of illegal 流莺 based on informant 线索(of course, one of the sources from SBF lah).

Please do not forget, Singapore is one of the few Asian countries legalised prostitution! Just like Geylang. Gov't already knew illegal prostitutes hanging around. Do you know why Govt not taking action?
 
Wow!!! i didn't know SBF so useful to the society. Go ahead and visit the website, no one is stopping u, this is a free country.

Ladies, these are excuses your husband will be giving when caught going to SBF. Thanks for the info Jolyon
 
janey, I like your reply.

Jolyon, you are indeed informative, if I put myself in the shoes of a straight man. 90% of the time, i will go to threads which offer women for pleasure.

I particularly like your item 22. But can't seem to find it anywhere in SBF.
 
I think you guys are engaging in a pointless debate that's going nowhere, let's agree to disagree. There are 2 camps of thoughts and we can never forcefully convince each other to any sides.

Instead of getting into a heated argument looking for a win and lose, let's just take a step back and do whatever each of you think is fruitful shall we? Afterall 1 man's meat may be another's poison. So let's just end the sarcasm and whatnot.
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Mr Lee

Are you a SNAG?

I don't feel any animosity here. It's quite fun this thread has become.

Yes, there are the left-wings and right-wings. This is a forum where we voice whatever we like, as long as there is nothing slanderous/libel, no harm to human being/animals.

I am a woman, I detest men who are married but still f*** around. I hate those PRCs non-licenced chickens. That is my true opinion.

There is a weak stand to bring the forums down. MDA has referred my complaints to Singapore Police Force Anti-Vice department, but I have not have any feedback from either parties.

So .... let's keep the party rolling.
 

licker,

At the rate local men are visiting these non-licenced prostitutes, maybe I have to look to item 22 to spice up my life.

小牛吃枯草. Maybe, I can still appeal to these sweet young chaps, since my HB is looking for sytp.
 

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